A note on method: conversations about contentious political issues would be more productive on the whole if people made an effort to explicitly distinguish between wrong and trivially wrong. I disagree e.g. with people advocating for stronger legal restrictions on hate speech in the U.S., but it’s not an obvious conclusion - they have compelling arguments, I had to do intellectual work to arrive at my current position, and while I’m very confident, given sufficient evidence I can see myself being convinced that they’re right.
Trivially wrong isn’t the same thing as obviously morally reprehensible. My traditionalist Catholic friends are without exception among the kindest, most ethically engaged people I know (though admittedly I’m friends with an unusual subset of traditionalist Catholics); this doesn’t mean I’m going to spend any seriously entertaining that their belief system is correct. That said, most obviously morally reprehensible positions are trivially wrong.
Different communities can and will set different standards for what’s trivial and what’s not, all I’m advocating is that the distinction be recognized in the discourse. I can think of any number of conversations that would be much more civil if we had a better way of acknowledging that positions can be well-supported, reasonable, and ultimately incorrect.
Extra credit question: what does “correct belief system” even mean over and above “conducive to virtue and flourishing”?
I was going to genuinely ask what correct metaethical beliefs would even sort of mean, but I looked it up on wikipedia...
Not endorsing top post, but this.
who decides what constitutes virtue, do you think that “flourishing” has a one size fits all universal definition, if so...
so like the discourse version of http://www.theproofistrivial.com/sounds like a bad idea
Extra extra credit: what does “conducive to virtue and flourishing” mean in the absence of a correct belief system about...
My own beliefs oscillate between atheist and observant Jew. In either case, Catholics are making truth claims about the...
Extra credit question: what does “correct belief system” even mean over and above “conducive to virtue and flourishing”?