Quoting mad99 (Reply 48):

Speaking of Middle East countries aiding in the fight against ISIL, is Israel helping with military support? Serious question, not flame baiting. I don't seem to recall hearing anything about them supporting the initiative.

Quoting DDR (Reply 50): Speaking of Middle East countries aiding in the fight against ISIL, is Israel helping with military support? Serious question, not flame baiting. I don't seem to recall hearing anything about them supporting the initiative.

I think Ironicaly ISIL is good for them, They will never consider making an attack on the likes of Israel but at the same time they occupy Assad in Syria, also The Iranians.. and do battle with the likes of Hezbolla. If they ever went up face to face with a modern military like Israels they would probably be wiped out within the week. Hiding in places like Iraq/Syria with random daily skirmishes using civilians as cover works better for them.

Quoting giancavia (Reply 49): You know what I still cant comprehend is the soft spot liberals have for Militant Islam. These people would be the first to be executed or thrown off of buildings under Islamic rule yet they have a constant hardon for it. It makes me cringe, laugh and bang my head against the wall all at the same time. Cretins.

  

They wouldn't acknowledge Islamic terrorism if their life depended on it. They hate Christians that much that they'll defend the indefensible just because it's a common enemy.

BBC update

"Danish police say the gunman believed to have attacked a free-speech debate and a Copenhagen synagogue was 22, born in Denmark and known to them because of past violence..... Police believe the gunman was acting alone. He was known to them in connection with criminal gangs and had convictions for violent offences and dealing in weapons"

No doubt more info will follow so maybe just a single person "radicalised".

Quoting giancavia (Reply 51):

I agree with you. That's what makes me a little mad. Israel has the capability to destroy ISIL but since it doesn't pose a risk to them, they just sit back while Americans, British, Jordanians, etc. get murdered.

Of course I could be completely wrong but geez, it sure seems like it.

Until people get over the "my religion is better than your religion" foolishness, this stuff is going to continue.

Quoting DDR (Reply 54): I agree with you. That's what makes me a little mad. Israel has the capability to destroy ISIL but since it doesn't pose a risk to them, they just sit back while Americans, British, Jordanians, etc. get murdered.

It would be more trouble then it is worth to them, It would just be a reason for self loathing westerners to protest Israel. "They bombed ISIL but killed 20 babies and women those evil opressors blah blah". It makes more sense to let their enemies be occupied by other enemies and watch them wipe each other out. Lets face it the USA and the rest of our nations could do a lot more then they are also. Cameron is focused on elections. Obama prefers golf and Merkel would like to give housing to the terrorists.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 28): But apart from recent action by Jordan, the rest of the Muslim world has been conspicuous by its lack of commitment to defeating Radical Islamists

The rest of the Islamic world seems to be interested in keeping certain Radical Islamists (like the Sauds and the Emirs of Dubai, Qatar, etc.) in power while keeping others (like ISIS) out of power.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 30): Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Iraq, Qatar and United Arab Emirates are also involved in the fight against ISIS.

And those countries all violently punish apostasy and blasphemy (and homosexuality and adultery) so we are just pitting one flavor of Islamic extremist against another.

Quoting giancavia (Reply 49): You know what I still cant comprehend is the soft spot liberals have for Militant Islam. These people would be the first to be executed or thrown off of buildings under Islamic rule yet they have a constant hardon for it. It makes me cringe, laugh and bang my head against the wall all at the same time. Cretins.

Indeed. According to a Jewish community here in Finland they have actually received even more hate from far left wingers than from Muslims. These modern day commies / anarchists love to victimize Muslims and blame United States & Israel for everything that's wrong in Middle East. To me it seems like "liberal" eurolefties are committing a collective suicide with their disastrous immigration policies and endless understanding of Islamic extremism. In fact I'm glad that's the case, I would rather have Sharia law than a modern day DDR ruled by a government of radical feminists and socialists.

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Quoting pvjin (Reply 57): To me it seems like "liberal" eurolefties are committing a collective suicide with their disastrous immigration policies and endless understanding of Islamic extremism. In fact I'm glad that's the case, I would rather have Sharia law than a modern day DDR ruled by a government of radical feminists and socialists.

lol careful, there is a click of 4 on here that will come after you now until you are drowned out by the flood of hypocrisy.

To be fair to the nutty radical feminists at least Females are real. "gods" are not.

Quoting david_itl (Reply 53):

The interesting thing is that he appears to have been radicalized in Copenhagen. Most of the Danish radical islamists, who have gone off to fight with IS in Syria & Iraq, have all come from a particular mosque in Aarhus.

Since he had gang connections, I also wonder if he turned to religion to escape gang life?

And of course, there's the question of where he was hiding for 8+ hours after he left his apartment after the first attack, how he made it to the synagogue in Krystalgade without being spotted, and where he spent 3 hours after that attack. I guess it's almost a given he went to his apartment to change clothes after the first attack, but after the second attack? When police presence in Copenhagen was massive?

Incidently, it's not the first time the mosque has been attacked by islamist groups. It was hit as part of a number of attacks on the same day back in the 80's, where bombs were set off at a NW office and the synagogue, and where only the presence of armed security prevented a third attack on an LY office.

Name of the gunman has been released: Omar Abdel Hamid El-Hussein.

He was well known by police for gang activity and has served sentences for violence and illegal weapons.

Today an internet cafe in the area was stormed by police. A few "customers" were arrested, and a few computers were taken in custody for examination.

Quoting pvjin (Reply 57):

Shariah law vs. Communism = no winner.

Why do we have to have any form of extremism? To be honest, no country on earth has found the right balance when it comes to governing. Case in point. North Korea affords very little freedom to its citizens but the country enjoys a very low violent crime rate. In the United States, Americans enjoy lots of freedoms which help cause the country to have a rather high violent crime rate (easy acces to weapons, criminal' rights, etc.) Somewhere in the middle, there has to be a good balance.

Quoting giancavia (Reply 49): Exactly, Not only that. I question the sanity of a well educated adult in the year 2015 that still believes in invisible sky fairies. It is a ridiculous concept never mind killing in the name of it

Wow. Judging by your history of posts, I assume you are an anti-theist? If not, you are definitely an apologist for anti-theists. I would be more concerned if you were my neighbor than some conservatively religious family.

Quoting giancavia (Reply 49): You know what I still cant comprehend is the soft spot liberals have for Militant Islam. These people would be the first to be executed or thrown off of buildings under Islamic rule yet they have a constant hardon for it.

Most liberals I know despise militant Islam, but feel that moderate Muslims who live and work among us and don't support that sort of behavior shouldn't be vilified because of it. I agree, but I would ask those "moderate" Muslims how they use their affiliation to fight that sort of violence.

Must liberals I know feel that one of the reasons that there is militant Islam is because of the long history of Western meddling with that part of the world. I would ask those liberals to consider that the Muslim Dark Ages pre-date Western meddling.

Quoting A332DTW (Reply 62): Wow. Judging by your history of posts, I assume you are an anti-theist? If not, you are definitely an apologist for anti-theists. I would be more concerned if you were my neighbor than some conservatively religious family.

I can't think of very many positive ways that religion has changed the world that required it to be a religion to affect the change. In general, religion has served as a way for powerful rulers to maintain their power and this is certainly the case in the Middle East today.

Quoting A332DTW (Reply 62): Wow. Judging by your history of posts, I assume you are an anti-theist? If not, you are definitely an apologist for anti-theists. I would be more concerned if you were my neighbor than some conservatively religious family.

Typical religious nut, Afraid to live next door to someone who isn't deluded or willing to commit any kind of violence in the name of the voices they hear from the sky. I have no interest in religion or violence. Go stalk some more, I wouldnt like to live next door to a stalker. See how easy it is to spin cheesy propaganda, Do I require a restraining order? heh.

Quoting DDR (Reply 61): Somewhere in the middle, there has to be a good balance.

Meh, There will never be world peace unfortunately. Even balance seems to be hard to achieve when people are killing so regularly in the name of non existant entities.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 43): The drawings that have offended persons of the Islamic faith, with a few driven to do violent acts of revenge, isn't just about religious teachings, but that it is seen as deliberate insult to persons who are not of the home culture and to be a nasty put down, intimidation to keep them out of their country, or made to live in certain areas, limited in educational, employment, political and economic opportunity. The drawings have also been vile in using stereotype depictions such as big noses, looking dirty, or connecting with or condoning terrorism in the Western world. While one can be constructively critical of any faith or the behaviors of believers due to their religious beliefs, deliberately provoking with insults like depictions of The Prophet Mohammad is just being deliberately and unnecessarily provocative. I would also like to see insulted groups take peaceful protests, encourage boycotts of advertisers and publishers who do such acts to make them use better editorial control for their own economic well being.

Do religious people care when they offend me ? Why should I care that a cartoon offends them ?

I am anti-theist, anti-clerical, anti-religious. That doesn't mean I attack religious people, I don't even think about that. I will certainly not change my ways to appease them, though.

Quoting giancavia (Reply 64): Typical religious nut, Afraid to live next door to someone who isn't deluded or willing to commit any kind of violence in the name of the voices they hear from the sky. I have no interest in religion or violence. Go stalk some more, I wouldnt like to live next door to a stalker. See how easy it is to spin cheesy propaganda, Do I require a restraining order? heh.

It seems I may have hit a sweet spot. Are you 12? I don't understand why you are incapable of communicating like an adult. No one has to stalk you, you are quite active on any thread concerning these matters. I honestly do not understand what you even mean by the other half of your statement... so with that, Good Day!

Quoting giancavia (Reply 55): It would just be a reason for self loathing westerners to protest Israel. "They bombed ISIL but killed 20 babies and women those evil opressors blah blah".

ISIL captures three westerners: An American, a German and an Israeli. On the day of execution they are granted their last wish.
"Hamburger with fries," is American's request
"Bratwurst and a beer," is the last wish of the German guy
"Kick me in my butt!" requests the Israeli.
This wish is of course granted immediately and as soon as the ISIL terrorist turns around to kick the Israeli prisoner, he takes advantage of the opportunity, uses his krav maga skills, beats up all the ISIL terrorists and calls up a rescue team.
When it's all over, the American then approaches him and asks the Israeli guy:
"Thanks a lot, but tell me: why did you ask to kick you in the butt?"
"I had to" says the Israeli "...otherwise you'd accuse me, I started it."

Quoting A332DTW (Reply 66): It seems I may have hit a sweet spot. Are you 12? I don't understand why you are incapable of communicating like an adult. No one has to stalk you, you are quite active on any thread concerning these matters. I honestly do not understand what you even mean by the other half of your statement... so with that, Good Day!

No it seems infact I hit the sweet spot, You tried to throw accusations because I openly critiscize religion. Like I would be dangerous to live next door to because I dont embrace or am not influenced by things that dont exist. I don't partake in violence, Never have hit a person or even had a fight. Doesn't mean I can not mock what I find ridiculous openly and freely. I merely used your nonsensical formula and made you out to be a stalker the same way you made me out to be a bad neighbour. Get over it.

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 67): ISIL captures three westerners: An American, a German and an Israeli. On the day of execution they are granted their last wish. "Hamburger with fries," is American's request "Bratwurst and a beer," is the last wish of the German guy "Kick me in my butt!" requests the Israeli. This wish is of course granted immediately and as soon as the ISIL terrorist turns around to kick the Israeli prisoner, he takes advantage of the opportunity, uses his krav maga skills, beats up all the ISIL terrorists and calls up a rescue team. When it's all over, the American then approaches him and asks the Israeli guy: "Thanks a lot, but tell me: why did you ask to kick you in the butt?" "I had to" says the Israeli "...otherwise you'd accuse me, I started it."

lol thumbs up.

Quoting prebennorholm (Reply 21):

My point was that after all this killing, and the recent episodes of terror, and the fact that a hated man on the hit list of the Muslim Terrorists was going to appear in Copenhagen, that surely someone would think to increase security around the site of this affair. We are many years into this era of killing, or attemting to kill people who insult the Prophet. Surely someone was remiss.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 63): I would ask those liberals to consider that the Muslim Dark Ages pre-date Western meddling.

What are you talking about when you say: "Muslim Dark Ages"?

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 43): The drawings that have offended persons of the Islamic faith, with a few driven to do violent acts of revenge, isn't just about religious teachings, but that it is seen as deliberate insult to persons who are not of the home culture and to be a nasty put down, intimidation to keep them out of their country, or made to live in certain areas, limited in educational, employment, political and economic opportunity. The drawings have also been vile in using stereotype depictions such as big noses, looking dirty, or connecting with or condoning terrorism in the Western world.

Freedom of expression is what it is. In any case, people who consider themselves offended, have other ways to react to suich "vile" depictions, legal means even. Definitely not to kill anyone.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 43): While one can be constructively critical of any faith or the behaviors of believers due to their religious beliefs, deliberately provoking with insults like depictions of The Prophet Mohammad is just being deliberately and unnecessarily provocative.

Why exactly? Nowhere does it say Mohammad can´t be depicted. That is just an interepretation. The du jour interpretation it seems. Some Western societies again rely on freedom of expression as one fo the building blocks of their functioning democracies. If certain Muslims can´t understand that it´s their problem.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 43): I would also like to see insulted groups take peaceful protests, encourage boycotts of advertisers and publishers who do such acts to make them use better editorial control for their own economic well being.

You are sounding like you would be ok with censorship.

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 44): Thanks for at least admitting that islam is just as totalitarian and just as dangerous ideology as nazism and communism.

You may want to add Christianity in that line.

Quoting Redd (Reply 46): If I draw a picture of Christians depicting them as bunch of twisted animals then I might get a picket by the Westboro Babtist Church with signs reading "Polaks Are Fags!" & "All Polish Are Going To Hell"

Are you sure? Come down to certain parts of Mexico, Latin America, Africa, and Asia. You´d be surprised about how similarly violent reaction you will get as if you did that in the middle of a Muslim country.

Quoting pvjin (Reply 47): People who can't stand their religion getting insulted simply don't belong to a modern western society, it's as simple as that.

Wrong. They belong just as well. People who kill over it or do harm to others, are the ones who don´t belong. It´s different.

Quoting giancavia (Reply 49): Exactly, Not only that. I question the sanity of a well educated adult in the year 2015 that still believes in invisible sky fairies. It is a ridiculous concept never mind killing in the name of it.

Just as usual, your rants make you as intolerant and fanatical as those who say the things opposite, but they are still the same. It may be invisible fairies in the sky to you and a "ridiculous concept." But it is not to others. However, you have a right to say such insulting things and nobody to come over and harm you, mind you, but still you are being as intolerant and insulting as those whose "sanity" you question. It´s Faith Dogma. And who are you to question and insult others who chose to engage in it? Really. Who?

I don´t share Faith Dogma, and I feel rather closer to your position, but your intolerance and the insulting things you write about those who incorporate Faith in a superior power in their lives is no different from those Muslims who feel insulted when somebody draws their prophet. In fact, being that you write the same things, only from a different camp, and different words but still the same things, actually make it very hard for me to understand why you don´t get it when they react in a bad way.

I am not saying you should be censored, banned, hurt or killed, of course. And I am not implying that you will go into a church and start hurting others who believe "in fairies in the sky". Far from that. Rather I´m pointing out the thing about the pot...kettle...black.

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 59): Most of the Danish radical islamists, who have gone off to fight with IS in Syria & Iraq, have all come from a particular mosque in Aarhus.

And why has that mosque not been raided and closed?

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 63): I agree, but I would ask those "moderate" Muslims how they use their affiliation to fight that sort of violence.

I have a feeling that their attempts would be met with the same contempt that I would recieve, if I as a protestant christian went to, say, Uganda to try and get them to overturn their death penalty law against homosexuality. Or if I went to the deep south of the US and tried to reason with them that Christ was about love, and that they shouldn't be so freaking scared of gay marriages. There's a bit more to it than simply sharing a belief.

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 69): My point was that after all this killing, and the recent episodes of terror, and the fact that a hated man on the hit list of the Muslim Terrorists was going to appear in Copenhagen, that surely someone would think to increase security around the site of this affair.

The Danish security and intelligence service was present, along with armed regular police, and this was enough to stop the perpetrator from entering the building. I'm not sure what else could have been done, other than a complete lockdown of the entire area.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 71): And why has that mosque not been raided and closed?

Because it's not the officials in the mosque itself who are indoctrinating young men. Often it's users of the mosque who will spot a vulnerable person, take him to a rented flat, and watch & listen some extremely hatefilled speeches on Youtube & other video sites, and basically make said person part of their group. At which point getting that person out again becomes extremely difficult.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 71): Just as usual, your rants make you as intolerant and fanatical as those who say the things opposite, but they are still the same. It may be invisible fairies in the sky to you and a "ridiculous concept." But it is not to others.

Boring, I am sure you dont question or mock tom cruise and his scientology cult. Or if your neighbour stuck a giant banana in his back garden and started worshiping it claiming it was the be all and end all of life and he would kill you if you offended the godly banana you would just accept it for what it is mr tolerance. What a joke. Religion gets mocked so regulary because it isnt real, It is a belief.. anyone can make up a random belief in anything absolutely bonkers. Does it deserve respect or questioning and being taken apart seriously, humorously or any other way someone wants to analyse and critique fantasy. Why should it ever have any influence or expect respect from anyone when it is preached and forced in your face from one end of the world to the other despite it not being reality.

Bow to the banana?

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 72):

Time and distance once again. I have never seen an account of how he managed to escape after the shots. I just find it hard to believe that he managed to avoid all the security to get near the building, never mind escaping. CNN just reported that flowers are being left at the site of the shooting death of the gunman.

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Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3): Christianity never had that problem (The Bible was written by humans, so it is easy to consider that it is subject to error or omission)

You've GOT to be freakin' joking with this... take a stroll through any Southern city, and see what kind of consensus you get on that.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 6): Right now, your brethren are starting to beg for the rest of the world to commit genocide

Sad, but true.

Quoting DDR (Reply 31): Thousands of people cheering the killings was chilling enough. I'm sure there were others cheering in secret.

How do you think they feel, when they see Israel responding to essentially homemade firecrackers by rolling tanks through families' houses, and Westerners cheering them on?

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 63): Most liberals I know despise militant Islam, but feel that moderate Muslims who live and work among us and don't support that sort of behavior shouldn't be vilified because of it

  

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 74):

The even happened ~30 hours ago, and I suspect it'll be a while before we get a report on what exactly happened. All I can say is, I can easily see how he could get close enough to the entrance without being spotted. The Fælled Park is right across from Krudttønden, and there's a lot of trees and thick bushes running parallel Serridslevvej all the way from Jagtvej. The fence is low enough to jump over with ease. I suspect he made his getaway along the same route, until he spotted the car he eventually stole.

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 76):

Thanks for the information, I am sure it will all come out if there were mistakes in security procedures.

Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 75):

Ha ha, nice try but not even close to the same thing. Stop trying to be shocking. Doesn't work.

You can't compare Al Queda and ISIL to Israel (of which I am no great fan).

Quoting DDR (Reply 50): is Israel helping with military support?

wiki says no and its not surprising. If they were to join then everyone not with isis would be fighting with Israel and for any Muslim country that would be a no no.

Quoting giancavia (Reply 55): Lets face it the USA and the rest of our nations could do a lot more then they are also. Cameron is focused on elections. Obama prefers golf and Merkel would like to give housing to the terrorists.

Seriously man, why aren't you in there doing better then?

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 56): The rest of the Islamic world seems to be interested in keeping certain Radical Islamists (like the Sauds and the Emirs of Dubai, Qatar, etc.) in power while keeping others (like ISIS) out of power.

  

Quoting mad99 (Reply 79):

Aren't politics just great?

Quoting mad99 (Reply 79): If they were to join then everyone not with isis would be fighting with Israel and for any Muslim country that would be a no no.

Let's not forget that during the Gulf War in 1991, Saddam tried this tactic by attempting to split the coalition by raining SCUDs on Israel. Imagine how much patience it took in Jerusalem to just play sitting duck instead of responding in kind by turning Baghdad into a parking lot.

I don't know how many Muslims object to depictions of Muhammad. Histoically there have been many depictions of the Messenger in literature and in art, though the face is usually without definition. Even in modern day Iran, there have been murals depicting Muhammad. These portrayals are generally not seen as offensive or insulting but as portraying the life of the Messenger and reinforcing his message.

But what people in the West insist on being freedom of speech is not simple paintings or murals showing, for example, the Messenger seated and talking to his circle, or on al-Buraq making the journey to al-Quds. No, what they insist on is their right to publish deliberately insulting material, for example depicting the Messenger as a porn star.

Now, that does not justify anyone being killed but I do wonder why so many people believe that the essential criterion for a civilised society is the right to go out of one's way to deliberately and generally insult others. What is lacking in the lives of people who demand the right to abuse others?

Everyone can be critical of Islam or any other belief system but why is it necessary to resort to schoolboy crudities whose main purpose is not to educate but to offend? Is it because of a weak intellect and an inability to present a coherent argument?

Quoting DDR (Reply 78): Ha ha, nice try but not even close to the same thing.

Says who?

Quoting DDR (Reply 78): Stop trying to be shocking. Doesn't work.

No one's "trying to be shocking"... the simple fact of the matter, regardless as to whether you choose to accept it, is that many in the Islam world see blind Western support for Israel's antics, no matter how brutal/lopsided/horrendous they may be, and think the same thing.

Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 84):

So you are a spokesman for the "Islam World?"

Quoting AR385 (Reply 71): Wrong. They belong just as well. People who kill over it or do harm to others, are the ones who don´t belong. It´s different.

No, they don't belong here. Their intolerance breeds extremism, they are the very source of those who kill or otherwise harm others over religion. Their very existence on European soil is threat to our values of free speech and democracy.

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

I think this quote from Voltaire sums it all up pretty nicely. When we stop following this ideal we can as well surrender to ISIS. Obviously I don't expect Muslims or religious people in general to like or agree with criticism / mockery towards their religion, however if they demand it to be made illegal they clearly should move elsewhere.

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Quoting ElanusNotatus (Reply 83): Now, that does not justify anyone being killed but I do wonder why so many people believe that the essential criterion for a civilised society is the right to go out of one's way to deliberately and generally insult others. What is lacking in the lives of people who demand the right to abuse others?

On the contrary, artists with a political message use irony and sardonic wit to highlight inconsistencies and perceived gaps in morality. Sustained commentary like these making logical counterpoint through humor have a history of effective delegitimization of established institutions.

This is not abuse of individuals in any sense - it is focused ridicule of organizations or institutions that routinely demean, degrade, and *actually abuse* real individuals and groups of people. There is nothing wrong with doing so.

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 82): Imagine how much patience it took in Jerusalem to just play sitting duck instead of responding in kind by turning Baghdad into a parking lot.

You don´t have to imagine much, because they didn´t have any. They were launching their jets when the US or "the coalition" ordered them to stand down and they refused. So the coalition refused to give them the IFF codes. That´s why they didn´t do anything. They would have been shot out of the sky.

Quoting pvjin (Reply 86): No, they don't belong here. Their intolerance breeds extremism, they are the very source of those who kill or otherwise harm others over religion. Their very existence on European soil is threat to our values of free speech and democracy.

You said:

Quoting pvjin (Reply 47): People who can't stand their religion getting insulted simply don't belong to a modern western society, it's as simple as that.

And to you that means they are "intolerant, breed extremism and the very source of those who kill or otherwise harm others"? Why do you make that jump in reasoning? Just as you have a right to not be offended they have a right to be. They even have the legal means to do something about it. What they don´t have is a right to kill or harm others but sure they can be offended and yes they belong wherever they wish to belong. Just as you. And no, just because you say it till you are blue, it´s not "as simple as that"

Voltaire would agree.

Quoting pvjin (Reply 86): Obviously I don't expect Muslims or religious people in general to like or agree with criticism / mockery towards their religion, however if they demand it to be made illegal they clearly should move elsewhere.

No, they don´t. It´s their right. Wether the courts acquiesce is another matter. But it surely is their right.

Quoting david_itl (Reply 53): "Danish police say the gunman believed to have attacked a free-speech debate and a Copenhagen synagogue was 22, born in Denmark and known to them because of past violence..... Police believe the gunman was acting alone. He was known to them in connection with criminal gangs and had convictions for violent offences and dealing in weapons" No doubt more info will follow so maybe just a single person "radicalised".

There is definitely a pattern in that the people who decide to go on Jihad rampages in European cities or try to bomb stuff etc. are "lost boys"--petty criminals with long histories of drug and weapons crimes, gang activities, etc. They are very easy prey for brainwashing and radicalization. Ironically, they are the same types that become right-wing hooligans...

Quoting DDR (Reply 50): Speaking of Middle East countries aiding in the fight against ISIL, is Israel helping with military support? Serious question, not flame baiting. I don't seem to recall hearing anything about them supporting the initiative.

Ha, what a losing situation that would be. They can't even slap rocket launching Hamas and Hezbollah without half the world screaming "Genocide!" and now they'd be asked to play regional policeman to protect people who already hate them? Not going to happen.

Quoting DDR (Reply 54): Israel has the capability to destroy ISIL but since it doesn't pose a risk to them, they just sit back while Americans, British, Jordanians, etc. get murdered.

Where did you get the idea Israel could destroy ISIL? On Arab soil? And why exactly would they want to? Is oil an issue for them because that is the one and only reason the US and British are there.

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 69): in Copenhagen, that surely someone would think to increase security around the site of this affair.

They did. Ever been to Copenhagen, it's not exactly an intense city, yet there were police and guards posted that prevented the man from entering the cafe. What more should they have done?

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 87): This is not abuse of individuals in any sense - it is focused ridicule of organizations or institutions that routinely demean, degrade, and *actually abuse* real individuals and groups of people. There is nothing wrong with doing so.

      

Quoting mham001 (Reply 90): They can't even slap rocket launching Hamas and Hezbollah without half the world screaming "Genocide!

If by "slap" you mean "react with disgustingly nonproportional force to an issue that often directly results from their invasive actions, while ignoring the collateral of innocents in the process," then sure.  

Damn it. Why doesn't the islamic world try to stop this? I can think of a few reasons but many of you would probably attempt to rip me to shreds of being "racist" or a cultural imperialist.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3): Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 1): When is this craziness going to stop? To be honest? After the Islamic world goes through its own Reformation.

Wont happen with caliphates like the KSA and Iran around. Oil money keeps them alive.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3): which would turn Islam into a proper religion and remove the political, military, economic and legal aspects of Islam. The whole world will be better off for it.

Better idea- Teach people religion is a pure sham!

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 20): "Copenhagen Police released a blurry photo of the suspect. They described him as 25-30, 6-feet-tall, "an athletic build with an Arabic appearance.""

SOBH, an arabic appearance is this:
Tall, curly hair usually, and a particular tan to the skin.

Quoting n229nw (Reply 89): There is definitely a pattern in that the people who decide to go on Jihad rampages in European cities or try to bomb stuff etc.

Maybe normal europeans need to be armed themselves. Gun control laws in europe?

If someone attempted to barge into my meeting and I'm in the states, they can say goodbye to their head...because my glock would make sure it's in bits and pieces.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 92): SOBH, an arabic appearance is this: Tall, curly hair usually, and a particular tan to the skin.

Well i am average tall wise, hair not curly, white with green eyes and overweight.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 92): Maybe normal europeans need to be armed themselves. Gun control laws in europe?

But wait a minute. Most European nations have very strict gun control. Therefore they have nothing to worry about...

  

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 93): Well i am average tall wise, hair not curly, white with green eyes and overweight.

You would be very popular at match.com.  

Quoting Superfly (Reply 94): You would be very popular at match.com.

Not sure if the wife will let me join      

Quoting Superfly (Reply 94): Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 93): Well i am average tall wise, hair not curly, white with green eyes and overweight. You would be very popular at match.com.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 95): Quoting Superfly (Reply 94): You would be very popular at match.com. Not sure if the wife will let me join

SOBH- maybe there's obvious anomalies with my description      

Larry-                  

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 95): Not sure if the wife will let me join

Password protect your computer/smartphone.  

Quoting Superfly (Reply 97): Password protect your computer/smartphone.

And put it under 64 year old sugar daddy?   

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 98): And put it under 64 year old sugar daddy?

     

Don´t flatter yourself.