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b44332 (1)  No.12015871>>12015936 >>12016868 >>12017029 >>12017083 >>12017092 >>12017139 >>12017256 >>12017684 >>12017849 >>12017917 >>12017921 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

I just wanted to have this conversation to come to the truth. I am not a shill, this thread is not about dividing the community or shitposting. I honestly just want to have a civil debate.

>alright dumbass what do you have to say for yourself

I believe in global warming. Here is my reasoning:

The suns radiation goes through our atmosphere. As it comes in, it has the energy to penetrate CO2 and other greenhouse gases. However, once those rays hit the ground, their frequency and energy decrease. This means fewer will be able to escape into space with more and more CO2 blocking them in.

Why is this logic wrong?

479e46 (1)  No.12015935>>12017087

[pop]YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>honest, on the internet

i believe you


2ab3c6 (1)  No.12015936

>>12015871 (OP)

Because Earth climate is influenced by bodies as far as Jupiter. We do not have enough data available nor the whole comprehension of the interactions for a good answer.


b553a7 (1)  No.12016769

Si el gringoyim should focus on green instead of wall


83f805 (1)  No.12016773

jews love this, jews hate that, jews support this, jews don't support that, jews jews jews confuse everything, once they are all gone we can have an honest discussion on the issues which remain, doubtful there will be nearly as many, Let's talk about getting rid of the jews and keep the conversation simple, everyone can understand that.


030514 (1)  No.12016815

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File (hide): f21a0da3fc1a2b6⋯.jpg (241.04 KB, 1200x482, 600:241, dilbert climate.jpg) (h) (u)

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where's that clip of a european female politician/scientist explaining co2 to some kiddie protestors


ce9305 (1)  No.12016849

File (hide): b0144085b720d59⋯.gif (1.43 MB, 280x158, 140:79, 1430272339947.gif) (h) (u)

My problem with climate change is that most of it is peddled by so-called "Climate Scientists" who drive gas-gussling cars to work every morning, fly in wasteful jet airplanes, and then have the fucking gaul to stand in a News Studio on TV, point and the audience and say; "This is your fault for not doing enough please give me money!"

Even if climate change wasn't a fucking scam, how is anyone supposed to take that shit seriously?


409a76 (1)  No.12016868

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>>12015871 (OP)

Climate science is very young and the models they create do not agree with reality. They cannot even predict the past, let alone the present or the future.. However, as a scientific point, it is possible the global warming is real and human are exacerbating it, but there is simply not enough good evidence at the moment. That being said, it's true that most global warming enthusiasts cannot talk about “muh climate change” without shilling for (((neo-liberal))) schemes that involve stripping nations of their sovereignty, dictating the minutiae of everyone's lives down to light bulbs and straws, and advocating the mass genocide of Western peoples. Have some caps, maybe it'll help.

Also, for your point on CO2, the Earth is not a closed system so CO2 does escape, but more importantly CO2 is plant food which is constantly being converted into oxygen. Even without plant life, if you follow your argument to its logical conclusion, all planets would be like Venus, and Earth would have never been able to support life.


ae99b5 (1)  No.12017006

There are too many unknowns to model what is going to happen and it's hard to pin point what is causing it. The earth is very big and this process happens relatively slow. Using the results to push an agenda just exerts control over normals. This isn't to say not to worry about pollution as it's important to keep your motherland in a good and healthy state.


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a6b427 (1)  No.12017029

>>12015871 (OP)

I have no problem with the theory of climate change - it's climate alarmism and the entire industry built around that that I have a problem with. I think the conclusions drawn from this are ridiculous - the Earth has gone through several different periods of cooling and heating. Sure certain things about the world will irrevocably change but that's nature for you.


f8bc8d (1)  No.12017046

The climate of the earth is changing, albeit very slowly, just like it has for thousands of years. The earth heats up, and cools down, that's just how it works but the kikes are trying to use this as a way to take away even more freedom. The ice caps have always melted because that's what happens to ice under direct sunlight when the weather becomes warm, but the earth is not going to flood because of this, the jews use peoples fear of death to take advantage of them and have them vote their own freedoms away so they can point the finger at the people and say "you did this we never did anything", while going on to destroy the earth even more. Climates can change very slowly over time with the changes being small, which naturally happens, but the kikes point to this and say it's unnatural, and that we must destroy ourselves for the kikes to continue to destroy the environment and fool all those who don't question their evil and subversive ways.


000000 (1)  No.12017066

>photo of shitty jew actor

>kvetching about the climate scam

lampshade yourself


0f369d (2)  No.12017083>>12017135

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>>12015871 (OP)

The first graphic shows why your hypothesis failed to predict: the 13 micrometer band is already blocked. Adding more CO2 has no effect.

The second graphic shows the basis for the lies of the warming; by "adjusting past data in the US, they've adjusted the satellite data so the whole world appears to be warmer.

Third graphic shows your idiot hypothesis didn't even predict.

Forth graphic explains to retards why the 3rd graphic is important.

The fifth graphic reveals that your "scientists" are a goddamned bunch of fucking frauds and not scientists.


0f369d (2)  No.12017087

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>>12015935

Op is a faggot, slide poster and left wing shill.


a66346 (2)  No.12017092>>12017103

File (hide): ed5ea3ca193502d⋯.gif (23.66 KB, 550x304, 275:152, CO2.gif) (h) (u)

File (hide): 91a6c4efaf345fa⋯.png (124.14 KB, 840x975, 56:65, Cycles.png) (h) (u)

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>>12015871 (OP)

The world is not warming. It is cooling.

The oceans are not rising. In the last 13,000 years they have never risen more slowly.

The deserts are not growing. They are shrinking.

Monsoons are not getting worse. They are becoming milder.

Droughts are not getting worse. They are becoming milder.

Summers are not getting hotter. They are becoming milder.

Winters are getting slightly colder (and snow cover in fall, winter, and spring is growing), and solar scientists are saying we’re going to hit a new maunder minimum soon. This will create a crisis for agriculture because it won’t be warm enough to get as many harvests.

EVERY. SINGLE. FUCKING. CLAIM. THAT AGW PAID JEWISH SHILLS HAVE MADE ARE ALREADY PROVEN FALSE.

Jews IN THE UNITED FUCKING NATIONS ITSELF have OPENLY ADMITTED that AGW doesn’t exist, and that ITS SOLE PURPOSE IS TO STEAL WEALTH AND INDUSTRY FROM WHITE NATIONS AND ALLOW THE THIRD WORLD TO DESTROY US.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

http://www.friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/97_Consensus_Myth.pdf

https://archive.is/xJqb4

http://www.oil-price.net/

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/01/26/all-of-paraguays-temperature-record-has-been-tampered-with/

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/

http://www.edsanders.com/global/c02up2.htm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html

http://www.americantraditions.org/Articles/New%20Evidence%20that%20Man-Made%20Carbon%20Dioxide%20(CO2)%20Does%20Not%20Cause%20Global%20Warming.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/25/science/persistent-and-severe-drought-strikes-again.html

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/interviews/wirth.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/26/gates_renewable_energy_cant_do_the_job_gov_should_switch_green_subsidies_into_rd/

https://archive.is/i29K7

http://rt.com/news/256861-climate-change-un-hoax/

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/18/ipcc-official-%E2%80%9Cclimate-policy-is-redistributing-the-worlds-wealth%E2%80%9D/

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/03/29/j-scott-armstrong-fraction-1-papers-scientific-journals-follow-scientific-method/

https://archive.is/C7ydZ

https://archive.is/UCNZf

https://archive.is/1dxem

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/25/author-fools-peer-reviewed-journals-paper-midi-chlorians/

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/03/rampant-government-corruption.html

http://narrative.ly/stories/nick-brown-smelled-bull/

http://www.rense.com/general67/oils.htm

https://web.archive.org/web/20150910050658/http://www.tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/globalregional.htm

http://ruby.fgcu.edu/courses/twimberley/EnviroPhilo/Estimating.pdf

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.6148.pdf

http://www.jcronline.org.pinnacle.allenpress.com/doi/pdf/10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-10-00157.1

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v439/n7074/abs/nature04448.html

https://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/

http://notrickszone.com/2015/11/20/german-professor-examines-nasa-giss-temperature-datasets-finds-they-have-been-massively-altered/#sthash.8ZXuSkxc.dpbs

http://realclimatescience.com/2016/07/climate-talking-points-for-trump/

https://archive.is/ij67d

https://www.windy.com/

https://realclimatescience.com/2017/09/the-global-temperature-record-is-a-complete-fake/

https://archive.is/RlcQS

https://archive.is/OmmTx

http://scottishsceptic.co.uk/2017/04/02/the-biggest-global-experiment-disproving-co2-as-the-main-cause-of-late-20th-century-warming/

http://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-journal-how-government-twists-climate-statistics/80027CBC-2C36-4930-AB0B-9C3344B6E199.html?mod=trending_now_video_3

https://scienceofdoom.com/

http://notrickszone.com/2017/06/17/what-a-mess-spiegel-reveals-scientists-dont-know-real-temperature-of-the-planet/#sthash.DKBTp893.dpbs

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4648214/NASA-says-solar-minimum-way.html


a66346 (2)  No.12017103

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>>12017092

I even forgot hurricanes and tornadoes (also floods and forest fires), which are at absolute record lows. As the solar output decreases and we hit this new maunder minimum, expect volcanic activity to increase, which will spew shit into the atmosphere, blocking even more sunlight and cooling things further.


616049 (1)  No.12017120

Ithey hunt me? That’s disgusting


764789 (1)  No.12017132

File (hide): 12129a695ff3829⋯.jpg (148.96 KB, 300x250, 6:5, CO2Burner-Greenhouse[1].jpg) (h) (u)

Plants loooooooooooooooooove C02. It makes them grow bigly.

You think you green. You ain't green.


f5db65 (1)  No.12017135

>>12017083

That's ground data that they adjusted, right? I think the satellite data is ok. I could be wrong, I just remember some AGW skeptics differentiating them.


cee4e2 (1)  No.12017139

>>12015871 (OP)

Why does it matter. I assert that the CO2 levels during the Eociene are Earth optimal and we should be doing all we can to increase it. It's great for plants after all. Are you ready for pole to pole forests?

>But much ocean levels

The dutch have been holding back the sea sense at least roman times. This aint rocket surgery. Everywhere that's worth holding the sea back for can have the sea held back. Everywhere else gets to just suck it.

>But the heat

For every 1° increase at the equator there is a 10° increase at the poles, convection simply works better at higher temperatures. And we got fucking air conditioning. Hell people live in Arizona. Maybe outdoor work will need to be done at night, woopty fucking doo.

>Think of the animals

You know what really rapes the animals, roads and fences, loss of habitat because we live and farm where they used to live. Global warming aint shit compared with direct habitat loss. You wanna kvetch about the animals go turn some private land into reserve.

>But dem poor people in affrica and islands and sheeeit

I hope they all die.


3e871f (1)  No.12017181

File (hide): 681f5c7278470b1⋯.jpg (1.95 MB, 2725x1964, 2725:1964, temperature record.jpg) (h) (u)

the Earth warms and cools according to solar cycles, carbon dioxide has nothing to do with it

>the temperature record does not indicate abnormal warming; in fact, we are now cooling

>carbon dioxide is a weak greenhouse gas and would not cause global warming; water vapor has a stronger greenhouse effect and there is much more of it

>carbon dioxide is not a pollutant and is good for plants

>the vast majority of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is natural, literally like 97%

>warming wouldn't even be a bad thing, we've been warmer before and it was fine, it's good for biodiversity as it expands the tropics and allows species to live further north, it's good for agricultural productivity as well

I could go on but global warming is such complete bullshit in every way


6f4488 (1)  No.12017256

File (hide): 6bcd0a2ef09fce5⋯.jpg (267.06 KB, 1178x1142, 589:571, muh climate change.jpg) (h) (u)

>>12015871 (OP)

Who cares?

At this rate, humanity will be extinct before it matters.


281eed (1)  No.12017263

[pop]YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

theres no such thing as "The Ozone Layer" but there is an area where cosmic rays hit the upper atmosphere and a reaction between the energy of the rays and the atoms and molecules interact producing free radicals that constitute ozone(o3)

>there is no depletion of the "ozone layer" as its an ongoing reaction between the suns rays and the molecules meeting way up high, and cfc's are a heavy molecule which cannot be blown up into the upper atmosphere. also humans dont want or need ozone around us so cfcs were actually helping because they only spread to the areas where humans could reach and they diminished ozone levels around us. ozone is actually increasing because of all our electronic devices and electric motors and power stations.

>ozone generating air filters are bad for you, why do u want more local ozone?


4565ea (1)  No.12017684

>>12015871 (OP)

Ok. here it comes. Hold onto your seats and engage your minds.

They got it ALL wrong.

CO2 is a coupling agent. It both vibrates in sync with IR radiation, and also absorbs and imparts kinetic energy into that same vibration.

the coupling is asymmetric, and depends on the relative timing of the emission of IR vs physical collisions.

Dumb scientists thought they'd measure the relaxation of vibration to release IR by whacking a bunch of gas at rest to saturation (with lasers), to get a relaxation time.

They then said the microseconds that takes to the nanoseconds between kinetic collisions and decided that warming the atmosphere dominates.

However. That's not really correct. CO2 in the atmosphere is in thermal equilibrium, releasing IR at a rate determined soley by the temperature of the gas. It isn't radiating all around, either, but is coherent with the upwelling IR from earth.

If you point a IR thermometer at the sky, look what it says. Then point it at a cloud. Now tell me, is the invisible CO2 doing much, compared to that cloud?

So, in reality, IR isn't released in bursts, exciting CO2 which then warms the sky. Instead, it is a constant resonance, beaming out into space. CO2 that gets in the way goes into resonance with that upwelling IR, limiting its own IR release to be part of that larger resonance, in a steady state equilibrium with the gas around it.

Relaxations at that point take pico seconds, so dominate the asymmetry.

And that's not all. When the sun goes down, and the upwelling IR from earth drops, that extra CO2 is cooling the atmosphere.

So, the net forcing of CO2 is <1, it opposes warming, and always peaks before an ice age.

Which is why the IPCC models are always wrong, although the last lot had the forcing as <1 at the 85% confidence limits…

t.Asperger's genius anon who just knows shit.


968c5f (1)  No.12017704

climate changes

./ thread

Man is just along for the ride and insignificant as after th sun red giants there will still be changes long after your underground or have killed all the sub humans pulling on your coat tails for gibsmedat then be able to seed space without dead weight and kike fuckery using that inertia to suppress you from exterminating them.


aca96c (1)  No.12017746

They're setting the stage to make money. Carbon tax, carbon credits, pay to drive, etc, etc. It's to push more taxation and make more jews even richer. People in the U.N. have planned this for decades. Just because they are U.N. leaders, doesn't mean they aren't part of an elite syndicate of criminals.


b4b855 (1)  No.12017797

File (hide): e3cf1c089c32e7b⋯.png (422.97 KB, 1094x862, 547:431, Greening Earth.png) (h) (u)

I'd like you all to consider the entire planet as a chemical reaction

The "reactants" are Carbon Dioxide, Oxygen, Water, and Nitrogen.

The "products" are all the life you see around you on Earth.

Just like a real chemical reaction, the Reactants will combine to form the Products. However, there is also a reverse reaction that takes place, whereby the Products convert back into Reactants. Depending on the relative speed of the "forward reaction" and the "reverse reaction", you will have more or less product at equilibrium.

Did you follow me? Re-read it again if you're confused.

Moving on. This means that the net biomass of life on Earth is set largely by the amount of reactants present in the environment, as well as the relative speed of the forward and reverse reactions.

In most complicated chemical reactions, you have 1 ingredient which is in lower supply than the others that "chokes" the reaction. So for example, let's say you're creating Calcium Phosphate, but you're short on the Phosphate. At equilibrium, you're going to have a bunch of extra Calcium hanging around in solution, but not so much Phosphate (because this is the limiting reactant). There will be a tiny trace amount of Phosphate, because of the reverse reaction, but it will be barely measurable, and certainly in far more limited supply than all that unused Calcium.

Therefore, if we want to see which of the ingredients is choking off the reaction, just look for the one that is in scarce supply.

So which is it? Well 70% of the Earth is water, I doubt that's it. And 70% of the atmosphere is Nitrogen, very doubtful this is correct. Now let's decide between the remaining two, Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide. 20% of th atmosphere is Oxygen, and 0.04% is Carbon Dioxide. Which do you think is the better candidate here?

Once you understand that Carbon is the limiting reactant, ask yourself what would happen if someone came along and dumped a bunch of extra Carbon into the system? Well going back to the example of the calcium phosphate reaction, what would happen if you dumped a bunch more Phosphate in? To answer: more Calcium Phosphate would form, but the amount of Phosphate hanging around in solution would only increase slightly. Because the speed of the reverse reaction has not increased all that much.

Follow all this? I hope so, if not crack open a chemistry textbook.

So if you add more Carbon Dioxide to the system, you will just create a lot more biomass, without increasing the amount of Carbon in the atmosphere all that much. We can see this happening, the earth is greening significantly. Plants grow faster, this leads to more rich and diverse ecosystems.

You might object and say, why is the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing? It's probably because this imbalance takes a long time to balance itself out. Sucking the extra CO2 out of the atmosphere and assimilating it into plant and animal life is a slow moving process. But the higher the CO2 levels get, the more quickly and efficiently it is done. This means the CO2 in the atmosphere does not increase eternally, but finds a new equilibrium to match our output.


9139d3 (1)  No.12017809>>12017911

I think man made climate change is a hoax. The climate changes all of the time and extreme weather happens regardless of humanity or not. However, we are damaging the environment with our excess waste and consumption of goods. Plenty of plastics in the water, over fishing of waters, urban expansion will become a bigger issue as well as time goes on, animals will have less room to survive.


91d215 (1)  No.12017849

>>12015871 (OP)

Think back then, dinosaurs used to drive SUV.

Then someday, some dude told them to stop doing it because of all the warm and guess what? Global cooling and all dinosaurs died.

More recently, humans sent an SUV on Mars and do you know what happened?

Mars climate got hotter.


f31487 (1)  No.12017883

The people pushing it don't believe it. They are equivalent to an 80s AIDS doomsday prophet telling people not to bother with condoms when they advocate at the same time argue in favour of population transfer from low- to high-carbon footprint lands. There is little that so obviously follows from CO2 emission potentially causing catastrophe and human extinction than not moving millions of people to places where they will emit manifold times more of it.


3f68c8 (1)  No.12017893

We need to eradicate the non-white menace and raze the kike's corporate monopolies to save the planet tbh.


abc35a (1)  No.12017911

>>12017809

This

Although I would specify that its the bastards in the board rooms who perpetuate the "global trade" which is doing the damage, not us per se.

Who is Behind the Climate Change Hoax?

https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-is-behind-the-climate-change-hoax/

Davis Guggenheim (Ashkenazi jew) – Director, An Inconvenient Truth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_Guggenheim

Jeffrey Skoll (Ashkenazi jew) – Executive Producer, An Inconvenient Truth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Skoll

Joseph J. Romm (Ashkenazi jew) – Senior Fellow, Center for American Progress

http://www.americanprogress.org/experts/RommJoseph.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_J._Romm

Stephen H. Schneider (Ashkenazi jew) – Professor of Environmental Biology and Global Change, Stanford University

http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Schneider

Michael E. Mann (Ashkenazi jew) – Professor of Meteorology, Pennsylvania State University

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/Mann

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._Mann

Gavin A. Schmidt (Ashkenazi jew) – Climatologist, NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/staff/gschmidt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Schmidt

Benjamin D. Santer (Ashkenazi jew) – Climate Researcher, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

http://www.eoearth.org/article/Santer,_Benjamin_D.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_D._Santer

Carbon Taxes/Carbon Trading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_emission_trading

Todd D. Stern (Ashkenazi jew) – Special Envoy for Climate Change, U.S. State Department

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/122554.htm

http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Todd_D._Stern

Richard L. Sandor (Ashkenazi jew) – Chairman and Founder, Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX)

http://www.chicagoclimatex.com/content.jsf?id=122

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1663317_1663322_1669930,00.html

Nicholas H. Stern (Ashkenazi jew) – Professor of Economics and Government, London School of Economics (LSE)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Stern,_Baron_Stern_of_Brentford

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_Review

Ignacy Sachs (Ashkenazi jew) – Socioeconomist, École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales

http://www.unhistory.org/CD/Sachs.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignacy_Sachs


de0dfd (1)  No.12017917

>>12015871 (OP)

>Honest, open debate about climate change

>I believe in global warming

What a disingenuous nigger you are. No one denies that the Earth's climate changes. Furthermore, no one denies that the Earth has hot cycles that can be referred to as "global warming".

What you talk about later in your post is man-made global warming, which has been debunked countless fucking times at this point. Greenhouse gases have no long term effect on the Earth. Seriously, go watch the original "Inconvenient Truth" and come back to tell me how much of the predictions in that propaganda–oops I mean movie, were right.


cce1a9 (1)  No.12017921

>>12015871 (OP)

It's simpler than that. Just look at the timeline:

I948…..The Cold War begins.

1949 - 1985……"The evil communists are the the major threat to the earth!

If we don't do something, the earth will be destroyed by nuclear war!

We must increase international co-operation to stop this threat,

and also spend lots of money and curtail some of your freedoms, for your own good, we have to do this to save the earth!

(Cue endless films and TV documentaries showing how the earth will be destroyed by nuclear war. Everyone gets very scared.)

1985-1991…. Gorbachev gets elected in Russia. International tension starts to fizzle out. The Berlin wall falls in 1989, Russia's allies in Europe all throw out communism, and then the communist Soviet Union comes to an end in 1991.

(Films and TV documentaries about the horrors of nuclear war stop being show. Everyone breaths a sigh of relief.)

1992….Big international Earth Summit held in Rio. Everyone is told that they have just discovered that the earth is heating up, and we will all be destroyed in a few years.

1992 -2007…Global Warming is the major threat to the earth! If we don't do something, the earth will be destroyed by rising temperatures! We must increase international co-operation to stop this threat,

and also spend lots of money and curtail some of your freedoms, for your own good, we have to do this to save the earth!

(Cue endless films and TV documentaries showing how the earth will be destroyed by Global Warming. Everyone gets very scared.)

2007….Because the earth refuses to heat up, they change the name of the looming Apocalypse to Climate Change.

2007 - 2018….Climate Change is the major threat to the earth! If we don't do something, the earth will be destroyed by constantly changing weather! We must increase international co-operation to stop this threat,

and also spend lots of money and curtail some of your freedoms, for your own good, we have to do this to save the earth!

(Cue endless films and TV documentaries showing how the earth will be destroyed by Climate Change. Everyone gets very scared.)

The elite need something to scare the children so that they can mold the earth the way they want to. They used to have the cold war to do this.

When the cold war ended they needed something else, and that something else is the completely fake Global Warming/Climate Change hoax.

Documentaries on the Earth being destroyed by nuclear weapons were immediately replaced by documentaries on the earth being destroyed by Global Warming.

The transition between the two was almost seamless.

That's all you need to know.

You don't have to waste your time delving into "The Science".

You just have to ask yourself, "Who benefits?"




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