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Specific Bannable Offenses and In-Game Guidelines (self.F13thegame)

ThePraetorian が 投稿 - announcement

Hi all,

We are currently working on a more robust system at this time, but to immediately work to curb behavior on unkind behavior with users, our team is going to immediately work to moderate and take action against those that are deliberately taking away from the spirit of the game. We currently have these areas of concern that will result in a ban at this time.

  1. Deliberate Third-Party Hacking Software - Anyone caught with automation/speed/wall hacking and other third party macro systems to give them an edge in-game will result in a ban

  2. Threats of Violence/Rape/Sexual Assault - Those using Voice Chat to threaten and harass other users with threats of sexual violence, rape and domestic violence to a degree unsuitable for social standards will result in a ban.

  3. Racism/Discrimination - Those caught being racist or discriminatory to others will result in a ban.

  4. Deliberately Helping Jason - This one is trickier; we will ban the Jason player and those helping Jason for deliberately 'helping' Jason win a match through killing other teammates or working to farm XP.

  5. Deliberate Abuse of Exploits - Exploit usage that results in the deliberate griefing of others to gain an advantage and overall reduce enjoyment for other players will result in a ban.

  6. Do Not Pretend to be an Employee of Gun Media or IllFonic - Anyone utilizing usernames that attempt to act as a member of our team or speaks in-game as an employee of our team will result in a ban.

  7. Do Not Spam Report Those You Do Not Like - Reporting users needs to be constructive; we do not ban for team-killing. Please only report those you are certain of cheating or exploiting. We will eventually ignore requests from those excessively reporting other users for actions that do not fall within these guidelines.

Gun Media holds complete discretion on bans at this time and will work to improve experiences overall. However; at this time bans will be permanent for those caught breaking these major areas of concern.

For those reporting; we need 100% verifiable evidence of these actions occurring. A video with usernames displayed and links to usernames is necessary for us to take action. A screenshot will suffice for exploits, however the best bet remains video. We cannot and will not take action without proof.

Please email f13game@fearthegun.com with any and all reports of cheating/exploits/harassment.

EDIT AND UPDATE: We want to make it perfectly clear to our users and fans that this is a move that in no way asks you to be censored. You can yell 'fuck' and 'shit' and 'cunt' all you want. This game is an outlet for people, and we are not ignorant to that. Think of this game like Westworld; you can screw with the in-game characters and have fun, but we're asking you not to harass the other players.

Have that outlet, have fun, go murder counselors in-game...get weird all you want, but if you believe spouting hatred and bigotry towards others and sexually harassing people is acceptable behavior, then please do not buy our game.

It's a game; the idea is to have fun, be scared and fuck around with the man behind the mask. Go nuts and play with each other. Use the mechanics of the game to get your thrills in...but please don't do things that hurt the enjoyment of others for cheap and lackluster thrills. In the end, it's no fun for anyone.

We have more content coming, more robust systems in place and right now we can't wait to get more out there for you!

UPDATE 2: To put things into perspective we've had around 1,200 reports since this post went live. Of them, 7 total bans have been placed on racism/helping Jason. The rest are overwhelmingly due to glitch abuse.

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[–]Chody__Most likely to say "bud"[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (8子コメント)

Just a note do not report users on Reddit. Use the provided email above. We do not need to get in trouble with Reddit mods with witch hunting

[–]KWMMASTERRACEDuncan_Ren 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (35子コメント)

Banning question: As Chad I'll normally say shit like "Jason, if you let me live I'll sell out someone else and my dad will build you a new cabin." Normally doesn't work and he comes back and kills me anyway BUT is that a bannable offence? I see how it's objective wrong but come on, it's Chad.

[–]ThePraetorian[S] 80 ポイント81 ポイント  (29子コメント)

That is not bannable as he is still going to kill you later. We're more worried about those that act as 'Jason's little helpers' than anyone just messing around with the VO settings.

This is at our discretion, and we're not going to go all ban-happy. We want to punish the people who basically act like a second member of the Jason team. That team should only be one person.

[–]UseTheValve1 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Jason mom isn't part of the Jason team ? ;.;

[–]GeneralSkywalkerSolo 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (10子コメント)

See, this is where this falls apart. I totally fake out Jason constantly. It works all the time. Now I'm going to be afraid to play the game for fear of being reported for lying to Jason - sending him someplace where no one really is. Someone overhears and records it and doesn't realize that no one was really there and accuses me of this collusion nonsense.

Just like the -1000 XP means I don't drive anymore. I'm not going to get penalized because Jason walks in front of my car holding another player.

Eh, you will figure out soon enough. I'm sure your email box is already getting filled with 1,000-2,000 word essays about this and that match and why this or that person is unfair. These guidelines are so broad, you are going to spend more man hours on this than anyone ever spent on the game itself.

[–]BikestMan 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Dude they are talking about people that literally go around the entire match communicating to Jason like a spotter calling targets for a sniper. Calm yourself.

[–]Osiris_mma 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

In another reply gun basiclly said lying to jason and tricking him is fine. They just dont want people who act like a jason team member. Aka fucking your whole team kver purposly killing them because jasons your friend

[–]KWMMASTERRACEDuncan_Ren 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you! I figured it was okay but I did want to ask in case it was considered "BM". I mostly play private matched since they allow EXP (THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT) and those people are cool with it.

[–]SUPERVERITECH 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a great move. The one time I rage quitted was when a Jason helper led Jason to me then stood in the doorway so I couldn't escape.

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      [–]BlackBearCJ 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      The helping Jason one really concerns me. How many people are gonna get banned as 'helping Jason' when they just accidentally killed their own teammate which happens all the time? Or when they've killed their own teammate for being annoying? Someone just gets banned and needs to have video evidence that they don't know the person to make sure they can still play because of what someone else did?

      Some of this sounds like it's going to kill a lot of the light hearted not-so-serious matches that I've been in and enjoy watching too. Especially the ones where everyone just has fun with Jason and just kind of wants him to kill one person the entire team doesn't like for being unhelpful and a douche.

      [–]sad-brown-cat 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I totally agree, I've seen so much funny stuff in this game...had me laughing myself into tears...now I'm scared to do anything...

      I feel like the developers listened to the way to serious ragers and are going to ruin the game for everyone.

      It's a game...It's supposed to be fun and the GLITCHERS ARE THE ONLY PLAYERS I WANT BANNED!!!

      [–]LordyPikabale 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      We actually took some vigilante action on someone who was roofing at packanack. Jason agreed to not kill us if we took action on the guy on the roof. So i shot him off the roof with the shotgun. Because he was consistently doing it every round. I felt it was ok to team up with jason against someone who clearly was ruining the game experience for everyone.

      [–]ThePraetorian[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      We will review each case individually and take appropriate action on public matches.

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        [–]JohnnyLuchador 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Note: is there a rule for people who purposely bully LaChampa? i mean, i had a game where Jason gave me a swirly.

        [–]cajungator3 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        How does that D&D pimp get a swirly?!

        [–]JohnnyLuchador 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        i shot a magic missle at him but he continued to only kill me with swirlys. Jason is so mean.

        [–]RapidH2O 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Don't understand people that farm in publics. Get a buddy and farm XP in a private game.

        [–]Ps4_and_Ipad_Lover 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        They find sick pleasure in messing the game up for every one

        [–]Vinceeey 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (98子コメント)

        What about homophobia? Is that a bannable offense as well?

        [–]ThePraetorian[S] 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (84子コメント)

        Hate speech is hate speech. Please forward that kind of behavior as well.

        [–]Tazbio 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (21子コメント)

        The amount of times kids have called me a faggot is making me question myself smh

        [–]CoffeeGuy101 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (17子コメント)

        GUN can certainly correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen, I doubt that a kid calling you that once or twice would get them banned. It seems they are going to be going after people who do it consistently or aimed at a specific person in an abusive manner.

        Again, I could be wrong, but I personally don't see how they'd police it this strictly since like you said, this type of taunting language is very common.

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          [–]BanAllMusic 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (15子コメント)

          How are we going to report this with PS4 not recording other people's voices?

          [–]bboynekoEl_BananaBandito 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (12子コメント)

          My PS4 does record people' voices. Here is a short video I recorded, it includes my voice (when I play music) and that of others.

          [–]Ps4_and_Ipad_Lover 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (9子コメント)

          Weird mine does not. A lot of ppl have problems with it

          [–]bboynekoEl_BananaBandito 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

          It has to be setup a certain way. You have to go into settings and make sure you check that your recordings also include mic audio.

          Then you need to make sure, that when you use a mic, that you go into settings and ensure all audio is sent to tv, not to headset.

          Then it should work. That's what I did, anyway.

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              [–]G_Thunders 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (22子コメント)

              Thank you guys so much for setting this precedent.

              It's been disappointing how often hate speech gets shrugged off by players here or in-game ("welcome to online gaming," "can't police free speech," "just mute and get over it," etc...). So, it's just really awesome to see that you all care.

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                [–]FinioussGlitches get Stitches! 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                Lol, you just have to trust that Gun will be able to determine the difference between harmless banter and a juvenile squeaker that thinks he's funny with his new dirty vocab thrown at every player with no regard for the rules. They're adults. They will make the right decisions in the end.

                If you get banned, the best thing you can do, is actually stop and reconsider your choices.

                [–]ZenMonkey11 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I'm a proud Snow Flake. Don't put us in that boat, we don't go around trying to get people banned in video games, that's silly.

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                      [–]DallasNite 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (24子コメント)

                      How about banning TritanArmy? 370k sub youtuber who has uploaded detailed guides on how to do every exploit found in the game. He is almost the whole reason the Packanack roof glitch spread so fast. Would send a really good message seeing his steam with a game ban on it.

                      [–]ThePraetorian[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (16子コメント)

                      Get us his SteamID, please.

                      [–]DaMarco17Kenny>Jenny 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                      In his videos he claims to be doing the glitches to "raise awareness to Gun Media," but I believe I saw a few comments on the video that he did the glitches in other lobbies and acted toxic towards those who told him to get down or killed him. In fact, in his newest video, he explains that he got out of the map and trolled Jason and got his extra xp. His username is BigTGaming but I don't know how to get a link to his profile.

                      Here's a link to his newest glitch video.

                      [–]ThePraetorian[S] 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      We have banned this account after verification.

                      [–]DaMarco17Kenny>Jenny 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Neat. Glad to help out.

                      [–]DallasNite 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Wow, thanks a lot. Didn't honestly expect anything to be done about him. I really appreciate it

                      [–]dfunkt_jestr 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Here's some idiot who commented in that Tritan guy's video about showing how to glitch in his own video. He's on PS4, name is gungrave1982.

                      Here are two more that I came across today on xbox one. A screenshot with both on the roof. Their xbox gamertags are Doomtime9000 and Tettrax.

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                              [–]radickle_e 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Apparently this guy does this for every game he plays. There are requests online to ban him from The Division and Destiny.

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                                [–]RuggeD_XBoYRuggeD_XBoY 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                I helped Jason to kill some people abusing the rooftop glitch on the Packanack Lodge, because I felt bad for the person playing Jason. Does the "don't help Jason" rule still apply in situations like this?

                                [–]ThePraetorian[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                Please in the future report rather than use Jason to kill others. Again, we will review all instances and take all factors into consideration.

                                [–]styxx33 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                This game is going to turn to shit real soon. This whole report feature is going to end up ruining the game. I get that some assholes need to be banned, but now the game is going to be a bunch of squeakers recording and waiting for someone to slip up and say something and then report them. For example... I am Jason and I teleport to a group of 2 kids that should not even be on the game. Do I know they are 12 right away? Nope, do I care, nope. I immediately say, "I am going to shove this spear up your ass and then down your friends throat after". Now these two dicks get mad and say I was making rape threats, yada yada, we are recording, you are getting banned. This type of stuff will happen more and more now. I like to cuss, and say shit that some people find offensive. If I role play as Chad and see Tiffany, I make sure to start hitting on her and talking about her ass and being sexual. I am going to now run into people who start crying about it and tell me they are recording. For me, IDGAF as much, but for the players who really enjoy the game and play a lot, this is going to ruin some of that fun. Right now, I see this game as, how long until I get banned? I am going to talk shit, and be mean/rude and say shit that others are going to cry about. I will team kill and as Jason I will ask counselors to work with me to spare them. Fuck off Gun, fix your game, make a new map, then start caring about reporting and banning people.

                                [–]ShownderDelicious Pie 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                Would it be possible to change Excessive Racism to Excessive Discrimination? Racism is not the only form of discrimination that toxic players feel the need to use. Personally, I'd like excessive homophobia added.

                                -EDIT- Thank you Gun Media!

                                [–]eastelephantArmoredElephant 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Yes!! It should def be added.

                                [–]Ekmodem 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I agree completely I hate anything that moves me even remotely out of my safe space.

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                                  [–]MoreLike-TurdCrapley 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Good! I'm tired of parties coming in, farming XP and telling Jason where everyone is. Then letting the buddies escape. It happens FAR too often.

                                  [–]kyle9431oilers 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                  You can tell who the cheaters and kids who say shit over mics are in here.

                                  [–]SpideyRules9974SpideyRules 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  Just a shout out to /u/ThePraetorian for being so visible and communicative on this topic.

                                  You don't get this level of communication from R*, Activision, Treyarc, etc...

                                  [–]MindOfJigsawMindOfJigsaw 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Ben is the staple of this community. Couldn't do it without him.

                                  [–]Chody__Most likely to say "bud" 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Too bad he got fired ;)

                                  [–]Jarek86 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (45子コメント)

                                  Is combat stance attacking doors as Jason exploiting? How about spamming Sense?

                                  [–]ThePraetorian[S] 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (44子コメント)

                                  Nope, those are part of the game.

                                  [–]Father_Gibuskingbullysoldier 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                  Why the design choice for having combat stance breaking doors faster than normally with the animation? I'm just curious.

                                  [–]ikarikhAdam Palomino 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                  You can sense immediately after each hit with normal animation to check if they bailed out the window or are still waiting. You have to waste time toggling in and out of CS before you can sense to do the same thing.

                                  While CS break down is faster, strategy is strategy. Using the normal method and sensing after each hit can lure counselors out of the house where you can shift around the house and grab them before they finish the window climb animation because you can see them climbing out through sense. Literaly the second they try to climb out, the house is no longer red and you can clearly see their red heat signature in climb animation and where.

                                  So it's not useless. All comes down to best strategy for the given situation.

                                  [–]almapaprika199 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  i think cs and sense with the toggle on off is faster than the animation :p

                                  [–]Father_Gibuskingbullysoldier 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  This. You don't need to spam sence once they are detected by your sence. If your fast enough, you can still combat stance and spam sence. Overall its still will be always better to combat stance a door, plus the fact you don't make the walking in animation that will leave you open for an attack.

                                  [–]almapaprika199 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  ikr! thats why it should be looked at cuz it feels unfair : p before this combat stance door destroying thing my strategy was : wait next to the door in combat stance as counselor jason destroys the door animation comes in where i can stun him without fearing i can be grabbed, too bad it doesnt work anymore cuz of cheap cs :p

                                  [–]DrPillzRedux 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Or you can just leave sense on because it's not like the cooldown is long anyway, and will still be on with plenty of time when you cs the door down.

                                  [–]Peatir 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                  I find it a bit irking that Jason using Combat Stance to knock down a door faster is "part of the game" when you have a very specific animation Jason does when attacking a door without Combat Stance. Why even have that animation in the first place?

                                  [–]Jarek86 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Thank christ, if I couldn't spam Sense I would never catch anyone...

                                  [–]XxEmyll 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Case closed!

                                  [–]dl1850 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  They're part of the game sure and it seems like you're going to keep it in. Sure seems like it wasn't intended though. Why would you guys put in a door breaking animation then have it be worthless? Seems lame.

                                  [–]NizaneOreo 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                  How is that not an exploit? What's the point of doing it the normal way? What was the point of even making animations for it if doing it with combat-stance is better in every way??

                                  Edit: Wording.

                                  [–]Jarek86 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I was wondering that myself...

                                  [–]DoctorCry 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Exactly there is 0 reason to do the animation now.

                                  [–]SiberianHAMMY 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  There was never any reason to do the animation, quite frankly. Why would I choose what's clearly an inferior version?

                                  [–]Ricky_Mourke 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                  This is frustrating that Gun thinks that it's fine. It's clearly not intended to work that way and it looks stupid. I still refuse to open doors that way. My Jason don't play like that.

                                  [–]NizaneOreo 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  That's comforting to hear :) It's really disheartening when I see Jason's doing that, it'll be even worse now that it was green-lighted, what a shame.

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                                    [–]SkelemaniaDamn enchiladas! 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                    What about a Jason that uses combat stance block to walk over bear traps or avoid flare gun shots?

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                                      [–]Phushion 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Your doing Gods work ThePraetorian. Keep it up!

                                      [–]Mailly92 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                      Just wanna make sure.... I usually play with my friends (3-4 people) in online games and when they kill me, I usually say "noooo... you bitch!!" while laughing my ass off... will that get me banned?

                                      [–]ThePraetorian[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Nope.

                                      [–]eastelephantArmoredElephant 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Only if you added an extra exclamation mark. that's where they draw the line!

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                                        [–]DailySprmDonor 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                        Sometimes when I'm playing Jason I'll chase after someone then immediately teleport somewhere else to do something just cause I think it's fun to create that "fear" of I'm going to die right now. Then I get called out for not killing my friend even though it's truly just my way of playing, I do that to everyone. Will I get banned for doing this?

                                        [–]Sleith 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        You won't get banned but you might get reported, this is the problem with these very broad rules, there's gonna be way too many reports to handle anything.

                                        Also don't care about those tunneling is not even a good way to play jason especially early in the game.

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                                          [–]DatGrass14 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          what a joke

                                          [–]sad-brown-cat 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          I totally disagree with all this, you're going to lose me as a player and many others. Also your selective banning process is totally unfair.

                                          [–]ThePraetorian[S] 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          That's fair; if you believe being a racist is okay, if you believe sexually harassing others is okay, if you believe that ruining other people's experiences is okay, then by all means go play another game.

                                          [–]nalcyenoR 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                          But F13 doesn't record in-game players voices on PS4 so we would not be able to have proof of people saying awful things. It would just be their mic indicator going off with no sound.

                                          Also, does this TOS update apply to people who have already glitched? I'm assuming no but I have multiple videos of people using glitches that I sent to F13 Support's Twitter a couple days ago before this update.

                                          Thanks for any reply! :)

                                          [–]ThePraetorian[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                          We are banning people starting today.

                                          You will need to record video yourself to prove.

                                          [–]ecuadorianeyezz 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                          So I sometimes scream "suck my dick" and ish like that when I get grabbed or die. LOL real question, do I need to cease my tomfoolery before I mess myself up? I know you'll keep up with reviewing, but I just want to go ahead and see if I'm going to fuck myself up lol

                                          [–]ThePraetorian[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                          That's not really a bannable thing, at all.

                                          [–]ZenMonkey11 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                          Love the game, never cheated and I can't stand when people cheat, but the help Jason ban sounds iffy. What if someone screws up and it looks like they helped Jason, or what if someone wants to help Jason but the Jason player isn't in on it... It just sounds like people maybe be banned with out even trying to cheat. I think letting the community sort that by just giving us a option to boot a player we think is cheating; is a better way to go about that.

                                          [–]Q2FuYWRh 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                          OK, I have no idea what I did but some guy kept saying "I'm reporting you, you're reported for fucking cheating" the whoooole match as I was Jason. I legit have no clue what went down but I think it was just a distraction tactic. Everytime I questioned him as I chased him down he would just answer "reported you for hacking, you're a fucking cheater".

                                          So I left him alone, killed everyone else, and came back to him still crying about me hacking. Killed him and he repeated "hacker" and "reported" over and over and over again until it said "Killed 8/8" then he left the match. Everyone in the lobby was like "Wtf did you do hahahaha" And I still have no answer. Like I said, distraction tactic I suppose.

                                          Kinda sucks to always question If what I just did was cheating or hacking. Like attacking counsellors through the windows after they dove through. I take a chance and swing and sometimes they get hit. Is that a "glitch", or isn't that the way life is? A window's not gonna stop me from swinging an axe through it...

                                          [–]darkphoenix69x 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          "Jason Little Helper" seems a little confusing. Really needs some prime examples posted. Because everyone will think it means something different.

                                          Like if someone without a map and radio shouts they are at the car to save themselves for a min. And it happens that people actually are there and they all die. Its now probably bannable.

                                          Or if someone locks a door before another person get there while being chased. Technically the person that closed the door just fed jason a kill even if it was on accident.

                                          Also was a time when i was in a car with tommy but he pulled over for jason so he could grab me so he could save his self.

                                          Or when someone names the guy with the fuse to save his self for a short time. Technically puts 75% of random lobbys at risk. People will just stop playing.

                                          [–]ThePraetorian[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          It's fairly simple; we are looking for people that team up with Jason to ruin the other player's experience without the Jason player actually fulfilling his job. If a Jason wants to go after another player rather than the one they are chasing, fine. If Jason wants to toy with players, awesome.

                                          We are looking for those that specifically screw over other players. It will be rather blatant.

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                                            [–]SwampDonkey90 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            What about those who go into a private match and boost xp.

                                            Edit: Yes, I did xp boost early on in the game as I was extremely frustrated with the connection issues.

                                            [–]eatingclassPSN: thefirstmovement 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            E-mailed my first screenshot of a roof exploiter. Feels good.

                                            [–]Mega_BrandOn 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            So you chose to target idiots rather than players exploiting glitches, from whom I've recieved death threats? Wow, your priorities are all messed up. Hate speech, or game killing, people refunding, glitchers. you have years to fix the hateful community, but the game will die before that, fix the damn game first, then deal with the community, geniuses.

                                            [–]ThePraetorian[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            This is a multi-pronged thing. Our team continues to work on fixing the glitches; it is a process.

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                                              [–]darkdude103 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              But but RPing as a KKK member while playing as part 2 jason is one of my favorite things to do

                                              [–]kuebel33 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                              4 says players helping Jason by killing teammates will be banned.

                                              7 says we do not ban for team-killing

                                              uhhh ???

                                              [–]syncopacetic 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                              I like the "excessive" part with the racism. Like it's ok to be a little racist.

                                              [–]ThePraetorian[S] 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                              People make mistakes, we can't ban common language usage from people...that'd ban the majority of players on just about every game. We can ban people who are being overly blatant about it. IE; spamming chat before a game with a hate word or simply using that kind of verbiage throughout a gameplay session.

                                              Again, video proof needed.

                                              [–]syncopacetic 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                              I curse all the time (obvi) and make a shitload of mistakes but I still never manage to be such an asshole that racism or sexual violence just plops on out of my mouth. Amazing, I know. The harder you are on people about not doing a thing the faster and better they learn to just never fucking do it.

                                              Sorry not sorry, but I've just got zero compassion or give a shit for anyone defending their right to be sexually harrassing people or racist. Even as a "mistake", which is even more ridic than your videoproof comment as if people doing it should make it ok. The "common" language part might actually be more ridic, tho

                                              Edit: I actually confused you with a different poster, my video proof comment was based on that and I am embarrassed nooow. Anyway, sorry!

                                              [–]Mr_Ibericus 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                              Had a guy verbally abusing 2 Chinese players in our lobby. Everyone else jumped on him immediately and let him know that kind of talk wasn't okay. In the game he tried to kill the Chinese guy who was a counselor, the other was Jason. We all ganged up on the racist guy. Then the Chinese guys teamed up and murdered everyone else while blasting the Chinese National Anthem and saying "China # 1". I wasn't even mad.

                                              [–]syncopacetic 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                              This is the best way to respond to racism at the moment, haha...but what to do when someone hears I am feeeeemale and starts harassing me over that? Play the wonder woman theme? hm

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                                                    [–]CrookedWookie 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    I was going to comment on that - it's a weird qualifier. =) You know, just stick to a reasonable level of racism...?

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                                                      [–]road3 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                      ...really? Becoming 1984 caricatures is not how you effectively moderate an online game.

                                                      [–]ThePraetorian[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      We're not censoring you. We're asking you not to sexually harass others and to not be racist.

                                                      [–]road3 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      You are over moderating.

                                                      [–]UnskippableAd 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      Did you see how Bill Maher was crucified for saying he was a "house nigga" as a joke? Political correctness is getting strong in feeling justified banning speech these days. Pretty crazy that it spills over into video games where you can literally just press the mute button to end the speech you don't like.

                                                      [–]road3 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      I know man. It's just ridiculous. Words are just words and as a fully mature adult you are expected to be able to deal with them. Reading shit like this just makes me even more glad I'm a Dota player, because the only thing that can get you actually punished in that game is intentional game ruining. Just being a douche bag won't get you a ban... but probably a lot of mutes from others lol.

                                                      [–]nalcyenoR 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                      What if you are banned incorrectly? I trust you guys to review all the footage you get thoroughly but there might be the occasional slip up where something happened that looked fishy from that person's angle but not the banned person's view. Is there a way to dispute a ban or is it said and done?

                                                      [–]Requi3m 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      You're playing a dangerous game with the screenshot stuff. I feel like it would be really easy to edit anyone's username into a screenshot.

                                                      Also in one part of your post you said killing team mates = ban then in another part you said killing team mates isn't banworthy. Which is it?

                                                      we will ban the Jason player and those helping Jason for deliberately 'helping' Jason win a match through killing other teammates

                                                      we do not ban for team-killing.

                                                      Doesn't team killing always help jason? Why even include friendly fire in the game if you're going to ban people for it?

                                                      Also I'd just like to point out that your studio gave the only black characters the lowest amount of intelligence out of all characters. And made them run fast. Are you going to ban people that discuss that in game? Because "hate speech?" How do you define hate speech?

                                                      [–]AnonCthulhu 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      What about people who purchase the game that are underage? It's really a buzz kill playing with 7 year olds that got the game because they had their mommy or daddy's credit card

                                                      [–]theshadowninja93 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                      I beg you guys. Please remove friendly fire. It causes more problems than it's worth. I'm tired of dumbasses shot gunning me because I got to the car before they do.

                                                      [–]ThePraetorian[S] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                      Private matches have this option and we are working on more updates that will have an answer that will be agreeable for everyone, we believe.

                                                      [–]MIME_H8R 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      Where is the option in private matches? I haven't seen it on XB1 since the last patch.

                                                      [–]JohnnyLuchador 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      exactly, friendly fire on and off disappeared on xbox one private matches. Please fix that

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                                                        [–]Bbt2014 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                        What would be the point of that? 🤔 The xp lost killing you isn't more than what's gained via the car escape.

                                                        [–]theshadowninja93 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        I've had it happen 3 times now. And while they get penalized with the xp drop I have to sit watching the rest of the match play out so I can get my xp after some asshole killed me.

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                                                          [–]sekkuarSekkuar666 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                          That's part of the game.

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                                                            [–]TheActivist21 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            I love this! Thanks Gun & Illfonic!

                                                            [–]Ps4_and_Ipad_Lover 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            I feel like it should be a temp ban first instead of a right on full ban but I'm sure you will work on it

                                                            [–]dad______bot 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                            Can you get banned for Giving away the location of someone who is AFK? (not playing)

                                                            [–]Hobbesian_Monarchist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            No way this system can be abused, no sir-ee bob!

                                                            [–]1134G 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                            So i was just playing a match and everyone was in a glitch i was told how to get in it and so i Did to try it out and the same guy reported me lol. Instead of a PERMANENT BAN how bout FIXING it instead. Talk about 40$ down the drain. Ive played all kinds of games with glitches, you know what they did?...FIXED IT NOT PERMANENTLY BAN PEOPLE AND FUCK THEM OUT OF MONEY!!!!

                                                            [–]whats_a_ze 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                            So I can team kill as much as I want and its not bannable?

                                                            [–]KingstonCSGO 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                            so you're changing the rules and then banning people?

                                                            [–]newkirkbritt 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Lol Gun Media Is A Joke!!!....Soooo what about the PlayStation Party players in a party chart can't be heard in game chat if they have it set to prioritize party and if Jason in a party with other players all they have to do is tell him where players are located and nobody will know it's wouldnt be hard to Act like yaw not working together just do things to make it look legit or Jason stay away from the area they are in

                                                            [–]ReV364 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Which of the developers can I be friends with? I'd like to break TOS and not be banned while ensuring others do get banned, please!

                                                            [–]JustASunbro 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                            Really not sure about the whole speech restrictions. This game is 18+ with extremely gratuitous violence, and legal adults should be big enough to take the consequences of free speech that come with being online.

                                                            Furthermore on the point, what about in regards to immersion threats? What is Gun's stance on threats of violence and such from people roleplaying Jason or counsellors?

                                                            Talking is a huge part of this game, a massive change from so many other games, and I personally am not in support of restricting that in any way. The mute button exists if your feelings get hurt.

                                                            [–]ThePraetorian[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                            Go nuts, yell 'cunt' all you want. Just don't threaten to rape someone and don't be a racist.

                                                            [–]JustASunbro 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                            Well, I appreciate the mod response, nice to see devs that communicate with the players.

                                                            What about in-roleplay threats of violence, where do Gun stand on that? Pertaining to gameplay itself of course

                                                            [–]ThePraetorian[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                            Role play is tough, but role playing as a rapist is probably not a wise decision.

                                                            Again, we go case-by-case.

                                                            [–]JohnnyLuchador 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                            i roleplay Jason as Solaire and fight the moundmakers. Praise the Sun.

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                                                              [–]Requi3m 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              Just don't threaten to rape someone

                                                              some of the funniest games I've played are where jason threatened then carried through with threats to rape people with the proper kill animation and everything. One of those games was on angrypug's twitch stream and they're rather strict with their rules. Again there's a difference between roleplaying and actual threats.

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                                                                [–]Pega8Degenerates like you belong on a cross 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                Well thanks now I know not to purchase your game.

                                                                You're perfectly fine with decapitation, murder and just all around gore but the second someone says a naughty word you ban them. Grow the fuck up

                                                                [–]ThePraetorian[S] 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                If you believe being racist and sexually harassing others is alright, then please do not buy our game.

                                                                There is a difference between fantasy and actual threats and bigotry. If you feel crossing that line is alright, then by all means go away.

                                                                [–]imnottouchingyou 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Thank you for this. I love you.

                                                                [–]Pega8Degenerates like you belong on a cross 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                It's a video game... "There is a difference between fantasy and actual threats" mate do you know how many times someone has said to me over the internet "I'm going to track you down and kill you". Suprisingly none of them have actually gone through with it. So yes there is a different between fantasy and actual threats. An actual threat wouldn't be said over the fucking internet.

                                                                Oh and don't worry. I promise you I will not be buying any game of yours.

                                                                [–]Ps4_and_Ipad_Lover 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Just sounds like they will ban you if you make a rape threat I don't see much of a problem. Unless they edited the rules to make it more clear after your comment

                                                                [–]Kenpo_Kid69 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                I think its you who needs to grow the fuck up. The developers aren't trying to witch hunt their playerbase, but bigotry, threats, and sexual harassment is unacceptable...period...end of story.

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                                                                  [–]ZylnoriTofuMan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  I do like the fact you guys are doing something. But at the same time especially with how technology is today, what is stopping someone from just tampering with a picture or video?

                                                                  What I mean is will there be something if something happens to someone who is falsely accused? I would hate to be found guilty for a crime I didn't commit, only to be told nothing can be done!

                                                                  [–]Frost33Shorts 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  Does a game about brutally murdering a bunch of teenagers really need to become a safe space for people who would be better off growing up, rather than coddled? I agree discrimination should not be tolerated, but should context to a word really be shelved for convenient banning?

                                                                  [–]b1lboswagg1nz 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  so teamkilling isnt bannable, yet in 4) "killing other teammates" is helping jason and is bannable. Did you guys think about these rules before you posted them?

                                                                  [–]3InchMensch 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  It's fairly obvious, to me at least: The act of killing a teammate, in and of itself, is part of the gameplay.

                                                                  Most players will try to avoid killing their teammates, for multiple reasons (XP loss, survival odds increasing when more people are there to work together, etc.). Sometimes this fails and they end up accidentally shooting them, running them over, or killing them with a bear trap. In the stress of running from a homicidal maniac, these things can happen and actively trying to avoid them adds pressure to the counselors.

                                                                  Other times, killing a teammate might be advantageous. Say the police haven't been called, nobody knows where the fuse is, and the boat is ready to go but there are three people looking to hop aboard. Do you wish the other two bon voyage and try to survive some other way, or do you take a calculated risk and lose 1000 XP in order to make it out alive? Not everyone is a hero.

                                                                  Finally, this game is great for RP among friends. And sometimes the thought of shooting that rich piece of shit Chad and blaming his death on the maniac in the hockey mask because he offered Jason cash and his American Express card in exchange for his life is just too tempting.

                                                                  As Praetorian has stated, the thing that is NOT acceptable is a player running around and simultaneously injuring other players while shouting out their location to the Jason because they're friends and want to farm XP for each other. It's 1 vs 8, not 2 vs 7. Active collusion is really shitty -- even shittier than being killed for a spot on that boat, because there's at least some sort of justification for the boat beyond "LOL fuck you we're gonna get all the XP cuz we're internet buddies!"

                                                                  [–]ThePraetorian[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Jason killing other teammates but not killing the one counselor that is helping him.

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                                                                    [–]DarcalusSteam : Darcalus 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                    I'm a huge fan of this, but i'm very curious as to how you're going to prove 4. Deliberately Helping Jason

                                                                    Good luck and keep up the great work!

                                                                    [–]ThePraetorian[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                    We will need video showing the match and we will have to watch.

                                                                    [–]Lookoutbehind 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                    I would've had proof if I would've recorded these two from this past weekend. One guy brought Jason right to my cabin and then Jason chased me as he sat and watched. When I got killed he tea-bagged me and him and Jason walked off. Next round his friend was Jason and he was a counselor. Same thing except the friend tried hitting me when Jason was chasing me. It won't be hard to prove stuff like that if you have video evidence.

                                                                    [–]AndyBartsch 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                    The trash talk (racism, threats, etc.) doesn't seem like much of a problem since you can mute anyone at almost anytime. The biggest problem I have is other players attacking each other.

                                                                    [–]Super00141 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                    If I knock out Jason, and tea bag him while telling him all the things I'm going to do to his mother (Pamela, not the players mother) when I find his cabin. Is that bannable? I do it to tease Jason and grind his gears haha.

                                                                    [–]Xx419x 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                    This is for quick match only correct? I choose to play with who I feel I want to play with I wasn't aware of having to be politically correct as I play a homicidal maniac I just don't think PC should be a rule in this game. Save that for the snowflakes in quick match

                                                                    [–]Achibear 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    A game ban is a way too harsh for just trolling. Those things are permanent. You guys need to invest in other methods.

                                                                    [–]AstatComics 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                    What if you are joking "you know why you die first? Cuz you're black (in-game)!"

                                                                    [–]ThePraetorian[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                    That is a trope and a stupid one, but we're looking at case-by-case instances.

                                                                    [–]AstatComics 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Black people almost die first everytime in s horror movie. I mean like that.

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                                                                        [–]KrypticSpartan101 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Thank you for this!

                                                                        [–]thehat1973thehat1974 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                        So for Rule 5: Does this include going into combat stance and blocking things such as flares, firecrackers, and traps. And, also breaking the door down faster by using combat stance.

                                                                        [–]ThePraetorian[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                        We are working to remove these exploits, the combat stance attach is not an exploit, however the flares/traps/firecrackers issue is. We are removing that for the next patch.

                                                                        [–]Sythalin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Jason should be able to block flares. Blocking traps/firecrackers, however, I agree with.

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                                                                            [–]Chody__Most likely to say "bud" 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                            Just a quick question by someone who is curious. How will you guys ban people? Will it be through the F13 servers or through the company that is hosting the game on their system

                                                                            [–]ThePraetorian[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            They will be banned from our servers.

                                                                            [–]Chody__Most likely to say "bud" 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                            Will there be any way of reversal like H1Z1 public apology except it's a public apology and dancing wearing a F13 hockey mask

                                                                            [–]Onebaddayaway 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            Be careful with the "players helping jason" punishments. Some players are just griefing when killing or impairing other players, so banning the Jason player too might be unfair, unless you have direct evidence that they are working together.

                                                                            [–]thehat1973thehat1974 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                            I need to email you about a someone abusing a glitch. Though, the email dosen't work.

                                                                            [–]jak1259 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                            The helping Jason ban is tricky except when the counsoler is literally walking with Jason, so I see no problem killing the cheating counselor

                                                                            [–]YiffYiffMotherFluff 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                            usernames are a pretty bad way of ratting out those you don't want in your community. you can change your Steam name anytime you want and it isn't easy to trace.

                                                                            You'll need to have some way of showing steam IDs in-game, also what if I'm really hateful to a friend getting really tilted and just lose it without worrying about what I say since it is just my friend that I trust completely, and some random thinks I'm spreading hate speech?

                                                                            [–]XavierG102 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            Where would telling me they hope my future kids have Down syndrome fall?

                                                                            [–]ThePraetorian[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            Not really bannable, but they are terrible, terrible human beings.

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                                                                              [–]Britbong 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              Hahaha

                                                                              [–]JoJoTag 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              Permanent? I would say a few weeks bans and after a certain amount of bans they get the permanent one. So If players get banned they learn to stop exploiting the rules (hopefully) and if they don't well they get a permanent ban. Oh and shout-out to the dev I played with I'm on your Twitter :D

                                                                              [–]XNeoRizerX 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              So in other words, the same system DBD has that doesn't do anything at all... gotcha...

                                                                              [–]KoolBoi69 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                              Banning people for suffering from the glitches you can't fix is wrong, vote kick would be better. In the long run people are not going to buy the game because everyone is paranoid about getting banned.

                                                                              [–]KoolBoi69 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              Only real thing I got a problem with is 4. Banning people for something like that is stupid, it should be up to the players in the match to vote kick them instead of permanently banning them for something that they have paid 40$ for.

                                                                              [–]Mega_BrandOn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              Check out this Tuber who seems to post nothing but how to glitch videos. He needs banned. He's actually bragging that he found 60 plus glitches. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt9vIgTwbLcFFAzFwLAiwsg

                                                                              [–]bakeup631 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                              Also wondering if intentional greifing would fall under deliberately helping Jason. Had a level 101 talking smack to my entire party of 7 calling us salty and claiming we would rage quit when he plays his savini Jason. One round he intentionally dropped the keys and battery in the water before purposefully getting killed.

                                                                              [–]ThePraetorian[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              Not bannable, he's just a piece of shit. Those items spawn back on shore when he's killed.

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                                                                                [–]GhostK8 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                Are the bans permanent or timed?

                                                                                [–]ThePraetorian[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                Right now; permanent. We are working on something to offer timed bans...but right now the measure is permanent.

                                                                                [–]GhostK8 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                If people are banned right now will they be able to ever get unbanned? Thanks for the reply btw

                                                                                [–]Aquavolt2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                So wait if i run some one over someone/s on purpose but i'm not trying to help jason whatsoever, will that get me banned or no?

                                                                                [–]ThePraetorian[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                No. That is a game mechanic.

                                                                                [–]Mega_BrandOn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                I have people sending me death threats over me suggesting that i'll record them for glitching, or they use the typical "You fag, report me BS", but this is really getting bad on PS4, ACT FAST!

                                                                                [–]Drunken_Comedian 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                Can I do stereotypical impressions of races without directing them towards anyone?

                                                                                JASON-U SAN. PREASE DO NOT MAKE-A AGGRIVATED HOMOSEXUAL ASSAULT-ARU ON ME. IT MAKE FOR MUCH DISHONOARRUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!

                                                                                [–]Kenpo_Kid69 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                I got some screenshots of glitchers on the roof, but I don't quite understand how I'm supposed to get my screenshots off of my ps4 so I can send them to you guys? Any chance of having something that can be sent via the PS4 or how exactly does this work?

                                                                                (Flash drives don't seem to work on the PS4).

                                                                                [–]eatingclassPSN: thefirstmovement 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                Go to Capture Gallery and press options on the photo you wanna transfer.

                                                                                Sent three exploiter screenshots already - hope Gun does something.

                                                                                [–]Mega_BrandOn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                Glitchers and hosts who quit without penalty are ruining the game on PS4. EVERY game I join has a glitcher, or 4. Why you choose PC first when you know there are way more console players? Glitchfest of Jun. 30, 2017. i'm posting one each day til it's fixed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmTcVuMv8ms

                                                                                [–]ThePraetorian[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                We do not 'choose' PC first. We can get fixes into PC quicker than getting to consoles. Those updates are going live soon as possible.

                                                                                [–]blizzardice 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                1,4,6,& 7 are the only sensible rules.

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