Maybe don't just rely on foreigners when local people are actually fully concerned about your actual wellbeing. How do you suppose we can help if you keep dodging any help that aren't done by anyone outside this godfosaken country? And you wonder why we are being suspicious?
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Replying to @jennesans @rizzydraws
It's always safer being skeptical and wary of those who offer help when theyre in a country of an anti-LGBT popular opinion. It's just understandable when you're living in fear.
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right. because foreigners can immediately jump to help like medical assistants, advocations, getting him into safe-houses, etc. Wow, why it never crosses my mind!!
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obviously people from the west are going to be more tolerant than the majority of the people in a country like that. take it from someone who has lived in a largely anti-LGBT country, it's better safe than sorry. strangers from the West > strangers from an intolerant country
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You are missing my point. Well done. Give yourself a pat on your back. And as for someone who has lived in largely anti-LGBT country, surprise!! I am living in one too!! I know damn well here in Indonesia, support groups for LGBTQ+ do exist and they are good in doing their job.
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Except all I'm saying is that it's good to be wary of strangers for your safety, not specifically LGBT organizations but literally random people. When you're living in immense fear and paranoia you want to trust people who have a higher chance of tolerating you.
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and those are local LGBTQ+ organizations not one of those who will tolerate and helpful to the case? They did reach out, you know.
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sighhh youre clearly missing my point over and over again, the reason they sought help from the West rather than their own country is because they knew people in the West have a higher chance of being tolerant. That's that, it's understandable fear.
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You are missing my points. I am saying, when the accidents had happened (assault, attempted suicide, etc), local LGBTQ+ orgazations have higher chance in actually immediately helping the victims; not well-wiser tolerant foreigners. Esp. in real life or death situations.
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I'm not trying to say it's a bad idea to reach out to LGBTQ organizations. I'm merely sympathizing with their hesitancy in reaching out as it's understandable. When you think the world you live in is against you, you're gonna be extremely protective of yourself and who you let in
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And you think it's logical for parents who can't speak English well, who he claimed had not approved of him, to first reach his friends who can't speak Indonesian.. and from where? His cellphone? His discord? Why not contact his local friends first?
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Replying to @OmYonatan @LEMONedPearl and
Explaining why people do certain things is not explaining logic, it's explaining their feelings that made it IN THE MOMENT seem logical to them. When you're scared of your own people you look elsewhere. I'm not saying their actions was right but I see why they made them.
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