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[–]SquidwardGhost 85 ポイント86 ポイント  (3子コメント)

So fucking beta and cringeworthy I swear and to think this would have been me a couple of years ago. Goddamn thank fuck I'm not a cuck or didn't turn out to be one lol

[–]hyugafan 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same. Thank god for the red pill.

[–]DontTreadOnSnek 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup, this would have been me a year ago, ignoring the United Nations of Red Flags just because some woman told me not to worry about anything.

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know if I was ever that bad, but I've been close. It is pretty cringey to see how out of touch this guy is.

[–]reddttt 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (14子コメント)

More like a cuck 101: how to let your girlfriend friendly cuddle with her ex and accept it because she's independent and it's totally literally ooh emm gee not cheating

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well based on the info, I would see it like this. Chance of something sexual: probably 90%. Chance of his story being correct: 10%. If they did actually hold hands, then that's pretty fucking intimate, and it's still a breakup.

[–]Truedemocracy2 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Its breakup zone no matter what for sure. Lied about a party and not coming clean? Break up

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, it honestly doesn't even matter really.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's not as if it's inconceivable that women cuddle platonically, even with exes - it also works fine as bait to keep orbiters around.

But the overall frame here (her trickle-truthing and her insistence on him not keeping tabs on her whereabouts) is more than a bit fishy.

[–]Truedemocracy2 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can honestly see her and her ex not having sex here (though likely isn't the case)

But her throwing a party and not telling the boyfriend along with her not admiting to it until after he said he knew shows that the relationship needs to be killed

[–]JoJoXPilled 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

OP lost his frame when he saw his girlfriend crying!

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am talking about the frame of the situation, not his frame.

[–]reddttt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I know, awalt is tattooed in my brain. But even so, her actions were a consequence about being in a "relationship" with a weak male devoid of testosterone

[–]RPStone 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

No healthy man with an ounce of testosterone would have anymore than fuck benefits from this slut.

[–]reddttt 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, ltr is trp on hardmode and a ltr with this hoe which has more red flags than a missile parade in north korea is almost like voluntarily cutting your own balls with a plastic dull knife

But even then, that guy has his share of blame because he acts like a fucking insect

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. Seeing examples like this opens my eyes up more.

[–]Memetologist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Am I the only one laughing at """"cuddle"""" it seems pretty obvious to me that they had sex...

[–]Willkuer_ 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Jim is her orbiter and she gave him a bit of carrot to keep him around.

I don't think she fucked Jim but the way she plays with men indicates she slept with some other men (probably some more alpha-type than her BB and Jim). She now has the confirmation that nothing bad happens if she sleeps around. She just needs to cry and everything will dissolve.

Btw. I think I read somewhere that crying women will change your hormonal system so that it is easier for you to start your own hamster. He is not aware, he is manipulated by her, and he can not trust his own body. How is he supposed to solve this issues?

[–]DubbleFUPAwitCheez 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Being around crying women lowers your testosterone. In essence making you more female and awakening the hamster.

[–]Gawernator 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you have a source for this

[–]DubbleFUPAwitCheez 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dr. Bing has the answer. Don't ask Dr. Goo-Gal, he'll sell your info.

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's actually a really interesting theory.

[–]BestSC86 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Don't know...you seem to be letting your hatred and distrust of women make your hamster run away with you as much as the dude is letting his beta insecurity run away.....honestly

"Why the fuck would this guy lie about holding hands and cuddling with his girlfriend"

You don't know? Really? The damn dude has been orbiting this girl for nearly 3 years, a girl who was dating him when she got with BF and you know that everyone in the group knows that this dude has a severe case of one-itis for this girl. But you can't figure out why this insecure fuck might run around claiming that his one-itis finally came around and held his hand and 'cuddled' with him? Really?

Honestly they all sound immature as hell, but don't think she did much with this orbiter because as TRP will tell you....he isn't a sexual option. She sees him as a GF with a penis not anyone who is going to stick anything in her pussy. And just as likely this thirsty orbiter was head over heels that his one-itis went outside with him and went all "it is happening, my beloved is starting to like me" bragging to his friends.

If the girl wanted to cheat with the orbiter, she not have disappeared for less than an hour at some pitiful get together with friends, it would have been she disappeared for the entire weekend and rode his dick for three days.

[–]KarmaEnthusiast 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah the story really didn't sound like she actually cheated to me. Sounds like the Jim guy wanted something to brag about and was extra apologetic since it didn't happen. Both are betas, the girl is probably a 6/10 and I'd be more pissed she didn't tell me she was having a party while I was away.

[–]MarangoniConv 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This sounds more reasonable. Jim doesn't have better SMV than OP, otherwise she'd have been with Jim, right? In other words, Jim is beta in her eyes--a gf with penis--like you said. But we have to be careful here, beta guys do have sex, just like how a beta elephant seal surreptitiously engage in coitus with a female under an alpha. It is a way for females to secure their backups. So sex with Jim was not really off the tables.

But I am inclined towards agreeing with you that she wouldn't take risk of getting caught over Jim; he wouldn't incite emotions in her enough to bypass her fear, unless Jim changed--became bulkier or something. Who knows? All I can say is you should set boundary with your girls, private time with any man should be a deal-breaker, no matter how platonic their relationship is.

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought about that, since Jim sounds pretty damn beta according to OP, but I also wondered how accurate his impressions are. Everything else this guy says show he has absolutely no social awareness, so I wonder if he just misunderstood the situation. And even if it was just some orbitor making up a desperate lie, it's still a fucked up thing to hold a party when bf leaves and invites men over she knows are infactuated with her, and then goes on a private excursion with them. Not acceptable either way.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_B00BlEZ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you are completely right. The situation sounds immature. If I had to guess these people have to be 18-20. The main issue in this entire story is naïveté. There sounds like a complete lack of understanding of how relationships work which will only develop thru time and experience for everyone (not necessarily with each other). I see a lot of issues here but none that are sad.

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the title said he was 21 and she was 20.

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's a total possibility you are correct, but ask yourself this. Why the fuck would a male orbitor LIE about HOLDING HANDS?! Unless the dude just wanted to get into a fight with OP, it wouldn't make any sense. It wouldn't improve his status, it would only hurt his prospects with the girl, and it could actually be a massive reptuation ruiner. Do you think girls want to hook up with a guy who lies about holding hands with girls? Who knows what else he will say?

I personally don't see any incentive for the guy to make this lie, while also being apologetic about it, unless something else happened. For him to go for a walk and claim they were SOMEWHAT intimate, seems absolutely insane.

You think it's my hamstering in this case? This is a girl who without any notification to her boyfriend, throws a fucking party at her house right after he leaves, inviting men over, including men that she knows have a thing for her. Then she completely denies anything happened, when the guy presents his own fucked up story.

[–]BestSC86 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Young dudes do that level of shit all the time.....he told his friend who then told the BF.

I get you are bitter toward women and want this girl to have fucked this dude but it is simply unlikely. If she wanted to fuck the dude, she would have just invited him ALONE over to her house and fucked his brains out for 3 days without you ever knowing it happened it, not invite you load of cucks over then go outside for 45 mins with him in front of all the noisy nellys around to go running to her BF. She threw a party with their friends as evidenced by all the other of their mutual friends around for the BF to ask about what happened.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've decided to have a slow deliberate conversation and see how it goes.

That a boy! COMMUNICATION. Talk. Cry on her shoulder. That will make her moist all over.

Want proof?

My girlfriend has been perfect to me...She hates cuddling.

Yes of course she does! She hates cuddling...with you.

I feel shitty for breaking up a good friendship that my girlfriend had

Cuck!

[–]2max_peenor 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Notice that her version of "communication" is to start crying.

[–]Sara_Solo 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's ok you guys they only cuddled and held hands under the stars.

[–]askmrcia 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

To be honest they probably only did. But I still wouldn't be cool with it regardless.

And I say that because I'm around alot of women that have tons of thirsty dudes following them.

Just recently this girl I know calls this one guy her best guy friend. Yes everyone with an ounce of intelligence knows that this guy likes her despite this girl having a kid with her current boyfriend.

One time at a party, the girl was crying over some drama shit and they cuddled. That's literally all they did. Pathetic and creepy on the guy's part I know. The guy is friendzoned hard. Hell one of my best friends have women come over to his apartment often. Those women friendzoned him, but they gladly eat dinner with him for some reason. Well the reason is because they like the attention.

I honestly don't think the girl cheated, she just walked with him for attention.

Now with all that said, I don't know if I break up with the chick over this. Depends on how hot she is and how much sex she is giving me lol.

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You could be right. She may just be desperate for attention, and likes to string guys along, so she held hands and cuddled, but kept it super light. Either way, it's still break up worthy.

[–]AllahHatesFags 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Blue pill beta OP will probably be raising Chad's kid in a few years.

[–]1ozaku7 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Worse is that he left just for 5 days and GF decides to throw a party without telling him. This stinks like an excuse to invite Jim over to her place and get laid in her own bed. "I didn't invite only Jim, but lots of others too!".

Classic hamster.

Also.

So when I confronted my girlfriend about it she said she didn't know what I was talking about.

Denial

So I told her everything I've told you guys and she explained to me her side of the story. She told me that it was completely platonic and she has no feelings for him (Which I believe) and he has way overblown the situation.

Trickling the truth and playing it down.

So the male gets super apologetic and still sticks with his story.

Male confirm what really happened.

She broke down crying and it made me feel bad that I didn't go to her first.

Cries because she was caught.

First she seeks it out, then she denies, and only started to feel guilty when she was caught. Women will only feel guilty when they are caught... Or rather, they cry because they got caught and have to deal with the consequences.

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good emphasis on the trickle, I didn't highlight it well. You see her slowly reveal more info to explain the situation, once she realizes he has more info.

[–]1ozaku7 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women will always omit information from you to keep the relationship intact. She will always downplay anything AFTER it happened, not during or before it. Just look at research and statistics how many men got cucked. Real, hard, statistics from scientific research. A woman that was supposed to have a lifechanging event with you, having a baby together, and she decides that there is nothing better than to fuck you over so astronomically by having a child from someone else and let you pay for it with your money, energy and time. It's easy for women to cheat, they will hamster is away, and there is no reason for a man to not cheat on their girlfriend or wives. In their world, you are faithful, and that's what matters.

The odds of women cheating is atleast double of that. If they have the guts to get pregnant with another man and pretend its yours, just imagine how much easier it is to just casually hookup with another guy without the intent to get fucking pregnant. The emotional state of the women, the desire to have a baby, completely overrides anything. The only thing she cares about getting as much sperm as possible in her babychamber and getting pregnant.

So the only right choice for a man that wants to get children with his woman, is to dick her any opportunity he has, and demand a DNA test after birth. Do not sign the birth certificate unless you get positive DNA results that the kid is yours, regardless how much you trust her or what background she has. This little test will determine whether you will waste your life on a cunt and son of a bitch.

[–]xeneize93 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking detective over here!

[–]TunedtoPerfection 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congrats BF you just confirmed in your girls eyes that she can:

Take advantage of any situation Cheat pretty much anytime

Then cry and you'll believe and forgive her.

P.S. I have literally heard the phrase "no I'm not with a guy I would cheat on you I love you." come out of a girls lips who had my dick in her moth 2 second earlier.

AWALT

[–]TonyZ554 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just gonna say that cuddling and holding hands is not an innocent activity. It's actually very intimate, or at least it always has been for me.

[–]Redasshole[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, it shows she is emotionnally invested with that guy.

[–]Redasshole[🍰] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know what, my approach is :

if she makes my life worse, I don't care what she did, I leave her.

Why does this guy cares about what happened? This girl makes him sick, that's all he needs to know to decide to leave.

[–]keysomea 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (9子コメント)

As I assumed the TRP knowledge was held back by AFCs and white knights on that sub.

Here we see a classic example of a Nice Guy and insecure too. What the hell is going on with intra-gender dynamics? How come this guy is so goddamn blind to not at least breakup with this chick. I mean not to even breakup due to the fact that she must likely cheated on her but as way for him to develop some self-respect.

[–]RPStone 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How come this guy is so goddamn blind to not at least breakup with this chick. I mean not to even breakup due to the fact that she must likely cheated on her but as way for him to develop some self-respect.

Because he risks being labeled "an asshole" (a nice guy's greatest fear) if he breaks up with her without undeniable facts, evidence, and truth from her.

Even still he may not leave her because he fears the memories of being single and being rejected by every girl he tries to win with kindness. To him, she is a special snowflake simply because she puts up with his weak behavior.

However, his snowflake will always naturally seek alpha cock every chance she gets (ie. throwing a party while he's on vacation.) and end up cuddling an orbiter if one is not found.

Too bad one of us wasn't at that party.

[–]SJHammer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Blue pill me would have done this stupid shit. What's AFC?

[–]dgillz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Average frustrated chump. All acronyms are covered in the sidebar.

[–]boyifyoudontiswear 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

AFC was removed from the sidebar for being too much of an old PUA term, should be reinstated for instances like these

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Here's what really happened, in one sentence:

"While away from her boyfriend, this girl set out to spend some alone time with an ex to see if he was better than her current boyfriend."'

It doesn't really matter who held whose hand, who cuddled who, or whether they fucked or not. This woman set out with the deliberate goal of cheating or leaving if the opportunity was a good one.

Maybe the opportunity wasn't. Maybe "Jim" sucked at life and she didn't do anything. Maybe the opportunity was just an opportunity for fun. Maybe she fucked Jim but he wasn't a good relationship prospect so she hid it and decided to keep dating her boyfriend.

Whatever did or didn't happen, Jim wasn't available or wasn't worthwhile as a new boyfriend, so she stayed with her current boyfriend after illicitly exploring the possibility with Jim while her boyfriend was away.

This is just how the game is played. Every time a girl interacts with a guy, there are subtle, innocent probes for sexual and romantic availability being fired from both sides. 99 percent of the time, these don't go anywhere. One side isn't attracted, or one side is attached and more attracted to his or her current partner, and those little probes don't even look like probes, more like slightly awkward conversation. Sometimes, the probes look exactly like probes, complete with cuddles and sharing your feelings since the boyfriend isn't around to stop it.

[–]79rustyk10 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was hard for me to even read this.

[–]DeathToTheZog 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That relationship sub is a black hole of male despair. I try to subtly lend a hand to some of the serious ones, but you get down voted to hell. Mods will ban you quick too.

If a girl posts then the responses are always hand coddling. A guy posts, he gets cucked. Told hes in the wrong.

[–]victordmor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel for this guy. Doesn't have been enlightened yet. Someone bring him to TRP asap.

[–]Truedemocracy2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Good god this is like a blue print guide on everything this sub warns against lmao

I lost it at the girls water works and the guy feeling guilty. Common weapon with chicks - cry and make the guy feel bad when he was 100% in the right. Also the fact that she didn't come clean until all cards were laid on the table is pretty damning evidence overall.

What a spineless twat, and she will never respect him again after this

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've found reading this sub is helpful for a certain perspective, but I get so much utility out of reading about someone seeing through the lens of an extreme BP. Really is a good reality check.

[–]Truedemocracy2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It really is, as many here were at some point similar to that guy

[–]Cool_Mob 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This goes in the "Degenerate Autistic" section of bluepill.

Heck if I didn't fucking know about trp I won't be even close to this dumb and miserable.

[–]TheEmperorD 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think she cheated but if somebody has to text me on my vacation that they suspect she is, for me that would be enough for a soft next.

I confronted my girlfriend about it she said she didn't know what I was talking about. So I told her everything I've told you guys and she explained to me her side of the story. She told me that it was completely platonic and she has no feelings for him and he has way overblown the situation. All she wants from Jim is to be his friend and nothing more

Trickle truth.

She broke down crying and it made me feel bad that I didn't go to her first

Fuck that.

[–]AllahHatesFags 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've been banned on there for posting Red Pill truths to these hapless betas. The mods there are blue pill cucks.

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, the truth hurts some times. It's unfortunate because there were like 2-3 comments at the very bottom that gave pretty solid advice.

[–]_Inarla 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is unbelievable. How do people like this exist.

[–]Throwawaysteve123456[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No idea, I am going to send the guy a PM to this thread.

[–]Redasshole[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They wonder that about us as well.

[–]powerbaseballfan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whatever happened to your dad red asshole

[–]1OneRedSock 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just wish I hadn't assumed so much.

He'll wish he hadn't assumed so much every time until the time he wish he had assumed as much.