<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; URL=https://mobile.twitter.com/i/nojs_router?path=%2Felonmusk%2Fstatus%2F963095860060934144"> (cache)Elon Musk on Twitter: "Under consideration. We’ve already stretched the upper stage once. Easiest part of the rocket to change. Fairing 2, flying soon, also has a slightly larger diameter. Could make fairing much longer if need be & will if BFR takes longer than expected.… https://t.co/m9mJunwoZY"

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    1. Doug Ellison‏ @doug_ellison Feb 2

      I’ve got to do a deep dive into the launch requirements of mission designs beyond LEO and compare F9 Arlas V 401, 551, FHeavy and FHeavy Expendable. I think a lot of people will be VERY surprised. Specific Impulse on the upper stage is everything.

      13 replies 11 retweets 135 likes
    2. David S. F. Portree‏ @dsfpspacefl1ght Feb 2
      Replying to @doug_ellison

      I keep hearing the FH isn't that great when it comes to tossing things beyond LEO, and at a higher cost than competitors.

      3 replies 4 retweets 35 likes
    3. Doug Ellison‏ @doug_ellison Feb 2
      Replying to @dsfpspacefl1ght

      Basically a recovered FHeavy is out performed by the high end Atlas Vs, and an expendable FHeavy is probably more expensive than those Atlas Vs. the performance numbers are at https://elvperf.ksc.nasa.gov/pages/Query.aspx …

      5 replies 5 retweets 52 likes
    4. Elon Musk‏Verified account @elonmusk 22h22 hours ago
      Replying to @doug_ellison @dsfpspacefl1ght

      The performance numbers in this database are not accurate. In process of being fixed. Even if they were, a fully expendable Falcon Heavy, which far exceeds the performance of a Delta IV Heavy, is $150M, compared to over $400M for Delta IV Heavy.

      40 replies 199 retweets 1,346 likes
    5. Scott Manley‏ @DJSnM 21h21 hours ago
      Replying to @elonmusk @doug_ellison @dsfpspacefl1ght

      One thing a lot of people are curious of is the FH performance with an expendable center core since SpaceX sales page shows only full recovery, or full expendable numbers.

      4 replies 5 retweets 209 likes
    6. Doug Ellison‏ @doug_ellison 21h21 hours ago
      Replying to @DJSnM @elonmusk @dsfpspacefl1ght

      Yup - I got a feeling that would be a huge increase in performance - maybe getting back half the performance cost of recovery. Outer cores RTLS or Outer Cores to Barge would be interesting as well.

      1 reply 1 retweet 39 likes
    7. Scott Manley‏ @DJSnM 21h21 hours ago
      Replying to @doug_ellison @elonmusk @dsfpspacefl1ght

      For full recovery to make sense over single stick expendable needs each booster to be reused multiple times. I’m also curious as to whether SpaceX would consider stretching Stage 2 if there was a market that made sense.

      6 replies 14 retweets 355 likes
      Elon Musk‏Verified account @elonmusk 21h21 hours ago
      Replying to @DJSnM @doug_ellison @dsfpspacefl1ght

      Under consideration. We’ve already stretched the upper stage once. Easiest part of the rocket to change. Fairing 2, flying soon, also has a slightly larger diameter. Could make fairing much longer if need be & will if BFR takes longer than expected.

      9:02 AM - 12 Feb 2018
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        2. Martin Hill‏ @MartHill2112 21h21 hours ago
          Replying to @elonmusk @DJSnM and

          Was it ever a consideration to put MVac engines on the centre core and only light it when you're super high, added reinforcement and MOAR BOOSTERS on the side, like 6 f9 cores surrounding an orbiter core?

          3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. SpaceX's BFR - is next!‏ @BigFckingRocket 21h21 hours ago
          Replying to @MartHill2112 @elonmusk and

          Won't happen, as the companies focus after F9 B5 and Dragon is BFR. Fully reusable it will be much cheaper anyway.

          1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
        4. BigF****nCamera‏ @falconCamera 21h21 hours ago
          Replying to @BigFckingRocket @MartHill2112 and

          Yeah well, /you/ would say that On orbit refuelling gonna be cool as @dog_rates too, easier to reuse a spacetug if it never has to deorbit, land and launch between pushing satellites around

          3 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
        5. SpaceX's BFR - is next!‏ @BigFckingRocket 21h21 hours ago
          Replying to @falconCamera @MartHill2112 and

          Speaking of @dog_rates, why has nobody asked Elon the most important question yet: will doggos be allowed in the Mars colony?

          2 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
        6. BigF****nCamera‏ @falconCamera 21h21 hours ago
          Replying to @BigFckingRocket @MartHill2112 and

          It's a pupsibility

          1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
        7. SpaceX's BFR - is next!‏ @BigFckingRocket 20h20 hours ago
          Replying to @falconCamera @MartHill2112 and

          People would be pupset if they couldn't take their dogs.

          1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
        8. BigF****nCamera‏ @falconCamera 20h20 hours ago
          Replying to @BigFckingRocket @MartHill2112 and

          I know, it would be laika really hard decision between going to mars and staying with your doggo

          1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
        9. Kelsi Davis‏ @randomblamekd 13h13 hours ago
          Replying to @falconCamera @BigFckingRocket and

          I'm sure dogs will be permitted - as livestock 🍴

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Andrew HN‏ @RainHNg 20h20 hours ago
          Replying to @elonmusk @DJSnM and

          Is there a limit of how tall the rocket can be (aerodynamic stability) ?

          2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. Scott Manley‏ @DJSnM 20h20 hours ago
          Replying to @RainHNg @elonmusk and

          Von Braun had a rule of thumb that a 10:1 height:diameter ratio should not be exceeded for vehicle strength and wind loading. Falcon 9 exceeds this. Von Braun of course worked in a different era of materials and digital control tech.

          2 replies 3 retweets 82 likes
        4. SpaceCrazedOptimist‏ @CynicSpace 15h15 hours ago
          Replying to @DJSnM @RainHNg and

          Would have though spacex already have enough problems with wind shear. For example FH almost lost the window because of wind.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2. Ayrton‏ @Ayrtonkee 21h21 hours ago
          Replying to @elonmusk @DJSnM and

          Omg Scott

          1 reply 0 retweets 45 likes
        3. ObiWanPEZ‏ @ObiWanPez 21h21 hours ago
          Replying to @Ayrtonkee @elonmusk and

          That's one benefit to being high-profile.

          1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
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        2. M Shadab‏ @ImShaadab 19h19 hours ago
          Replying to @elonmusk @DJSnM and

          will this work? :Ppic.twitter.com/pOTzmCWWgs

          2 replies 0 retweets 20 likes
        3. Kacey Green‏ @GCustom 19h19 hours ago
          Replying to @ImShaadab @elonmusk and

          BFR Heavy?

          1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
        4. M Shadab‏ @ImShaadab 19h19 hours ago
          Replying to @GCustom @elonmusk and

          yup 😂

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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        2. Pieter De Wit‏ @pieterdewit_nz 21h21 hours ago
          Replying to @elonmusk @DJSnM and

          Does girth really matter for payloads ? And yes, I’m serious

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Tovera‏ @ToveraVashini 21h21 hours ago
          Replying to @pieterdewit_nz @elonmusk and

          Girth expands volume much faster than length.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Pieter De Wit‏ @pieterdewit_nz 16h16 hours ago
          Replying to @ToveraVashini @elonmusk and

          But it also adds pressure where as length doesn’t. Surely there is a design “limit” for girth on Payloads?

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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