So much of this new video focused on the post linked below and the short video within. And to be fair, no this is not a nuanced, point by point take down of Koth's video. It doesn't have to be. The point in it still stands.https://twitter.com/BristleThis/status/1006653938794467328?s=19 …
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But wait, what if, WHAT IF, someone did take the time to chronicle the video and also had the "professionalism" to link to the original video!? Well congratulations Ragehound, yes there is a Santa Claus. (Santa White Claus?)https://twitter.com/WhiteClawE/status/1002346960412708865?s=19 …
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Now most of Ragehound's video claims Koth was taken out of context with that shorter vid posted in the tweet... which okay, you know what, yes, he is being taken out of context Because Koth's video makes his argument look even worse.
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Kothorix spends his entire video bashing the left and then talks about a future furry utopia where the Left doesn't exist. No mention of the right, which Koth claims doesn't exist. But that just makes him an enabler.
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Ignoring a problem, especially when it's right in front of you, makes you complicit. Anyway this video makes all the same problematic points as Koth's. "Keyboard warriors" have no power because it's all online.
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This of course belies the entire point of THIS video (by Ragehound) because the thing they're upset about...*drumroll*...happened online! Again double standards. But there's one point that keeps coming up over and over again.
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"See what Koth MEANT was..." Okay his video is 8:51 long. And it's pretty much just him speaking. If he can't clarify what he's talking about in that time frame...maybe he's not a very good YouTuber? But also this claim isn't true
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Koth's entire video makes it clear who he is defending and who he is attacking. The images he's talking over aren't random. It's not like he made a typo on a tweet and "Whoops worded that badly. Not what meant. My bad guys."
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He edited a nearly nine minute video on this topic and repeated his stance several times. I think he knew what he was saying. And as for Ragehound's video? Well it acknowledges Nazis exist, but claims they aren't a problem.
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So alright let's just do this. Ragehound's video: Start: "We're better than this." All because of a tweet. Yes folks it's a 16 minute video about a tweet. Strap in. First 20 sec: "We've tried, we've really tried!" So we're going for the emotional appeal right out of the gate.
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0:25 "... Kothorix was the target of a tweet..." A TARGET folks. Of a TWEET! 0:40 Talks about how the tweet samples in NeoNazis but fails to address the point even made my the tweet. 0:55 Koth and I don't agree on a lot. I'm totally not his sock puppet.
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1:08 Factual and accurate comes up here and is repeated a lot for something that is an opinion piece. 1:25 The tweet didn't link to the original video which is "unprofessional" because we all expect cited sources for a shitpost on Twitter.
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1:50 This starts the "What he MEANT was" line with "When Koth talks about Nazis, I understand from speaking to him...." Well if he's so great in person maybe he should have messaged us all individually instead if making a YouTube video, eh?
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2:20 We're back to the "Nazis online have no power," as though the internet and social media aren't powerful tools and they've never used these tools to organize real life attacks on people, places, etc.
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2:40 "The NeoNazi or White Nationalist movement does not accept furries..." Yeah that doesn't mean some furries don't accept them. 2:50 actually mentions Foxler trying to join, like, how do you miss the problem there? It's not that the Nazis said no. It's that he tried to join.
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3:00 Don't pick on Koth. Nazis have no power. 3:25 We get into some crazy cognitive dissonance here. Yes Nazis exist but not EVERYONE is a Nazi so it's all okay (even though tge POTUS supposedly has some connections to them - 4:05).pic.twitter.com/aHeHkLhmhk
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4:07 "But on the whole they don't have a lot of power." Besides the President of the fucking United States! Whatever, whatever, let's keep going. 4:30 frames "conservative furries" as discriminated minority. Conservative here being code for Nazis ICYMI.
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4:40 People talk about his pedo video but you have to watch ALL of his videos apparently before you can even think about criticizing him. 5:05 "He does have sources." Well they weren't in his Message To All Furries vid. And what sources would he have for his OPINION?
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Big section here of just "I'm mad you guys were mean to my friend." 6:45 YouTubers deserve automatic respect? Makes me wonder how they'd react if I did this breakdown as my own video instead of a tweet. 7:50 "Not Twitter," for critiques of Koth. Weirdly specific about that.
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8:10 "People watching this aren't going to want to do that." Yeah, because it's time consuming and we have lives. It's not about the "veil" or the "avatar." It's because we have lives outside of talking to Nazi apologists.
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9:20 on is just "I hate
@DogpatchPress" so, y'know, enjoy that "shot in the dark" by someone who was just preaching tolerance and understanding. And scene.Show this thread
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