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Effects - Severe long term negative effects happening in short term?

Discussion in 'Methamphetamine' started by nevergoback, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. nevergoback

    nevergoback Newbie

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    From 6 months of meth addiction, I have gotten all the long term effects. That I've been told doesnt happen for years.

    Meth bugs. Severe. Each time I do it. I'm scratching at my skin for hours. Sometimes seeing them too.
    severe lung damage from 5 months of smoking it (I dont smoke it anymore, i inject now)
    Breathing problems
    Heart problems (cardiovasculaur damage, heart palpatations, high blood pressure/pulse)
    Extremely high tolerance and dependancy - i dont comedown anymore
    Psychological brain damage. Dopamine is dead, memory problems, neurotransmiter receptor damage.
    Weight loss, malnourished, underweight (88lbs at 5'3")
    permenant changes in appetite and sleep (have no appetite even when sober)
    nausea (happens while im high on meth, after being awake for a night, throwing up about 5 times each high now)
    chronic fatigue syndrome (diagnosed)
    Dry skin and hair, I look older, my eyes look fucked.
    And last but not least, it's left me HIV positive.

    How does all those things happen to someone who has only been using it for 6 months?
    I hear about how those things happen with long term meth addicts. I've been addicted to it for 6 months and have recieved severe permenant physichal and psychological damage from it... all these things have come to surface in the past 2 months... getting increasingly worse... have i just done too much meth or am i just one of the unlucky ones?
     
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  2. chibi curmudgeon

    chibi curmudgeon Gold Finger Gold Member

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    I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Depending on when you became HIV+, and what your viral load is like, that can have a huge impact on your health as well, making effects from meth even worse. You could be considered particularly unlucky, though how much you use, and how quickly you started using a lot, may affect your reactions. A lot of the problems you mentioned are connected as well. And though this may go without saying, these are all excellent reasons to quit.
     
  3. Grimace

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    Wait a minute... didn't you say less than an hour ago that the meth comedown doesn't even happen to you anymore? :confused:

    Does anyone else no longer comedown?

    You should probably get some much-needed sleep.
     
  4. nevergoback

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    Yes I know I said that? The comedown doesnt happen to me anymore? But all these things do.. and nothing i listed has anything to do with coming down? Just because the comedown doesnt happen to me anymore, doesnt mean the other things dont? that was just one aspect of the drug that i was talking about. there are so many more aspects, psychosis, brain damage, health effects, not to mention the cravings.im just trying to explain the pysichal and psychological effects ive recieved from this drug.
    one thing is replaced for another it seems... i stopped coming down.. then thats when the psychosis started... seeing things, hearing things. there really is no happy inbetween... i get psychosis all the time when i do meth now, sometimes i wish i could go back to the beginning when i used to comedown, cause now that i dont, im awake for longer, and thats when the bugs start crawling.
     
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  5. monkeyspanker

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    ^^^I'm in total agreement ^^^, and also very sorry hear about the state you're in. Becoming HIV+ and how you need to change your lifestyle to live with it should be what you focus your free time with, not doing drugs. I hope you're on anti-virals, please tell us you at least started treatment as soon as you knew you were HIV+.

    The new treatment drugs are very effective in recent years, this gives many a hope they will live much longer and with fewer symptoms, and they will if they stay on the treatment. IVing, snorting or smoking Meth or many other drugs for recreation is not recommended during treatment which you are on for life. Your body has been dealt a huge blow, you need to focus on taking care of it sweetheart, I've seen hundreds of people die from AIDS, it's slow, it's very painful, they beg in the end to please take their life because they don't have the strength anymore. You will get to that stage very quickly if you keep this shit up girlfriend, we'd all like to have you around, so please get on the path right now, I really do care.
     
  6. crushedice

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    That pretty much sucks and im sorry to hear that, first of all. =\

    But see, meth is...we all know, pure chemical right. So i think about it like this...the reason why i look fucked is because im huffing on a fuckload of combined chemicals & mixtures so basically its the "clorox" thats in me thats making me look this way. Who the fuck would ever drink clorox,first of all its not intentioned for a humane body to pretty much tolerate it but in a way were its combined with other chemicals. So, if that made any sense or i got my poin across, thats wat im tryna say.
    If u fuck with meth, you suould have known wat u were getting urself into.
    Alot of people i think dont research on health problems or know much about how bad it can harm your body. For instance, before i started using all i knew was that it makes u look different, and sucks u up, and can realy fuck you up. 1 year into using and im noticing all these effects that have over tooken some of in which u explained as well, my brain is dead, my fuckin speech is ridiculous i only overwhelm myself holding a conversation because im saying everything that DOESNT have to do with the topic, i remember an occasion and encounter and believe it was me because of some incident or ill add more to it unintentionally, ill slurr or buzz and stuttering is a daily thing for me now whether sober or not.
    My eyes are a different shape and look than wat they were before. I dont know if anyonce notices, but a person who uses methamphetamine has a slight downfall on the upper corner eyelids, and ive noticed this in many even myself now.
    Of course the eyes are now round and wide after heavy routine long time use, but on the corners of the upper eyelids about 1/3 into the eye the lid becomes looking druppy only again, on these corners, hardly noticeable because the other 2/3 of the eye and how wide and open they are overtake this which is why it is unoticeable.
    Check it out when sober, its actually a lot more noticeable than wen ur high as fuck lol. And its there to stay man, i mean you change, you change alot and many people in alot of ways other than physical.

    Got off topic for a bit huh, yea that was not intentional i just do that alot and sound like an idiot or AM lol.
    Back ontopic, and especially being as petite as you 5'3 first of all is tiny and its probably noticed because ur small as it is, and ur jus getting smaller and smaller which has landed you at 88lbs. Youve gotta keep up with SPEED, i meAn, its called speed for a reason.
    Shit just seems to speed by you without ever noticing it. Speed wastes no time. So for anyone whose guna fuck with pookie, do your research and prepare yourself to get on this ride man know wat to expect and how u can try to help urself in any way u can to prevent or slow down health and mental problems.

    Like i said, i buzz, slurr, and stutter in a conversation and sometimes i dont catch things so i look up and just kinda HUH? With a look in my eyes that just mkes the other person repeat the whole sentence they just said.
    So i picked up a bookand started reading. Reading 'excercises'the brain and restores memory/expands memory capability, the brain controls every movement every thought in the humane body, basically, if u work out youll get to toned right, welll if ya excercise ur brain man youll no doubt be a bit better off. In which i hope to help my stuttering and speech.
    Know wat foods to eAt, wat foods will help you. Dont let it take over you and eat sum fucking mans face off, wat the fuck? The last time i checked....i put my meth down wen i knew if i did anymore i wouldnt b okay, shit im just tryna get spun the fuck out and enjoy it. Not ever cross my limit i know would be too much for me.
    So prepare yourself, can you keep up with speed? Welcome to the meth world.
     
  7. hux1ey

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    Relax and cease the over-examination! Occam's Razor is a pretty good tool for the intellectual kit of any tweaker - we can be over thinkers at the best of times (Occams Razor = always go with the hypothesis that makes the fewest assumptions and thereby offers the simplest explanation)!

    What you speak of is merely tired eyes. I know it can even come to feel like a permanent deformity upon your face, but trust me, human skin and facial tissue is pretty fucking elastic. I've lived what you're talking about, and a proper break, and a serious period of proper sleep... yeah, it all starts looking more normal in no time.

    Same with the messed up speech patterns etc... it can become a habituated behaviour true, (which is why why I think your technique of training yourself into a new pattern worked) but I suspect they're behavioural twitches that can easily be understood as symptoms of ADD-type issues and social anxiety. And let's face it, those of us with these kinds of tendencies - we definitely feel that special amphetamine allure so much stronger than other folks. The crystal sings to us.

    Anyhow, pro-tip for dealing with fucked up eyes, and eye-bags etc. THIS SHIT IS FUCKING MAGIC: Hirudoid Cream. It's what Doctor's recommend to people with varicose veins and hardcore bruising etc. It feels bloody amazing. Apply it a few times a day around your eyes, and within a day or two, you'll see yourself looking way more normal. Did I mention how good it feels? awww.alivepluspharmacy.com_images_Hirudoid_Cream_40g_3.jpg
     
  8. crushedice

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    uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...................im not talking about the thin layer of skin around the eyes im actually talking about the ACTUAL eyeLID that becomes druppy.
    yes hun, we all know vitamin E will help with the dryness of the skin and provide the skin with extra collagen in which will rejuvenate the skin making it appear fresher and healthier.
    as for the eyeLIDS im not sure if that will actually help in lifing once it is drupped,sagged.
    llike, will a old mans balls look like a 18 year olds balls if he applies this a few times, if his balls are druppy as fuck now.
     
  9. nevergoback

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    My eyes changed shape as well! my eyes are really wide now and when i look back on photos from before i ever touched meth, they were relaxed and normal and my eyelids covered more of them but now they're really wide all the time - even when im not high. i think its permenant.
     
  10. crushedice

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    thank you honey, thats exactly what i stated here:


    the eyes ARE wide & very open, but the CORNERS are slightly fallen. like i said, not very noticeable because of how alive the eyes are, but if ya look closely ya might realize sumthanggg.

    crushedice added 2 Minutes and 15 Seconds later...

    homie, my eyes b wide as fucck wen i wake up in the morning. after a good night sleep too.
     
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  11. nevergoback

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    crushedice i thought i was the only one! its good to know im not alone.
    my eyes are wide as fuck too, theyve changed shape!! there really open ...
    i wonder why it happens...?!
     
  12. monkeyspanker

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    I'll ask once more, are you in treatment for your HIV infection? If so, would you care to share what anti-viral's and the dosage? If not, would you care to share with us why you aren't?
     
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    Wowzers! I have that shit. I buy it in Brazil though, havent seen it here.
     
  14. RubberzInc

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    i gotta jump in on this eyeball thing. Spanky the crank yanker next door has been wearing glasses/contacts for 30 years and the prescription has not changed at all in those 30 years. 9 months ago Spanky went on a meth binge and has not stopped even for a day since then. Spanky told me that at his last eye exam two weeks ago, his prescription changed ALOT. He said the doctor told him his near sightedness had gotten better by a whole diopter in each eye. Spanky told me he did an internet search and the general consensus was that near sightedness NEVER corrects itself over time, it always gets worse with age. Spanky told me "it's that fucking meth, it changed the shape of my eyes" This is a true story
     
  15. jitterbug

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    Elo this is true for me too. I literally whatched my eyebrows (whole forehead area) drop not slighty but a fucken overlayer on my lids lol after some intense scrutincy and freaking the fuck out- i told myself was just tweaking but after a weeks of good rest still droppy as ever. And as for the speech empidement before meth use i was a well-spoken confident speaker and now i sound like the sloth in ice age lol.
     
  16. midlifer

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    I've only been using on weekends for 3.5 months (geez those months went fast)and I am NOT liking some of the health crap that's been happening to me. This morning I woke up after a few hours sleep, haven't really slept more than a few hours since Friday morning (it's Monday morning now) and my ankles are very swollen, my skin is still very dry and deydrated, my eyes look weird, my entire body seems flushed, heart still pounding. I want this to be my last time, I really do. Starting up with this has been fun, don't get me wrong, and I love the euphoria, but physical after affects, not so good.
     
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  17. dopefromie

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    I'm really sorry about your situation...meth doesn't take long to cause noticeable differences in people...when you say "even when sober" sober doesn't mean didn't get high today....clean up...you'll notice a difference in a few weeks.....the affects will wear of eventually...some take longer than others...and being him+ you should have already stopped..maybeyou have...I hope so...
    Meth lil put healthy people in their grave....
     
  18. jameschandler272

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    I second monkeyspanker, anti virals? If not, why?
    Why are these long term effects happening? Because 6 months is long term. 2 weeks is short term. There is no finite time when use becomes long term. It's long term when it behaves like long term.
    At risk of sounding like a horrible hypocrite, your op includes so many great reasons to quit. I am not telling you to quit. I'm suggesting its something to think about. So is help. Again, not saying go to rehab (could I even say that here). But the only reason not to should be that you don't want to. Otherwise it's always available somewhere.