Unsure what to think when someone lowkey brags about being so fluent but then says a phone call was a big accomplishment.
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I see! I’m sorry to keep pursuing this but I am genuinely curious - what then would you consider conversational?
I'd say I'm low conversational in Japanese cos I can exchange with people but not easily and well. I'd say someone like my husband is...
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... fluent level in English cos he can understand even technical topics and concepts in English.
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To match this to terminology, would you consider this a difference between BICS and CALP? https://sites.educ.ualberta.ca/staff/olenka.bilash/Best%20of%20Bilash/bics%20calp.html …
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Hmm I'd say proficiency/low conversational could have BICS aspects but conversational and fluency would require being able to do CALP.
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Wouldn't necessarily say if someone can handle CALP then they're fluent
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(Is this the stuff you study? Super interesting stuff.)
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(IT IS! Which is why I’m so curious! My personal definitions are a bit different, and the term fluent has many levels for me
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I guess I just have such a high idea of fluent/native vs everything else! I grew up with a native English father and a fluent (accented)...
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English mother so I've always had very high standards for what I'd consider fluent.
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