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    JJ Hermes‏ @jotajotahermes Feb 10

    Early this morning we measured the brightness changes of a car tumbling in space! Credit to Erik Dennihy (@UNC), we can report that Tesla Roadster (Starman, 2018-017A) is rotating with a period of 4.7589 +/- 0.0060 minutes.pic.twitter.com/LA4YzdvjK9

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      1. JJ Hermes‏ @jotajotahermes Feb 10

        You can see the car blinking in our time-lapse from the 4.1-m SOAR telescope in Chile, taken in twilight on 2018-02-10. The car is already more than 1 million km away, tens of thousands of times fainter than can be seen with the unaided eye.pic.twitter.com/WPHTPjps57

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      2. Keaton Bell‏ @astrokeat Feb 12
        Replying to @jotajotahermes @UNC

        Considering the shape, I might think that the light curve is dominated by the harmonic, and the rotation period is 9.518 +/- 0.012 minutes? May depend on rotation axis and undercoating.

        2 replies 3 retweets 17 likes
      3. David Wilson‏ @astrodave2 Feb 12
        Replying to @astrokeat @jotajotahermes @UNC

        Yes, I reckon the peaks are the sides of the rocket 2nd stage, so two per rotation.

        1 reply 4 retweets 12 likes
      4. Natalie Batalha‏ @nbatalha 22h22 hours ago
        Replying to @astrodave2 @astrokeat and

        Is the car still attached to something? I thought it was detached from the 2nd stage bus. no?

        1 reply 3 retweets 5 likes
      5. Asteroid Initiatives‏ @AsteroidEnergy 21h21 hours ago
        Replying to @nbatalha @astrodave2 and

        SpaceX has confirmed that it's still attached to the second stage. Here is the car + stage adapter (plus mounts for the cameras).pic.twitter.com/DNEV5rDNYX

        1 reply 7 retweets 49 likes
      6. JJ Hermes‏ @jotajotahermes 20h20 hours ago
        Replying to @AsteroidEnergy @nbatalha and

        It's very hard to get a fixed reference point over a full cycle on their early videos, but the Earth comes into view on a period closer to 4.75 min than 9.5 min, for what it's worth:https://youtu.be/aBr2kKAHN6M?t=2h57m11s …

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      7. David Wilson‏ @astrodave2 20h20 hours ago
        Replying to @jotajotahermes @AsteroidEnergy and

        It's done a burn since then, and maybe dumped RCS propellant, so it could have changed. Clear though from that that it (at least was) rotating on the 2nd stage long axis.

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      8. Keaton Bell‏ @astrokeat 20h20 hours ago
        Replying to @astrodave2 @jotajotahermes and

        Yep, third burn might have changed this. I wonder if @SpaceX even knows the rotation period.

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      9. JJ Hermes‏ @jotajotahermes 16h16 hours ago
        Replying to @astrokeat @astrodave2 and

        Folding things on 9.518 min doesn't look particularly asymmetric, although there are only 3 points per bin. Any asteroid folks care to comment? cc: @erinleeryan @rszabo75pic.twitter.com/JN6DOD5K8C

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      2. Geert Barentsen‏ @GeertHub Feb 10
        Replying to @jotajotahermes @UNC

        I'd quite like to know if asteroid shape inference algorithms can retrieve a car! /cc @ChedyRaissi

        4 replies 3 retweets 40 likes
      3. JJ Hermes‏ @jotajotahermes Feb 11
        Replying to @GeertHub @UNC @ChedyRaissi

        Here is the reduced light curve for anyone who'd like to try to fit it: http://k2wd.org/share/roadster.dat …

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      2. Terry Bridges‏ @terry_tjb Feb 10
        Replying to @jotajotahermes @UNC

        and why do we care?

        4 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
      3. Richard Penn, Sci Fi‏ @RichardFPenn Feb 10
        Replying to @terry_tjb @jotajotahermes @UNC

        Observing something we know the shape of, calibrates the methods we use to measure unknown objects. And it's fun.

        4 replies 16 retweets 330 likes
      4. Nick Barnes‏ @nickbarnes Feb 11
        Replying to @RichardFPenn @terry_tjb and

        *Do* we know the shape of it? AIUI it's not just a roadster, there's the upper stage, there's the payload mount, there's whatever framework the cameras are on. Genuinely curious.

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      5. James Garcia Alver‏ @JayAlver 20h20 hours ago
        Replying to @nickbarnes @RichardFPenn and

        Yes, we know the shape of it. And if any astronomers aren’t sure they can check launch images or ask SpaceX when they analyze their data.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      6. Nick Barnes‏ @nickbarnes 20h20 hours ago
        Replying to @JayAlver @RichardFPenn and

        OK, cool. Can you link to a diagram of the whole object? (I doubt a photograph of it exists, given the circumstances of launch: when would it have been taken?)

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      7. James Garcia Alver‏ @JayAlver 20h20 hours ago
        Replying to @nickbarnes @RichardFPenn and

        A photo of the whole object probably doesn’t exist, but it could be pieced together from photos that do.

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      8. James Garcia Alver‏ @JayAlver 20h20 hours ago
        Replying to @JayAlver @nickbarnes and

        Here’s the image from the released animation. It doesn’t have dimensions, but I’m sure you could ask SpaceX if it’s for science.pic.twitter.com/aV8iqRGBtQ

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      2. luzdepaz‏ @luzdepaz Feb 11
        Replying to @jotajotahermes @planet4589 @UNC

        Anyone that doesn't see the value of measuring a know object in space, or all the other things it's silliness has inspired & will teach, is polluting this blue ball and consuming valuable oxygen! (End rant) ION: I need an astro for dummies book so I can play with these formulas!

        1 reply 3 retweets 13 likes
      3. A. Karley‏ @WellsiteGeo Feb 11
        Replying to @luzdepaz @jotajotahermes and

        Plenty of relevant formulae on Wikipedia, and sufficiently well presented. If you mean that you need a training course in celestial mechanics, that's a different thing.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. luzdepaz‏ @luzdepaz Feb 11
        Replying to @WellsiteGeo @jotajotahermes and

        I will Google "space formulae" and see what I find! Thanks for the lesson. I wish we learned this in highschool physics. I loved Math when it was used to decode and understand natural systems. Regretful that I bought into the "girls aren't good at math" stigma :( Total BS

        2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      5. Jonathan McDowell‏Verified account @planet4589 Feb 11
        Replying to @luzdepaz @WellsiteGeo and

        Lots of great women space engineers, and we sadly lost many more due to that BS. Suggest "astrodynamics" and "orbital mechanics" as good starting search terms.

        1 reply 0 retweets 29 likes
      6. luzdepaz‏ @luzdepaz Feb 11
        Replying to @planet4589 @WellsiteGeo and

        Warmed my heart and fed my brain 🕊🙏🚀

        0 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
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