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    Chris Peterson‏ @cpeterso Jul 23

    YouTube page load is 5x slower in Firefox and Edge than in Chrome because YouTube's Polymer redesign relies on the deprecated Shadow DOM v0 API only implemented in Chrome. You can restore YouTube's faster pre-Polymer design with this Firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/youtube-classic …

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      2. Chris Peterson‏ @cpeterso Jul 23

        YouTube serves a Shadow DOM polyfill to Firefox and Edge that is, unsurprisingly, slower than Chrome's native implementation. On my laptop, initial page load takes 5 seconds with the polyfill vs 1 without. Subsequent page navigation perf is comparable.

        4 replies 56 retweets 159 likes
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      3. Chris Peterson‏ @cpeterso 12h12 hours ago

        To fix YouTube on Edge, you can install the Tampermonkey extension for Edge and this "YouTube Restore Classic" user script: https://openuserjs.org/about/Tampermonkey-for-Edge … https://openuserjs.org/scripts/Cpt_mathix/Youtube_-_Restore_Classic …

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      2. eric newsom‏ @3_r1c 22h22 hours ago
        Replying to @cpeterso

        this is a weird move. If youtube loads slowly for someone they won't think it's their browser, but the site.

        9 replies 1 retweet 55 likes
      3. Chris Peterson‏ @cpeterso 22h22 hours ago
        Replying to @3_r1c

        I assume Google has metrics showing that the Polymer redesign increases Firefox and Edge user engagement more than the slow polyfills hurt it. 🤷‍♂️ YouTube still serves the pre-Polymer design to IE11 by default so they could choose to serve it to Firefox and Edge too.

        2 replies 5 retweets 51 likes
      4. Kyle Pflug‏ @kylealden 16h16 hours ago
        Replying to @cpeterso @marypcbuk @3_r1c

        Or drives those users to Chrome 🤔

        3 replies 1 retweet 27 likes
      5. Jez‏ @JezCorden 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @kylealden @cpeterso and

        We need an Edge addon that circumvents this lameness. Google needs another 5 billion fine 🤔

        3 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
      6. Chris Peterson‏ @cpeterso 12h12 hours ago
        Replying to @JezCorden @kylealden and

        Chris Peterson Retweeted Chris Peterson

        Here's a YouTube fix for Edge:https://twitter.com/cpeterso/status/1021943928524693504 …

        Chris Peterson added,

        Chris Peterson @cpeterso
        Replying to @7kayhan @YouTube
        To fix YouTube on Edge, you can install Tampermonkey extension for Edge plus this "YouTube Restore Classic" user script: https://openuserjs.org/about/Tampermonkey-for-Edge … https://openuserjs.org/scripts/Cpt_mathix/Youtube_-_Restore_Classic …
        0 replies 3 retweets 10 likes
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      2. Kayhan Suleman‏ @7kayhan 12h12 hours ago
        Replying to @cpeterso

        I always wondered why @YouTube works like ass on Edge even though the browser works great with everything else.

        1 reply 2 retweets 18 likes
      3. Chris Peterson‏ @cpeterso 12h12 hours ago
        Replying to @7kayhan @YouTube

        To fix YouTube on Edge, you can install Tampermonkey extension for Edge plus this "YouTube Restore Classic" user script: https://openuserjs.org/about/Tampermonkey-for-Edge … https://openuserjs.org/scripts/Cpt_mathix/Youtube_-_Restore_Classic …

        1 reply 2 retweets 11 likes
      4. Your New Waifu‏ @AutizmoAutizm 10h10 hours ago
        Replying to @cpeterso @7kayhan @YouTube

        Will this script also work for Firefox?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Chris Peterson‏ @cpeterso 9h9 hours ago
        Replying to @AutizmoAutizm @7kayhan @YouTube

        Yes. You can use that Tampermonkey script in Firefox, but a much simpler solution is to install this "YouTube Classic" Firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/youtube-classic …

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
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      2. Another UI Guy‏ @anotheruiguy 17h17 hours ago
        Replying to @cpeterso

        I admit that I am not 100% schooled on Polymer, but I have read this Tweet a number of times and I am really confused as to the statement. YouTube's new redesign relies on Polymer 1.0, by which is the only version that I know of that has a dependency on Shadow Dom v0?

        2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
      3. Another UI Guy‏ @anotheruiguy 17h17 hours ago
        Replying to @anotheruiguy @cpeterso

        From Polymer 2.0 docs > You can test Polymer 2.x by using the latest 1.0 version of webcomponentsjs, which is included as a bower dependency to Polymer 2.x. (webcomponentsjs versions prior to 1.0 support the older, v0 specifications for custom elements and shadow DOM.)

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      4. Chris Peterson‏ @cpeterso 17h17 hours ago
        Replying to @anotheruiguy

        YouTube launched the Polymer redesign about a year ago. Polymer 2.0 and 3.0 support both Shadow DOM v0 and v1, but YouTube is still using Polymer 1.0.

        0 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
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      2. Harald Schmid‏ @splendidturmoil 17h17 hours ago
        Replying to @cpeterso

        Why anyone would use chrome is beyond me, a product by a company that already controls many critical elements of the internet.

        2 replies 3 retweets 11 likes
      3. Eric E Lawrence‏ @TheEricLawrence 8h8 hours ago
        Replying to @splendidturmoil @cpeterso

        Here’s what CNN looks like in Firefox iOS vs Chrome iOS.pic.twitter.com/YGlULDH5Qs

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Chris Peterson‏ @cpeterso 7h7 hours ago
        Replying to @TheEricLawrence @splendidturmoil

        Firefox iOS and Chrome iOS both use WebKit (because Apple doesn't allow other web engines). Maybe those layout differences are due to Firefox Tracking Protection, the shield icon in the upper left corner? FWIW, http://cnn.com  looks fine in my Firefox iOS.

        1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
      5. Harald Schmid‏ @splendidturmoil 7h7 hours ago
        Replying to @cpeterso @TheEricLawrence

        Same here. http://Cnn.com  on latest firefox for iOS on iPhone X.pic.twitter.com/mALaliIprr

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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