[–] ▶ Mujaki no Rakuen end and loli restrictions ロリコン 09/20/17 (Wed) 00:03:51 ef352e (5) No. 77115 >>77192 >>77228 >>77390 [Watch Thread] [Show All Posts]
So the last chapter of Mujaki no Rakuen is out and it includes some commentaries from Uran that he released during the Comiket, pics related.
Tl; Dr: Mujaki no Rakuen ended because of restrictions against loli manga and Olympics.
So, hat you guys think This is some huge flag!
▶ ロリコン 09/20/17 (Wed) 00:05:12 ef352e (5) No. 77116
>So, what you guys think This is some huge flag!
fix'ed
▶ ロリコン 09/20/17 (Wed) 08:00:22 30fc9f (2) No. 77148 >>77172 >>77390 >>80658
For reference, the same artist made this kind of commentary in the midst of the Tokyo Bill being thrown around a few years back. I wonder to what extent he's actually being cornered by a chilling effect from policy enforcers, or if it's merely a matter of raising awareness.
▶ ロリコン 09/20/17 (Wed) 10:34:51 ef352e (5) No. 77172
>>77148
I think its both, in 2013 he was alredy working on Mujaki no Rakuen, so he would know what was waiting for him. Also, it must be really hard to work all those years with just the income of the volumes and nothing more.
▶ ロリコン 09/20/17 (Wed) 11:58:45 3430be (1) No. 77182 >>77188 >>77217 >>77247
I don't understand, is there any news about loli restrictions and Olympics?
▶ ロリコン 09/20/17 (Wed) 13:10:21 30fc9f (2) No. 77188
>>77182
No, not yet. He even says he ended the manga pre-emptively on his own terms specifically to avoid having to make compromises later. It remains to be seen what, if any, effect the Olympics will have on policy or artists on the whole. I at least hope Tokyo politicians and bureaucratic busybodies aren't so short-sighted as to damage the long-established manga industry just to cover Japan's 'dirty laundry' for a couple months, but then again reactionary idiocy is the stock and trade of politics.
▶ ロリコン 09/20/17 (Wed) 14:42:11 2a4bd7 (1) No. 77192 >>77204 >>77222 >>77232
>>77115 (OP)
what the hell? that good comic is hardly fappable compared to others. what kind of stupid feminazi petitioned it to be taken out?
FUCK YOU GREECE. FUCK YOU OLYMPIAN FIRE WORSHIPPERS AND YOUR STUPID SPORTS
▶ ロリコン 09/20/17 (Wed) 22:56:33 b72ab7 (1) No. 77204
>>77192
The worst part is that the olympics fucking suck so its not even worth it not that anything would be worth such harsh censorship on media and fictional media to make it even worse
▶ ロリコン 09/21/17 (Thu) 02:15:07 ef352e (5) No. 77217 >>77222 >>77537
>>77182
There aren't any new restrictions, but from what Uran says, his magazine was boycotting loli comics, so he couldn't please his fans and make some money from merchandising. Also, even if there was anime offers, they weren't greenligt in the end.
So, what he mean is, even if there is not new restrictions, the magazines are censoring and boycotting loli artist to please the goverment.
▶ ロリコン 09/21/17 (Thu) 02:38:47 ef352e (5) No. 77222
>>77192
No one petitioned, but the author ended it himself because he knew he would eventually be censored or axed if he continued it during the olympics. But he mentions that he maybe will continue the series if the things get better after the Olympics, probably in another magazine.
I think he knows better than anyone how shitty things are know, and tats why he is so mad. Also, >>77217
▶ ロリコン 09/21/17 (Thu) 04:13:15 cb92d3 (2) No. 77228 >>77232
>>77115 (OP)
I think he'll be fine. Lolis that he likes to draw (~12yo) most (men) find sexy anyways, both 2D and 3D. I'm more worried about younger lolis disappearing.
Part of me hopes lolicon will get banned completely, because western ("pseudo")lolicons don't deserve it anyways.
▶ ロリコン 09/21/17 (Thu) 04:45:58 7b8b64 (1) No. 77232
>>77192
>Make a cool sport to encourage people to get JACKED
>Competition everywhere
>Have a blast overall
>year 2000+ rolls around
>People are getting fatter and fatter, at least some still have Olympics
>Go check out Japanese Olympics
>They're destroying their own culture
>Sweaty traitors of the west that care more about japan than their own countries are blaming us for this
>Literally the same "DESTROY 2000 YEARS OF CULTURE BECAUSE IT UPSETS" shit, just like they used on North America to demolish statues of their own kin
>Realize I've been dead for a while, stop greentexting in a Imageboard
>>77228
Pic related
▶ ロリコン 09/21/17 (Thu) 11:49:05 7dc9fa (1) No. 77247 >>77276 >>77390 >>77924
>>77182
It's not officially banned but it's 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐥𝐲 𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑔𝑒𝑑 (eg soft-banned) to get rid of all public hentai in general, and specifically all loli content, not just hentai loli (like Girls und Panzers lolis that some BBC reporter was bitching about, calling it disgusting pedo and shit). All of this is done to not trigger olympics normies by creepy cartoon porn and stuff like that.
Though there is a high chance it would be officially banned by the time of olympics
Also they would also probably cancel or at least move/delay summer comiket since it would be at the same place and time as 2020 olympics.
▶ ロリコン 09/22/17 (Fri) 00:31:26 190eac (1) No. 77276 >>77280 >>77312
>>77247
BBC is literally British version of Fox News. Only stupid people believe in their crap
▶ ロリコン 09/22/17 (Fri) 00:44:54 381327 (1) No. 77280
>>77276
Who cares? If "a media" is talking negatively about it then its probably a demonspawn form hell, [del] [del] [del]
▶ ロリコン 09/22/17 (Fri) 05:53:47 eb51be (1) No. 77305
I hope by the time the Olympics ends all of this silliness stops. Japan has been adamant about defending the free speech of it's artists as recently as 2016. I hope all of this is just purely PR.
▶ ロリコン 09/22/17 (Fri) 09:22:25 fd5ef3 (1) No. 77312 >>77331
>>77276
So? BBC is official government media that works on taxpayers money. BBC's opinion is official government opinion
▶ ロリコン 09/22/17 (Fri) 14:02:21 52fca3 (1) No. 77331
>>77312
BBC isn't the government's official opinion any more than NPR is the US government's official position.
▶ ロリコン 09/23/17 (Sat) 12:23:41 f49a8e (1) No. 77390 >>77405 >>77425 >>77426
>>77115 (OP)
>>77148
>>77247
so, what are the odds loli is kill? (more then 50%?) as I recall incest manga, games and anime had a "soft ban" a few years ago that also killed a few books and changed they way incest is depicted in japan. (it has to be shown in a in a negative light, any so called "positive depictions" are treated as contraband, pics related) will loli end up the same way? (or worse?)
▶ ロリコン 09/23/17 (Sat) 16:19:18 cb92d3 (2) No. 77405 >>77409
>>77390
Western plebs will probably not see the difference even with restrictions imposed. They love loli babas,18yo aged up "lolis" drawn by western artists, oppai midgets and other similar trash anyways.
▶ ロリコン 09/23/17 (Sat) 18:14:22 905a0a (1) No. 77409
>>77405
I'm pretty sure loli babas will also be banned. Everything that looks like a loli would be banned to make sure olympic guests are not creeped out by it
▶ ロリコン 09/24/17 (Sun) 00:21:53 859934 (1) No. 77425 >>77489 >>77509
>>77390
Probably if we have a war there, we wont have Olympics.
>yfw Kim Jong Un is trying to wage war to prevent loli from being baned
▶ ロリコン 09/24/17 (Sun) 00:21:57 4d4f11 (1) No. 77426 >>77854 >>82987
>>77390
It's just a soft ban that prevents minors (under 18) from buying it, it's just like porn in the west
And that's pretty much the worst case scenario for lolis regarding olympics, japs already know autistic anglos see them as degenerate because of everything
Also that's just the old tokyo governor who made those stupid laws, the new governor is anime friendly
▶ ロリコン 09/24/17 (Sun) 18:18:01 906fa3 (1) No. 77489
>>77425
If there ever was a reason to wage war, this is it.
▶ ロリコン 09/25/17 (Mon) 07:10:35 d5d492 (1) No. 77509
>>77425
wtf I love North Korea now
▶ ロリコン 09/25/17 (Mon) 17:16:16 634367 (1) No. 77537 >>77539 >>77597
>>77217
>tsugumomo got anime
>eromanga sensei got anime
>tenshi no 3p got anime
>this manga somehow has troubles with it
I think this guy just needs better business partners
▶ ロリコン 09/25/17 (Mon) 19:13:38 70e04c (1) No. 77539
>>77537
It did get an OVA, though, for what it's worth. Not the marketing potential of a TV series, but it's something.
▶ ロリコン 09/26/17 (Tue) 05:39:42 b9c7f1 (1) No. 77574
*muffled aneurysm sounds in the distance*
▶ ロリコン 09/26/17 (Tue) 12:44:04 a1fc48 (1) No. 77597
>>77537
Only Tenshi no 3p is actually something, the other 2 dont have that much lewd lolis.
▶ ロリコン 10/02/17 (Mon) 14:41:48 3bd44b (1) No. 77854
>>77426
>just a soft ban that prevents minors (under 18) from buying i
Did you read pic three? They also recalled it.
▶ ロリコン 10/04/17 (Wed) 03:37:09 679eb0 (1) No. 77924 >>77947 >>77951 >>78293
>>77247
Funny thing is that same feminist reported on the migrant rape attacks during Cologne of the 2015-16 New Years and tried to down play the attacks.
Cute looking characters that could classify as lolis in some regards = bad.
IRL rape as long as its done by people we want to protect = good.
▶ ロリコン 10/04/17 (Wed) 12:39:44 2a250f (1) No. 77947 >>78049
>>77924
that looks more about racism than feminism. but of course they prefer to be called feminism because it is the least worst viewed. i bet in truth, they bash japan about lolis because they think it is their white people's responsibilities to 'educate' japs about being 'proper human'.
▶ ロリコン 10/04/17 (Wed) 13:56:45 f3ddf9 (1) No. 77951 >>78049 >>78050
>>77924
That bitch was arrested during while she was in Japan for getting in a fight with some yakuzas. She is probably a target now.
▶ ロリコン 10/07/17 (Sat) 00:39:29 4f631a (1) No. 78049 >>78295
>>77947
>>77951
I feel as if some of them in fact do feel that way. That the feminist have the mindset of a 19th century imperialist where they feel it is their white wymn's burden to educate the Japanese on their culture and civilize them.
Thing is I never even thought of Girls Und Panzers as overly loli, just moe as their are actual loli animes like Ero-manga Sensei or Kodomo no Jikan they could have gone after.
She was not alone in this as in Sweden just having loli stuff counts as having CP as one Swede was arrested for having loli. However in some Western nations like Canada irl child brides are allowed if the groom married the loli in his home nation like Saudi Arabia.
▶ ロリコン 10/07/17 (Sat) 01:02:51 a7d8c0 (1) No. 78050
>>77951
good. i hope they catch her and then dump her stupid corpse into Tokyo Bay like they always do to other human trashes
▶ ロリコン 10/13/17 (Fri) 02:42:17 00b5bd (1) No. 78293
>>77924
There's a biblical verse that talks about good being cast out as evil while villains are considered heroes… I'm just not sure what the verse was….
▶ ロリコン 10/13/17 (Fri) 03:14:35 d73a96 (1) No. 78295 >>78297 >>80106
>>78049
>having loli stuff counts as having CP as one Swede was arrested for having loli
>On 15 June 2012, the Supreme Court found him not guilty. They decided that the images were not realistic and could not be mistaken for real children, and that they therefore could not be counted as exceptions to the constitutional law of freedom of speech. One picture was still considered realistic enough to be defined as child pornography according to Swedish law. However, his possession of it was considered defensible through his occupation as a professional expert of Japanese culture, particularly manga.
▶ ロリコン 10/13/17 (Fri) 04:02:59 aff512 (1) No. 78297 >>78349
>>78295
>professional expert of Japanese culture
Shit, where do I sign up to possess loli professionally?
▶ ロリコン 10/14/17 (Sat) 04:10:37 d39199 (1) No. 78349 >>79864
>>78297
He worked as a manga translator for a Swedish publisher, iirc.
▶ ロリコン 11/11/17 (Sat) 22:14:43 5c858f (1) No. 79864
>>78349
Then he got fired because the publisher got cold feet about the pedo frenzy.
▶ ロリコン 11/15/17 (Wed) 16:29:29 5025eb (1) No. 80106 >>80113
>>78295
>One picture was still considered realistic enough to be defined as child pornography
What artist is this good?
▶ ロリコン 11/15/17 (Wed) 22:55:11 58b5a4 (1) No. 80113
>>80106
There is a lot of artists that actually use cp as reference, Inuboshi and ponsuke are good exemples.
▶ Rurouni Kenshin Author Arrested for possession of Child Pornography ロリコン 11/22/17 (Wed) 00:25:32 594f39 (4) No. 80604 >>80606 >>80611 >>80613
Well, Im too lazy to create another thread for this so I will use this thread, machine translation of the news:
Rurouni swordsmans sent documents … documentary girls suspected of possession
The Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department said on Wednesday that she had a child (39) (Tokyo Nishi-Tokyo City) a popular manga "Rurouni Kenshin" author Shin moi (Watsuki) Nobuhiro (real name, Nobuhiro Nishiwaki) I sent a document under suspicion of breach of child prostitution / child pornography ban (simple possession).
According to investigators, Nishiwaki suspected possession of multiple DVDs in October, offices in Tokyo with videos showing naked girls in the early 10's. "I liked girls from elementary school high school grade to second grade junior high school students."
In the investigation of another child pornography incident, suspected that Nishiwaki had purchased a girl's DVD in the early 10's. The agency boys training division searched his home and found several DVDs.
The simple possession of child pornography is subject to punishment from July 2015. Child pornography for children under 18 years of age for sexual purposes shall be imprisoned for not more than 1 year or a fine of not more than 1 million yen.
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20171121-00050067-yom-soci
▶ ロリコン 11/22/17 (Wed) 01:48:01 df608e (1) No. 80606 >>80607
>>80604
WAIT THE FUCKING SECOND. Are you saying, are that article implying that THE Nobuhiro Watsuki, the guy who drew Rurouni Kenshin were busted for CP? What will happen to "Rurouni Kenshin: Hokkaido Arc" now???
▶ ロリコン 11/22/17 (Wed) 01:59:14 594f39 (4) No. 80607 >>80608 >>80609
>>80606
Yes, its him.
Maybe he can be released with a fine of a small loan of 1 million yen and continue with the manga.
▶ ロリコン 11/22/17 (Wed) 02:39:45 77e182 (1) No. 80608 >>80609 >>80611
>>80607
Only 1 million yen to forgive CP? Oh japan you so crazy…
▶ ロリコン 11/22/17 (Wed) 03:07:05 61e5aa (2) No. 80609 >>80611
>>80608
The DVD itself may contain materials produced in 70'-90'. During that time, powerful lefties was in charge of Japan, feminazism have yet to set their dirty high heel on the Far East, a period of rapid industrialization and inflating property bubble where hardworking old men looking for young hookers to relieve stress, and most importantly, a period where no Asian give a fuck about stupid shirogaijin's age-of-consent laws. Nobuhiro Watsuki (or any CP offenders) might receive leniency in this case largely because Watsuki never committed real-life underage rape and Japanese still haven't get used to the (relatively) new age-of-consent law. Unlike shirogaijin, the Yamato Clan fully understand that pedophilia is a mental sexual preference that present since birth and long prison time/fine/death is not a cure for it.
>>80607
Technically that's possible. But most of the time, the publisher might end problematic mangaka's contract to save their own face. It is very unlikely for him to continue drawing the Hokkaido Arc without facing any problems.
I apologize for my bad english.
▶ ロリコン 11/22/17 (Wed) 03:50:10 594f39 (4) No. 80611
>>80608
Yes, it is on the news: >>80604
"Child pornography for children under 18 years of age for sexual purposes shall be imprisoned for not more than 1 year OR a fine of not more than 1 million yen."
>>80609
>During that time, powerful lefties was in charge of Japan,
>lefties
What? How?
I always thought that the left only ruled Japan from 1994 to 1996 and from 2009 to 2012. All the other times were right wing conservatives.
>But most of the time, the publisher might end problematic mangaka's contract to save their own face.
That is definitely true, it can happen.
▶ ロリコン 11/22/17 (Wed) 04:35:52 24a376 (2) No. 80613 >>80615 >>80618
>>80604
Softcore nude stuff only i guess? He did nothing wrong. If you have a choice to buy a lewd DVD with a 30y.o dried up whore a DVD with attractive teenage girls it's only natural to choose the latter.
▶ ロリコン 11/22/17 (Wed) 04:43:24 594f39 (4) No. 80615 >>80618
>>80613
No, I think its DVD of actual sex, from the time when it was not banned and was sold in stores.(i.e. before 1999)
▶ ロリコン 11/22/17 (Wed) 05:28:45 61e5aa (2) No. 80618 >>80620
>>80615
Nope, underage sex DVD/video cassette was never legal in Japan. The lowest-tier underage materials you can find in 7-11 or Lawson stores are nude models and voyeur compilation CDs. But most materials were in magazine form. CDs usually accompany special editions of those magazines, so in conclusion, nude CDs are pretty rare even back then. Have you ever heard of Kansai Enkou case? That shit caused a huge uproar back then. A few decades ago, someone openly sold underage (9yo - 16yo) prostitution CDs, thinking that it is legal like all other CDs. Turns out it was not. Whole Kyoto Region's police force were mobilized to hunt down its producers.
>>80613
This guy might be correct. Nobuhiro-sensei likely busted with 90's underage nude model DVDs. Unless he is stupid enough to own darknet DVDs or a Kansai Enkou CD, he'll might facing a harsher punishment.
▶ ロリコン 11/22/17 (Wed) 06:10:28 24a376 (2) No. 80620
>>80618
Poor guy in any case. Reading threads on halfchan's /a/ about this made me pretty angry.
▶ VHsephi 11/22/17 (Wed) 17:50:48 c84d05 (1) No. 80644
well, the new (and first) special chapter of Mujaki no rakuen is online now, so, we have a Uran for time
https://mankitsuscans.wordpress.com/
▶ ロリコン 11/23/17 (Thu) 00:43:13 57d46b (1) No. 80658
>>77148
that was really elloquent SJW's are worse cancer ever
▶ ロリコン 12/07/17 (Thu) 06:20:37 254b85 (1) No. 81645
When I heard this series being ended, I decided to give it a go. Not a huge fan of modern lolicon, but this series is really heart warming. Makes me feel all warm inside again, making me remember my own childhood shenanigans.
▶ ロリコン 12/24/17 (Sun) 00:38:06 768067 (2) No. 82530 >>82716 >>82803
Since this seems to be the right thread for this, thought I should let you fags know that there's an important update about Comiket 98 (the one that occurs around the time of the Olympic games):
http://www.comiket.co.jp/info-a/doujinjapan_announce.html
To summarize all those moon-runes, the Comiket coinciding with the Olympics is NOT cancelled, nor is it being moved from Tokyo Big Sight, the date has been moved to Golden Week (end of April, start of May).
It seems somewhat unlikely that they'd restrict the venue further, after not yielding on it this far, so doujin culture is possibly in the clear?
▶ ロリコン 12/26/17 (Tue) 06:41:04 719708 (1) No. 82716 >>82803
>>82530
I'm still not sure that's excellent news, but at least it's not terrible. Previously Comiket was going to lose access to Big Sight for 3 consecutive events, that would have dealt a huge blow to the doujin scene. They could maybe use this concession as an excuse to discriminate against loli circles participating, but that's pure speculation at this point.
▶ ロリコン 12/28/17 (Thu) 19:04:04 01c2ff (1) No. 82803 >>82822
>>82716
>>82530
What's so holy about Big Sight that Comiket MUST be held there? Its a pretty ugly looking building too.
▶ ロリコン 12/29/17 (Fri) 01:45:45 768067 (2) No. 82822
>>82803
I think in this case it's more of a "oh good, they're not getting flagrantly fucked with" rather than specifically "oh good, the specific venue isn't changing". There had been fears the whole thing would be called off that year, after all.
Plus, it's not so much that it must be, but it's been associated with it pretty strongly (see a picture of Big Sight in anime/manga/any otaku media? People think Comiket). If they had been, for example, forced into a smaller venue for several events, it would have hurt attendance, for sure. As it is there already has to be a lottery for the space for circles.
▶ ロリコン 01/02/18 (Tue) 11:26:02 9140f3 (1) No. 82987
I more or less see this entirely as a business cycle. While certain categories of smut (including loli) seem like they would be going into a relative "hibernation" soon, I don't think they will ever go away. With the rise of borderline H-manga and light novels, I could see a huge resurgence in due time. I’m positive underground and black market circles exist for them, tame or extreme. A little temporary polishing here and there, but things'll probably be back to normal (or mostly) afterwards. Crying croc tears on people based on their preference of anime they like is pretty dumb.
>>77426
This; she wants anime to be a big part of the Olympics. She also defended hentai and loli, if I recall correctly.
