<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; URL=https://mobile.twitter.com/i/nojs_router?path=%2Fchounamoul%2Fstatus%2F957877640278392832"> (cache)シュナムル on Twitter: "Aという意見の人と、対立するBという意見の人が話すときに、お前はバカだ俺の勝ちだ論破したぞとマウントを取ることを目標にする戦術をABどちらかが選択すると、その時点で生産的な議論って成り立たないんです。俺はそういう無駄な議論を口喧嘩と呼んでます。"

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三十代既婚。京大工から文系職。フェミニスト。趣味は語学、文学、建築史。ツイートは転載不可。

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    シュナムル‏ @chounamoul Jan 28

    Aという意見の人と、対立するBという意見の人が話すときに、お前はバカだ俺の勝ちだ論破したぞとマウントを取ることを目標にする戦術をABどちらかが選択すると、その時点で生産的な議論って成り立たないんです。俺はそういう無駄な議論を口喧嘩と呼んでます。

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      1. シュナムル‏ @chounamoul Jan 28

        口喧嘩で勝つことを目標にすると、相手の主張のうち、より正しい部分でなく、より間違っている部分に照準を合わせて攻撃して、全体の信用性を失わせるのが最適戦術になります。ネットでは幾らでも見覚えがあるでしょう。自分が相手より口喧嘩に強いと示す以外に、何も新しい知見はない営みです。

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      2. シュナムル‏ @chounamoul Jan 28

        でも、もし二人が、Aの正しい部分とBの正しい部分を集めて、二人ともが「なるほどこちらの方がより正しいな」と納得できる何らかの結論を見つけようと、お互いが意志していたら、その時には、その議論はAとBが持っている以上の何かを生み出すはずなんです。そういう議論は生産的だし、やる価値がある。

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      1. ふくし ともや‏ @futtomo114514 Jan 29
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      1. プレシェーレン‏ @presen_slovenia Jan 29
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        プレシェーレン Retweeted シュナムル

        シュナムルさんがよくやることですね。https://twitter.com/chounamoul/status/957877640278392832?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E0 …

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        シュナムル @chounamoul
        Aという意見の人と、対立するBという意見の人が話すときに、お前はバカだ俺の勝ちだ論破したぞとマウントを取ることを目標にする戦術をABどちらかが選択すると、その時点で生産的な議論って成り立たないんです。俺はそういう無駄な議論を口喧嘩と呼んでます。
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