GIBSEA • |
The quality of the world cup has really fallen down recently
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Apo_PBUH • |
Wtf is this comment? You’re replying to a joke comment about some soldiers playing a casual game in Syria. Take your rant to /r/Football please
dinarvand88 • |
Sorry, I forgot this was the SCW thread because I was on another thread too. My bad. Different context here but the joke was harder to tell over a keyboard.
PerishingSpinnyChair • |
It happens.
Ollieca616 UK • |
I bet they're gutted England are out
DDE93 Russia • |
We are. Some Croats were not terribly graceful in victory.
dinarvand88 • |
If you're a Croatian player and members of your family or some friends you know were killed by Serbs/Serbian militias, and you're aware that majority of Russians were usually pro-Serbia, would you be happy about it and be pro-Russia? I am not Croatian (or Albanian or Ukrainian or Bosnian). But I can easily see why a Croatian player and coach might not have nice things to say about Russia. Yes, politics should stay out of sports. I am tired of Iranian soccer players and their team being judged by their government that they didn't choose. But I wouldn't blame the average Syrian for saying negative things about Iran if the Syrian team was playing a World Cup in Iran and Iranian fans were there. It's expected. Players are human. I don't expect Russian players to say nice things about Ukraine either.
PlatonSerafimovich • |
He has apologized twice already, for saying crap, otherwise whatever happy or unhappy he was or is he could get trampled a bit:
/r/russia/comments/8y5562/i_made_a_mistake_i_want_to_apologize_one_more/
Mistogun7 Russia • |
World cup fiever
Geopolanalyst Syria • |
Honestly think Russia after this war is won is going to have a lot of good will capital in Syria for generations to come. They seem to genuinely be liked and seen as having played a positive role across vastly different swaths and sectors of society. Like the single party most seen as an honest broker across cross-section of the population. Even if you're in insurgent areas that are recaptured, they facilitate the flow of aid, help prevent anarchy like terrorist infiltration to looting and petty crime with the military police, and are working hand in glove with the government as an ally but also as a foreign actor with a different perspective, helping to try to get the government to give them peace with honor.
I don't believe Syria's had an ally that's more closely worked with the average people on the ground and their government since its inception as a modern state. Every other foreign force has sought to just take over, destabilize, or in some other way undermine their country rather than helping build it back up.
koerdinator • |
I don't think the people that were being cluster bombed hold the same opinion as you do.
Geopolanalyst Syria • |
I'm sure they don't but they also don't make up a majority of the Syrian population.
dinarvand88 • |
The majority of the population has either fled the country or been internally displaced. That should be factored in. The ones who would be most against the Syrian government or Russian government have probably already fled. There's a sampling bias in that case.
dinarvand88 • |
Another thing to consider: Palestinians in the West Bank often play football with the Israeli soldiers. Does this mean they like the Israeli soldiers or the reason why the Israeli soldiers are there?
TJFortyFour Hizbollah • |
i agree i like the way Russia is handling things like this. Its nice when the people generally welcome you there even if your a foreigner
MoonMan75 • |
This guarantees one generation of stability and goodwill among the pro-govt population that didn't flee the nation. Nothing can be predicted after that. And nothing can be assumed for the millions who fled.
ConservativeShia Islamist • |
It becomes increasingly clear a large part of the revolutionary motivation in the region were US tax dollars. Well, good for them I suppose! Good thing also the government saw this and left the south more or less alone.
GIBSEA • |
The quality of the world cup has really fallen down recently
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Apo_PBUH • |
Wtf is this comment? You’re replying to a joke comment about some soldiers playing a casual game in Syria. Take your rant to /r/Football please
dinarvand88 • |
Sorry, I forgot this was the SCW thread because I was on another thread too. My bad. Different context here but the joke was harder to tell over a keyboard.
PerishingSpinnyChair • |
It happens.
Ollieca616 UK • |
I bet they're gutted England are out
DDE93 Russia • |
We are. Some Croats were not terribly graceful in victory.
dinarvand88 • |
If you're a Croatian player and members of your family or some friends you know were killed by Serbs/Serbian militias, and you're aware that majority of Russians were usually pro-Serbia, would you be happy about it and be pro-Russia? I am not Croatian (or Albanian or Ukrainian or Bosnian). But I can easily see why a Croatian player and coach might not have nice things to say about Russia. Yes, politics should stay out of sports. I am tired of Iranian soccer players and their team being judged by their government that they didn't choose. But I wouldn't blame the average Syrian for saying negative things about Iran if the Syrian team was playing a World Cup in Iran and Iranian fans were there. It's expected. Players are human. I don't expect Russian players to say nice things about Ukraine either.
PlatonSerafimovich • |
He has apologized twice already, for saying crap, otherwise whatever happy or unhappy he was or is he could get trampled a bit:
/r/russia/comments/8y5562/i_made_a_mistake_i_want_to_apologize_one_more/
Mistogun7 Russia • |
World cup fiever
Geopolanalyst Syria • |
Honestly think Russia after this war is won is going to have a lot of good will capital in Syria for generations to come. They seem to genuinely be liked and seen as having played a positive role across vastly different swaths and sectors of society. Like the single party most seen as an honest broker across cross-section of the population. Even if you're in insurgent areas that are recaptured, they facilitate the flow of aid, help prevent anarchy like terrorist infiltration to looting and petty crime with the military police, and are working hand in glove with the government as an ally but also as a foreign actor with a different perspective, helping to try to get the government to give them peace with honor.
I don't believe Syria's had an ally that's more closely worked with the average people on the ground and their government since its inception as a modern state. Every other foreign force has sought to just take over, destabilize, or in some other way undermine their country rather than helping build it back up.
koerdinator • |
I don't think the people that were being cluster bombed hold the same opinion as you do.
Geopolanalyst Syria • |
I'm sure they don't but they also don't make up a majority of the Syrian population.
dinarvand88 • |
The majority of the population has either fled the country or been internally displaced. That should be factored in. The ones who would be most against the Syrian government or Russian government have probably already fled. There's a sampling bias in that case.
dinarvand88 • |
Another thing to consider: Palestinians in the West Bank often play football with the Israeli soldiers. Does this mean they like the Israeli soldiers or the reason why the Israeli soldiers are there?
TJFortyFour Hizbollah • |
i agree i like the way Russia is handling things like this. Its nice when the people generally welcome you there even if your a foreigner
MoonMan75 • |
This guarantees one generation of stability and goodwill among the pro-govt population that didn't flee the nation. Nothing can be predicted after that. And nothing can be assumed for the millions who fled.
ConservativeShia Islamist • |
It becomes increasingly clear a large part of the revolutionary motivation in the region were US tax dollars. Well, good for them I suppose! Good thing also the government saw this and left the south more or less alone.
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The quality of the world cup has really fallen down recently
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Wtf is this comment? You’re replying to a joke comment about some soldiers playing a casual game in Syria. Take your rant to /r/Football please
Sorry, I forgot this was the SCW thread because I was on another thread too. My bad. Different context here but the joke was harder to tell over a keyboard.
It happens.
I bet they're gutted England are out
We are. Some Croats were not terribly graceful in victory.
If you're a Croatian player and members of your family or some friends you know were killed by Serbs/Serbian militias, and you're aware that majority of Russians were usually pro-Serbia, would you be happy about it and be pro-Russia? I am not Croatian (or Albanian or Ukrainian or Bosnian). But I can easily see why a Croatian player and coach might not have nice things to say about Russia. Yes, politics should stay out of sports. I am tired of Iranian soccer players and their team being judged by their government that they didn't choose. But I wouldn't blame the average Syrian for saying negative things about Iran if the Syrian team was playing a World Cup in Iran and Iranian fans were there. It's expected. Players are human. I don't expect Russian players to say nice things about Ukraine either.
He has apologized twice already, for saying crap, otherwise whatever happy or unhappy he was or is he could get trampled a bit:
/r/russia/comments/8y5562/i_made_a_mistake_i_want_to_apologize_one_more/
World cup fiever
Honestly think Russia after this war is won is going to have a lot of good will capital in Syria for generations to come. They seem to genuinely be liked and seen as having played a positive role across vastly different swaths and sectors of society. Like the single party most seen as an honest broker across cross-section of the population. Even if you're in insurgent areas that are recaptured, they facilitate the flow of aid, help prevent anarchy like terrorist infiltration to looting and petty crime with the military police, and are working hand in glove with the government as an ally but also as a foreign actor with a different perspective, helping to try to get the government to give them peace with honor.
I don't believe Syria's had an ally that's more closely worked with the average people on the ground and their government since its inception as a modern state. Every other foreign force has sought to just take over, destabilize, or in some other way undermine their country rather than helping build it back up.
I don't think the people that were being cluster bombed hold the same opinion as you do.
I'm sure they don't but they also don't make up a majority of the Syrian population.
The majority of the population has either fled the country or been internally displaced. That should be factored in. The ones who would be most against the Syrian government or Russian government have probably already fled. There's a sampling bias in that case.
Another thing to consider: Palestinians in the West Bank often play football with the Israeli soldiers. Does this mean they like the Israeli soldiers or the reason why the Israeli soldiers are there?
i agree i like the way Russia is handling things like this. Its nice when the people generally welcome you there even if your a foreigner
This guarantees one generation of stability and goodwill among the pro-govt population that didn't flee the nation. Nothing can be predicted after that. And nothing can be assumed for the millions who fled.
It becomes increasingly clear a large part of the revolutionary motivation in the region were US tax dollars. Well, good for them I suppose! Good thing also the government saw this and left the south more or less alone.