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    el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

    In conversations with many $TSLA bulls, some of whom seem to be polite, thoughtful folks, a recurrent theme seems to arise: $TSLA = “pioneer” and without them there would be no EV market development. I’d like to explore the reasons I think this is not the case. (thread)

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      2. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

        Innovation is a process and it tends to move in sudden jumps when pieces fall into place. It’s vanishingly rare that a thing is developed just once and in one place. Parallel development and multiple discovery is the norm.

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      3. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

        this is a wonderful book on the topic:https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Got-Now-Innovations/dp/1594633932 …

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      4. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

        When you develop glass, germ theory rapidly and inevitably follows. Glass leads to clear glass which leads to lenses which lead to microscopes which lead people to peer at a drop of water and voila, germ theory. It happens all over the world at the same time.

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      5. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

        EVs are no different. Tesla did not invent them. They’ve been around since the early 1800’s. they have just never been practical for most automotive applications. It’s still not clear they are. They are expensive and have limited range and long charge times.

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      6. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

        But they ARE getting better. TSLA was early, but innovation is not driven by them. They took the tech of others (Panasonic, NVDA) and launched early. they were OK launching a beta product. The rest of the industry was not. They wanted 1.0 to meet levels of safety and function

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      7. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

        Going first does not make you the “innovator”. It may mean you were reckless. This tech was available to all and everyone could see the writing on the wall from regulations demanding a move to EV (itself a terrible way to pick winners as oppose to using competition and merit).

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      8. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

        “a product so good we have to force you to build and buy them” is not much of a slogan. But perhaps now EV’s will get competitive. Perhaps not. But the idea that they would not have come into the mass market (assuming they do) sans tesla is pretty far fetched.

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      9. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

        This tech has been being developed all over the world by hundreds of companies. The holy grails of energy density as high as gasoline and refills as rapid as a gas station remain elusive. I suspect those will be needed for a real mass market in the absence of regulator diktat.

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      10. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

        Lots of folks are working on it. Some will crack it. This is how innovation works. But it was not tesla that made this happen. They are just a bit player that went early into a space whose tech was not really baked yet.

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      11. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 18h18 hours ago

        When historians look back on the EV market, $TSLA will look like Davenport: a small niche product not suited for a mass market nor truly mass produced that was an early stab at “getting it right” that missed. But EV’s will keep going.

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      12. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 17h17 hours ago

        Saying “tesla will fail” says nothing about EV’s as a whole. Keep that in mind.

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      13. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 17h17 hours ago

        Being skeptical of $TSLA is not being “anti-EV” not anti gaia or anti progress or humanity. It’s just a simple statement about one company’s ability to make good products at a profit. Let’s just make sure we keep that context in mind. It’s an important one.

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      14. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 17h17 hours ago

        if one continually equates $TSLA with the EV market as a whole or a love of the environment, that misses the key nuances of the discussion and turns it into a religious debate, not a discussion of the strengths and flaws of a specific company.

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      2. Mark B. Spiegel‏ @markbspiegel 18h18 hours ago
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        Let me stop you right there: "pioneers" get arrows in their backs. Who the f- (from an investing standpoint) CARES if $TSLA was the FIRST company to incinerate billions on EVs if now they ALL will, with better cars & deeper pockets (with the added bonus that Musk is a fraudster)?

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      3. el gato malo‏ @boriquagato 17h17 hours ago
        Replying to @markbspiegel

        oh, i absolutely agree, but there seems to be a current in the bull community that without tesla there would never be EV's and that we need them to succeed or the future is doomed. i have written about how going first is a huge disadvantage in the past.

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      4. Dan Stringer, Portapotty Availability Analyst‏ @Danstringer74 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @boriquagato @markbspiegel

        There are a lot of parallels between Netscape and Tesla. Tesla has been more reckless with its way of doing business though.

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      5. Machine Planet‏ @Paul91701736 2h2 hours ago
        Replying to @Danstringer74 @boriquagato @markbspiegel

        If you haven't already seen it, I highly recommend this HBR piece:https://hbr.org/2018/04/to-understand-the-future-of-tesla-look-to-the-history-of-gm …

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      2. Kawasook‏ @kawasook 11h11 hours ago
        Replying to @boriquagato

        https://electrek.co/2018/06/03/tesla-energy-storage-projects-puerto-rico-elon-musk/amp/ … I am literally in Puerto Rico talking with solar contractors. I know what is moving when it comes to energy storage. What brands, the projects ..... this is total Bullshit. It’s this kind of #Tesla pump that infuriates me. $TSLA #proveIt

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      3. Xenomorpher Beeblebrox‏ @xenomorpher1 2h2 hours ago
        Replying to @kawasook @boriquagato

        Securities fraud or merchant puffery? Dangerous line Tesla treads.

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      2. KillingMyCareer‏ @MelaynaLokosky 2h2 hours ago
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        In Silicon Valley innovation is used as a manipulation to evade the law in companies like #Acclarent, #Theranos, #Uber and $TSLA. #TheSociopathicBusinessModel

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      3. Restart‏ @50to15 1h1 hour ago
        Replying to @MelaynaLokosky @boriquagato

        Sharp!

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