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The Boneitis Good Boy Guide to Your Zoosadism Experience

By Boneitis, 2 weeks ago

Something bad has happened. That's not new. There are at least a million people on the planet by my estimate and that means a lot of things are happening at all times and sometimes they are bad (read: not good). But this bad thing was personal enough that I felt it needed to be talked about by me: a not very good sleazeball furry porn artist (it's one step up, morally, from "hard drug dealer"). Here is why I reckon it is so personal:

1. It happened in the genre I work in: furry.
2. Our Furry Morality Overlords (you know one, c'mon! Name your favorite) weren't talking about it or, at best, whipping out a quick "I disavow" before moving on to the more important business of being more sarcastic than each other on Twitter.
3. Oh yeah it involves 2k+ people raping, torturing, and murdering animals.

Now I'm not the smartest guy but I'm fairly positive that's pretty bad, and personal. So over on Furry-Twitter an anonymous user was creating throwaway burner accounts and dropping an, apparently now deleted, megaupload link that was full of stuff that has been in my nightmares for the past few nights (no joke! Hahaha! Lack of sleep is very humorous). The person who uploaded it ("Akela") claims to be "one of the good zoophiles" which isn't a thing, but what they uploaded is every bad adjective in the dictionary. Within the .rar they posted are hundreds of chatlogs, videos, and pictures from the "Zoosadist" community on Telegram. I'd never heard that particular term before but it's fairly self explanatory: you see a Zoophile is someone who rapes animals, while a Zoosadist does that as well but ALSO tortures and/or kills them. We're talking Degrees of Evil here.

Like I said: not great.

There was a lot to take away from all this and while most of it was "holy shit I don't want to ever think about this ever again it is disgusting" there was also the fact that over 2,000 furries were implicated as participating in this Community from Hell. One in particular is getting a ton of flak, one "Kero the Wolf": a furry YouTuber who is apparently really popular. I don't really know, I don't understand fursuit videos because I am old and grumpy. But the logdump indicates, among other things, that he fucks roadkill and puppies. That's just one guy and man oh man do these guys get creative in their debauchery of animals, children, and corpses.

I can't believe I'm typing any of this.

As I said earlier the initial MegaUpload appears to be gone (though some friends of mine DID get the entirety of it into the hands of Encyclopedia Dramatica) the big thread on Twitter about it is here: https://twitter.com/VenusAsABun/sta.....43539450408960 Make your own judgements.

Since this has come out a couple of things have happened. One: a lot of people claiming it's fake which, you know what? I hope it is, because that would mean only fake animals were harmed and that would be great. Granted, it's a weird thing to fake; maybe Banksy is trying to do a prank in very poor taste? Who knows. If it is fake I will breathe a sigh of relief, apologize for getting Pranked Bro, and literally never think about this ever again.

Two: remember the moral busybodies I was talking about earlier? You know one maybe like... a guy who sees an edgy tweet from some dumb teenager and then decides to ruin his life forever over it? Or maybe a free speech warrior who can literally only talk about how it's very important that they post as many racial slurs as possible? Or maybe someone who puffs out his big legal/journalistic chest when a cartoon internet villain shows up and tells us all how good of a person they are for writing snarky things about this person no one liked in the first place? Maybe they drink or tweet a lot? I'm not implying anyone in particular but I bet you know one. Well all those guys, who will tweet and blog and podcast minutes after a man with seven followers says something they don't like, have been weirdly quiet on this one. I know it sounds crazy that these guys who talk about how internet brave they are for typing bullshit at dorks are, when real monsters rear their ugly heads by thousands, suddenly really quiet but it's true! I've seen some make flippant jokes about it "just being drama", others say "well this is just my hobby! I can't go anywhere near this!" to just outright silence. And goddamn did it ever get those chestnuts roasting over my open brain-fire and, after some real nut burning, I figured out a couple of reasons maybe these Super Good Furry Internet People aren't talking:

1. It's gross, and not "hipster gross", which is what you say about movies you like so that girls will think you're thoughtful and caring; but this is sick-to-the-stomach gross. If you need an example maybe read the parts about roadkill or puppies again. People stay away from gross things, it's why there aren't bestiality laws in a lot of states: no one wants to talk about super gross stuff. It's unpleasant.

2. It's bad for metrics. Outrage is great for metrics but when it's too real and too horrible people don't go near it and you know what that means: the constant cavalcade of e-dick sucking grinds to a halt and you get the Twitter equivalent of blue balls. Since these guys have fried their brains to the point where Twitter approval is a drug to them they can't risk it, the withdrawal is too severe. Remember: you're not a person anymore, you are a metric to these guys. Currency! Isn't that cool? You're not an individual to them, you're money. Also animals getting raped isn't worth talking about, there are people WHO THINK DIFFERENTLY ON THE INTERNET TO HUNT

3. They know people who are on the list. Hell they're probably friends with them and you know what? I wouldn't doubt someone I know is on that list (presumably under a name I don't know, I've got a pretty great track record of ditching skunkfuckers) because it's a BIG list. I've been doing this furry thing for years and I've met some pretty awful people: sexual-assault happy feminists, guys who want to shoot up conventions, even a real not-on-the-internet neo-nazi (he died though, funny enough). The pattern I see with these types every time has been unfailing: circle the wagons and defend your awful friend because he's your friend. Well let me tell you: if one of your furry buds turns out to be a zoophile, sadist, whatever, you don't have to be their friend. Loyalty is a virtue and a fault that way; and there are more friends out there, trust me. If you find out one of your friends is a zoophile and all your other friends are defending them for completely amoral reasons: ditch 'em. I'll be your friend instead.

Anyhow, that's my piece on it. I wanted to spread this around because I hate people that hurt animals (I use to raise kangaroos for a living, and I've owned a lot of pets and the thought of people hurting my weird dumb actual-animal friends pisses me off). There's a bunch of other reasons getting rid of these guys is good but I don't want to talk about "the effect on the fandom" or how they're bad for business, etc... because that's way down the priority line when it comes to a moral obligation this obvious.

Boneitis Counter-Argument and Criticism Contrarian Fuckwit Corner: If you're wanting to e-own me over this journal, or be a contrarian prat, or tell me how I didn't quite own the dogfuckers properly, or you didn't like my tone, or you want to argue the merits of animal-buggery you can go to hell and never come back. I rarely look at things without nuance but this is a pretty cut and dry issue and if you think you're going to totally Stephen Crowder Change My Mind on this then you're vastly overestimating your intelligence and vastly underestimating just how much brain damage I have from all the "Rage Against the Machine" I've listened to in the past 15 years. You're not dogfucker Jesus come down from his Movie-Reviewer-on-the-Internet-LogicLord Throne to enlighten us about shit, you're just demented and pissed that someone outed a chatroom where monsters like you could feel safe.

-Bone

Edit: As I said I would here are the reuploaded links:

If you'd like to do something about the Zoophile/Sadist issue you can send a tip to the FBI with the links I've provided.

FBI Tip Line: https://tips.fbi.gov/

Links containing the logs, pics, etc: https://kiwifarms.net/archive/Zoosadism/

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#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Ah the glory of furry drama

but ya - this is particularly stupid. I mean, good grief...

These people need help - mental help

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

First thing firsts. Part of me hopes beyond hope that this is fake.
Every other part of me is afraid that this is true and is really sick. Animal Abuse is no es bueno at all at any level. And that Zoosadist makes me sick to the core. This is why this community can't have nice things because even if this shit is fake this lie will go twice around the world ruin reputation of furies even more making it that much harder to just enjoy anthro cartoons or cartoon porn. As a community we need to keep a clean image clear up wether this thing is fake or not and if it is real kick all those people out of the community and notify appropriate authorities. Both for their sake and ours. If this is real they need help. Like psychiatric professional help.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

There's video and photographic evidence creared by people in this, my dude. They GLOAT about it.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

People have been tipping off the FBI, ASPCA, and RSPCA. I know they can't catch all of them so it's up to us to police ourselves as best we can. If you see something: say something!!!

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

I'm glad to hear that it is forwarded to the authorities. I'm also very sad that this turned out to be true. Sometimes experience in this community is like swimming on a boat. I sit at the top deck enjoying myself with everything the cruise has to offer like a normal passenger meanwhile there are bunch of degenerates in the lower deck with pickaxes mining away at the hull for kicks.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Maybe y'all need to take everything you read on the internet with a grain of salt instead of spreading rumors, how about that?

https://youtu.be/D_aLamBkR6I

I can't believe how many people are actually falling for this smear campaign that doesn't have any solid evidence against the guy, the mob mentality is strong with this one.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

He made a defense of "I was hacked", which indicates the content was from his accounts, but much of the evidence comes from a year ago, despite his hacked claims all coming out at just about the time of allegations.

That's all based on him, and pretty damming. I mean unless his account was hacked and he didn't care about bestiality torture being posted by it for nearly a year.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

The "Kero" part isn't really very concerning to me, what does concern me is that these groups exist and too many furries give them a pass. I don't care about one guy and his YouTube career, if he's innocent that's a good thing and I hope he finds a way to prove it. I've been publically smeared numerous times for shit that isn't true and it sucks.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

agreed. there are problems in every subculture but because ours is so unique it makes unsavory practices and characters stand out that much more.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Just not here on this site. Talking about the issue here? Sure. Outing people that you know do this kind of shit? That's likely to get you banninated.

... It's happened before and there are a lot of people that covet the power that being staff on the largest furry social-networking/art-site grants (translation: power corrupts and those that seek it out are usually already at least half-way there.) It's one of the reasons why I don't post my art here (and never will. At least not until they prove they've cleaned up their act.)

p.s. This comment is likely to get me suspended. It absolutely would if I name-dropped.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

It's why NO ONE would talk about this. Every big furry publisher, group, etc... they all have zoophiles in them or zoophile friends and if you went after even the IDEA that this shit was bad you could expect a lot of silence very suddenly. It's one of the things that has literally stifled my career.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Suffice to say I used to know some people who I later found out engaged in activities such as that. It's um... unsettling and nauseating, in the lightest of terms..

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

They've gotten cocky. We let them in but now they're exposed. Hit 'em hard and don't hold back!

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Is there a list of people involved?

And can i be your weird internet friend?

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

It's in the original download file which, currently, I don't know where it ended up. The person who posted it got spooked.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

And yes we can be weird internet pals.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Consider this:

1-'Anonymous' hates furries more than anyone or anything else, because they're unimaginative edgelords like that.
2-'Anonymous' is infamous for criminally antisocial 'pranks', because they're unimaginative edgelords like that.
3-The furry community has been targeted by unknown parties in the past with the intent to injure or kill (Midwest Furfest poison gas attack).
4-This whole thing smacks of "over 9000 penises."

Seriously, does any of this seem remotely plausible to you? It's a blatant fabrication.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Those videos of dudes fucking animals are VERY convincing fabrications then. Hats off to Anonymous as they do furry ops jobs from their jail cells or FBI jobs (depending on which ones you talk to).

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Hold on bro, this feo2 guy is clearly a time traveler from 2006; We must interrogate him and learn his secrets.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Oh shit you're right.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Anon's other targets like say the church of scientology are hit with exposing info and truth. They know well such lies would be counterproductive. Their methodology of lying to meme prank is more about convincibg people to be IRL dumbshits through their paranoia/ignorance (see: freebleeding), not convince most of the fandom that a few thousand otherwise random furries are horrid, complete with faking all the videos.

By this point plenty of furs are anons, and plenty of anons are furs. It's not 2002 anymore. The internet doesn't hate you as one loathsome mass.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

1-'Anonymous' hates furries more than anyone or anything else, because they're unimaginative edgelords like that.

Umm... yeah... sure...

The local 'chapter' of Anonymous was headed by a furry for years, As in someone named in lawsuits, death threats, and BS restraining orders from the Church of Scientology in Florida.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

that's some seriously disturbing shit right.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

First I just wanna say how well written and compelling this journal was. I agree completely with what’s been said here it is a sad and disgusting situation, and no one should ever defend the people involved. I can’t say with 100% certainty if it is or isn’t true but it’s very disheartening if it is.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

I was worried I sounded too raw, glad it got the point across. It seems very likely it's all true, otherwise I wouldn't have written anything, but I would love it if it weren't.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Curious as to where the number of 2,000+ came from? Do we have a source for that number?

Just trying to verify some things.

Even 20 would be bad enough and is far too many , 2000 just is way too many for me to believe without some verification.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this as it's something that certainly needs to be talked about, which is why having correct numbers is important. Over-blowing a number could give people who think this is a scam a leg to stand on.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

It's in the original MegaUpload file but the poster got spooked and deleted it. People at ED have the original dump and should be putting it back up.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Are they all furries or was this an organization that catered to zoophiliac sadists outside the furry fandom as well?

If they were a larger group not furry based then the user base, despite being uncomfortably large may have been targeted to both the fandom and non-fandom which given there are 7 billion people on this planet, 2000 of them being this disgusting makes more statistical sense (.000000285714%)

Our fandom is still too small for me to believe that a group size the amount of 1/4 our largest convention and be involved with heinous acts would comprise of 100% furries. Just doesn't fit the statistical mustard.

Clearly the furries, no matter how many were there (and 1 is far too many particularly higher profile fandom advocate ones), should be held to account.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

judging by avatars, it looked to be a mixed group.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

I actually came here to ask the exact same question that you covered.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

The group had 2k+ people in it and no I did not ask each and every one of them if they personally identified as "furry" or not.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Theres a lot of popular fursuiters in that list too

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Your avatar fits your detectivesque demeanor

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

What needs to be said. The silence of self appointed community leaders is deafening. I urge all who read this to spread this far and wide, and remember the next time self appointed guardians of the fandom get into a tizzy because of an internet joke.

Ask them where they was when two thousand monsters were exposed for the world to see. And ask them why they did nothing.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

"How long?
Not long
'cause what you reap
Is what you sow!"

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

have seen bits of that particular thing surfacing, and it is really in a mixed bag of "where to believe this particular person being targetted over on twottyburb, vs where he is flat out lying in his own defense there too." like, his self-defendings make him look worse than alongside the many false screens shared, but then there are so many images that did make it look like it truly was the one dude too.
(now i know only one name regarding this, and since i do not know them in anyway beyond this event--i can't properly pass judgement on their character vs all of this stuff today. which makes me feel easier to lean on the "he dun it" side. is why i'm still looking into all that stuff on my side too. Though given that entire zoosadism and the like should fucking be kicked off a cliff for real. if i ever saw someone torturing animals for their pleasure, i'd knock their fucking heads off for that shit.)

i am also gawking at the amount of "court of popular opinion therefore is true" types also swarming over on those posts too though. x-x
like; it literally took maybe three folks posting to suddenly have thousands of folks swarming the guy?

edit:
obviously i am not the best at properly proaching all this stuff too. apologies for my fumbling topic/words here.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

It's why I had to take a few days to post this, it was all too much.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

A friend of mine knows one of these 'people'. He avoids them like the plague since he found out what they were into, I suspect he's afraid he'll kill them if he comes into contact with them. He has tried in the past to warn some others about this 'person' but no one believed him.

So yes, unfortunately these sicko's do exist, though in what kinds of numbers I have no idea. Don't know if the recent stuff being released is fake or not, haven't looked at it, have no desire to look at it. But yes, there are a lot of sick people in this fandom, sadly there always have been. They'll crucify people for 'bad think' but for actual crimes with actual victims? Nope. The number of furs who have gone to prison is amazingly high.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Has he gone to the police with the allegations? Otherwise, just warning people online is quite ineffective.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

The FBI, ASPCA, and RSPCA have been notified. I posted this because self policing our own community is an effective countermeasure that anyone can do.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

This was more in regards to the the person stating they had a friend who knew someone into this kind of thing, but didn't specify if it was related to this incident.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Oh whoops! It is tricky to report this stuff because, as I mentioned in the journal, it's not necessarily illegal! It's also not easy to call the cops on suspicion of Dangerous-Kinkery.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Who are 'furry overloards/leaders'?
This is new to me, all around.

Of course, I don't follow furry-twitter, and only know a few people on TG. So maybe someone forgot to tell me how to vote. Or that I needed to care about these self-appointed popu-furs who are 'silent'.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Stay off of furry Twitter.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

But.. but.. it's FURRY! (/sarcasm) I think you're like, one of the only 'fur' things I follow on twitter, come to think of it.

And that's just because I'm an art snob. And slob.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Well thank you for braving furry Twitter on my behalf!

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

This is some serious shit. I think this will be fuel for more anti-furry sentiment. What’s more is that despite being a fan of “Furry” media I don’t feel like I want to be a furry anymore. For the time being I will quit the fandom and be more of an otaku either until this clears up or forwver.

This is a sad turn of events. ):

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Forever*

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

I don't think the genre is going anywhere, if we can excise these bad eggs now then things will be even better.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Excellent write up. It’s a true shame (and pretty gut-wrenching to be frank, given the possible implications) that such a large portion of the fandom doesn’t want to call out these people for what they are: deplorable, rapist, criminals who should be brought up on multiple charges for animal abuse.

To spare my own sanity regarding those who don’t think that those engaging in these acts should be summarily rejected by the fandom, I’d be willing to and hopeful in believing that the multitude of quadrupedal characters may cause trepidation among their owners for fear of being lumped in. What folks need to take care in remembering, however, is that fantasy is fantasy, and reality is reality. People who are unwilling or unable to keep the two separate need to be handled accordingly, either through psychological assistance in the latter case or punishment by law in the former. There should be absolutely zero tolerance for this kind of thing in the fandom, and I’m glad to see you speaking out.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

When I realized the subject of this journal, I had to force myself to keep reading. I forced myself because I cannot bring myself to look at the evidence.

Mr. B., thank you for posting this journal. The harming of animals in the name of public hygiene bothers me enough [ie. China's war on "The Four Pests" during The Great Leap Forward included a songbird as one of the Four Pests]. Out here in the Pacific Northwest, wolves are finally making a comeback. But livestock ranchers are pissed off about it. Now the government has back-peddled and allowed the killing of "nuisance wolves", while the protections are still nominally in place.

I feel a few micrograms more righteous anger at the harming of animals than the harming of people. Why? Because I'm another misanthropic furry?

Well, yes; but that's beside the point. Persons or people gratiutously harmed, have a far better chance of obtaining justice than animals. If the harm goes as far as death for said persons or people, other people can bring about this justice. Animals don't have that option, unless the abusers are reincarnated into a situation where they become the victims. But as there is no evidence of this, I can only pray that Cosmic Justice will prevail.

On the subject of free speech, I think most people have the conception that it means one can express an opinion and should not suffer unpleasant consequences from any quarter. No, it simply means one should not be legally prosecuted for having a dissenting opinion regarding the status quo.

One of the Founding Fathers put forth the point that, as loathesome as a viewpoint might be, it should be allowed to air, because this way, you know where danger lies.

These vicious, abusing assholes who post videos or blogs of this fucktard shit are reporting themselves to the authorities, and possibly to vigilantes.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

I'm a game hunter (I eat everything I catch) so the outright misunderstanding of animals and nature that comes from these people angers me to my core.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

In primitive cultures where one must hunt to feed oneself; I am particularly struck by those particular cultures which practice apologizing to the slaughtered creature, and/or thanking it for it's sacrifice for the sake providing nourishment.

This is corny, romantic bullshit on my part: however,biologists who study mammals and avians are uncovering more evidence that there is a being inside the brain of a "dumb animal".

#link Posted: 12 days ago

I'm not particularly religious but I say a prayer for every animal I hunt, it just feels proper.

#link Posted: 11 days ago

Awesome.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

I normally don't curse, but holy s*** that is f*** up to the max! Thank you for disclosing this!

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Where's the fave button? I wanna fave this. lol xD

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

I feel like that circling the wagons comes from a misunderstanding or corruption of the same spirit behind the phrase, "My country, right or wrong." It's not that you should defend your friends no matter what wicked acts they commit. It's that you shouldn't give up on them at the drop of a hat, or because of an allegation. Instead, you take them aside and make it clear that this kind of behavior is unacceptable. You give them the benefit of the doubt, but nothing more. If they are innocent, you will have stood by a friend when they needed you most. If they repent, then you may have helped to push them toward it, to seek help instead of continuing such depraved behavior.

And if they insist you're not really their friend if you're not okay with them doing this? You agree. And you burn the bridge. When they're ready to accept that their behavior is wrong and they need help, and then seek out that help, then you can start rebuilding the bridge. Not before.

Whatever the truth of this matter, I place all these people in the hands of God. I know of no place that is more terrible nor more secure. And he will be sure to impress upon them the wickedness of their actions. God loves them. But he hates sin. And this is some of the blackest out there. Only worse thing I can think of is snuff porn starring children. And the only difference between them is how hot the fires of hell will burn them that commit it.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Always give your friends a chance to better themselves but if they're convinced that "being a dogfucker is who I am! It's my orientation!" then it's going to be a rocky road!

Good to have the Lord's wrath on our side in this one as well.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Next time someone whines about God wiping out whole towns and cultures, I'm gonna just point them to this. The hard question no one seems to ask is, "What could be so horrible that genocide would be justified?"

I think this gives us an idea of why God would order an entire town to be slaughtered. I don't know what they were doing with their gold, but having to melt all of it down and recast it suggests things I'd rather not think about. Not to mention the animals that were killed too.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go bleach my brain with good things so I can forget that Metokur video I just watched.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

This is the kind of journal I wish I could fav. The part that bothers me most, despite tons of furry being an espionage game anymore of moles being slipped into this group or that... This was only made known because some fucker in that group saw they all went to far for him. A proud dog-rapist was like "aw goddamn this shit is intolerable".

That baffles my mind and so sours my sensibilities.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Right?? It's the craziest fucking story.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

This shit is disgusting and the evidence is a hell of a lot stronger than any of the usual furry callout shit. Yet still so many are hesitant to accept that there are popufurs that fuck dogs. Cause that's never fucking happened before.

I really wish there would be actual legitimate some info to pop up and say some of this isn't legit, but there's just too much here.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

The sheer volume of it is part of why it's so convincing.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Tbh the more interesting thing about this drama is how all the self-appointed furry Gestapo are keeping quiet about this. Even if it was a hoax you'd expect them to at least disavow them. Imagine writing something so controversial like "I disavow animal fucking and necrophilia", rofl.

For the rest of us funny animals I'm just gonna sit back and watch the hilarious attempts of damage control. Yeah part of me wishes it's fake, but then again - I agree with you - it makes perfect sense. Speaking as a person that doesn't fuck dead animals though I'll just focus on writing the literature that means something to me.

Love ya Bone!

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Some of them ARE finally speaking up. Just me and Venus had to have a couple of VERY stressful days first.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

I don't know who these "Furry Morality Overlords" are (maybe I just don't happen to be watching any douchebags?) but it hardly matters. You're the artist I care about the most, and you're the only one I've seen talking about it. This type of shit needs to be aggressively exposed and disavowed. We cannot fall into the trap that the Catholic Church has, for example, where crimes are covered up or ignored in favor of "protecting the community's reputation." Fuck the community's reputation. If we don't stand against horrific atrocities like this, then we get the reputation that we deserve. Thank you for bringing all of this to our attention.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

They're mostly active on Twitter (it's a nightmare) but yeah: if we're not willing to out this stuff then I think I'll just check out of this life and try again!

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

>tfw your favorite hobby has been overrun by horrible people

https://i.imgur.com/zrtVkCu.jpg

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Okay, you win. XD That is both sick and hilarious, and I love it.

#link Posted: 5 days ago

I rarely actually "laugh out loud" when I'm perusing the internet by myself, but you got me to cackle with that one. Well done, sir!

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

Not only that, but given how seriousness this particular situation is, police involvement needs to be a thing now.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

As much as this community does NOT need anymore bad press, the seriousness and extremism of the situation seriously warrants police intervention.

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

the moment I read this journal, my mind went into cognitive dissonance regarding these "members of this community". I had this subconscious assumption that anybody calling themselves a "furry", or a member of the fandom, would have greater than average respect for other species.

People fucking while wearing fursuits might create bad press; it's fodder for people who seek every opportunity to be outraged. Fursuit sex is not my kink, but others doing it does not bother me in the least. They are consenting individuals.

I would have expected that these sick and violent animal abusere to be redneck/fascist control freaks who disdain nature in general except as a resource to selfishly exploit with no regard to maintaining it.

#link Posted: 12 days ago

As a redneck raised by a family of rednecks, I resent that last bit! But I understand exactly what you mean. It's just too much.

#link Posted: 11 days ago

First, I apologize in case I was offensive with the redneck remark, but thanks for being a good sport. I will watch what I say in the future.

I just get wound up when people cause harm and boast about it.

A few years back I went to youtube to look for videos about crows and ravens, which I find very interesting. I saw one video titled "Crow Smackdown". The thumbnail showed a guy with a gun and about 20 dead crows at his feet.

I chose to watch the video showing an albino raven in a British Columbia park instead.

#link Posted: 10 days ago

I took it as a joke, but rednecks, like any other group, has some bad apples and some good ones lol. No harm done.

But yeah animal abuse is a sore spot for a lot of folks, myself included. The guy who did the "Crow Smackdown" video may be in for a rude surprise. Crows are highly intelligent, have good memories, and are capable of planning revenge >_>

#link Posted: 2 weeks ago

I've been listening a lot to a true crime podcast, LPOTL. It's interesting to know how far a human psyche can go. 50s to 80s were a golden age of serial killers, there were so many of them, but what happened later? The killers didn't just disappear. New ones are being raised every day. I guess they just moved on to the internet and started connecting with each other. That's how you get groups with 2k+ members. Power in numbers. Same as MAGA and Kekistan ~~people~~ neofascists.

There's a spirited quote from William Gibson's very first story that got published (Burning Chrome) back in the 1980s, it very much describes what's wrong with today's world: "The customers are torn between needing someone and wanting to be alone at the same time, which has probably always been the name of that particular game, even before we had the neuroelectronics to enable them to have it both ways.". Some men just want to be both alone and in a good company, at the same time. Internet allows just that.

Totally agree with what you said - if we as members of this fandom don't step up and denounce these monsters, then we do not deserve all the good things we get from it.

#link Posted: 12 days ago

Weird, the Twitter seems to be deleted..

#link Posted: 12 days ago

Yep, they were driven off by death threats. Furries threatened to kill someone for exposing a zoophile ring.

#link Posted: 11 days ago

Are you guys going to do a recap/explanation of this whole mess on a DW newscast, Bonezy?

#link Posted: 12 days ago

Digging into it myself. Makes me sick to see it. I've been working to archive stuff, link aliasrs, and trace stuff so I haven't been using what little free time I have crowing on twitter. Ha. God I hope folks reading this journal just turn these people in. There were so many of them, they can't have gone completely unnoiced from everyone. People must know and they haven't reported it to authorities and have been enabling the cover up for who knows how long. A group that latge doesn't form over night. Makes me so fucking mad. I don't want a single one of these bastards to escape the consequences for their actions, justice is needed for these animals.

#link Posted: 12 days ago

Keep that fire alive, they don't get away with it.

#link Posted: 12 days ago

This is like the most perfectly dark, vile thing any troll could imagine in their wet dreams, which is why I hesitate to believe it's true. It's why I look at it as a possible forgery. I'm reminded of the 4chan /b/ raids of the 2000s.

At the absolute best case, though, some troll/group of trolls managed to get furries to pass around and view faked pictures and videos of necrophilia/animal abuse that are felonies to view in certain states, felonies to distribute in others, felonies to produce in most states and people are all like "hurr durr I looked and here's the link".

Depending on your state's laws re: bestiality, linking to this in your journal may be a crime and if so it is likely felonious.

That's the 'best case scenario' in this. It's so fucking disgusting that instead of dropping the evidence to the police people are tossing it around slinging shit all over the fandom. I'll bet they're the same ones to wonder why everything stinks after they're done ripping nuggets out of the septic tank and playing catch with them.

Fuck this noise so fucking much. It's a police issue, humane society issue, ASPCA issue, and FBI issue. It isn't a 'bunch of random assholes on Twitter' issue.

#link Posted: 10 hours ago

After YouTuber PK raged at me for pointing out the obvious fact that they were real telegram messages and he was too stupid to check, I've been getting children in my replies defending zoophiles because they love some YouTuber. Actual children. We have to start teaching furs there's lines you don't cross when it comes to behavior.

Seeing this whole thing has been nightmarish. My wife and I have lost sleep after finding out people like this exist. I'm still trying to balance not making the stress worse for everyone while letting furs know we can't ignore it either.