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"however it is worth noting that that neither the t34-85"
From their introduction until the end of the war: 29,430 T-34/85s were made.

"or the sherman 76"
By V-E day half the operational shermans in Europe had a 76 mm pecker.

"the germans used excellent guns such as the kwk40 and the kwk36 to combat the huge amount of armour the allies used to support their infantry which is why their guns had good he"
Kwk 40 can't shoot adequate HE without blowing its own gun off.
Kwk 36 I'll assume is the 88 and not 37 in which case: Same issue as above.

" just not from as far away."
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/81262-world-war-ii-gun-penetration-tables/
Keep trying.

part 2: the germans used excellent guns such as the kwk40 and the kwk36 to combat the huge amount of armour the allies used to support their infantry which is why their guns had good he but poor ap properties. so within the panzer 4's lifetime it could penetrate both the sherman and the t34 but they could penetrate it, just not from as far away. again, i dont wank over pictures of hitler i just find German technology to be interesting, you're obviously more biased to daddy stalin and uncle sam than i am to hitler.

from doing a quick bit of research it is clear that the penetration qualities of the kwk 40 was far in excess of the 75 and 76.2 on the t34 and regular sherman while it is about on par with the US 76 and less effective overall than the 85mm on the t34-85. however it is worth noting that that neither the t34-85 or the sherman 76 were fielded in large numbers until the allied invasion of normandy and the basic variants were still in use in 1945. on the other hand both the t34 and the sherman's guns had excellent he shells which fitted with doctrine. this is the main difference between allied and german tanks.

" that is just not true, especially as a tank can angle its armour to bounce shots even easier and to increase its effective thickness"
If it were world of tanks it'd still go right in because you'd be under 1km.

"also lets not forget that the l48 and l43 could actually take out any russian tank apart from the IS model tanks up to 1000m."
Mod 1942 and T-34/85s would bounce the l48 more often than not just like Shermans.

"o finish it off here is a quote from a british sherman tank crewman "In open combat we never had a chance.""
Versus Panthers which would rarely present their side armour for obvious reasons.

"lso try and remove some of the hate from your comment. ive been commenting in this section because i love a good debate but please leave your insults at the door next time :)"
It ain't a insult if all you do is wank to german propaganda. Gun penetration data shows clearly the 75 mm L48 was a middling gun and the L70 had horrific issues in tight areas due to its length.

First of all yes i am biased towards german equipment during the war as i personally find it the most interesting (im not a neo nazi or anything XD) " The T-34 Mod 1940 could punt a shell through the front of a Panzer 4 up to the 80mm uparmor at around 1 km and a Mod 1942 could do that to any Panzer 4 ever fielded." that is just not true, especially as a tank can angle its armour to bounce shots even easier and to increase its effective thickness. also lets not forget that the l48 and l43 could actually take out any russian tank apart from the IS model tanks up to 1000m. to finish it off here is a quote from a british sherman tank crewman "In open combat we never had a chance." also try and remove some of the hate from your comment. ive been commenting in this section because i love a good debate but please leave your insults at the door next time :)

They were vastly inferior. The T-34 Mod 1940 could punt a shell through the front of a Panzer 4 up to the 80mm uparmor at around 1 km and a Mod 1942 could do that to any Panzer 4 ever fielded.

The Sherman was also never called a Tommy cooker by anyone outside maybe german gun crews that set about making sure they'd burn out after their crews bailed and were long gone. And the 76 mm gun you said was similar to the 75 l48 in performance... was actually closer to the L70 as the l48 couldn't reliably breach the front of a tiger 1 at combat ranges, thus would also often bounce off the front of even early shermans, while the 76 would go in every single time and that's without talking HVAP.

Anything else? Or shall I let you masturbate to Rommel's picture again?

@The Romanian Reaver Just because they were overenginered does not mean they were inferior on the battlefield and Shermans were far more dangerous to be inside which is why they were nicknamed tommy cookers

@Alexander because certain virgins think German tanks weren't overengineered death traps.

@Alexander because wehraboos like me need to be put in ur place

why the fuck is everyone arguing about tanks