Afghanistani government asked British to give them lethal gases for use against Pashtun tribes [1932-34]
The Afghanistani government tried to acquire gas shells for use against the Pashtun/Afghan tribes (in the events of dangerous risings) between 1932-34. However, it was denied by the British for various reasons. The documents also reveal that the Afghan government had employed a German chemist who pretended that he could make lethal gas. The Afghans asked him to fill a room with this gas so that they could test its effects on criminals. He declined on grounds of humanity.
https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100000000555.0x0002dd
A decade earlier British themselves had debated whether to use poison gases (mustard gas etc) on Pashtun tribes on their North West Frontier but the idea was dismissed because of the danger of alienating pro-British Pashtuns in present-day FATA on whom they greatly depended . Many officers on the ground were asking for use of gas against Pashtuns in turbulent areas but the higher-ups did not approve it. http://www.kingscollections.org/media/srv_sld/pdf/TheServingSoldier.AsymmetryInAfghanistan-ThePoisonGasOption.pdf
The Afghan government of Nadir Khan must have been fearing another Bacha-i-Saqao episode , hence the attempt to acquire chemical weapons. "Pathan tribes" are specified in the British documents because they (being rebellious and unruly in nature) posed greatest danger to the monarchy out of all (e.g read about Shinwari rebellion against King Amanullah). Kabul monarchy, which was Pashtun, would have also used chemical weapons against any other ethnicity if they had got their hands on it. If i rebel against my king , i wont expect to be spared just because i share race with the king. If you are a Pashtun and you are trying to kill me, fight or flight response will be triggered regardless of me sharing race with you. Nationalist bigots dont get it. Pashtun nationalist bigots are in disbelief that a Pashtun monarchy would even think about using chemical weapons against their own people (Pashtuns)....they have some kind of memory loss, the Pashtun commies in 80s spilled a lot of Pashtun blood, and Taliban (Pashtuns) are killing Pashtuns without any regard for race. Hazara nationlist bigots cry that Amir Abdur Rahman crushed them because he was a racist. What was he supposed to do? distribute sweets in Hazarajat upon revolt of Hazaras against him?. In the history , kings have killed have their own brothers and fathers, and governments to this day go ruthless against its own people if they rebel.
Afghanistani government asked British to give them lethal gases for use against Pashtun tribes [1932-34]
Afghanistani government asked British to give them lethal gases for use against Pashtun tribes [1932-34]
The Afghanistani government tried to acquire gas shells for use against the Pashtun/Afghan tribes (in the events of dangerous risings) between 1932-34. However, it was denied by the British for various reasons. The documents also reveal that the Afghan government had employed a German chemist who pretended that he could make lethal gas. The Afghans asked him to fill a room with this gas so that they could test its effects on criminals. He declined on grounds of humanity.
https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100000000555.0x0002dd
Afghanistani government asked British to give them lethal gases for use against Pashtun tribes [1932-34]
Afghanistani government asked British to give them lethal gases for use against Pashtun tribes [1932-34]
The Afghanistani government tried to acquire gas shells for use against the Pashtun/Afghan tribes (in the events of dangerous risings) between 1932-34. However, it was denied by the British for various reasons. The documents also reveal that the Afghan government had employed a German chemist who pretended that he could make lethal gas. The Afghans asked him to fill a room with this gas so that they could test its effects on criminals. He declined on grounds of humanity.
https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100000000555.0x0002dd
very nice collection. Is johne burke's work mostly around the kabul to peshawar area?
Yes. Photos of Kandahar and surroundings were taken by Sir Benjamin Simpson during that war. https://www.facebook.com/pg/Barmazid/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1766074933675116
But yet they still ran away to Karachi, Islamabad or Lahore. I bet if these three cities weren't safe like Kabul your noble people would have also left for Europe. Pakistanis can't last 1 month under Taliban rule. Remember swat and the big cry for help like if it was qiamat.
You and your usual stupid and blind nationalism. I did not spare Pakistanis in my above comments so why you are all so worked up?. What i call "trash" and "scums" of our society, includes Pakistanis, Afghanistanis or any other people from Third World Countries of Asia and Africa who would go to any length to get asylum and ultimately citizenship in Europe. They get there through fraudulent and illegal means. They have no imaan, no soul and have compromised morals. They act trashy there and give bad names to their respective cultures and religion. I bet you wont want them to be your neighbors there. You lot are sheltered westernized kids, you wont be able to tolerate that trash as your neighbor there.
It so happens that Pashtuns in Afgh-Pak (and others) lie that they are threatened by Taliban and they fool the westerns with that lie to get asylum. Taliban went to the length of writing letters to threaten a nobody like him? . Any body there in Afghanistan can write fake letters for him in Pashto. Who is the Taliban commander in his area? do Austrian authorities know the signature of that particular Taliban commander?. Why your friend is so special that Taliban specially wrote a letter to him?. If his asylum was once rejected then i am sure he is a nobody and his life is as much in danger and misery as any other inhabitant of Afghanistan.
I dont know why Europe is stuffing itself with trash from third world counties of Asia and Africa. Are European governments trying to prove that they are best of humanity?. As far as i know the trash from third world countries has disturbed the society of European countries with rising crimes and anti-Muslim protests happen a lot. I have read some where that Afghans stand out among the refugees committing crimes in Austria.
Six Bengal tigers end up in a hell (i.e Peshawar)
Poor tigers.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1742439/1-peshawar-zoo-gets-six-bengal-tigers/
More than 30 animals have died in the Peshawar Zoo since it was inaugurated. https://www.dawn.com/news/1405399
Pashtuns are neither South Asian (Hindi) nor Central Asian (Turani) nor Middle eastern (Persio-Arabs). Their historical homeland (not the present-day Afghanistan but Pakhtunkhwa/Roh) is sandwiched between India, Persia and Turan.
Turani doesn't mean Central Asian. Turan is a fictional place in the Shahnameh that referred to the Iran-Turkmenistan-Afghanistan border region. It also has nothing to do with Turks in case anyone thought that.
Turan always had geographical meaning in medieval period, its not a fictional name of fictional account. Originally Turan was name of a region near Mekran . Later the name was transferred to Central Asia. For example Tabakat-i-Nasiri (which is 13th century official history of Turk Sultans of India) use the word Turan for Central Asia. While narrating the account of Mahmud Ghaznavi, it says "He (Sultan Mahmud) threw a bridge over Jihun (Oxus river) and marched his forces into Turan..." [p-84, Raverty's translation]
In middle and late medieval period Turani became synonymous with Turk of Central Asia so that Kazaks, Uzbeks etc are referred to as Turani in Mughal sources of India.
His name is 'Aimal Khan', named after famous Pashtun leader of 17th century. They made sure that the scumbag is arrested by Lady Police of Chitral
The guy in video has been identified and will be prosecuted as per law, DC Chitral posted on Twitter.
Source: https://twitter.com/dc_chitral/status/1009059934699388928?s=21
Prosecuted? all DCO is talking about is making his bio public after legal formalities.
There is one big difference between Desis and Pashtuns when it comes to such behaviour. Punjabis and other Desis do stalking/harassment of girls/women in their own mohallah/villages as well as any where else. Pashtuns on the other hand are "ghairatmand", they wont do chairrchaarr with womenfolk of their own village but they think its o.k for them to do it any where else when no one relevant is watching and judging. His Pashto/Pashtunwali is confined to his own village. He does not feel bound by it when he is in some distant place. Thats why the staunch and most typical Pashtuns (particularly those from no-go-areas of FATA and FR) would be gentlemen in their villages but would rob and steal in neighboring areas. This trait (of not feeling bound by Pashto outside their native villages) was also shown by Pashtuns of Afghanistan when they migrated to Pakistan. Moreover Pashtun idea of honour is protecting and guarding the sanctity of vaginas of the women of their own family. He is not concerned with honour of other women, he is not chivalrous.
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Mian is not a tribe, its a title. People with Mian title do not exist in my native area so i am not well informed about their social status in Pashtun society . But i am sure about one thing, a proper Sayyid (or should i say ones with strong history of being Sayyid) would never count himself among Miangan......the Miangans , who are these days calling themselves Sayyids, are not acknowledged true by Sadaat-of-best-reputation.. At some point in relatively recent past, a misconception developed that Mian means Sayyid. But Sayyids do not call themselves Mian in Pakhtunkhwa or any where else. Sayyids had highest status among religious groups so naturally other religious families (of Pashtun and non-Pashtun origin), also made false claims that they are Sayyids, hoping that some time in future their descendants will be acknowledged as full Sayyids (Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth) . Majority of Sayyids in Indo-Pak and elsewhere sprung like this.
Kaka Khels, interestingly, are pure Pashtuns. They are actually Shaikhan, descendants of a Pashtun saint from Khattak tribe by name of Shaikh Rahimkar (saints of Pashtun descent are referred to as Shaikh). They made a false claim in 19th century that they are Sayyids as British had exempted Sayyids from taxation, and at some they begin to call themselves Miangan (perhaps due to the misconception floating around that Mian means Sayyid).
What about kakakhel (miangaan ) , they are also not sayyids ?
I have updated the post with details about your question , read it.
where exactly do they live now? it mentions between DI khan and DG khan but are they in balochistan, kpk, or punjab? also considering their location do they speak pashto
F.R DI Khan. They are Pashto speakers.
FATA-wals are by and large stupid people. They should have focused on removing FCR while at the same time retaining semi-autonomous status. Their next best option should have been a separate province rather than merger with KP. By merger of FATA with KP, Pashtuns have lost seats in Senate, and FATA-wals have lost quota seats every where in Pakistan outside KP. ANP-walas have fooled them in the name of nationalism and unity. They will be ignored by Takht-i-Peshawar.
FATA is 100% Pashtun region, its not them but Pashtuns of Baluchistan who needs to be rescued. Pashtuns of Baluchistan are psychologically and culturally losing to Balochs. Balochs are bullying them and are not giving them due rights and representation in the province . Its in Balochistan that Pashtuns might lose further areas to much aggressive Balochs. Its 11 districts of Baluchistan including entire Quetta which needs to be merged with KP.
I had a bosnian and albanian classmate and they told me that they also have the superstitions with clipping nails. That's funny because turks and iraqis I know don't know it. Although Turkey and Iraq are nearer to Afghanistan than Bosnia or Albania. Btw would you list the superstitions among pashtuns you've heard of?
We have superstition that nail cuttings should not be thrown on ground. Consequences are not explained, we simply say 'na yi sha' (its not good to do so).
i always thought the name had something to do with the farsi word koh, are you certain about it being named after a ruler?
One can not be certain when it comes to legends and oral traditions. G.Tucker must have recorded the legend from natives of Kohat. My post is about photographs, the textual content is just a tidbit which i copy pasted from the book as cited. At the moment i dont have time for a thoroughly researched article on Kohat history.
Bangash as i mentioned before, was originally name of the region. Later Karlanri tribes of Malik-Miri, Baizai and Kaghzai of Bangash region were collectively referred to as Bangash. About your question , Tarikh-i-Murassa tells us that Orakzai Afghans were occupying the plains of Kohat as far as river Indus before advances of Khattaks and Bangashes. Mughal sources inform us that as late as 16th century , Orakzais were still in possession of parts of the Kohat plains/valley.
I know that Khiljis were turks so...
Ghilzais have nothing to do with Khaljis. I have written a blog post about it http://www.barmazid.com/2016/11/khalj-sultans-of-delhi-were-not-afghans.html
most of the notables in Pashtun history were "Gul Khans" at one point
Most notables in Pashtun history fought for Pashtun people and their freedom from foreign powers, whereas Gul Khans kiss the ass of the Punjabis and wish to remain under the boot of Punjab, stop pushing pseudo history.
Are you fighting against foreign occupation of your country?. If i am not wrong you are a resident and citizen of a country (America) which has invaded and occupied your native country. Are you a Gul Khan?
Not that Im aware of, every ethnicity has their own culture and history that they embrace, nobody is forced to learn another language (unless they want to) or adopt someone elses customs, unlike in Pakistan where they try to "Indianise" people.
Not that Im aware of, every ethnicity has their own culture and history that they embrace, nobody is forced to learn another language (unless they want to) or adopt someone elses customs, unlike in Pakistan where they try to "Indianise" people.
UK is ally of America and British boots are on Afghanistan soil. Are you ready to discard citizenship of UK in protest and return back to permanently settle in your native country?. British are responsible for Gandamak and Durand treaties , and gave birth to Pakistan, the country which you hate. Why you are saluting to Union Jack and serving UK? are you a Shah Shuja? a Gul Khan?
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The Army thinks PTM, instead of focusing on resolving the problems, was increasing its demands and there were elements of “uncertainty and unpredictability” in its approach. “PTM has drifted away from its original demands,” the military official regretted.
I agree. Either fame has gotten into their heads and they are cooking Shaikh Chali's pulao or their strings are being pulled by foreign countries through ANP elements.
Ethnic composition of Pakistan army ; percentage of Pashtuns in it
It is often claimed that Pashtuns are over-represented in Pakistan army, that they are around 40% of the army. Others say they are 21% or 25%. The fact of the matter is Pashtuns are neither over-represented in Pakistan army nor under-represented. In 2007 , ISPR (the Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) Directorate, the official mouthpiece of the Army) released "information brief" in which they gave the information about ethnic composition of Pakistan army. According to it Pashtuns constituted 13.65% of the Army in 2001. The representation was increased and in 2007 they were 14.18 % of the army and they were planning to increase it up to 14.5% by 2011. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KZg7xdvvjAE/WUWCrDZl43I/AAAAAAAAFJk/zNrV92cKfewnl0LIHpMC0IZjEkERg6vnwCLcBGAs/s1600/1.jpg
Full "Information Brief" of ISPR can be read here ; https://www.slideshare.net/trainedstriker/information-brief-by-ispr-xeric?
Read also the DAWN news report about it https://www.dawn.com/news/266159/punjab-s-dominance-in-army-being-reduced-ispr
You need to add FC, which is almost all Pashtun, to get a higher pecentage. FC has in the last 10 years become basically an adjunct of the Army, they have Tanks, Special Forces, Air Assualt Elements, Artillery as well as a small Air Corps.
Also provincial numbers don't necessarily add up to % of ethicity. Except for a few units, the Army does not record ethnic affliation, they record "District".
And Rangers, a paramilitary force for eastern border, is almost all Punjabi.
i have already seen these ISPR reports but this is a common perception in pakistan though that we are like 40% of the army, i wonder where it comes from. Even asfandyar bettani used the 40% thing in a tweet before. meanwhile most pashtuns i come across say the opposite, that we are very underrepresented. the actual numbers suggest that its relative to our population.
What about army officers or generals etc? is there any information available about that
Its very hard to determine the ethnicity of three-star lieutenant generals, no details about their background/domicile are available on web.
The madness of "Pashto purification"
There are plenty of pages on facebook which have dedicated themselves to the project of Pashto purification. Last year i came across one of such page, and the most recent post was about Pashto word for Shark. The admin was saying that the pure Pashto word for Shark is Mano. For some reason Mano sounded very Pashto-ish to me but i reflected why Pashto has a word for Shark in the first place?. We dont live on sea coasts and 99.99 % of our ancestors never visited sea coasts in their life times. I googled the word Mano and turned out it is Hawaiian word for Shark. If Mano of Hawaiian is Ok then why not Shark of English? if Kaltur of German is Ok then why not Culture of English?. These purist weirdos are not making much sense.
I have come across different types of extremists. For example a guy from Mardan had issues with soft dialect of Pashto. He was of opinion that all Pashtuns should use hard dialect modification of loanwords as they are "Pashtun-ish". He argued that persians also use "Shaista" so "Khaista" modification of his dialect should be used as its not used by Persians, only by Pashtuns. He was saying that Soft dialect of Pashto gives impression that Pashto is farsified.
On this subreddit i came across a guy who was having sleepless nights over presence of Arabic loanword "Awal" (first) in Pashto. And he put it in the same catagory as "Pehla" of Hindi which is not part of Pashto language. Awal or Awalanaey is part of Pashto language and you will see its usage in Pashto literature. We say "awal zal" or "awalanaey sarray" , "awlanai jinakai" etc... we never say "pehla zal" or "pehla sarray" or "pehla jinakai". That guy said that for great cause of Pashto purification , either speak pure Pashto or pure Arabic, there is no place for Arabic words like awal. I asked him what is the Pashto word for Shark?. The question offended him and he accused me of trolling.
There is another point to consider which these purists have not taken into consideration. If i force myself to start saying Mano instead of Shark then its no longer me expressing myself naturally. And the ones around me will not understand what the fuck is Mano. If i say Shark, they will know what exactly i am talking about. Thats the whole purpose of language, communication. I speak a Marwat dialect of Pashto and we say "krrachay" for kid while most of the Pashtuns say "mashoom". May be there are also other regions in Af-Pak where unique words like krrachay are used used for kid. Information like that should be collected , for example how many unique pashto words for kid are in existence besides mashoom , warukay and krachay. Has any one bothered to find out what wanechis use for kid in their tarino dialect?. That should be done instead of inventing new words out of thin air in the name of Pashto purification. Enough with this unrealistic, impractical and unnatural bs
