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Netherlands outraged after Israel seized Dutch-funded solar panels in West Bank

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The Netherlands has reacted with outrage after Israeli authorities seized dozens of solar panels in a remote occupied West Bank village that were donated by the Dutch government.

Israeli forces confiscated the solar panels in the isolated village of Jubbet al-Dhib east of Bethlehem on Wednesday that were installed last year, under the pretext that they were built without the nearly impossible to obtain permits required by Israel to develop in Area C, the 61 percent of the West Bank under full Israeli military control.

A report Saturday by Israeli news daily Haaretz cited a statement from the Dutch Foreign Ministry, that said the Dutch government lodged a protest with Israel over the confiscation of the electricity equipment, which was said to be a hybrid power system of both diesel and solar power.

The Dutch government-donated electrification project in the southern Bethlehem region cost about 500,000 euros, 350,00 euros of which went to Jubbet al-Dhib, according to the report.

The Dutch Foreign Ministry has requested Israel return the equipment and is “currently assessing what next steps can be taken,” the ministry’s statement to Haaretz said.

Read: Palestinian student invents solar panel cleaning robot

However, according to Haaretz:

A source close to Dutch diplomats in the West Bank told Haaretz that these softly worded statements cover the anger brewing in the government of the Netherlands, a close friend of Israel’s, at the damage to the humanitarian project.

Some 150 Palestinians reside in Jubbet al-Dhib, which is neighboured by the illegal Noqedim settlement, home to Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman, as well as the illegal El David settlement, in addition a number of Israeli outposts. These outposts, despite being illegal even under Israeli domestic law, still enjoy connection to the power grid and access to other infrastructure, according to Haaretz.

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  • Patrick Man

    “Your building of infrastructure for the Palestinians is not inline with our goals of ethnic cleansing.”

    • danik

      Yeah lets enable the Palestinian Arabs to conduct their REAL ethnic cleansing as seeb by how many Jews remained wherever they won in the past 8 decades which is zero
      The Arab population has only been increasing since then ,the “ethnic cleansing” is the product of your hatred filled imagination

      • Seoigh

        Talk about delusion. The WB is not legally or internationally recognized as part of the state of Israel, neither is East Jerusalem and the settlements are illegal under the Geneva Conventions and international law and according to UN resolutions. Ethnic cleansing is what is occurring in the illegal settlements when Jews will not allow Palestinians to live on their own land (look up each settlement and see how much land is privately owned Palestinian land which the Palestinian owners are not allowed access to). Try living in the real world for a change….

        • Dimitri Ledkovsky

          Jews have a problem with facts and truth.

          • Joseph Kelsall

            I blame Joseph Caiaphas!

          • Marcello Hameister

            Not Jews, please. Zionists only.

        • danik

          And you have proofs that can be held in the court of law that ALL of that land is firmly privately owned , as in “legitimate documents and proof of ownership “?
          As in ,no wars happened and the Arabs never settled on the lands illegally ?
          The Geneva convention applies to forceful transfer of citizens , which does not exist in this case ,there is no law that forbids Jews to privately live on a DISPUTED land , won in a war that was waged against us to destroy us ?
          It is interesting how this is supposed ethnic cleansing but when Jews were expelled from all the places where Arabs won and ALL of the synagogues destroyed (read East Jerusalem) that is not worth mentioning , right ?
          Oh and one more question :
          If Jews withdrew from all of that land tomorrow, dismantled all the settlements and left (hmm Gaza,anyone ) there would be peace ,yes or no?
          How about you get off your high western moral horse and double standards ,live for 5min in a real world and realize your problems are of a different nature , hm ?
          Talking about delusion

          • GIVVO6_B

            No problem proving that as the bandit called Ben-Gurion stole all of what became the State of Israel and the West Bank was stolen by that one eyed murderous git called Dayan. Time for the thieves to be punished.

          • danik

            “Stole”
            You are an idi0t
            It was not yours to be stolen from lol

          • danik

            “The blockade of Gaza is illegal”
            No it is not
            And as all the time in this conversation,you describe the symptoms instead of the cause
            The Israelis who appear on the stamps are not known for dedicating their lives and leadership to randomally target the Arab civilians out of ideology
            Begin took over an organization and turned it around ,it shifted focus and stratrgies to attacking exclusively military
            You claim you are inpartial ?
            Hm, then how come all your focus in this is aimed at Israel ,while you conveniently forget and omit to place any blame on the Palestinians who keep refusing all the peace offers ?
            Was it Clinton who said said Arafat refused a “historic opportunity” to sign a peace deal ?
            Wasn”t 95% of the WB,East Jerusalem AND Gaza,offered to Palestinians by them as well as Olmert ?
            But of course let’s ommit that part
            What is important is to focus on the settlements , and to spread false info (only one small part of Amona was claimed private land but they dismantled it all nevertheless) (hamas DOES controll 2 million of Gazans plus a very large portion of the WB population through dawa network of indoctrination , and polls show if elections were held tomorrow,they would comfortably win there so that ideology actually wins and controlls )
            You can use the heavy words and pull geneva conventions or UN resolutions (that the Arabs rejected all) as much as you want,the fact remains you were , are , and still will be unable to honestly answer one simple question here that I will ask again to show the extent of your weak HAMASBAROT propaganda of deflections :
            If Israel dismantled all the settlements tomorrow and took all the Jews from the wb , there would be peace ,yes or no ?
            You said you condemn all the violence ?
            Let’s see you say it :
            “I condemn Hamas rockets on the Israeli civilians ,I condemn the suicide and stabbing attacks on the Israelis, I condemn the Palestinian society for glorifying these people as heroes,martyrs”
            Let’s hear you ,mr objective
            Also you can quote Btselem as much as you want ,I dont care
            Israel is an open society and there are organizations from every side of a political spectrum
            I do not have anything against thrle criticism of the military rule and pinpointing to where my country does wrong while being engaged in this conflict
            Of course there will be wrongdoings in this sitiation
            But where is Palestinian Btselem?
            Where is criticism of the Palestinian leadership anf society ?
            Do you expect Israel to just let those who call themselves our sworn enemies to strengthen themselves to the point they can really harm us here?
            And this is where you fail
            Because your anger and frustration stems from the fact we are the more powerful side in the conflict
            There is no point in denying it,mr HAMASBAROT
            Your frustration and hatred is paltable
            If the sitiation was reverse,you would not utter a word
            Where is your condemnation of the Arabs who ethnically cleansed the Jews from all the places they won in 1948 ?
            Hebron,Jerusalem , all families expelled, their properties destroyed
            56 synagogues in Jerusalem raized , western wall turned into a garbage dump ?
            And no, everything was NOT ok for the Jews before Israel
            From Safed massacre and on
            And Israel controlls area B per Oslo accords
            Area A became the point of incursions after Arafat refused a peace offer and started a second intifada
            A billionaire Arafat ..
            No,Israel can neither annex the WB nor leave it for now
            The first scenario would turn Israel into a new Syria,engulfed in sectarian violence and civil war
            The second option would result in the creation of Gaza 2 , with Hezbollah missiles, bloody conflicts and MANY more deaths on both sides
            So before screaming about the conventions and trying to present Israel as a sole responsible boogieman party ,lets go back to real life where HAMASBAROT demonizations and temper tantrums mean very little and realize the fact the Palestinians have been and are responsible for plenty to contribute to this situation
            Israel made peace with Egypt and Jordan, their planes coming to Israel every day
            Who have the Palestinians made peace with ?
            Egypt ? Lebanon where they have zero rights ? Kuwait (that expelled 200 000 of them after Arafat alligned with Saddam)?
            But all this does not matter to mr righteous
            No Jews no news

        • danik

          Somehow magically settlements, that constitute less than 5% of the land have become the problem here , right ?
          The facts Palestinian leaders characterize this as an essential religious struggle where no compromises must be accepted is not important right ?
          And who gave the authority to Netherlands to decide where they can build on that land ?
          So yeah,try living in a real world for a change

          • GIVVO6_B

            You are a hasbara clown. The Jews have stolen nearly all of Palestine and even have roads in the West Bank that only Jews can use. They also have checkpoints over all the West Bank to make life difficult for the Palestinians (who are the real owners of Palestine). Time for the Jewish settlers to be removed to be sent back where they came from, which was never the Middle East.

          • danik

            Oh look typical Hamasbara troll retort in the absence of anything logical to say
            I have MY opinions , idi0t , not everyone who supports Israel is propaganda
            You are not going to decide for the Jewish people where they came from (which is MIDDLE EAST) ,perhaps your syrian,egyptian , saudi arabian colonists should go back where THEY came from
            The land has NEVER been palestinian neither will it be ,learn to share you filthy colonialist islamist

          • Helen4Yemen

            95% of world Jewry is of European ancestry
            who has no other ties to that land except as
            converts.

          • danik

            repeating lies over and over again will not make them become true
            Where did the numbers come from ?
            Legitimate source please ?
            By the way,more than 60% of the Jews who live in israel today are mizrachi jews and we are talking about third generation Israelis born in modern day Israel lol

          • danik

            1590 a “simple English visitor” to Jerusalem wrote, “Nothing there is to bescene but a little of the old walls, which is yet Remayning and all the rest is grasse, mosse and Weedes much like to a piece of Rank or moist Grounde.”3
            “While Tiberias was being resettled by Jews from Papal states, whose migration was approved by a papal Bull, Nazareth was continuing its decline.” A Franciscan pilgrim translated a Latin Manuscript that reported that ” ‘A house of robbers, murderers, the inhabitants are Saracens…. It is a lamentable thing to see thus such a town. We saw nothing more stony, full of thorns and desert.'”4 A hundred years afterward, Nazareth was, in 1697, “an inconsiderable village…. Acre a few poor cottages … nothing here but a vast and spacious ruin.” Nablus consisted of two streets with many people, and Jericho was a “poor nasty village.”5

            In the mid-1700s, British archaeologist Thomas Shaw wrote that the land in Palestine was “lacking in people to till its fertile soil.”6 An eighteenth-century French author and historian, Count Constantine Frangois Volney, wrote of Palestine as the “ruined” and “desolate” land.

            In “Greater Syria,” which included Palestine,

            Many parts … lost almost all their peasantry. In others…. the recession was great but not so total.7
            Count Volney reported that, “In consequence of such wretched government, the greater part of the Pachilics [Provinces] in the empire are impoverished and laid waste.” Using one province as an example, Volney reported that
            … upwards of three thousand two hundred villages were reckoned; but, at present, the collector can scarcely find four hundred. Such of our merchants as have resided there twenty years have themselves seen the greater part of the environs … become depopulated. The traveller meets with nothing but houses in ruins, cisterns rendered useless, and fields abandoned. Those who cultivated them have fled… 8
            … And can we hope long to carry on an advantageous commerce with a country which is precipitately hastening to ruin? 9

            Another writer, describing “Syria” (and Palestine) some sixty years later in 1843, stated that, in Volney’s day, “the land had not fully reached its last prophetic degree of desolation and depopulation.” 10
            From place to place the reporters varied, but not the reports: J. S. Buckingham described his visit of 1816 to Jaffa, which “has all the appearances of a poor village, and every part of it that we saw was of corresponding meanness.”11 Buckingham described Ramle, “where, as throughout the greater part of Palestine, the ruined portion seemed more extensive than that which was inhabited.”12

            After a visit in 1817-1818, travelers reported that there was not “a single boat of any description on the lake [Tiberias].”13 In a German encyclopedia published in 1827, Palestine was depicted as “desolate and roamed through by Arab bands of robbers.”14

            Throughout the nineteenth century the abandonment and dismal state of the terrain was lamented. In 1840 an observer, who was traveling through, wrote of his admiration for the Syrian “fine spirited race of men” whose “population is on the decline.”15 While scorning the idea of Jewish colonization, the writer observed that the once populous area between Hebron and Bethlehem was “now abandoned and desolate” with “dilapidated towns.”16 Jerusalem consisted of “a large number of houses … in a dilapidated and ruinous state,” and “the masses really seem to be without any regular employment.” The “masses” of Jerusalem were estimated at less than 15,000 inhabitants, of whom more than half the population were Jews.17

            The British Consul in Palestine reported in 1857 that

            The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is that of a body of population…. 18
            In the 1860s, it was reported that “depopulation is even now advancing.”19 At the same time, H. B. Tristram noted in his journal that
            The north and south [of the Sharon plain] land is going out of cultivation and whole villages are rapidly disappearing from the face of the earth. Since the year 1838, no less than 20 villages there have been thus erased from the map [by the Bedouin] and the stationary population extirpated. 20
            Mark Twain, in his inimitable fashion, expressed scom for what he called the “romantic” and “prejudiced” accounts of Palestine after he visited the Holy Land in 1867.21 In one location after another, Twain registered gloom at his findings.
            Stirring scenes … occur in the valley [Jezreel] no more. There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent-not for thirty miles in either direction. There are two or three small clusters of Bedouin tents, but not a single permanent habitation. One may ride ten miles hereabouts and not see ten human beings. 22
            In fact, according to Twain, even the Bedouin raiders who attacked “so fiercely” had been imported: “provided for the occasion … shipped from Jerusalem,” by the Arabs who guarded each group of pilgrims.
            They met together in full view of the pilgrims, after the battle, and took lunch, divided the baksheesh extorted in the season of danger and then accompanied the cavalcade home to the city! The nuisance of an Arab guard is one which is created by the sheikhs and the Bedouins together, for mutual profit… 23
            To find “. . . the sort of solitude to make one dreary,” one must, Twain wrote dramatically,
            Come to Galilee for that… these unpeopled deserts, these rusty mounds of barrenness, that never, never do shake the glare from their harsh outlines, and fade and faint into vague perspective; that melancholy ruin of Capernaum: this stupid village of Tiberias, slumbering under its six funereal palms…. We reached Tabor safely …. We never saw a human being on the whole route. 24
            Nazareth is forlorn …. Jericho the accursed lies a moldering ruin today, even as Joshua’s miracle left it more than three thousand years ago: Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and their humiliation, have nothing about them now to remind one that they once knew the high honor of the Savior’s presence; the hallowed spot where the shepherds watched their flocks by night, and where the angels sang, “Peace on earth, good will to men,” is untenanted by any living creature… Bethsaida and Chorzin have vanished from the earth, and the “desert places” round about them, where thousands of men once listened to the Savior’s voice and ate the miraculous bread, sleep in the hush of a solitude that is inhabited only by birds of prey

          • Seoigh

            Oh how sad that you wish to continue to delude yourself.
            First off, you have NO IDEA where I am from or what horse I rode in on, but delusion is not your friend.
            Israel remains in occupation of Gaza despite your lies. It remains in full control over the air, sea and the majority of land borders into and out of Gaza, along with a little help come Egypt at Rafah which is for human traffic only and not the goods which Israel denies the importation and exportation of and denies sick Palestinians or students the ability to travel. You speak of The real world? You wouldn’t know or recognize if it slapped you upside your smug and arrogant attitude.
            Let’s talk land ownership, and proof, it doesn’t matter in Israeli military courts under which the over two million Palestinians continue to live under a belligerent Israeli military occupation who owns the land, they are denied basic human rights and
            have been for over five decades now and you want to continue to talk hasbara?? The cases of forgery from Jewish settlers is rampant, and the money illegally donated from the USA against the laws is rampant despite their illegality. Hopefully this changes and soon, if aipac didn’t have so much power it would have changed decades ago.
            The fourth Geneva convention applies as has been made clear repeatedly, and Israel it’s a high contracting party so no lies you repeat change the facts. The only ones who DISPUTE the ownership of this land is Israel and their hasbarabots like yourself.
            Let’s look at Ariel (you know that illegal settlement) within Ariel’s municipal area there are several enclaves of privately owned Palestinian land, whose owners are not allowed access to them.
            Do tell us Why was Amona dismantled ? It was built on privately owned Palestinian land.
            UN 242 makes your pathetic excuse you hasbarabots make about taking over Palestinian privately owned land and land won in war which has been illegal according to INTERNATIONAL LAW for nearly one hundred years. So give it up, your hasbara isn’t working here……
            You first hasbarabot, you first….

          • danik

            Hmm and why does Israel control air and sea ?
            How about we analyse that ?
            It should not be too complicated ?
            Could it be because Hamas uses every opportunity to arm themselves and randomally throw rockets on us ?
            No..by all means ,let’s not controll anything
            Lets enable them to arm themselves with whatever Iran or whoever throws at them so that they can kill as many of us as possible
            Wanna talk about real life ?
            Why do they use all the money they get to build more attack tunnels and weapons,instead of investing in their ppl ?
            All those things fly over your head I see
            We ,the Jews , should just ben over or sit in the open field and let the group of religious destructive extremists who spend 24/7 indoctrinating their kids that Jews are apes and pigs the enemies of Islam, to reach their goals of annihilating us
            I know it bothers Jew haters that we have power and are in control of our destiny now , so keep complaining
            Military courts you say ?
            I say unto you again :
            Show me the proofs ALL of that land belongs exclusively to the Palestinian Arabs
            Deflections are not gonna help you
            Neither will the usual HAMASBARA tactics of using “hamasbara” card whenever someone has a pro Israel opinion
            The settlements are gonna continue to grow in borders as long as the Arabs refuse to accept Israel in any borders
            It is our way of making sure our strategic position in war against them improves ,as long as there is no peace
            As for the denial of basic human rights , go and complain to PA that has control over most of the Palestinians,per agreements
            War is war ,one may think those in charge of them will do a lot to end it to improve the conditions but no
            Your focus on settlements is just a not so clever deflection from the core issue of this conflict which is simple :
            There must not be Jewish majoroty run country in any part of the holy land and you know it
            That is why you have not even responded to the question :
            Israel dismantles tomorrow all the settlememts and withdraws from the wb
            Will there be peace ,yes or no ?
            But keep deflecting and name calling ,mr Hamasbara ,you look really weak

          • Seoigh

            The blockade on Gaza is illegal.
            Why not admit that that Israel remains in violation of international law, the Geneva Conventions (to which they are a high contracting party) and UN resolutions (which are binding on illegal situations) and yet you still make excuses for all of this disgustingly reprehensible behavior, that says more about you than anything else.
            Why was Amona evacuated? It was built on privately owned Palestinian land.
            Show me proof that the land the illegal settlements all belongs to Jewish settlers because it is well established that many of the settlements are built on privately owned Palestinian land.
            You lied when you made the claim that the illegal settlements took up only 5% of the WB (which is only “disputed” by Israel), it is viewed as Palestinian territory by the UN, EU etc as over 165 countries in the world.
            Your desire to shift the focus from the illegal settlements is quite telling also. It is also your projection that anyone who is critical of Israel doesn’t want a Jewish majority country. But that’s typical hasbarabot. It’s a pity about them pesky Palestinians really since should Israel annex the WB the Palestinian population would be in danger of surpassing the Jewish majority since international law demands that citizenship or legal residency is given to people when land is annexed even if it’s not recognized internationally.
            The assumption has also been made by you that I am somehow a fan of Hamas, when I condem ALL VIOLENCE including state sponsored and violence perpetrated by what some consider to be an illegal organization. By the same token it’s interesting that newly arrived Jews who engaged in acts of terrorism against the British and Jews in Palestine prior to and during and after the establishment of Israel are honored by Israel with state funerals, stamps printed in their honor and were voted in as high up as prime ministers.
            You can claim that the PA has control over the majority of Palestinians which is also not true. Let’s look at the facts about your false claim about the PA’s control over all aspects of the Palestinian lives. The PA and Fatah have limited control over Area A of the WB which is a non contiguous area that amounts to 11% and that area remains subject to Israeli incursions. Area B is subject to joint Israeli-Palestinian military and Palestinian control and is about 28% of the WB. And area C is under full Israeli control, hardly the PA having control over Palestinian lives. Hamas only represents about ten per cent of Palestinians and in the Gaza Strip only so let’s stick to facts and not your projections or lies. So only 11% of the West Bank ( which is Palestinian territory currently belligerently occupied by Israel even according to the Israeli Supreme Court), is under PA/Fatah contort and even that non contiguous area isn’t safe from incursion by the idf, hardly having any self determination, and that only accounts for 2.8 million Palestinians subject to Israeli military law, it doesn’t include the Gaza Strip under Israeli occupation, or the 1.6 million Palestinians living in Israel. I will use the term HASBARABOT when your defense of Israel enters the classic lies territory (5% of the WB in settlelments, Palestinians haven’t accepted Israel, PA has control over most Palestinians ).
            Refer to the exchange of letters between Arafat (who represented ALL Palestinians) and Rabin (before he was murdered by a Jewish extremist ).
            Where are Israel’s borders?? After seventy years they still have not declared them.
            Deflections and lies are not helping hour hasbarabot lies.
            I don’t care that Jews have control over their destiny, it’s their refusal to adhere to international law, UN resolutions, Gemeva Conventions, and their continued denial of the right of return to Palestinians after seventy years while demanding it for themselves after thousands of years, it’s amusingly hypocritical. And let’s look at their denial of self determination for Palestinians which is a basic human right written in the UN charter for human rights.
            The settlelments are ILLEGAL.
            The WB is not considered part of Israel.
            You are the weak one here, and you will continue to be when you defend the indefensible.

          • danik

            Oh and to go back to your first dramatic propaganda line :
            The fact some “independent “UN pannel discussed gaza means very little
            Hamas ‘s indiscriminate targeting of the Israeli civilians is illegal and as long as they hold power ,Israel will control what comes in
            Stop whining like a child that the Israelis know how to defend themselves
            The automatic Arab majority block in the UN and the consequential innumerable anti Israel reuolutions are laughable ,for once the problem is becoming addressed properly
            The theocratic regimes,most horrible violators of human rights united to condemn Israel ?
            Umm ok ..so that their propaganda outlets under articles on internet can arm themselves with “big” words
            Not gonna work pal

          • Seoigh

            What is not going to work is your hasbarabot tripe regurgitated on a regular basis, the facts are way above your pay grade it would appear.
            You have no idea how the UN works.
            Idiotic drivel as usual

          • danik

            Rob, maybe I’ve been assuming all along that you’re familiar with something that us locals are: The Palestinian Authority and other authorities encourage and legitimises the murder of Israelis through official school textbooks, social media and more. There are very clear examples of cartoon showing stereotypicalJews with big ugly noses and black clothes being shot or stabbed or run over. I assumed you knew about this incitement and about the very real effects of this propaganda.

          • Seoigh

            Have you read an Israeli text book lately ??
            You can ASSume all you want, it only makes you look more stupid than your posts.

          • danik

            The Israeli textbooks are gold compared to the Palestinian ones
            The childrens shows are on youtube for everyone to see
            6 year old children are forced to repeat ad nauseam that Jews are barbaric enemies to be slaughtered
            The Palestinians even refused to revise the textbooks to reduce the incitement
            Mainstream Palestinian media portrays Jews through the usual anti Semitic trope of black caps and big noses
            You are a sorrowful islamofascist appologist

          • Seoigh

            The blind following blindly because you choose not to see. This isn’t a competition. You tube is hardly a credible source, how many times have Jews and Israelis been outed for their part in attacks on Jewish sites world wide? Many examples this year so far including the latest one in the WB of a former idf officer having faked an attack on himself in his home in the WB with anti Jewish slogans painted on his walls, it’s laughable and yet you come back with this tripe? Why not look at the Jewish dual citizen resident of Israel who was arrested after sending bomb threats to many JCC in the USA? He wasn’t shot upon attempted “arrest”, he’s not being accused of being a terrorist, he’s got mental health issues or that’s the excuse apparently.
            As for me, I condemn all violence, including STATE SPONSORED TERROR as well as the routine violence suffered daily by Palestinians in the WB by Jewish settlers whose rifles, bulletproof vests, and attack dogs are funded illegally by tax exempt organizations in the USA contrary to USA law. Clearly you advocate violence when it suits your purpose, how very hypocritical, but what could one expect from a hasbarabot than a bigoted bark.
            Let’s look at an opinion about Jewish school books.
            Peled-Elhanan, a professor of language and education at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, has studied the content of Israeli school books for the past five years, and her account, Palestine in Israeli School Books: Ideology and Propaganda in Education, is published in the U.K. She describes what she found as racism– but, more than that, a racism that prepares young Israelis for their compulsory military service.
            Seeing a Palestinian only as a terrorist and categorizing their grief as different dehumanizes them as is evident by their treatment at the hands of Israelis. But I suppose you will call her a self hating Jew in order to silence her facts that don’t suit.
            All you have are lies, I have the truth and facts that don’t suit your bigoted and biased agenda.

          • danik

            You know,tokenizing far left Jews for propaganda purposes is not gonna help you
            The youtube videos are indeed legitimate sources in this cases as the children’s shows are presented,translated and confirmed by the Arab speakers
            It is a mainstream sponsored and encouraged ideology that the Palestinian Arabs do not even deny so i do not understand why should you
            Also enough to visit Fatah official page to see a nice collection of anti Semitic cartoons and comments
            But a propagandist is gonna do what he does the best: divert from this root cause of the conflict and scream “settlements” cause that is a convenient way to hide the fact peace can never be untill the Arabs accept Jews are here to stay with sovereignity

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky:

            “Let us consider for a moment the point of view of those to whom this seems immoral. We shall trace the root of the evil to this – that we are seeking to colonise a country against the wishes of its population, in other words, by force. Everything else that is undesirable grows out of this root with axiomatic inevitability. What then is to be done?”

          • Seoigh

            You tube has no legitimacy, never did, never will, it is filled with unprofessional, amateur and unqualified user posted content with zero requirement for proof of anything when videos are posted. They are AMATEUR videos and nothing more. How many times have we seen the proof that attacks were committed by Jews upon Jews as false flags this year alone ? A Jewish kid in tel Aviv threatening Jewish centers all over North America posing as if he was not Jewish and somehow he’s only got mental health issues ?? If he was Palestinian or Muslim he’d be a terrorist. An idf officer in the WB who faked an attack on himself complete with “threats” on his walls? It’s a joke at this point. Clearly you are and wish to remain to be in denial.
            The tokenizing of Jews just occurred at the UN for yet another holocaust minute of silence, it happens all the time, experts at “tokenizing” and victimization you guys are, you thrive on it, it pays well it appears….
            You tube only shows what you want it to show when you search for a video and that negates any legitimacy. It’s pathetic but typical that you claim youtube has any legitimacy in the first place. One must always consider the source and your labeling some as “far left Jews” when they disagree with your bias proves you only assign legitimacy to whatever proves your point of view and yet you deny any legitimate source that doesn’t require proof of anything. Jews have sovereignty in Israel and in any place they have legitimately purchased land in the world. Land has no religious assignation and Jews owned only six per cent of the land that was and or continues to be recognized as part of Israel to this day.
            You’re the “propagandist” and it’s getting more pathetic with each and every post. You only have sovereignty over land that is internationally recognized as part of your country, not one inch outside of what was internationally recognized as Israel in 1948 meets that criteria, in fact Israel is one of the only countries in the world that hasn’t declared its borders. So you can quit pissing and moaning about settlements (funny that is what you choose to focus on when any intelligent and rational human being knows that what you complain about most is your weakness) because they are not in Israel. The illegal settlements are discriminating against non Jews even when they are built on Palestinian privately owned land. None of the Jewish homes in East Jerusalem are considered to be part of Israel, get used to it.
            The “root cause” of the problem is the campaign waged since prior to, during and after the establishment of the state of Israel when Palestinians were forced from their homes and land in order to get rid of as many as possible. Over four hundred Palestinian villages were destroyed and their wells poisoned in order to rid Israel of as many Palestinians as possible. There were many Palestinian villages that were were supposed to be part of Palestine but were emptied of their Palestinian inhabitants like
            Jaffa, Akko, Lod, and Ramle.
            There is no hiding from the fact that Israel is an apartheid state which discriminates against its minority population, and the manner in which it treats Palestinians under its belligerent occupation and the areas it has illegally annexed. They are all treated differently depending on where they are, but all are treated as lesser beings.
            Ayelet Shaked called for the genocide against all Palestinians.
            Avigdor Lieberman called for drowning Palestinians, and beheading them all.
            The old haven’t died and the young haven’t forgotten.

          • Helen4Yemen

            No, slaughtering Jews belongs to the Christian West. Palestinians do not hate Jews because they are Jews but only because they are foreign colonial settler who stole land by force.
            …………….
            Jabotinksy:

            “My readers have a general idea of the history of colonization
            in other countries. I suggest that they consider all the precedents
            with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one
            solitary instance of any colonization being carried on with the
            consent of the native population. There is no such precedent.
            The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always
            stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they
            were civilised or savage. And it made no difference whatever
            whether the colonists behaved decently or not..”

          • danik

            He was talking about the Jews lol
            And the myth of the Arabs accepting Jews has also been refuted
            Google “safed massacre” for examplr

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky – The Iron Wall – 1923:

            “Colonization itself has its own explanation, integral and inescapable, and understood by every Arab and every Jew with his wits about him. Colonization can have only one goal. For the Palestinian Arabs this goal is inadmissible. This is in the nature of things. To change that nature is impossible.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky – The Iron Wall – 1923:

            “If it were possible (and I doubt this) to discuss Palestine with the Arabs of Baghdad and Mecca as if it were some kind of small, immaterial borderland, then Palestine would still remain for the Palestinians not a borderland, but their birthplace, the center and basis of their own national existence. Therefore it would be necessary to carry on colonization against the will of the Palestinian Arabs, which is the same condition that exists now.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky:

            “But that does not mean that the Arab people of Palestine
            as a whole will sell that fervent patriotism that they guard
            so jealously, and which even the Papuans will never sell.
            Every native population in the world resists colonists as
            long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself
            of the danger of being colonized. That is what the Arabs
            in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing
            as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they
            will be able to prevent the transformation of Palestine into
            the Land of Israel.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            What connects the Ashkenazi who is 100% European to Palestine?

          • danik

            Why do you keep inventing things,posting fake quotes and trolling ?
            Do you hate the jews that much ?
            You are just a sad Jew hater

          • Helen4Yemen

            No! Because the Ashkenazi is 100% European and simply stole the land.

            BEN GURION: WE STOLE THEIR COUNTRY
            ……………………………………………………………………..
            Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves …
            politically we are the aggressors and they defend
            themselves… The country is theirs, because they
            inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle
            down, and in their view we want to take away from
            them their country.
            ……………………………………………………………………..
            If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an
            agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken
            their country. It is true God promised it to us, but
            how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs.
            There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler,
            Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but
            one thing: we have come and we have stolen
            their country. Why would they accept that?
            ……………………………………………………………………..

          • danik

            Fake quotes ,taken out of context or just invented
            Nobody stole anything
            It was never yours to be stolen from

          • danik

            Quoting out of context – A portion of a speech or letter meant ironically or with an obviously innocent intent is quoted as standalone prose. For example, before the establishment of the state of Israel, David Ben Gurion gave a speech noting that Arabs would be nearly a majority in the new state unless the Zionists acted. Ben Gurion explained envisioned massive Jewish immigration. That part of his remarks is omitted so that the unsuspecting reader thinks that Ben Gurion was proposing “ethnic cleansing.”
            Omitting key phrases – For example the phrase “We bought the lands from the Arabs” was omitted from a Moshe Dayan quote to make it seem like he admitted that Zionists had stolen all the land.
            For example,in the speech Ben gurion gave to explain how some Arabs perceive the Jews , quoting seems to suggest he himself agreed with them ,while nothing in fact could not be further from the truth

            How to Spot Fake Quotes
            Sometimes fake quotes can be spotted because the language is particularly obnoxious, or because what are supposedly Hebrew names or place names have been distorted by someone who does not know the language. An Israeli statesman would not be likely to use racist or violent language in public and no Israeli would have a name like “Ouze.” “Quotes” of that type were concocted for a credulous Arab-speaking audience ad translated,
            Crude hoaxes can sometimes be because they refer to persons who do not exist. There are no such people as General Ouze Merham or spokesperson Tziporah Menache.
            Quotes that are given without an original source citation or with many ellipses are suspicious.

          • Seoigh

            You speak of the hasbarabot figure of five percent, when the facts are so much different. You seem blissfully unaware of the fact that Israel has full administrative and military control of area c which constitutes 61% of the West Bank (considered Palestinian territory and not “disputed” territory by the international community, the UN, the European Union and the USA) and the possibility of a Palestinian even if they own the land in securing permission to build any structure is virtually zero.
            According to B’Tselem, more than 42 percent of the West Bank are under control of the Israeli settlements, 21 percent of which was seized from private Palestinian owners, much of it in violation of the 1979 Israeli Supreme Court decision. So you can stop lying and making a fool of yourself….. It’s laughably hypocritical…. Oh and don’t even go there about B’Tselem, prove your assertions before you go trash talking and lying ….

          • danik

            Oh and by the way :
            It IS per Btselem that the settlements constitute less than 5% of the WB , plus almost all of the building occured within the existing settlements
            Talking about how much Israel controlls as a response to that fact is yet another pathetic attempt at deflection by you

          • Seoigh

            You are a liar and a fool….

          • danik

            Good luck with that troll
            Every time PRO ISRAEL arguments, which are perfectly valid, counter your lies and drivel here , in the lack of any logical response as a retort ,you need to use lame name calling
            It is you who is a propagandist here and your colors are showing
            I just care about my country and expose the hateful anonymous trolls who are working 24/7 to try to harm it

          • Seoigh

            There is no propaganda or harm in facts which you may find inconvenient. So
            What does you calling me a troll make you ?

          • danik

            Honest lol
            You are a troll and a hateful one
            So when will you answer my question :
            Israel withdraws tomorrow from all the territories and dismantles all the settlements
            There will be peace
            Yes or no ?

          • Helen4Yemen

            No! What they call “Israel” is a colonial settler state like the French in Algeria or the British in Kenya. Do you think the Kenyans would have allowed the British to Partitioned their land? NO! The Ashkenazi who is of European ancestry used “coming back” as an excuse to steal Arab land?

          • danik

            Israel is the indigenous home of the indigenous people
            Colonial state is “Palestine” which is a ROMAN NAME given to the small part of a holy land to dejudeize it
            The arabs are trying to do the same now
            There is no such thing as distinct palestinian people
            You are Arabs who want to steal the land from the Jews
            This silver of land was not even important to you before it was apparent Jews will get back what is rightfully theirs
            You are religious fanatics who think only Islam can rule over that land
            Zuheir Mohsen,the leader of PLO summarized it beautifully in his statement admitting “palestinian” identity exists only to fight Jews
            Go back to Arabia,colonizers

          • Helen4Yemen

            Find me one Ashkenazi with even 1% Middle Eastern DNA. There are none.

            Name………………………. European……. Middle Eastern
            1) Alex Feinberg…………… 99.8% …………… 0%
            2) Dershowitz DNA………. 99.9% …………….0%
            3) Rabbi Hammerman…,,, 99.9% …………… 0%
            4) Tony Kushner…………… 99.9% …………….0%
            5) Joseph Cohen………….. 99.8% …………… 0%
            6) Bill Maher…………………..99.9% ……………..0%
            7) Neil Gaiman……………… 99.9% …………… .0%
            8) Jill Sobule………….. …….99.9% ……………..0%
            9) Alisa R Doctoroff…….. ..98.0% …………….. 0%
            10) A.J. Jacobs………………99.9% ……………. 0%

            Source:
            https://disqus*com/home/channel/semite/discussion/channel-semite/stunning_ashkenazi_dna/

          • Seoigh

            Pathetic denying the self determination of the people who were living in Palestine before the minute percentage of Jews.
            That “sliver” of land had an overwhelming majority of Palestinian Muslim and Christian population prior to the establishment of any Israeli state.
            You are PATHETIC and a BIGOT.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Is the Ashkenazi = European?
            Why is he on stolen land?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Tell me how many indigenous Palestinian Jews live in Palestine?
            There are none, all the Jews in Palestine are foreign having
            arrived for the first time in the 1830’s and 1840’s from Eastern
            Europe,

          • danik

            Jews are indigenous to Israel and the middle east
            You should check the definition of indigineity before asking questions
            How many Arabs lived constantly in the Area before the 19th century ?
            The myths of long standing thousands of supposedly distinct ppl has been refuted long ago
            “Palestinian” as distinct peoplehood is a modern construct,that stems for a large part from the conflict with the Jews

          • Helen4Yemen

            The Ashkenazi is alwasys at 0% Middle East ancestry.
            The Eskimos too are at 0% Middle East ancestry.

            Alex Feinberg
            “Finally got my 23andme results:
            Ashkenazi – 93.6%
            Nonspecific European – 6%
            Southern European = 0.2%
            Unassigned – 0.2% ”
            https://twitter*com/strlen/status/287354859345281024

          • danik

            Bb So you say that the Jews are colonizers?
            J: I say that the Arabs see them in this way. The Jews are returning home. As you are well aware the Jewish presence in Eretz Israel was never interrupted during the 20 centuries that followed the second destruction of the Temple. Every time the restrictions against Jews were eased they were returning to their homeland. ” The question on the morality of Zionism was answered positively long ago. And if it is moral( i.e. just), the justice must be implemented anybody’s consent or disagreement notwithstanding. And if A, B or C want to forcefully prevent this justice from happening, because they feel disadvantaged, we must also use force to prevent them from doing this. This is the only ethics; no other ethics exist.

          • Helen4Yemen

            When Ashkenazi arrived in 1881, how many indigenous Palestinian Jews did he find on that land? The answer is zero, is it not? The 15,000 Jews were Yiddish speaking Europeans and no native Jews. Jews have not lived in Palestine for many centuries before the arrival of the Europeans.

          • danik

            You are regurgitating the same garbage i already responded to
            The jews always maintained presence in the holy land,in spite of pogroms and Muslim colonization
            “European jews” who returned to the place their religion,language,culture and social structures originated from,are indigenous to this land,unlike the turko-arab ,bedouin islamist colonizers who decided to fabricate identity in a never ending attempt to dejudeize the region and submit it to islamofascist rule
            Arabs are not indigenous to Levant,they colonized it and submited all the indigenous minorities there to their rule
            All except the Jews
            Which bothers you very much I am sure
            But we are here to stay
            And no matter how many quotes , TAKEN OUT OF THEIR CONTEXT (BECAUSE HE WAS EXPLAINING HOW THEY SEE IT ,NOT HOW HE SEES IT (A FAVORITE SPIN BY THE PRO PALESTINIAN PROPAGANDISTS) , it will change nothing
            Israel , as an indigenous homeland of the jewish ppl is here to stay

          • Helen4Yemen

            Did your Middle East DNA just evaporate down to ZERO …or it was never there to begin with?

            Neil Gaiman:
            “According to 23andme, genetically I am
            99.6% Ashkenazi,
            0.3% unspecified European,
            0.1% East Asian. ”
            Total European = 99.9%
            Total Middle East = 0.0%
            https://twitter*com/neilhimself/status/278035051210498048

          • danik

            I doubt you will get money from reposting that tweet lol

            “DNA Tester: 75 Percent of Jews Trace Ancestry to Middle East
            Founder of U.S.-based company says that anti-Jewish polemics can’t hide the science proving that Jews did indeed originate from the region.”
            Read at haaretz

          • Helen4Yemen

            Why is your Middle East DNA at 0% and your European DNA at 99.9%

            Alan Dershowitz DNA
            98. 5% Ashkenazi
            0.4% Southern European
            0.1% Balkan
            0.9% Broadly European
            0.1% East Asian
            99.9% European
            0.0% Middle Eastern

          • Helen4Yemen

            You are here to say only via force. Look in the mirror.
            You look so out of place, like the French tourists in Kenya.

          • Helen4Yemen

            David Ben-Gurion:

            “Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            There is no “indigenous homeland” at confirmed DNA of 0% Middle Eastern and 99.9% European. You are indigenous to Europe.

          • danik

            You are indigenous to arabia
            Your fascist quazi scientific denials based on fake tweets will not change the facts on the ground
            Jews are NOT Europeans ,never were and never will be , as always reminded so kindly by the Europeans
            You are doing the same n4zi strategy only in reversal, Arab colonist

            “About 80 Sephardim, 80 Ashkenazim and 100 Czechoslovaks were examined for the Y-specific RFLPs revealed by the probes p12f2 and p49a, f on TaqI DNA digests. The aim of the study was to investigate the origin of the Ashkenazi gene pool through the analysis of markers which, having an exclusively holoandric transmission, are useful to estimate paternal gene flow. The comparison of the two groups of Jews with each other and with Czechoslovaks (which have been taken as a representative source of foreign Y-chromosomes for Ashkenazim) shows a great similarity between Sephardim and Ashkenazim who are very different from Czechoslovaks. On the other hand both groups of Jews appear to be closely related to Lebanese. A preliminary evaluation suggests that the contribution of foreign males to the Ashkenazi gene pool has been very low (1% or less per generation).

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore, hiding behind fake “studies”? And
            the reason you are unable to post even one
            DNA report for any Ashkenazi to show that
            they do have Middle East ancestry?

          • danik

            I posted lol and ppl can also google
            All you did was post some dumb tweet over and over again

          • danik

            Your propaganda strategy consists of
            1. Posting fake quotes from well known anti israel sources and supposedly issued by the Zionist leaders , everyone can google “fabricated zionist quotes for a referrence”)
            2. Taking quotes out of context
            For example Ben Gurion wrote a lot about the Arab perceptions and points of view , with which he vehemently disagreed
            You are quoting his explanations as his own opinion which is yet another disingenious way to try to sway the argument in your favor
            3. Posting just blatantly racist,quazi scientific,invented “facts” about the jewish genetics ,origins and ethnicity, for which you have no valid backups
            In short the usual racist Arab islamosupremacist colonizing cr4p based on fabrications,distortions and propaganda
            And the only reason you have to resort to these methods is the fact you do not have truth on your side
            You are a thief of the Jewish identity,history and peoplehood , a colonizing parasite who is trying to uproot the indigenous Jewish people from the land that is theirs

          • danik

            Hamas leader summs it all up in this video
            “Palestinians” are just Arabs from Syria, Egypt and Saudi arabia

            https://youtu(dot)be/4UhVcAfMmuc

          • Helen4Yemen

            Therefore, we know that were no Jews living on that land for many centuries before the Europeans arrived in 1881. Who do you think the 399,334 Muslims and 42,864 Christians were? They came from Arabia. Then you need to tell me where did the indigenous people go? Where are they now?

            Year …… Muslim …… Christian …… Jews

            1881 …… 399,334 …… 42,864 …… 14,731

          • danik

            Has there been a continuous Jewish presence in the Middle East?
            Joel V Benjamin, I’m a secular Jew who admires Israel for its high ethical standards and technological achievements.
            Answered Jul 14, 2014
            Yes.
            A common misperception is that all the Jews were forced into the Diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 C.E. and then, 1,800 years later, the Jews suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back.

            In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years.

            Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem, and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in the Land of Israel continued and often flourished.

            Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.

            The Crusaders massacred many Jews during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee.

            Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years.

            By the early 19th century—years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement—more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel. The 78 years of nation-building, beginning in 1870, culminated in the reestablishment of the Jewish State.

            Israel’s international “birth certificate” was validated by the … uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel’s admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel’s people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.

          • Helen4Yemen

            YOU STILL NEED TO TELL US WHY THERE
            ARE NO PALESTINIAN JEWS IN THE WORLD
            BUT MILLIONS OF PALESTINIAN MUSLIMS
            AND CHRISTIANS?

          • danik

            PALESTINIANS WAS THE NAME FOR THE JEWS BEFORE 1948
            THE ARABS CALLED THEMSELVES JUST ARABS ,NOT TO BE MISTAKEN FOR JEWS
            PALESTINIAN BANK,CHRONICLES ETC WERE ALL JEWISH INSTITUTIONS PRIOR TO 1948

          • Helen4Yemen

            1) Jabotinsky – The Iron Wall – 1923: “The expulsion of the Arabs from Palestine is absolutely impossible in any form. There will always be two nations in Palestine – which is good enough for me, provided the Jews become the majority.”
            2) Jabotinsky – The Iron Wall – 1923: “Compromisers in our midst attempt to convince us that the Arabs are some kind of fools who can be tricked by a softened formulation of our goals, or a tribe of money grubbers who will abandon their birth right to Palestine for cultural and economic gains. I flatly reject this assessment of the Palestinian Arabs.
            3) Jabotinsky – The Iron Wall – 1923: “We can talk as much as we want about our good intentions; but they understand as well as we what is not good for them. They look upon Palestine with the same instinctive love and true fervor that any Aztec looked upon his Mexico or any Sioux looked upon his prairie. To think that the Arabs will voluntarily consent to the realization of Zionism in return for the cultural and economic benefits we can bestow on them is infantile.”
            4) Jabotinsky – The Iron Wall – 1923: “Colonization itself has its own explanation, integral and inescapable, and understood by every Arab and every Jew with his wits about him. Colonization can have only one goal. For the Palestinian Arabs this goal is inadmissible. This is in the nature of things. To change that nature is impossible.”
            5) Jabotinsky – The Iron Wall – 1923: “If it were possible (and I doubt this) to discuss Palestine with the Arabs of Baghdad and Mecca as if it were some kind of small, immaterial borderland, then Palestine would still remain for the Palestinians not a borderland, but their birthplace, the center and basis of their own national existence. Therefore it would be necessary to carry on colonization against the will of the Palestinian Arabs, which is the same condition that exists now.”

          • danik

            You are just trolling and wasting my time

          • Helen4Yemen

            • • • • • • • • • • • •

            Why are there no Palestinian Jews in the world?

            There are millions of Palestinian Muslims and

            Christians? The answer is that they became

            Muslims and Christians and that is why no

            Jews were living in Palestine for many centuries.

            • • • • • • • • • • • •

          • Helen4Yemen

            BEN GURION: WE STOLE THEIR COUNTRY
            ……………………………………………………………………..
            Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves …
            politically we are the aggressors and they defend
            themselves… The country is theirs, because they
            inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle
            down, and in their view we want to take away from
            them their country.
            ……………………………………………………………………..
            If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an
            agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken
            their country. It is true God promised it to us, but
            how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs.
            There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler,
            Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but
            one thing: we have come and we have stolen
            their country. Why would they accept that?
            ……………………………………………………………………..

          • Helen4Yemen

            Jabotinsky (1923):

            “Let us consider for a moment the point of view of
            those to whom this seems immoral. We shall trace
            the root of the evil to this – that we are seeking
            to colonise a country against the wishes of its
            population, in other words, by force.

            Everything else that is undesirable grows out of
            this root with axiomatic inevitability.
            What then is to be done?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Listen white man: Look in the mirror!

          • danik

            “Palestinian demography of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries has never been just a matter of numbers. It has always been—and consciously so—a front-line weapon used in a life-and-death struggle for nationhood among two peoples living in what used to be known as Palestine, each having competing ideologies and competing claims to territorial inheritance and rights to national sovereignty.

            The problem with staking so much on so narrow a focus as past demography is that the data generated by demographers and others since the early nineteenth century are so lacking in precision that, in some matters of dispute concerning demography, “anyone’s guess,” as the saying goes, “is as good as any other.” Or almost so. Of course, people still engaged in this high-stakes game of Palestinian demographic warfare will argue otherwise. With few exceptions, they insist that their own sources are superior, their own estimates more scientific, and their critics more ideological.”
            At ” smoking gun: arab immigration to Palestine

          • Helen4Yemen

            If the numbers do not favor you, then you will
            just deny them? You need to explain why there are
            millions of Palestinian Muslims and Christians but
            no Palestinian Jews in the world. Where did the
            Palestinians Jews go? You see, until white Europeans
            arrived, there were no Jews at all living in Palestine
            for many centuries. The Jews now in Palestine are
            100% foreign since there are no indigenous Palestinian
            Jews among them.

          • Helen4Yemen

            By the time the stampede had begun by white
            Europeans to Palestine in 1882, Jewish land ownership
            was less than 0.1% of Palestine. By 1947, all that the white
            Europeans managed to buy was 6.6% of Palestine and the
            rest they stole.

            Jewish land ownership in Palestine
            of total area of 26,323,000 dunums

            1882 — 22500 — 0.1%
            1900 — 218000 — 0.8%
            1914 — 418000 — 1.6%
            1927 — 865000 — 3.2%
            1936 — 1231000 — 4.7%
            1945 — 1588365 — 6.0%
            1947 — 1734000 — 6.6%

          • danik

            Uh huh
            Cause the Arabs owned the other 90% of the land 😂😂😂
            The fellahi who were shipped from the neighboring countries suddenly became exclusive owners of the holy land lol

          • danik

            Between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of ONE people, the Arab nation. Look, I have family members with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are ONE people. Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel and for Arab unity.
            A separate Palestinian entity needs to fight for the national interest in the then remaining occupied territories. The Jordanian government cannot speak for Palestinians in Israel, Lebanon or Syria. Jordan is a state with specific borders. It cannot lay claim on – for instance – Haifa or Jaffa, while I AM entitled to Haifa, Jaffa, Jerusalem and Beersheba. Jordan can only speak for Jordanians and the Palestinians in Jordan. The Palestinian state would be entitled to represent all Palestinians in the Arab world en elsewhere. Once we have accomplished all of our rights in all of Palestine, we shouldn’t postpone the unification of Jordan and Palestine for one second.

            Zuheir Mohsen

          • Helen4Yemen

            Note: “fellahin” is referring to the Palestinian farmers.

            David Ben-Gurion – 1918: “The fellahin are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement.”

            David Ben-Gurion- 1918: “Even in their former habitations the Arabs did not engage in farming…their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material: to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes…the Jewish farmer, like any other farmer, was not easily torn from his soil…Despite the repression and suffering the rural population remained unchanged.”

            Itzhak Ben-Zvi – 1929: “The great majority of the fellahin do not descend from the Arab conquerors but before that, from the Jewish fellahin, who were the foundation of this country before its conquest by Islam.”

            Benny Morris: “The vast majority of Arabs who live in Palestine originated in Palestine, ‘originated’ meaning they have been living in Palestine for hundreds of years.”

          • danik

            Google :
            “How to spot fake zionist quotes on the internet ”
            Google
            “Israel , Palestine revisited by Benny Morris,his latest and greatest book published after he got an access to the military archives and where he took back most of his claims written in the early works

            There is no such country [as Palestine]! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria.”
            – Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, a local Arab leader, to the Peel Commission, 1937

            “Palestine was part of the Province of Syria… politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity.”
            – The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted this in a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947

            “It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria.”
            – Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, to the UN Security Council

            “You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian People, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people.”
            – Syrian President Hafez Assad to PLO leader Yassir Arafat.

            “There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity…. yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel.”
            – Zuheir Muhsin, late Military Department head of the PLO and member of its Executive Council (Dutch daily Trouw, March 1977)

            “The interesting thing about “

          • danik

            If there is such a thing as “palestinian people,it is because i invented them”
            Yasser Arafat 2000

          • danik

            Provide the source for the mentioned quotes

          • danik

            Demographer U.O. Schmelz’s analysis of the Ottoman registration data for 1905 populations of Jerusalem and Hebron kazas (Ottoman districts), by place of birth, showed that of those Arab Palestinians born outside their localities of residence, approximately half represented intra-Palestine movement—from areas of low-level economic activity to areas of higher-level activity—while the other half represented Arab immigration into Palestine itself, 43 percent originating in Asia, 39 percent in Africa, and 20 percent in Turke

          • Helen4Yemen

            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            If Palestinians are not native, then please
            tell me who the natives are and where are they
            now?

          • danik

            Gingrich said that the Palestinians are an “invented” people, “who are in fact Arabs.”

            His statement about the Palestinians was entirely accurate. At the end of 1920, the “Palestinian people” was artificially carved out of the Arab population of “Greater Syria.” “Greater Syria” included present-day Syria, Lebanon, Israel, the Palestinian Authority and Jordan. That is, the Palestinian people were invented 91 years ago. Moreover, as Gingrich noted, the term “Palestinian people” only became widely accepted after 1977.

            As Daniel Pipes chronicled in a 1989 article on the subject in The Middle East Quarterly, the local Arabs in what became Israel opted for a local nationalistic “Palestinian” identity in part due to their sense that their brethren in Syria were not sufficiently committed to the eradication of Zionism

          • Helen4Yemen

            You cannot RETURN to a land where you have ZERO % ancestry.

            Name………………………. European……. Middle Eastern
            1) Alex Feinberg…………… 99.8% …………… 0%
            2) Dershowitz DNA………. 99.9% …………….0%
            3) Rabbi Hammerman…,,, 99.9% …………… 0%
            4) Tony Kushner…………… 99.9% …………….0%
            5) Joseph Cohen………….. 99.8% …………… 0%
            6) Bill Maher…………………..99.9% ……………..0%
            7) Neil Gaiman……………… 99.9% …………… .0%
            8) Jill Sobule………….. …….99.9% ……………..0%
            9) Alisa R Doctoroff…….. ..98.0% …………….. 0%
            10) A.J. Jacobs………………99.9% ……………. 0%

            Source:
            https://disqus*com/home/channel/semite/discussion/channel-semite/stunning_ashkenazi_dna/

          • Helen4Yemen

            HARDLY ANY JEWS LIVED IN PALESTINE PRIOR TO 1850

            “The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000.
            Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years.
            Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of
            Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to
            Palestine.”

            https://en.*ikipedia*org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)

          • Helen4Yemen

            THERE ARE NO INDIGENOUS PALESTINIAN JEWS. YES OR NO

          • danik
          • Helen4Yemen

            Do you have one like this to show me that any Ashkenazi has even 1% Middle East ancestry? Yes or no?

            Alan Dershowitz DNA
            98. 5% Ashkenazi
            0.4% Southern European
            0.1% Balkan
            0.9% Broadly European
            0.1% East Asian
            99.9% European
            0.0% Middle Eastern

          • Helen4Yemen

            Are you saying the Nigerian, the Yemeni and the German Jews are the same race?

      • Helen4Yemen

        There were no Jews in Palestine prior to the 1830’s and 1840’s
        when European Jews began to arrive.

        Year …… Muslim …… Christian …… Jews
        1851 …… 300,000 …… 27,000 …… 13,000
        1861 …… 325,000 …… 31,000 …… 13,000
        1878 …… 386,320 …… 40,588 …… 13,942
        1879 …… 390,597 …… 41,331 …… 14,197
        1880 …… 394,935 …… 41,089 …… 14,460
        1881 …… 399,334 …… 42,864 …… 14,731
        1882 …… 403,795 …… 43,659 …… 15,011 Ashkenazi arrived

        • danik

          There is no population census before those years
          The Muslims were Ottoman turks , Bedouins , Syrians , Egyptians etc etc who were allowed to roam freely

          • Helen4Yemen

            There were no native Jews in Palestine when the Ashkenazi arrived in 1881. Only native Palestinian Muslims and Christians. Yes or no?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Since there were no Jews living on that land for many centuries before the arrival of the Ashkenazi, are you saying the land was totally without people?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Is the DNA of the Ashkenazi 99.9% European (Poland, Hungary …)
            and 0% Middle Eastern? Yes or no?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Note: “fellahin” is referring to the Palestinian farmers.

            David Ben-Gurion – 1918: “The fellahin are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement.”

            David Ben-Gurion- 1918: “Even in their former habitations the Arabs did not engage in farming…their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material: to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes…the Jewish farmer, like any other farmer, was not easily torn from his soil…Despite the repression and suffering the rural population remained unchanged.”

            Itzhak Ben-Zvi – 1929: “The great majority of the fellahin do not descend from the Arab conquerors but before that, from the Jewish fellahin, who were the foundation of this country before its conquest by Islam.”

            Benny Morris: “The vast majority of Arabs who live in Palestine originated in Palestine, ‘originated’ meaning they have been living in Palestine for hundreds of years.”

      • Helen4Yemen

        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Are you aware that there were no Palestinian
        Jews when the Ashkenazi arrived? He found
        only other white Europeans who had arrived
        on recent times. Meaning, every Jew now in
        Palestine is foreign migrants who took that
        land by force.

        Year …… Muslim …… Christian …… Jews
        1851 …… 300,000 …… 27,000 …… 13,000
        1861 …… 325,000 …… 31,000 …… 13,000
        1878 …… 386,320 …… 40,588 …… 13,942
        1879 …… 390,597 …… 41,331 …… 14,197
        1880 …… 394,935 …… 41,089 …… 14,460
        1881 …… 399,334 …… 42,864 …… 14,731

    • loldirtsheets

      Israelis are genocidal maniacs.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Except they are not “Israelis” but Lithuanians, Hungarians, Ukrainians …

  • Kefdog

    Bibbi teaching Trump the fastest route to the bottom..

  • Care Stone

    Hear O’ Israel
    “Wait!”, you might remonstrate with me, “Israel is back in the land but you can’t tell me that Israel knows peace and rest and quiet and a lack of fear, anything but!!!” Of course, if you responded this way you would be quite right. But I believe verse 11 addresses this: “I am with you and will save you,’ declares the LORD. ‘Though I completely destroy all the nations among which I scatter you, I will not completely destroy you. I will discipline you but only with justice; I will not let you go entirely unpunished.'” (Jeremiah 30:11 NIV)

    • GIVVO6_B

      Utter bollocks considering most of the Jews are Khazar converts with absolutely no connection with Palestine.

      • Not a fan of Israel

        When God punished the Jews for breaking His Covenant, was God being anti-semitic? Now they are doing it again.

    • Helen4Yemen

      95% of world Jewry is snow-white Ashkenazi of European ancestry

      Neil Gaiman:
      “According to 23andme, genetically I am
      99.6% Ashkenazi,
      0.3% unspecified European,
      0.1% East Asian. ”
      Total European = 99.9%
      Total Middle East = 0.0%
      https://twitter*com/neilhimself/status/278035051210498048

  • Rudy Bleeker

    Excuse me? Parasite state? The Netherlands is one of the most productive nations in the world with strict laws against offering and taking bribes.

    • Not a fan of Israel

      I think he means Israel. They have always been a Beggar Nation from day one..

  • Pete Ross

    Calling Judea & Samara ‘The West Bank’ makes just about as much sense as Arabic speaking people calling themselves ‘Palestinians’.
    Jordan, in their declared ‘war of annihilation’, crossed the river, invading J&S in 1948. They had no business being there, except to make all the residents Jordanians. Jordan was created from the Ottoman Palestine territory by the British custodians, as a favor to the Saudis.
    J&S was liberated from the Jordanian Jihad in 1967, and has since relinquished all claims to that territory, nearly all of which had been considered state land, the property of the crown.
    The status of J&S in 1948 was that of ‘no man’s land’ – no sovereign country laid claims to it, until Jordan invaded. Today, since Israel controls the territory, but has not formally annexed it, the status of ‘unclaimed land’, or ‘no man’s land’, remains as in 1948. So, what we here in the case of J&S is wilderness territory, about 30% of which is currently occupied by Jordanians, who are ruled over by the band of pirates known as the Palestine Authority. Just as the Palestine Authority determines who lives on the land under it’s control, Israel decides who lives on the land under her control.
    The Muslims like to think they own everything in the Middle East, but they lost World War I and World War II, and their plans with the Nazis to exterminate all the Jews didn’t go the way they planned it. Now they live under the rule of the band of pirates known as the Palestine Authority. They’re certainly not running away to Germany like the Syrian peoples, so it can’t be so bad living under the band of Palestine Authority pirates.
    Israel needs to take care of the 400,000 or so Muslims living in the Israeli controlled portion of J&S. The obvious solution is for Israel to give them a lot of money to go live somewhere else.

    • Helen4Yemen

      Palestine population

      Year …… Muslim …… Christian …… Jews
      1851 …… 300,000 …… 27,000 …… 13,000
      1861 …… 325,000 …… 31,000 …… 13,000
      1878 …… 386,320 …… 40,588 …… 13,942
      1879 …… 390,597 …… 41,331 …… 14,197
      1880 …… 394,935 …… 41,089 …… 14,460
      1881 …… 399,334 …… 42,864 …… 14,731
      1882 …… 403,795 …… 43,659 …… 15,011 Ashkenazi arrived

      Tell me how many of the 15,011 Jews that Zionists
      found on that land were native? None, they were
      all Yiddish-speaking snow-white Europeans who
      had arrived only in recent years … meaning that
      there were no indigenous Palestinian Jews living
      on that land – only indigenous Palestinian Muslims
      and Christians.The Ashkenazi at confirmed DNA
      of 99.9% European and 0% Middle Eastern is just
      a foreign implant.

    • Helen4Yemen

      DNA has confirmed that the Ashkenazi have no trace of Middle East ancestry, zero, zilch! Here are 10 samples that look almost identical because the Ashkenazi are a closely knit group that had been breeding among its own members for centuries. The Ashkenazi is in fact one of the purest and whitest of any European groups at a stunning level of 99.9% European.

      Name………………………. European……. Middle Eastern
      1) Alex Feinberg…………… 99.8% …………… 0%
      2) Dershowitz DNA………. 99.9% …………….0%
      3) Rabbi Hammerman…,,, 99.9% …………… 0%
      4) Tony Kushner…………… 99.9% …………….0%
      5) Joseph Cohen………….. 99.8% …………… 0%
      6) Bill Maher…………………..99.9% ……………..0%
      7) Neil Gaiman……………… 99.9% …………… .0%
      8) Jill Sobule………….. …….99.9% ……………..0%
      9) Alisa R Doctoroff…….. ..98.0% …………….. 0%
      10) A.J. Jacobs………………99.9% ……………. 0%

      Source:
      https://disqus*com/home/channel/semite/discussion/channel-semite/stunning_ashkenazi_dna/

  • amor00000

    Shows you how evil these Zionazi Jews are. They seized donated solar panels that were part of a humanitarian project by the Dutch government to provide electricity to a Palestinian village on the West Bank in Occupied Palestine.
    Heartless, cruel Zionazi Jews is what they are, pigs. 😡

  • AndyUK

    Despicable from israel

  • Graeme Sutherland

    It would be really helpful for the Palestinians if they had less than 12 kids, they have very little room as it is.

  • Rene Wallage

    Oh dear, dear, dear. “Ethnic cleansing, genocide”… Both the UN and the WHO have shown studies that show that the Arab population in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza has more than trippled between 1967 and 2010.
    We must be doing something wrong than…

    • Indeed the populations have increased. However you’re, either wilfully or ignorantly, ignoring the fact that the increased population has been as a direct result of Israel’s agenda of genocide and ethnic cleansing.
      You see Rene… the overpopulation in these areas is predominantly a result of the a huge influx of Palestinian refugees!! Refugees fleeing from areas of the occupied territories from which they’re being ethnically cleansed.
      Maybe that’s too difficult for you to understand… but that’s the fault of your lack of critical thinking ability than any real facts.
      Secondly, in Gaza the trend has actually reversed. In 2012, the population growth in the Gaza Strip was only 3.5 percent… a significant drop in comparison to 1992, when the population growth was 7.8 percent!!

      BTW mate… if you’re going to quote UN and WHO figures, you’d be wise to actually quote them correctly lest you be taken for a monumental cretin or a mindless apologist for Israel. Which basically amounts to the same thing 🙂

    • Helen4Yemen

      95% of world Jewry is Ashkenazi who are European with 0% ancestry to Palestine

      Neil Gaiman:
      “According to 23andme, genetically I am
      99.6% Ashkenazi,
      0.3% unspecified European,
      0.1% East Asian. ”
      Total European = 99.9%
      Total Middle East = 0.0%
      https://twitter*com/neilhimself/status/278035051210498048

  • I’m Kevin

    This is so unfortunate because, It just gives off a very negative image to Israel. Are they REALLY interested in fixing this Palestinian issue? No. That is the only response you can perhaps get from them. You are lucky if they even say those two words, instead, most likely will dodge such question. This is really shameful

  • Helen4Yemen

    Ben Gurion: WE STOLE THEIR COUNTRY
    ……………………………………………………………………..
    Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves …
    politically we are the aggressors and they defend
    themselves… The country is theirs, because they
    inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle
    down, and in their view we want to take away from
    them their country.
    ……………………………………………………………………..
    If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an
    agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken
    their country. It is true God promised it to us, but
    how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs.
    There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler,
    Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but
    one thing: we have come and we have stolen
    their country. Why would they accept that?
    ……………………………………………………………………..

  • Helen4Yemen

    Ken Livingstone:

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    “The creation of the state of Israel was a great
    catastrophe. We should have absorbed the
    post-World War II Jewish refugees in Britain
    and America. They could all have been resettled,
    whereas 70 years later, the situation is still very
    tense, and there is potential for many more wars,
    potential for nuclear war.
    (Interviewed by Al-Ghad Al-Arabi, MAY 2016)