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[–]Cristoff13 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Don't women in 3rd world countries carry loads like this these sorts of distances? But I suppose that's where they grow up doing hard physical work, not like spoiled American girls.

I'm not saying women should be combat soldiers though.

[–]game_r[S] 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Probably slightly less than 50 pounds, but in India women carry fucking pots on their heads which is a feat on its own.

As for the standard itself (it's gender neutral), boy scouts seem to carry 30-40lbs on their backpack while hiking, which makes 50lbs for the military astonishingly embarrassing.

[–]Specialist-Sham 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (12子コメント)

50 lbs is a training load, most foot movements for light infantry are upwards of 125-150 lbs.

[–]game_r[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Shouldn't the training load be closer to that though? That's a huge disparity. Of course no woman would pass with a 150lbs standard, even female Olympic athletes would fail.

[–]thewatisit 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Boot camp maybe? Start small then work their way up?

[–]Specialist-Sham 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's mission dependent. This seems like a competition with all the people and news crew here so having a lighter load would make sense. But when I was infantry we usually trained with 45-50 pounds, training with a load any heavier could mean injury and that's the last thing you need.

[–]lonewolf-chicago 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

We had 80lbs...80 Lbs is standard.

[–]Starcruiser28 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We had 80lbs...80 Lbs is standard.

Where is Alice?

[–]game_r[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see, that makes sense.

[–]Itisforsexy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but if you're training for loads 3 times lighter than what you may need to carry in the field, it seems like you couldn't be prepared for those special times where that is needed?

[–]LampJuiceAddict 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

My understanding is that combat loads range between 65 and 90 pounds. This is the minimum that the individual has to carry; food, water, shelter, and ammunition to survive.

And I would wager real money that this poor girl fractured some bones in this exercise.

[–]Spungo1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I sure hope she's ok. Bone fractures are a real problem in the military. She might be carrying the equivalent of half her body weight on her back, and her bones don't know wtf is going on.

This should be a lesson to fat people. Falling down with too much weight is bad. Walking with too much weight is bad.

[–]AussiePhil82 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Where's that metric bot when you need it?

[–]Specialist-Sham -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dunno, I think It translates to 3 metric "fuck"s

[–]Slaide 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

BUT LOOK HOW STRONG AND EQUAL SHE IS TO HER FELLOW MALE SOLDIERS!

Yes... I am being facetious and sarcastic.

[–]josh_gropin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

oh cool, thanks for clarifying that, i was unsure.

[–]threekeysin 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They carry them on their heads. It's actually easier to carry larger loads this way but it fucks up your spine.

[–]indus360 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

until women are stripped of their rights to vote,hold positions of authority not only SHOULD they serve (in all female units of course) but they should be FORCED to serve with buzz hair cuts and on the front lines. equal rights!

[–]fleshnbones 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Didn't american women 50 years ago carry heavy shit dozens of miles?

[–]wordjedi 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (12子コメント)

[–]mdcrubengonza 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Even in that instance, you see the male throw her over the sand bags first, then afterwards he jumps.

[–]JayhawkBarney23 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He had to make sure the sandbags weren't gonna pull the pin out and throw it back.

[–]fuu999 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't surprise me, he is responsible may it be for a man or a woman

[–]realChebz 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But Mythbusters told me that "throw like a girl" was a myth!!

[–]ififcanIhaveacoatplz 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

he also said gender is a spectrum reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[–]Itisforsexy 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This gif doesn't even make sense? She couldn't throw a grenade 5 feet over the sandbags? Wtf? A kid could do that.

[–]uk_cuckold_hunter 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jeebus above! Just let them do the washing up!

[–]Cloudy_Wealth 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wha what how did that happen. That isn't even difficult

[–]DeusExMaximum 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's the question: was she fired, or did she even face any repercussions any more than a slap on the wrist?

[–]Tyranid_Swarmlord 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Although comments are cancer,i'm glad there's actual armed forces(PH general term for Military) calling her shit out.

Deflecting it to "BUT U PROBABLY COULDNT DO THE SAME TO" ignores the situation that her unit would could get killed because of her. Nobody cares that you "tried your best" irl,the only thing they care about is killing you asap then moving on to the next.

[–]fmanly 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The military is the ultimate merit-based system, at least during times of war. In almost any endeavor there are rules and judges and conventions. In war the only thing that really counts in the end is whose flag is standing on the top of the hill when it is all over.

[–]Painislove2016 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm no soldier, but I'm pretty sure using your rifle as a crutch and resting bent over with the barrel covering your face is a no-no...

[–]Xlasingx 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

she was just checking for the patriarchy.. /s

the only time you ever look down a barrel, is if it's detached from the weapon, i.e., cleaning..

[–]Oz70NYC 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am a soldier, and you're right. If she were a Marine she'd get smoked for that shit. Gunny would probably make her take the 12 mile march back the other way, with the kit on her back AND her rifle held over her head.

[–]CIAC50 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've been out of the Infantry for 18 years but I remember how important it was to maintain a fitness level above and beyond the minimum requirements. For my own benefit fitness meant entering a field exercise without dread. Just scraping a pass means you're not going to improve, it means always playing catch up.

[–]butternutsquash4u 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. In my infantry days I did decent in my PT days but sucked wind bad during road marches. It didn't help I was mortar infantry which means I had to carry the standard load plus the baseplate.

Edit: PT tests not PT days.

[–]phlegmvomit 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The fact that women have easier standards to pass for the army PFT seems so bizarre and messed up. They cry equality in the military but don't want to be held to the same standard as men. Of course they still collect the same paycheck as men though. If my life depended on someone else watching my back, I don't want the person that only had to do half of the physical fitness requirements that I did. Fuck that.

[–]realChebz 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But that's sexist you mysogynistic shitlord!

[–]Xlasingx 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

she might be able to drag you a foot or two..

least to the site where the mortar lands..

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[–]mgtowOnly 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I totally want her covering my ass when I'm at war /s

[–]thrown1520 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is a perfect illustration of feminism.

Torturing women and girls for the sake of ruining men and boys.

[–]Xlasingx 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this gal will prob gloat for years to come for crossing that line..

i just hope those whom patted her on the back, eventually see this disgraceful vid.

[–]muensterkat 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I used to see this kind of thing in cross country way back in high school. I remember South Dakota senator John Thune's girls doing this exact same thing. Collapsing just in front of the finish line where everyone could see their dramatic finish. One girl made it about 25 yards from the finish line, fell down and crawled hands and knees to the end with people cheering her on.

No one ever collapsed during the hard hills or in the woods. They always collapsed in sight of all the people and all the cheers.

It was never the boys either.

[–]SaysStupidSuff 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I doubt she would being collapsing purposely for attention, when such inability could lead to her missing out on opportunities.

[–]Spungo1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that's just a human thing in general. Once you reach other humans, you can collapse because you've reached people who can help you.

[–]mydogcanpurr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That autocorrect is hilarious

[–]diock1000 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is what happens when political correctness becomes more important than the combat effectiveness.

[–]game_r[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just don't get how men accepted that women could join the army/ police in the 70s. That was over 4 decades ago, WWII veterans were still alive and the cold war hadn't de-escalated yet. Was everybody on fucking LSD and cocaine in the 70s? lol

[–]fuu999 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Truth is that hippie generation didn't give a shit, fucked everything up and is happy living from a retirement you can pay

[–]TheInevitableHulk 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ehh I really want to see one of these feminist nations push for +50% female military, it will fail horribly.

[–]Raeksis 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I can't wait for the next war that will require conscription. Imagine the clusterfuck involved with this female oriented culture. I don't think these sjw will be calling equality anymore when they're being forced to fight

[–]game_r[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What really makes my blood boil is that in my country men have a 9-month mandatory unpayed conscription, yet women can have military/ police careers, but are not required to be conscripted. Either women are useless in the army or not. This perpetual duality of victim/ strong women is everything that's wrong with feminism.

[–]divorcedbp 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So military conscription is considered something that only men can do.

I wonder, during a time of war and national survival, if we could discover something else that took 9 months that only women could do? It would enforce equality - it's only fair to require a similar sacrifice.

[–]Xlasingx 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

tonight at eleven..

infantries returning from the front lines.. sadly none of the female soldiers, made it back..

[–]JoeBender1 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Body armor weighs 50 pounds or more ... so she can't move around in uniform. Because the uniform in a combat zone includes armor.

[–]Oz70NYC 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

In the USMC, a standard battle kit weighs on average 150-175lbs.

[–]JoeBender1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was referring to the body armor alone as being 50 lbs. nothing else. Just armor.

[–]SilverslawPOG 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sappy plates and kevlar and stuff is like 30 pounds

[–]JoeBender1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

IBAS is 50 lbs. and it would be SAPPI plates

[–]SilverslawPOG 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh sorry thought you ment sappy plates and the marines never taught me how to spell 😔

[–]JoeBender1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Army taught me how to spell. And the last version of body armor we wore in Iraq weighed 50 lbs for just the vest and plates.

[–]MisterDorimant 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

girls are not strong, independent, and empowered.

girls are weak, dependent, and powerless.

  • weak physically, they did not evolve the same bone and muscle structure as Men.
  • dependent, they did not evolve to survive on their own.
  • powerless, because they are slaves to their emotions and whimsical nature.

[–]New_User1984 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keep in mind that this is not the bell curved average female either. This is the tip top of the in shape females.....

Let that sink in.

[–]geocitiesuser 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was painful to watch... I clicked back after the first collapse.

[–]Xlasingx 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i'm coming to save you brother!!

hunched over, can barely keep balance, rifle in the dirt, last time up, the barrel pointing at her face!

this fucking mess isn't going to save anything!

..and they applauded/cheered her!

fucking disgrace.

[–]realChebz 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

50lbs is nothing, I carry more when I go camping. And I'm just your average dweeb who's never been in the army. I though they had to carry 150lb or something? And still be able to fight afterwards?

[–]wordjedi 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

50lbs is nothing, I carry more when I go camping.

/arrrrr/ultralight would like a word

[–]mentalidade_logica 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same as female firemen, yes firemen do you have a problem? Lol.

[–]Oz70NYC 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

USMC StSgt here, and she sure as fuck ain't one of mine. The Crucible makes that shit look like a walk in a field of daisies on a warm spring day. I've had this discussion more times then I can count, and I stand by the ideal 100%...WOMEN HAVE NO PLACE IN US ARMED FORCES INFANTRY. I don't give a fuck what branch it is, Marine, Army, Navy or Air Force...women don't belong in the boots on the ground fighting force. Period. Support roles? Yes...I vouch for that completely. Comms, Operations, Logistics, Intel, yea...no problem with them their. But boots on the ground direct action? No fucking way. In a combat zone she'd be dead as a fucking tree stump, and have put her squad at risk to try and retrieve her corpse.

Plus this foot march was to qual for her EFMB? Bitch you can't handle 12 miles with a 50lbs kit on your back? FUUUUUUUUUUUCK THAT. A boot could be hit, with life and death depending on his medic getting to him in time, and this broad collapses because she can't carry 50lbs 12 miles.

[–]WhistlingAlong 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women will never be equal to men in every aspect of their sad mental disorder.

[–]ClownstickV0nFckface 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Well that was painful to watch.

But I gotta say: Kudos to her for getting back up every time! Takes a lot of willpower, I respect that.

[–]EMPIRE_OF_THE_CLOUDS 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (5子コメント)

She is being constantly encouraged by her peers and instructors. They are pushing, motivating, and driving her to get up and walk the last 30 meters. This is the exact opposite of what most males in the military experience, which is constant ridicule and encouragement to give up, quit, and take the easy way out.

Willpower is pushing forward in spite of the environment around you, not because of it.

[–]diock1000 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Willpower is pushing forward in spite of the environment around you, not because of it.

I'm going to use that. Great point.

[–]ClownstickV0nFckface 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah that thought has crossed my mind as well. Men don’t get all the cheering she got. I thought: „wow, that is some nice ‚equality‘ right there“.

Still, she got back up after her body was failing on her, and that deserves respect - being cheered to or not, being a man or a woman.

[–]EMPIRE_OF_THE_CLOUDS 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't accept that her body was failing her. I think part of that was an act, an over-exaggeration of her fatigue to gain attention and sympathy. I don't have any respect for her.

Either a 12 mile hump with a 50lb ruck broke her completely, or she exaggerated it to get attention. Both are shameful.

[–]Xlasingx 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this is the correct response..

males are ridiculed, as opposed to princess..

if that were a male, he would have ended up on a bus, heading home..

[–]EnslavedOpethFan053 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I also respect her determination but again this isn't the person you want watching your back on the battlefield.

[–]GuidoBandito 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The enemy is not going to be cheering her on. They aren't going to be encouraging her in any way. So yeah, I wouldn't want her in the field struggling just to stay alive and having me or a fellow soldier dragging her through gun fire just to keep her that way.

[–]SaysStupidSuff 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, the threat of death would probably be a little bit more convincing, but

[–]BubbleGas 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Will power doesn't save your comrade in a battle scenario. I can respect her mental strength, but her physical strength just isn't there.

[–]Xlasingx 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

at one point, it looked as though she was just going to stay down, and maybe take a nap..

[–]RogerBateman 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

She is totally exhausted. We're the men?

[–]Reprogramming_Life 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

At the beginning of the video a man is finishing up and it's no big deal to him at all like he just took a lazy Sunday stroll. lmao

[–]Xlasingx 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

apparently inside the barrel of the weapon she stared into..

[–]lolz_69 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who cares. Men should have boycotted the corrupt, faggot-infested military a long time ago. Sit back (from a safe distance of course) and watch women fuck up another institution. Not my concern, it's not worth fighting for.

[–]Itisforsexy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a 5'5.2 inch tall, 135 lbs 27 year old man. I train for strength, not endurance; and even I could do this without breaking a sweat.

Come on. Society has to wakeup and accept the reality that sexual dimorphism is true. Even a small guy has orders of magnitude more testosterone running through his veins than the toughest of girls.

[–]lolApexseals 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

http://www.guns.com/2015/05/14/should-army-captains-really-be-praised-for-finishing-a-12-mile-ruck-march-video/

Now I'll admit that 12 miles is kind of a joke tbh. We did that as a corps requirement (core as in XVIII corps). 12 miles in 3 hours annual requirement. Not exactly hard, but I believe we had to do it with a 75lbs load in sand. (Sand makes a huge difference.) You should have seem how many men and women couldn't complete it...

But considering she was going for an expert field medical badge, which apparently has a 17% success rate.(men or women) Gotta admit, she's one of the few that did it, most badges like that don't have two different standards between the sexes. It's one standard for both. She also apparently had 14 minutes to spare to make the march.

So yeah, she struggled at the end, but she wasn't one of the 83% who don't make it to the end like that.

But then again, I recall the video has a few guys who just walk right past her to the finish lol.

[–]game_r[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean taking into account that 70% of the population in the US is fat, it's no coincidence that 87% couldn't cut it. I am not saying that men can perform better without effort. What I'm arguing is that the potential for men to become capable soldiers is very high compared to the almost nonexistent potential in women. Women essentially need to work hard just to catch up to an average male. If she was a man and worked just as hard, she would probably be a ranger or something.

That said, recruiters need to do quite better candidate screening, I see a lot of chubbies cheering her up in the video. lol

[–]lolApexseals 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh no, by no means are women good for combat roles where physical ability is crucial. I'm simply saying it's a high failure rate but she still made it.

Also, this is not the common man applying for said badge. It's the units best and most capable soldiers applying for this. The most intelligent and physically capable.

Like an infantryman going for airborne, air assault, ranger and special forces once he arrives at his unit. He has to prove to his leadership that he can make it, otherwise he's wasting everyone's time.

Same applies here, someone thought she was the best candidate from their unit, submitted a packet to be approved to attend the course work and was approved.

[–]lolApexseals 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, those folks aren't chubby, they're likely wearing something underneath their gortex coats to keep warm while standing around waiting for everyone to finish. Which makes them look big.

Instructors most likely administering the test. Instructors are most likely to be the most lean and fit out of everyone, they're the ones that set the standard and example for everyone attending as well as anyone that considers going.

If you had fat people running the show, nobody would likely bother going to the school as it doesn't look worthwhile.

[–]iongnil 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (9子コメント)

To be fair there's no way I could handle running 12 miles with a 50lb Bergen. It would kill me. But then that's why I never joined the forces.

[–]BubbleGas 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Most men can do it if you start off at a healthy weight and after 2-3 months of training. 50lbs isn't a crazy number. In the field infantry often carry 100lbs or more.

I just hope she wasn't allowed to join in this state.

[–]Eizieizz -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Please show me a link to this kind of weight in the military! I did mandatory service and i never saw a regular recruit carry more than 40 lbs.

[–]Miscrotesoft 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

https://mwi.usma.edu/the-overweight-infantryman/

Literally the first Google result for "infantry field weight", come on.

[–]Eizieizz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fascinating thank you, i was in the german army and only basic training so i never saw these kind of weights. But if the body armor alone weighs more than 30lbs in real combat it makes perfect sense.

[–]Spungo1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's always the extras that get you. You have a pack, plus a hat, plus armor, plus a gun, plus this, plus that. To make it worse, the armor is an insulator. This is like trying to do the Ironman competition while wearing a fur coat. Maybe not that extreme, but you get the idea.

I don't bother trying to exercise when it's too hot outside. I overheat immediately and need to drink water until my brain works again.

[–]Xlasingx 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

you slowly build yourself up and get used to it..

she didn't use the opportunities provided to her, to do this.. ..or is simply not capable..

take your pick, either one is bad enough to have her removed from military duties..

[–]sidel3 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

After training you can.

[–]sendnudesb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the easiest shit, look how "fatigued" the guy before her at the beginning of the video is..

[–]Reprogramming_Life 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I watched the video, laughed, got angry at how women are destroying our military strength, then it hit me. I do know of a way we can use women to be useful to our military. We should created all female R&R units. Their job will be to fuck all the male soldiers who need a release while they're on break or right before they come back from combat and on special occasions. As a part of the job requirements the females must either have their tubes tied or receive mandatory depo provera shots the entire time they are in the military. They also must stay in peak physical condition at all times, no excuses since they won't be having any kids. The final and most important requirement is the females within the unit must meet a satisfactory average rating for all the male soldiers that bang them. You know, so the women don't get lazy and not live up to their duty as American patriots. Also STD testing will be mandatory for these women on a regular basis. Now that's a woman I can respect, willing to take one or thousands for the team/country.

[–]Spungo1 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's actually not a bad idea. Each military branch should have professional prostitutes on the payroll. They would get a basic military salary plus fees earned.

I don't see why not. During vietnam, the VC actually used hookers to collect intelligence. It was amazingly effective. The VC probably knew more about troop movement than the people in Washington knew. It's incredible how the military did fuck all to stop this from happening. If they brought their own 10/10 super model hookers, that problem would go away.

[–]fuu999 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They'd only fuck chads. wait my bad, they are already doing that.

[–]topstrok2014[🍰] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not only that, but the women also need to clean the barracks and do the laundry -- including ironing.

[–]hollybegin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's a medic and an officer, supposed to be able to treat wounded soldiers after a progression (into hostile territory?). I remember her being hailed as an heroine, tv appearances, the whole nine yards....

[–]Wraeclast_Exile 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh big surprise here.

[–]Spungo1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was going to defend her because I know the military puts people through basic training just to be a secretary, but the video says it's for EFMB. EFMB is Expert Field Medical Badge. That's more on the level of being infantry, so it's not like being a secretary.

I'll give her props for making it though. I like to go on 3 hour hikes while carrying about 60 pounds in a backpack. Depending on the temperature outside, it can be quite difficult. Colder is easier.

[–]REDBEARD4-19-1775 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

HaahhhaahhhaaahhhaAhhhhhaahhhh not so easy dying for your country is it bitch

[–]shypl 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a pathetic excuse for a soldier. Either you can carry 50lbs+ or you can't. She can't. If there's a man doing it better then I'll pick the man 100% of the time. What a pathetic attempt

[–]themanbat 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Logically, there should be one minimum physical fitness standard. If the standard is low enough for fit women to pass that's fine, but that should be all the men need to pass too. Sure there are lots of jobs that don't require much physical strength in the military, but weak men can do those jobs just as well if not better, because you don't have to worry about them becoming pregnant and dropping out.

Auxiliary services for women and weak men aren't a bad idea either. But again the standard should be the same for everyone.

And naturally women in combat, unless it's a last resort, is utter stupidity. You don't send the coed B team to fight the all male A team.

[–]otakuiq 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not only did use the rifle to get up but she pointed it towards her face, also only 50 llbs? Utterly pathetic.

[–]BloodRainOnTheSnow 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Poor gun. She pointed it at her own head so many times I bet she'd shoot herself in actual combat. Fucking gun is worth more than this piece of shit.

[–]polini46 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

what is 50lbs in non-retard units?

[–]game_r[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

22.75kg, but why do you hate freedom?

[–]HeroicCunt 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Only 22,75 kg? What a weak soldier.

[–]Masher111 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats like 2 tank mines and an uniform. :-D

[–]uk_cuckold_hunter 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's approx the weight of a hambeast's left arse cheek.

[–]uk_cuckold_hunter 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's approx the weight of a hambeast's left arse cheek.

[–]robowriter 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Equality, let them stand or fall by themselves. Neither prop them up with false praise nor help them do anything. If you feel the need to serve someone volunteer and actually help.

[–]Hernes777 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am actually impressed with her, you have to keep in mind this is the end of a 12 mile march. Lots of men couldn't have done that.

[–]Poopsmith_McUnty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, who knows the situation, she may have been dehydrated or whatever. When I started bodybuilding I was weak as shit, curling 25lbs and squatting less than my own bodyweight. Everyone starts somewhere, training makes you stronger and she just needs more training. I can't fault anyone for attempting military service.

[–]MuleTeam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually, while I agree that women are pulling standards down, Wich is bad, I must admire her sand, 12 miles, 50lbs, 3 hours, that's a 4mph avg. That is studly not matter how you look at it.

[–]josh_gropin -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

you guys complain all the time that men have to serve and die in the military while women lounge at home with their cats and female privilege. but when a woman tries for a combat role and pushes herself across the finish line in this exercise despite falling down, you have this to say?

just go ahead and explain this contradiction to me in rational and logical terms.

*edit - also, how was she coming in RIGHT behind that other guy who walked across the line so effortlessly? again, use logical and rationality to explain this.

[–]DangZagnut 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The problem isn't women fighting for their country, the issue most have, I believe, is that they have a lower standard of fighting than men.

Either the standard applies to all, or isn't applied at all.

So if military necessity is hauling 50 lbs. of gear for 4 miles under 10 minutes, then that's what it takes. If you can't do that, why should women have an easier metric? because it literally exists just to politically include them.

[–]josh_gropin -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

ok, that's besides the point though. what i was saying is that mgtow and mras complain about how female privilege means that women don't have to die on the battlefield while men do. you're all upset about the PC inclusion of women in the military, but this person is actually offering her life the same way a male soldier would. so making fun of her is an example of BS hypocrisy.

[–]DangZagnut 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some individuals have issues with female privilege in society. But to blame all MGTOW philosophy like that is wrong.

I couldn't care less about women in the military, just explaining why people have an issue with "weaker" standards just to allow lesser individuals.

[–]game_r[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If women didn't constantly claim to be as strong as men, then no one would say that women should die for their country.

Women have no place in the military, the best female athlete in the world will be an average soldier at some tasks, while below average at other tasks (for example carrying big loads of weight).

In a short, men are stronger, faster, can be trained 3x as fast, have a much higher maximum potential (50lbs of extra muscle instead of 25lbs), have thicker bones, have 5x less chance of knee injury, and have less hygienic needs. Why would you pick any woman no matter how capable, when there is no shortage of males wiling to enlist and create a shitload of potential problems like fraternization, just to include a handful of women who may be capable in some tasks, while below average in others?

*edit - also, how was she coming in RIGHT behind that other guy who walked across the line so effortlessly? again, use logical and rationality to explain this.

The guy in front of her timed his average speed to finish 15 minutes early, it doesn't mean that he couldn't do it faster if his life depended on it. He could probably have jogged it in 2 hours, but would have been exhausted in the end. It's hiking, not a sprint.

[–]josh_gropin -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women have no place in the military

ok cool, agreed, so we should expect the "women have so much privilege because they don't put their lives on the line in the military like men do" memes to end then, right?

also, isn't it results that matter? they crossed the line at nearly the same time, even if she is technically 3x slower, with 5x the chance of a knee injury as you said. but since we're giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying that he could have done it much faster under pressure, we should shave off part of his time because of good intentions. sounds like a merit-based system.

[–]game_r[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I personally have never claimed it, but some people may disagree with me. Women worked in factories to produce weapons and ammunitions during WWII, it's not like they need to be in the field to contribute.

[–]otakuiq 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This woman is a danger to the people around her, she should not be in the military.