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Instead of saying "hopefully" I sometimes say "inshallah," the Arabic word for "God willing", just to fuck with ignorant right wing people. (self.Anarchism)

ceramicfiver- /r/divestment が 投稿

Just a little fun thing I do to annoy ignorant right wing people, or even liberals who think they aren't racist.

I even programmed my phone and computer to replace the words "hope" and "hopefully" with "inshallah".

It's not a perfect translation so be careful with your usage but it often works.

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[–]xxstillremainsxx 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That will show them

[–]is_a_goat 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm not Arabic, but I've heard it used as a way to shrug off responsibility. E.g. if someone asks: "Will that project be finished soon?", reply "Inshallah." If god wills it, it will be done. God's will is all, I have no say in it, so relax.

Whereas the english "god willing" I've only heard to mean "as long as something unexpected doesn't happen".

[–]Awale-Ismail 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm of an ancestrally Muslim background and grew up in the Arabian Peninsula and I'll say that this is not necessarily often the case. If someone uses it like this:

Will that project be finished soon?", reply "Inshallah."

They don't really mean to shun responsibility, in my experience. It's just a way of saying "I will try my best to get it done but God's will has the final say in whether or not I will.".

In my experience, it's usually a humility thing. You're just making an effort to remind yourself that this is still mainly in God's hands (i.e. God could make you keel over before you complete the project). It doesn't really mean you yourself won't make efforts to do what you must / take responsibility.

[–]ErnieMaclan 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Does Allahu Akbar fill a similar roll? Like you nail a job interview or something but you say "God is great" rather than focusing the credit on yourself?

[–]lal0cur4 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've never actually heard a Muslim say Allahu akbar outside of a religious context, and I know lots of Muslims. They got me saying alhamdulillah though haha

[–]ErnieMaclan -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe that's the phrase I was thinking of.

[–]Awale-Ismail 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The use of "Allahu Akbar" can vary. But a lot of people basically use it when something good happens. I often jokingly use it when something goes my way, for instance. But people use it in other ways like saying it when they see something beautiful or what have you (praising god for what they saw, basically); "Mashallah" is more often used in this case, however.

I've never actually heard a Muslim say Allahu akbar outside of a religious context, and I know lots of Muslims. They got me saying alhamdulillah though haha

Yes, its usage is honestly rather rare when compared to terms like "Mashallah" or "Inshallah". It's not nearly as often employed in everyday speech in my experience as well.

[–]ceramicfiver- /r/divestment[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Huh, thanks both of you. I've heard it a lot from Arabic people I've met but perhaps I didn't understand the full context. I'll ask around.

[–]Awale-Ismail 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huh, thanks both of you.

No prob, comrade. But you weren't entirely wrong. I have seen some people use it in the way you described, just not as much as the way I pointed out. :-)

[–]Anarcho-Qingicalismsyndicalist 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I like saying it too but that's because it rolls of the tounge like most Arabic words. To that point I should probably learn Arabic.

[–]eriksealander 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Do it! Its hard but rewarding. I'm moving to Jordan to work in the camps in a year. So 3x a week I'm meeting up with a Jordanian guy and he's teaching me his dialect and I'm helping him understand southern English. If you're serious about learning is recommend you learn toki pona first. Your second foreign language is easier to learn than your first. And toki pona is a invented language that can learned in a week and mastered in 2.

[–]Anarcho-Qingicalismsyndicalist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll give it a shot thanks!

[–]eriksealander 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://tokipona.net/tp/janpije/okamasona.php This a good site to learn on. There a few Facebook groups for it too. Pretty active.

[–]EpsilonMaleSJWcuck 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What organization are you doing that through? I speak Levantine Arabic and would love to do something like this

[–]cervance 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Whenever I use a married couple in an example, I make them gay. The occasional look of confusion I get when I say "him and his husband" is priceless.

[–]grimoiregirl 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm going to start doing this. It's awesome.

[–]moobunny-jb 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (19子コメント)

I think maybe the normal right winger might offer you a kleenex.

[–]ChristianBundy 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (18子コメント)

And the alt-right will think you're one of them, seeing as how using "inshallah" is currently their way of making fun of Muslims. I'm not sure this will be very effective.

[–]moobunny-jb 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (11子コメント)

My arguements with Trump voters locally have never lasted long enough to reveal what Arabic words they know. There will be terminal conversation ending events happening long before then. It's only on the internet where we have random access to the latter parts. I've not seen anyone in the walking-around world go this far yet.

[–]grimoiregirl 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

My arguments with alt-righters who are local always seem to happen on online dating sites and revolve around the fact that I don't want kids.

I've tried changing my profile to mixed race. Doesn't work.

[–]CNNIsLugenpresse 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

The anti race mixing thing mostly isn't true contrary to popular belief. Except when it comes to Jews.

Put a star of David on your profile pic and that will do the trick.

If you put "half asian" its just going to get you more messages.

[–]grimoiregirl -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I put generic "mixed" but I guess you're right.

I thought maybe I might try a profile pic of me hanging out with a black male coworker.

[–]CNNIsLugenpresse 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's an even better idea... Just put your arm around him in an innocent way or something, that's more than enough to do it.

[–]ceramicfiver- /r/divestment[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

They do???

[–]ChristianBundy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Here's one, I just searched for "inshallah" and "kek" in the same tweet: https://twitter.com/SiliconNooB/status/882259703706771456

[–]TheWarriorMonkey 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

They really make it easy to find them when everything they say use the same 5 words.

[–]ChristianBundy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I wonder how much karma a simple bot would get in /r/t_d. I don't think they'd ever notice.

[–]TheWarriorMonkey 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Program it with these 5: MAGA, cucked, god emporer, build the wall, degenerate left. Let's find out.

[–]egosyndicalistegoist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know if the spelling "emporer" was intentional, but it's the perfect touch.

[–]alexthelion1 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think 'Alhamdulillah' is another fun one to use. "Praise God" or "thank god." And i think it's a pretty universal Muslim phrase.

[–]thousand31 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anarchism is a social movement that seeks liberation from oppressive systems of control including but not limited to the state, capitalism, racism, sexism, speciesism, and religion.

[–]Vetrinoinsurrectionary crypto-infoanarchy wifi-stealing libsoc squatter 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Inshallah, comrades.

[–]_hagfish 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reminds me of when I used to only refer to God in the feminine at church. Much eyerolling would ensue. Oh the teenage years!

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[–]PassesNoComment 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is pretty infantile. Don't we have anything better to be talking about? I don't mean to be mean but like, this is anarchy as I imagined it when I was 14.

[–]We_Are_The_Waiting 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (5子コメント)

AKA best anarchy

[–]barinnoma 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you're too serious to accept a little juvenility, you're probably an authoritarian.

[–]swoleprole 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If your form of anarchism is any different from being the raiders in fallout then you're not my comrade. /s

[–]barinnoma 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Would you also deplore those who paint penises on concrete walls for their vulgarity? Because the concrete is worse you know...

[–]_hagfish 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its not my revolution if there is not a penis flippantly markered on a FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY designated...

[–]We_Are_The_Waiting 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jet will make you jittery.

[–]ceramicfiver- /r/divestment[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean this took what five seconds of your day? It's not like I dedicated an hour long lecture about this.

[–]adiabaticalomnicidalist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Deus vult, comrade.

[–]TheWarriorMonkey -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What you think this is, revolutionary Catalonia? It reddit.

[–]swoleprole 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Isn't it kind of wrong to appropriate a minorities religious sayings for fun?

[–]ceramicfiver- /r/divestment[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point. But the core part of whether something is appropriation or not is respect. In this case we are respecting Muslims by fighting back against bigotry.

I'm open to other arguments though.

[–]abolish_everything 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

irrelevant to your point, but muslims are like, the opposite of a minority, worldwide.

[–]swoleprole 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

They actually are. There's 7 billion people on earth, 1.3 billion are Muslims leaving 5.7 billion non Muslims.

Christians are the plurality.

[–]Juz16 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Whites are a global minority

[–]swoleprole 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah but they're over represented in important positions and have historically ruled over most other people's.

[–]clowntownuser 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

in formally white ethnostates....whites are "overrepresented" in some positions

[–]Juz16 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Woah woah woah, cool it with the anti-semetic remarks.

[–]Blozi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I come to this sub to get away from bigotry. Make another anti-Semitic comment and I'M DONE

[–]AJAllmenhavedingers 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't worry, they'll run out of gas

[–]ErnieMaclan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have I got a t-shirt for you.

[–]sourdoughryebread 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So, to fuck with ignorant right wing people, you engage in cultural appropriation and denigrate someone's religious beliefs?

How do you think Muslims feel about this?

[–]ceramicfiver- /r/divestment[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As I said in another comment:

Good point. But the core part of whether something is appropriation or not is respect. In this case we are respecting Muslims by fighting back against bigotry.

I'm open to other arguments though.

Also when I spent a month volunteering in a refugee camp I got used to saying it as many refugees would say it.

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