Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): I am not a teacher, i have zero patience with kids and even some teaching jobs have turned me down because I failed the personality test for teachers in Japan --- basically Im not gonna teach here. But what's left for me? |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): My Japanese level is conversational. Depending on the topic at hand, I am either fully fluent, or completely illiterate. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): I have extensive knowledge of regional variations in Japan, the transportation system, |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): Teaching here is an awful gig. Literally everyone I know has had financial trouble being a teacher |
Quoting mad99 (Reply 1): When i moved to Madrid i taught English for 6 months while taking Spanish classes. Probably the best paid option i had. |
Quoting mad99 (Reply 1): Types of flowers or my favourite film would not be questions so i developed a routine so whey they asked about a previous job i'd blast them with a memorized speech about what i did, how i did it etc etc covering everything i could think of so the questions would be few. |
Quoting mad99 (Reply 1): So if you like trains, planes, buses etc sounds like you might be a big help to tourists coming from English speaking countries, help planning how to get to places etc. |
Quoting mad99 (Reply 1): Here in MAD its not a bad option for native speakers, even loads of Americans teach here illegally. The worst part is the timetable. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2): It's a bad gig here. I've heard too many horror stories about people not getting paid. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2): It's what I would love to do (I even have a startup idea in mind) but simply putting both the startup in motion and finding a travel company in Japan that hires foreigners is a pain. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): I've been rejected by 16 companies for one of three reasons- lack of Japanese ability (or lack of JLPT N1 score) |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2): if they don't use that stupid personality test. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2): Exactly. knowledge of literature and various basic conversation pieces wont help me, and thats what they taught me even in classes I took at Sophia. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2): It's what I would love to do (I even have a startup idea in mind) but simply putting both the startup in motion and finding a travel company in Japan that hires foreigners is a pain. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2): It's a bad gig here. I've heard too many horror stories about people not getting paid. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): (or lack of JLPT N1 score) |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): Well I kinda gave up on that, because I instead chose to find work in Japan, for the sake of staying in the YouTube community I belong to. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): My interests are aviation (obviously), music, Japan-related stuff, photography and filmmaking, youtube, social media, and traveling. Any help you guys can give would be awesome. |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 3): It often is, but it doesn't have to be. The more reputable companies do a pretty good job, and I know people who are reliably and in some cases quite well paid. I know a guy at a particular large company who is a manager at their Tokyo HQ and makes around 7.5 million. |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 3): If memory serves, there are a couple of companies doing that kind of thing already. Might want to poke around Google and see about getting on with one of those. |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 3): It might also be worth looking into university employment - plenty of second-tier universities are pretty committed to seeking foreign students to boost their enrollment and revenues, and having someone who is relatable to foreign students and speaks Japanese is very attractive to their recruiters. |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 3): I have been rejected by Boeing in the past, only due to JLPT1 requirements |
Quoting mad99 (Reply 4): Or maybe you need to answer the test like they want you to |
Quoting Rara (Reply 5): Sounds like that's the key. You've got to learn Japanese. |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 6): I noticed you've conveniently left out a big detail which could aid other members in suggesting what your next move should be: what is your degree in and how does it tie with where you wanna go in life? I know what it is, but I'll let you post it. |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 6): Then it sounds you value YouTube more than your career. You can't complain about not finding a job in Japan but not wanting to move elsewhere for it. You can't have your cake and eat it too. |
Quoting Flighty (Reply 7): Unless you are independently wealthy and plan to open your own business. More fundamentally, working OR starting a business has nothing to do with what you want, it has to do with what customers will pay for. |
Quoting Flighty (Reply 7): So, become a social media or marketing worker for JL, NH, or come to the US and work for one of ours. And please note, I am being extremely generous. You need to focus on what jobs are listed and what they pay, not what you'd ideally like to do as hobbies. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): For companies I have to do the whole traditional shushoku katsudo recruitment process which I'm already out of because the 3 companies I applied for rejected me and I'm slated to have my graduation ceremony in September. Plus the shukatsu process is not for foreigners anyway. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): I instead chose to find work in Japan, for the sake of staying in the YouTube community I belong to. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): Not conveniently because in Japan very few jobs care about your degree. It's all about your uni here, not about the major. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): Note- I don't check this website as much anymore (frankly i'm bored of a-net because of the excessive politicizing of it) and it would be a lot easier if you guys emailed me. My email is in my profile. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): Eventually I wanna go to grad school so i can be posted in the Embassy. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): Well I kinda gave up on that, because I instead chose to find work in Japan, for the sake of staying in the YouTube community I belong to. And this is absolutely going awful. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): Literally everyone I know who is a teacher quits it soon and regrets it. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): I didn't mention my start up yet (still working on it) and I've looked around google quite a bit about that with nothing as a result. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): I'll see what my uni's career office says about that. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): I was rejected from their internship |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): Need money (a job) and time (not a crazy non-flexible job like teaching) and an environment not in my native language (like, not being an english teacher) to learn Japanese quicker. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): Eventually I wanna go to grad school so i can be posted in the Embassy. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): For companies I have to do the whole traditional shushoku katsudo recruitment process which I'm already out of because the 3 companies I applied for rejected me and I'm slated to have my graduation ceremony in September. Plus the shukatsu process is not for foreigners anyway. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): Need money (a job) and time (not a crazy non-flexible job like teaching) and an environment not in my native language (like, not being an english teacher) to learn Japanese quicker. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): Quoting Rara (Reply 5): Sounds like that's the key. You've got to learn Japanese. Need money (a job) and time (not a crazy non-flexible job like teaching) and an environment not in my native language (like, not being an english teacher) to learn Japanese quicker. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 6): Then it sounds you value YouTube more than your career. You can't complain about not finding a job in Japan but not wanting to move elsewhere for it. You can't have your cake and eat it too. That i guess is partially true, but I need a worthwhile career dealing with some sort of international thing in order for me to even have something to talk about on youtube. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): Luckily I've already thought that through for my startup idea and I already know where to find investors. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14): Unfortunately, these jobs just aren't there for young noobs like us, they are very rare, and they usually require some specialized degrees. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14): The real world is tough but it's yours for the taking if you apply yourself. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14): Get prepared for crap pay and being busy... put in your time and succeed in life and get a great job with great pay |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15): To quote a Tears for Fears song: Welcome to the real world. |
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17): Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15): To quote a Tears for Fears song: Welcome to the real world. I believe you mean: "Welcome to your life. There's no turning back...." |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 10): but unless your channel is raking in money |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8): Quoting Rara (Reply 5): Sounds like that's the key. You've got to learn Japanese. Need money (a job) and time (not a crazy non-flexible job like teaching) and an environment not in my native language (like, not being an english teacher) to learn Japanese quicker. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): Japan-related stuff, photography and filmmaking, youtube, social media, and traveling |
Quoting Flighty (Reply 9): Cool I have no idea what you are talking about, but many international companies operate in Japan too |
Quoting Flighty (Reply 9): And I don't mean to rain on your parade, there absolutely are opportunities in global social media and airlines, and the nexus between. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 10): Seriously? Come on man. I'm not saying move out of Japan but unless your channel is raking in money, |
Quoting casinterest (Reply 12): I am not sure why being in Japan matters for the YouTube community |
Quoting 910A (Reply 11): That 'Useless' Liberal Arts Degree Has Become Tech's Hottest Ticket; essentially you have a useless degree for the business world; perhaps coming back to the states using your creative skills could get you a jump start on a successful career in a startup in the IT field. Government really doesn't appreciate creative people, so I would rule that out. |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15): You're just asking to be fired before you're even hired. You do NOT talk about what you do in your career in a public light. |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15): Your YouTube channel should be completely free of anything that might shed negative light on your employer (and I would suggest that if you have any videos that do so |
Quoting JJJ (Reply 22): Work on a travel blog, one of those many "Foreigner in XXXX" acting as a local insider to those visiting, work out a few 1, 2 and 3-days routes and since you're into social media promoting it should not be a problem. |
Quoting casinterest (Reply 12): You have a strong knack for Project and Product management that I have seen in some of your posts on the Civil Aviation thread. With some training, you could be really good in that area. Why not come back to the states for a while, where your English is good enough to gain traction in the business area? You can hone your skills in Japanese and wait for a better opportunity overseas when it presents itself. |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13): If you are careful with your choice of employer, this isn't always the case. |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13): Have you heard of H&R Group? They have all kinds of services and are focused mainly on the Kanto area. |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13): You're not going to have all three of these going for you simultaneously at your age. As others have said, you're going to need to be more flexible. |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13): Unless your family has political connections, |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13): Seriously dude, just a quick word - if you want Japan and all these other goals to work out, be a little more willing to listen to others. I know digital is not the best medium, but the tone of some of your responses is pretty negative and dismissive. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14): Need money? Probably not gonna get it any time soon. Your degree isn't one where you can likely jump into a high paying position any time soon. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14): Learn Japanese quicker from a job where you mostly speak Japanese? I can see that as a good goal, depending on your end goal. But will it match up nicely with your time and money demands? Highly doubt it |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15): A friend of mine became fluent in Turkish (and married her Turkish husband) all while teaching English to kids in Turkey. That is perhaps one of the best ways to engage: you teach them a language, they can help you with theirs. |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15): Don't be surprised if your idea is shot down even before it takes off. |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15): THIS! Nothing ever comes easy at first. The effort you placed during your time in college is what you'll get back when you graduate. You reap what you sow. |
Quoting Rara (Reply 21): Get any other job that lets you survive. Go work in a bar or whatever. But use the time to learn Japanese. Properly. |
Quoting JJJ (Reply 22): Sounds like you could be a good tourist guide for English-speaking people visiting Japan. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 23): Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15): THIS! Nothing ever comes easy at first. The effort you placed during your time in college is what you'll get back when you graduate. You reap what you sow. Well that's why I transferred to Sophia University. I wanted to learn more about the society IN the society. That's why I came here. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 23): Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15): Don't be surprised if your idea is shot down even before it takes off. That's why I have MULTIPLE ideas. |
Quoting FriscoHeavy (Reply 25): I have an interview myself coming up this Friday in Milwaukee and you better believe I'm already preparing for it -- Making sure suit has been laundered, copies printed of resume/cover letter/references, studying up on the company/department, etc. |
Quoting FriscoHeavy (Reply 25): When are you going to shave that damn ponytail and work on your grammar/social skills for your interviews? |
Quoting 910A (Reply 26): Have you thought about applying to the Air Force or Navy OCS programs? Not only will you develop strong leadership skills, depending on the field you can get hands on experience in management in skills that aviation companies are looking for. One other plus, especially the Air Force, you can work on your Master's while on active duty. Something to think about. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): Well I kinda gave up on that, because I instead chose to find work in Japan, for the sake of staying in the YouTube community I belong to. |
Quoting FriscoHeavy (Reply 25): When are you going to shave that damn ponytail and work on your grammar/social skills for your interviews? If not, when do you plan on doing that? |
Quoting FriscoHeavy (Reply 25): I'm not trying to be mean, but realistic. I'm 29 and fortunate I have learned what it takes to be successful. No, I do not get every job I interview for, but I at least give myself a shot by preparing in the ways mentioned above. |
Quoting 910A (Reply 26): Unless you're self employed or satisfied with manual labor the pony tail will continue to reflect badly on you. Lack of interpersonal skills can't be hidden in a face to face interview. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 23): The process of being recruited in a Japanese company is really broken, plain and simple. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 23): I keep my private life seriously under wraps. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 23): All i really need for passing N2 is learning the vocabulary and the kanji. Not hard to do at all, just need to be able to have time to study outside work. |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 24): Quoting PHX787 (Reply 23): Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15): THIS! Nothing ever comes easy at first. The effort you placed during your time in college is what you'll get back when you graduate. You reap what you sow. Well that's why I transferred to Sophia University. I wanted to learn more about the society IN the society. That's why I came here. You're still not addressing a fundamental issue: what did you expect to gain by learning about Japanese society? You say you want to work for Boeing. How or why would Boeing hire you? What would you provide Boeing that they don't already have or need? Why would any other company hire you for that matter? What makes you unique in that a company will say "Oh s#!t, this guy has talent. We could really use him."? |
Quoting 910A (Reply 26): Have you thought about applying to the Air Force or Navy OCS programs? |
Quoting stlgph (Reply 32): As I tell everyone in the resume process - "cut it back and tone it down, unless your mother is hiring you, you're not special." |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 24): But the prestige only goes so far. If you think that because you studied abroad you'll land a cushy, high 5 figure or low 6 figure salary, I hate to burst your bubble, but unless you studied something that's in demand and you're a star candidate, it's not gonna help you that much. |
Quoting FriscoHeavy (Reply 25): When are you going to shave that damn ponytail and work on your grammar/social skills for your interviews? If not, when do you plan on doing that? |
Quoting 910A (Reply 26): Unless you're self employed or satisfied with manual labor the pony tail will continue to reflect badly on you. Lack of interpersonal skills can't be hidden in a face to face interview. |
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 28): Am I just too old to get it (I don't feel that old...), or is this as ridiculous as it sounds? |
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 28): Long hair? I've gotten two jobs now with long hair. Of course, I'm an engineer, not a "corporate"-type guy. So it's very dependent on what's acceptable at the company or in the line of work. |
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 28): Grammar/interview skills, yes of course they are important. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 28): Am I just too old to get it (I don't feel that old...), or is this as ridiculous as it sounds? Yeah it's crazy but it's reason enough for me. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): I never failed an interview because of hair or grammar. It's because I'm not qualified for that job. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 35): You seem to be shutting down all the criticism you're getting yet you absolutely can't find a job and most (all?) of the people responding to you have successful careers. If you're right and they're all wrong, why are you (fresh out of college with no job experience I should add) the one without a job? |
Quoting 910A (Reply 36): Your appearance and speaking ability waking in the room for the interview can sink you before the first question is asked. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): I'm trying to land something that's going to drive me into a good career 5 years down the line. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): You don't know how I talk in person so reserve your judgement for later. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): I never failed an interview because of hair or grammar. It's because I'm not qualified for that job. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): Yeah it's crazy but it's reason enough for me. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): I've landed two internships with long hair. No problems. I've seen plenty of corporate types in Japan with long hair too. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 28): Am I just too old to get it (I don't feel that old...), or is this as ridiculous as it sounds? Yeah it's crazy but it's reason enough for me. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 28): Long hair? I've gotten two jobs now with long hair. Of course, I'm an engineer, not a "corporate"-type guy. So it's very dependent on what's acceptable at the company or in the line of work. I've landed two internships with long hair. No problems. I've seen plenty of corporate types in Japan with long hair too. |
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 38): 3. Once someone is in, they're in. If you're trying to get in, you have to impress. |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 34): Im not trying to land a 6-figure starter job. I'm trying to land something that's going to drive me into a good career 5 years down the line. |
Quoting 910A (Reply 36): Not being qualified for the job, is the number one standard rejection. Your appearance and speaking ability waking in the room for the interview can sink you before the first question is asked. If you don't want to accept criticism from individuals that have worked in the real world, conducted interviews, hired prospects that's your right. You really seem to need some tough love at this point. |
Quoting Flighty (Reply 40): Job asks several years' work experience in the field. |
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 41): Normally the CV gets you the interview - so they deemed you qualified. It's the interview process that is letting you down. I was always told - dress two levels up for an interview. |
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13): Seriously dude, just a quick word - if you want Japan and all these other goals to work out, be a little more willing to listen to others. I know digital is not the best medium, but the tone of some of your responses is pretty negative and dismissive. Not going to get very far with these things you want to do if you can't turn that frown upside down. Nearly every person I have not hired in the last couple years has come down to attitude, not anything on their resume. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14): You can't lay out a bunch of unrealistic demands like this and expect to get it as your entry level job. This is a fine end goal but I doubt you will get something as good as you want right off the bat. That's exactly the entitlement we criticize our generation for. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): I haven't had an interview for the last two weeks. |
Quoting FriscoHeavy (Reply 25): When are you going to shave that damn ponytail and work on your grammar/social skills for your interviews? If not, when do you plan on doing that? Honestly, fixing those couple of things will lead you to have a lot more success in the interview arena. Dress sharp for your interviews. I have an interview myself coming up this Friday in Milwaukee and you better believe I'm already preparing for it -- Making sure suit has been laundered, copies printed of resume/cover letter/references, studying up on the company/department, etc. I'm not trying to be mean, but realistic. I'm 29 and fortunate I have learned what it takes to be successful. No, I do not get every job I interview for, but I at least give myself a shot by preparing in the ways mentioned above. |
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 28): I'm 33, and the single biggest thing I learned about interviewing is to just be myself. I'm not good at being anybody else. I don't try to oversell myself or undersell myself. In fact, I don't try and sell myself at all. It's worked wonders; primarily, I'm much more relaxed in interviews. I used to be nervous as hell. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 37): Agreed. Like it or not, fair or unfair, your pony tail gets mentioned quite a bit. I think it's fair to say it isn't helping you, it can only hurt you. Consider this: if it is a turn off, do you think many interviewers will tell you it is? |
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 41): Normally the CV gets you the interview - so they deemed you qualified. It's the interview process that is letting you down. I was always told - dress two levels up for an interview. |
Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 44): Also being relaxed means that you can actually interview the company to see if they are worthy of you. |
Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter): but there's no way I can become a teacher. |