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Can I ban *all* bots?! (self.modhelp)

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One of the subs I moderate is getting flooded by annoying bots. Ban one, and a few days later another one doing the exact same thing is there. It's a never ending battle. There are a few bots I find useful, but at this point I'm tired of having to constantly ban bots that post pictures of kittens, for example.

Is there a way to ban ALL the bots?

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[–]gschizas 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (12子コメント)

No, there isn't. It's impossible to know if a user on the other side of the fence is a bot or not, since the API is used by both bots and mobile applications (which account for more than 50% of reddit's traffic anyway) - and apparently, in the near future, from the desktop web site as well (just a guess, but it does seem that's the way this is going).

That being said, try https://www.reddit.com/r/BotBust/, it seems to be doing a good job.

[–]TwinkleTard 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (11子コメント)

One item to note is the creator of this bot does not let it run in NSFW subreddits.

[–]Dice24 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (10子コメント)

...Why the fuck not?

[–]GayGiles 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Personal policy decision driven mainly by the fact that I don't want to have to deal with loads of gay porn when working on my bots.

I set up u/BotBustNSFW which is kinda working, but it's not as automated as u/BotBust.

[–]Dice24 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sounds stupid. Why does he have to watch gay porn while working on his bots?

[–]GayGiles 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well I started adding that bot to most of mine, which meant that there was undoubtedly a higher proportion of gay nsfw subs rather than straight subs. But I don't see why he'd come across any of the actual content.

[–]messipro -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey! Why don't you temporarly SFW your sub, invite the bot, and then re-NSFW it. That'll show the stupid bot creator.

[–]OMGitsLunaa 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah! Punish the creator for providing a great and free service by directly going against the one thing he asks for!

[–]gschizas 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The code is open source, so you could use the exact same code. Unfortunately botbust keeps all bots in its list of friends (so it's not public), but you could read the list from the public list of banned bots.

[–]GayGiles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nope. The original bot as-is rejects invites from nsfw subreddits, I'm just running my version with the nsfw aspect removed & because reading from the existing banlist was linked with changing flairs I've let it grab everything that was already there & I'll add future ones manually if I need to.

[–]gschizas 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nope. The original bot as-is rejects invites from nsfw subreddits

Sorry I wasn't clear. Of course you would have to modify the non-NSFW stuff.

But I agree that a much better solution for BotBust would be to write the list into a public wiki page, and allow other botbust clones read off of that; not only for the reasons you can't use it, but also for reasons of control and trust.

[–]GayGiles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well as you said, the current banlist is still public. It's just handled via flairs. The issue, for me, is that I barely know what I'm doing with this sorta thing so the fact that adding new bots to the banlist (friends, specifically) is linked to changing the flairs in r/BotBust was an issue. Obviously my bot can't access r/BotBust.

And I can't be arsed to set up my own banlist using the same method, so it ended up being easier to just let the bot grab the current banlist from r/BotBust & I'll worry about the rest later.

[–]gschizas -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's actually handled by posts, and the flairs on those posts, but yeah, close enough.

The list of bots that are being monitored are kept in the list of the bot's friends, as far as I can tell.

EDIT: There seem to be just 328 posts in this subreddit, and it goes back 10 months, when the bot user was created, so it seems it's not that many. Out of the 328 posts, 324 are bots, and they've been assigned flairs accordingly.

Here's the aggregate (obviously I have the full list, but I'm hesitant to publish it. I'm probably too cautious/paranoid):

Status Count
/r/spam 2
Already Banned 1
Already Banned! 2
Banned! 242
Deleted 2
For Review 3
Not a Bot 13
Service Bot 21
Shadowbanned 10
Subreddit Bot 13
Suspended 9
Unbanned 6

[–]TheOnlyPyroMain 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/botsrights

[–]powerchicken 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lobby for the standardisation of /wiki/robots pages or live with the fact that you have to manually ban bots.

[–]Schiffy94 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you're that annoyed you could just make a "no bots" rule and encourage people to report them.

[–]ClearlyCoder 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I made a bot for this purpose. Come check it out!

[–]sloppy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What you can do, is search here for automod scripts to limit postings of new members till they have reached a certain point either in postings or in karma. Another choice might be to limit new members amounts of posts

[–]V2Blast 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem with the first part is that certain bots consistently get upvoted (despite adding nothing to the discussion), and the admins no longer ban "novelty bots" so mods are forced to pick up the slack.

[–]SackHandMan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

D E S T R O Y A L L H U M A N S

[–]Sqrlchez -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If there was a way to ban all bots, it would have been done reddit wide.