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One thing I dont get about relationships...its confusing me (self.MGTOW)

baekhyun6 が 投稿

Something Im dying to know.

From what Ive seen, women want a man who has looks, money, a shiny car, buys gifts for her, puts her as a priority, gives her all his time, is loyal, honest...like, those are some SERIOUS demands. But what do they have to offer in exchange? Nothing. Or maybe more demands. But thats it.

So why would any man put himself in a relationship with a useless creature? It cant be the sex thing, right? Cause you can still fap or hire hookers who cost less than a gf.

I need answers

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[–]DangZagnut 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't, in fact I think this entire sub doesn't either.

I'd rather have all those shiny toys for me.

[–]mgtowguynow 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pussy.

And even then it's not guaranteed. See the DeadBedrooms sub for more information.

[–]project_mayhem_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think you know the answers already.

[–]baekhyun6[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I dont, thats why Im asking

[–]project_mayhem_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

if you buy a hooker, what do you expect from her? if you hire a surrogate mother, and afterwards a nanny, how should those women have to treat you? if you pay a girl to clean your house, what rules govern the relationship between the two of you?

the men who attempt the protect and provide role as a means of entering a relationship with a woman are the men who don't realize that women have voted away their own right to enter into enforceable agreements to do these things. further, these men do not realize that women have the ability to reinterpret their own memory of events to protect their own emotional states. a woman can shit on your whole life to pursue a nonexistent opportunity to ride strange cock post wall, blame it 100% on you, and hand wave away decades of sacrifice on your part as, "what you were supposed to do anyway". men still pursuing a beta mating strategy are the ones who do not realize this.

[–]doubleduty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sex, and the idea of having a partner to go through the journey of life with together. Also if you want kids, you kind of need a relationship.

[–]baekhyun6[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

you can adopt kids

[–]doubleduty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kids are better off having both a mother and a father.

[–]InsomniacHornet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Society tells a man that he needs a woman to fulfill his life. Gives him a map of how to live his life. Get a good job, find a girl, get married, have kids, etc. when in reality women offer nothing to men besides the option to reproduce and sex which can be found cheaper elsewhere without having to have a relationship.

[–]vigilantasshole 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a very complicated issue. My opinion is simply that Men historically don't need women to survive. It's almost the exact opposite that has been true for a very long time. Because of this, women tried to make themselves useful. So as to gain a certain amount of protection, security, and yes even affection.

As society became softer and easier to survive, as production of food became more plentiful. Many women felt they no longer needed men. They had police for protection, grocery stores for food production, liberal and social programming teaching them of the evils of the western man. Basically they no longer need us.

Men never needed women, we wanted them. We wanted that moments peace, to feel safe at home and let our guards down. My natural stance is aggressive, and I have always been temperamental. So for me I enjoyed women because it allowed me to relax, and not feel the edge that comes naturally when two alphas are occupying the same space. I have no need or want for a woman who behaves as a man. And in my opinion no man should.

Don't hate women for being selfish cunts, simply understand what their motivations are. Don't be fooled by their crocodile tears, live your best life. If you meet a woman worth spending some time with, go for it. But remember the realities of the world you live in. You don't need them, not now. Not after a nuclear war, they need you.

[–]silive 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Social conditioning just like religion. You know, terms like life-long partner, soul mate, everlasting love, relationship (aka manipulation game). In short, all the Disney nonsense. Plus, the societal pressure trying to enforce the uniformity. These are the best answers I can give you.