I’m guessing they fired their social media intern then. Just because it’s on a company’s Twitter doesn’t mean the company supports it especially when it’s deleted immediately
Reminds me of the controversy of this little black boy wearing a shirt with "coolest monkey in the jungle" in a fashion catalogue, or when a German journalist remarked the behavior of Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang with the word "Affenzirkus" (engl. "charade", literally, "circus of apes"). I think those were unintentional, same for GOG. Sometimes you don't think about the context (in nowadays complex societies and cultures, it's not as obvious as a bad joke at a funeral or other inappropriate situations). One (interpreted) misconduct won't change my mind about GOG. People are generally very harsh, when it comes down to that. You can build up your reputation over years, but might loose it over night; same goes for individual people.
It seems entirely plausible that whoever wrote the original tweet knew exactly what they were doing, but that doesn’t mean it represents the viewpoint of most or even many at GOG. Certainly a reason to question their worldview. But not necessarily draw a solid conclusion.
It's being brigaded by KotakuInAction. Anyone who dares to disagree with Gamergaters will be downvoted. ...which is pretty hilarious when you remember that the main right-wing argument is that they're "for freedom of speech". Who's doing the censoring now?
So why does someone need to get fired right away if a mistake like this happens? I mean they even removed it right away and apologized for christ's sake. I thought we where over ppl getting fired over Twitter bs after the story with Arenanet...
Wouldn’t we outnumber them? I wasn’t seeing that many upvotes when I was downvoting. Edit: I’m afraid to even ask what absurdity “KotakuInAction” is.
Gamergate is determined and focussed on harrassing people. There is no opposing group as invested as they are.
I appreciate the specificity in the apology. That wasn't a half-apology, and it's very up-front in the detail that was overlooked, without becoming a billboard for the hate movement behind it. I assume whoever made the post did it intentionally, but it's reasonable to think that person will have a closer set of eyes on them regardless, the same way others will (rightfully) be taking a closer look at GOG's overall communications.
The apology is fine and all but I’ll wait to see how well they stick by it. And yeah, those comments are gross. What sad, pathetic little children they are.
I would not believe an actual employee would be this stupid. But either way someone is getting fired.
Normally /r/gog is not very active. There's only like 2 posts per day, each with max 10 comments. Ending Brazilian language support only got 30 comments. It's such a small and insignificant subreddit that there aren't enough people to fight the KiA downvote brigade. KiA is the main Gamergate subreddit.
I'm not in the habit of crucifying people for singular mistakes, especially when they turn around and apologise. What more do you want of them?
Oh geez, all those twitter replies. Gamergate was definitely real you guys! The lengths some manchildren go through to convince themselves that their bigotry is ok...
No need to fire them by default. If it was an honest mistake (though going by the Reddit post it still sounds like the “pissing on journalism” bit was intentional, and... why?), whoever’s handling the Twitter just needs to have a conversation about their policies (which might also need to be improved) and be much more careful going forward. If it wasn’t, that should result in a very different conversation about their culture and what’s considered ok, and so on.
People I know that have criticisms about games journalism never talk about it because it's so... inconsequential. Dude sounds like he had an axe to grind. The problem with assuming someone is slipping in messages supporting hateful groups and movements is its designed to provoke their opposition into outrage. You take the bait, they win. You ignore them, they go unchallenged and win. No good options.
Didn't GOG just have a big sale where they asked a number of big outlets to create their own bundles of their favorite games? Pretty tone deaf way to follow that up.
I think this is in reference to game journal pro email group and the "gamers are dead" articles that popped up. A lot of shady stuff was going on that was brought to light. It's unfortunate that many good people got caught in the crossfire. It's unfortunate that a cheating scandle that should not have been public kicked off the movement
No. It is, and always was, just a way to harass women and minorities who dare to be a part of the games industry. Nothing good or useful came of it. It's disgraceful that it exists in any way.
Man, don't know how there's still so much backlash to this, even after a removal/apology. I didn't know what the date was in relation to and honestly have very little knowledge relating to GG stuff in general (Probably better for it to stay that way tbh). It's good they removed and apologized after realizing the link, but think it seems pretty harsh to assume people were fired over it and they knew what it meant and etc. There's not enough proof to suggest that. In fact, don't know why more people aren't going after the Postal 2 devs in putting that date on the tombstone (They did? Unless it was photo shopped/edited?)
I take the apology at face value. Once is ok, but if I see more I'll have to stop using GoG. That would suck because GoG is the superior product.
Goddamn, I know I will have a talk with a mate tomorrow who will throw around the "but why do we have to be political correct all the time" argument. Sucks that I am bad at debates.
So yeah, I'm Konrad from that Reddit thread. Hello everybody! This is kind of a spot-on interpretation of what happened. "The game is so crude so hey, let's go with this." Out of the two people who regularly work with our social accounts, neither of us was aware that it's far more deliberate and loaded imagery than just your run of the mill, bone-cutting, piss-on-journalism edge. I gotta say, what gets me the hardest is stuff like "Oh, you guys took a stance but got bullied into apologizing". I mean no – I'm sitting right here and it's not what happened, there was no stance, only a careless tweet. The outcry did make us aware of the implication. Good. Now we know and we're better for it.
They should fire whoever is in charge of their Twitter account. Companies should have a zero tolerance policy for things like this. I dont buy the ignorance claim.
I know an intern at a pretty large company, and she can post to the company's primary Twitter and Facebook feed her own. I was pretty surprised. She said there was supposed to be a manager approving everything, but that in practice he didn't care. Or, he would give it a quick glance, but nothing more than that.
Sometimes you just need to take a leap of faith in humanity and assume it was an innocent screw up, you know?
Well, 1. I was wrong, it wasn’t removed immediately, and 2. As someone who does social media work for companies, it’s highly unlikely that it was posted mistakenly. Additionally, social media “guru” is a job anyone can do for them. If you’re being represented by a Gamergater, that’s alienating for many customers, myself included. If I were CD Projekt Red, I’d fire him too or transfer him somewhere where he couldn’t represent us publicly.
Again it was honest mistake and they removed it and apologized the rest are just assumptions you don't have any proof for whatsoever.
To be fair, the people on Reddit and Twitter are more upset at what seems to be an anti-gamergate stance than the idea of actually apologizing for it. Reminds me of that one backer message in Pillars of Eternity 1 that got changed when the devs admitted it wouldn't have made it into the game in the first place if it was properly caught.
That's kinda what I figured. Normally when people actually take a stance and backpedal they do it with a half-assed "sorry you got offended" apology, while you guys seemed pretty genuinely unaware of how much of a hornets nest you accidently kicked. Good luck with that reddit thread lmao.
Thank god for the EU's labour laws. As someone who interned at a rather big company and had access to all their social media channels, yes.
I don't know too much of gamergate but if its started August 2014 and its a tombstone with that date. Wouldnt that be against gamergate or am I reading it wrong?
I'm glad that GOG condemned the hateful GG movement and apologized for their mistake. We shouldn't bandwagon them because that exactly what the GGters are doing to them right now. I'm sure that some GGters are also contacting them to close their account after their apology.
This seems like an honest mistake made out of ignorance rather than having the bad intentions people are assuming it had.
I'd like to think I'm fairly plugged in, but I'm not sure I would have connected the date or even noticed the date if I was the one posting this. I mean it's perfectly obvious with a bit of context, but not up front. Regardless I don't think firing anyone after an immediate retraction and apology is in any way warranted.
While it could just as well fan the flames, would you consider posting that on Twitter, too? Because I think it could steer some of that completely false "SJWs are ruining muh games!11" narrative in a healthier direction.
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