You can see the car blinking in our time-lapse from the 4.1-m SOAR telescope in Chile, taken in twilight on 2018-02-10. The car is already more than 1 million km away, tens of thousands of times fainter than can be seen with the unaided eye.pic.twitter.com/WPHTPjps57
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Considering the shape, I might think that the light curve is dominated by the harmonic, and the rotation period is 9.518 +/- 0.012 minutes? May depend on rotation axis and undercoating.
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Yes, I reckon the peaks are the sides of the rocket 2nd stage, so two per rotation.
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Is the car still attached to something? I thought it was detached from the 2nd stage bus. no?
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SpaceX has confirmed that it's still attached to the second stage. Here is the car + stage adapter (plus mounts for the cameras).pic.twitter.com/DNEV5rDNYX
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It's very hard to get a fixed reference point over a full cycle on their early videos, but the Earth comes into view on a period closer to 4.75 min than 9.5 min, for what it's worth:https://youtu.be/aBr2kKAHN6M?t=2h57m11s …
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It's done a burn since then, and maybe dumped RCS propellant, so it could have changed. Clear though from that that it (at least was) rotating on the 2nd stage long axis.
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Folding things on 9.518 min doesn't look particularly asymmetric, although there are only 3 points per bin. Any asteroid folks care to comment? cc:
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I'd quite like to know if asteroid shape inference algorithms can retrieve a car! /cc
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Here is the reduced light curve for anyone who'd like to try to fit it: http://k2wd.org/share/roadster.dat …
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and why do we care?
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Observing something we know the shape of, calibrates the methods we use to measure unknown objects. And it's fun.
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*Do* we know the shape of it? AIUI it's not just a roadster, there's the upper stage, there's the payload mount, there's whatever framework the cameras are on. Genuinely curious.
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Yes, we know the shape of it. And if any astronomers aren’t sure they can check launch images or ask SpaceX when they analyze their data.
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OK, cool. Can you link to a diagram of the whole object? (I doubt a photograph of it exists, given the circumstances of launch: when would it have been taken?)
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A photo of the whole object probably doesn’t exist, but it could be pieced together from photos that do.
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Here’s the image from the released animation. It doesn’t have dimensions, but I’m sure you could ask SpaceX if it’s for science.pic.twitter.com/aV8iqRGBtQ
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Anyone that doesn't see the value of measuring a know object in space, or all the other things it's silliness has inspired & will teach, is polluting this blue ball and consuming valuable oxygen! (End rant) ION: I need an astro for dummies book so I can play with these formulas!
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Plenty of relevant formulae on Wikipedia, and sufficiently well presented. If you mean that you need a training course in celestial mechanics, that's a different thing.
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I will Google "space formulae" and see what I find! Thanks for the lesson. I wish we learned this in highschool physics. I loved Math when it was used to decode and understand natural systems. Regretful that I bought into the "girls aren't good at math" stigma :( Total BS
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Lots of great women space engineers, and we sadly lost many more due to that BS. Suggest "astrodynamics" and "orbital mechanics" as good starting search terms.
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Warmed my heart and fed my brain
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