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/r/ConservativesOnly has fallen. (self.ConservativeMeta)

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The sub that was originally created during the primaries in response to pro-Trump mods running /r/Conservative with an iron fist has now been ruined by newly converted pro-Trump mods running /r/ConservativesOnly with an iron fist.

There are currently no subreddits for conservatives where they can safely openly criticize Trump.

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[–]Berend09 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

r/NeverTrump has decent posts here and there. Still no word from any of the mods on my permaban from r/conservative

The Ministry of Truth is doing a fine job with infiltrating and silencing conservative discussion. These supporters think protecting their king with blind allegiance will produce a victory. I expect them to double down on the censorship rather than any introspection when Conald loses.

[–]Gavin1123 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why don't you do something about /r/conservative? You're a mod there, and pretty high up the list.

[–]19683dw 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

One mod tried, he was removed by the founder and everyone else's permissions were changed to lesser status.

[–]Gavin1123 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm starting to think it's a conspiracy theory. The Admins put TK in charge to run the sub like shit to make conservatives look bad.

[–]DanburyBaptist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wouldn't surprise me at this point.

[–]Deathless-Bearer 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's a shame, the stickied post that is saying that NeverTrumpers and their views aren't welcome has it's comments disabled so it can't even be debated.

But if r/conservativesonly says NeverTrump isn't welcome then I'm not welcome and will promptly be unsubbing.

[–]Berend09 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which would be appropriate if it was called r/NationalistOnly

Trump has certainly earned the Republican brand, but to pretend he is a conservative is pathetic. These mods are shitting on everything our founders and so many patriots risked/lost their lives for.

[–]Not_Cleaver 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I refuse to believe that another conservative sub has fallen to Trump. Let us redouble our efforts to fight for conservatism against Trumpism. We'll be needed to pick up the pieces once Trump costs us everything in November.

At least r/Republican and r/conservatives still exist.

[–]J_Schafe13 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's pretty sad when r/Republican is more conservative than r/conservative.

[–]JackBond1234 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just got banned and 3-day mod-muted for calling the idea that "3rd-party = Hillary" a lie.

If "conservatives" are THAT afraid of mild dissent from the moderation's personal beliefs, especially in refusing to support a liberal trashbag, I don't want any part of their sub.

This is why we need libertarianism, not Trump. The remnants of the Republican party have become authoritarian monsters who know nothing of conservatism and need their liberal safe spaces.

[–]bypathmeadow 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Well, r/conservatives seems relatively welcome to debate. Hopefully that doesn't change.

[–]Yosoff[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (12子コメント)

When that sub first started it was full of liberal trolls, I'll have to check it out to see if they have fixed their issues.

[–]bypathmeadow 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, wonderful. I've been banned from r/conservative and r/ConservativesOnly, so I hope I didn't jinx it.

Edit: Nevermind. Apparently, at least one of the mods at r/conservatives doesn't like facts or disagreement on the subreddit, but does like the peddling of conspiracy theories. So I've been banned there to.

[–]IBiteYou 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Dude.

[–]Yosoff[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm talking about before you were even a mod there.

It used to be ran by people like barosa.

[–]bypathmeadow 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

No, you were right the first time. Perhaps not liberal trolls, but there's something wrong there.

[–]Yosoff[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I haven't been there in a long time. When it originally started up half the mods were also mods at /r/ShitRConservativeSays. A couple of them were openly hostile towards all conservatives and one was only conservative by Canadian standards. It was mostly a sub where liberals could bash on conservatives without worrying about being banned.

From what I can tell it looks A LOT better than it used to be. It looks like keypuncher took control and got rid of all the troll mods.

[–]bypathmeadow 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, like I said perhaps there are no longer troll mods, but I got banned just for trying to be factual and for disagreeing with people peddling conspiracy theories. Meh.

[–]Clatsop -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I hate to say you may be a shill, but you may be a shill.

[–]bypathmeadow 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well since you have no evidence of that, you should hate to say it.

Anyway, you're using shill to mean what exactly? Does it now just mean non-sensational? That's just sad.

I guess if I peddled in conspiracy theories like Trump supporters and posted stupid memes all the time, I'd be better off.

Edit: Wow, you ban me from the Meta subreddit leaving me nowhere to go challenge my ban(s).

What is the point you're trying to make below? Each one of those bans was not for breaking any rules of the subreddits, and I have the conversations to prove it. So what rule did I break here?

It seems to me you've just entirely ignored trying to prove your assertion after being challenged on it.

[–]Clatsop -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You have now been banned at /r/Conservative, /r/conservatives, and /r/ConservativesOnly, by three different mods.

Strike three you're out.

[–]martin519 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where does one go for centrist discussion and a place to discuss conservative policy proposals? One that isn't an anti-liberal circlejerk. Does such a place exist?

[–]CherryCokeNixon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Got myself banned by /r/ConservativesOnly by going out in a blaze of glory, pointing out exactly what /u/Yosoff said.

Still a member of /r/Conservative, but that subreddit isn't full of shitposts and actually has interesting discussions.

[–]Clatsop 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The reports of /r/ConservativesOnly demise are greatly exaggerated. We are still picking up subscribers, and are on track for our best traffic month since May.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ConservativesOnly/about/traffic/

It's just not going to be NeverTrump headquarters anymore. We are going to lean more towards NeverHillary.

Thank goodness the NeverTrumpers did not get their way!

Trump is not a conservative thoroughbred, but he sure the hell is no Hillary Clinton.

[–]Yosoff[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's sad that we had to pay such a high price for his victory. Weak-willed conservatives turning on those who maintained their principles and embracing the ethno-nationalist alt-right instead. Sad.

[–]PumaplayssdClassical Liberal (Constitutional Conservative) 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

r/EaglesAreConservative exist, so if that is your place to go, its run by Dan and IronPath

They were lit last time I saw them

[–]martin519 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nice looking sub but there's only 19 users. I guess you've gotta start somewhere tho, right?

[–]PumaplayssdClassical Liberal (Constitutional Conservative) 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ye be a bit late, but yeah, go ahead yar

[–]sirel 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm assuming you got downvoted because Giants and Cowboy fans don't like Eagles...

Otherwise it seems pretty petty to downvote someone offering an alternative...

[–]PumaplayssdClassical Liberal (Constitutional Conservative) 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, it has more to do with Bald Eagles then that horrid football team

[–]chabanais -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Apparently the N. Korean takeover is complete!

[–]PumaplayssdClassical Liberal (Constitutional Conservative) 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, we all know Kim is to fat to take "over" anything

[–]Clatsop[M] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (20子コメント)

The reports of /r/ConservativesOnly demise are greatly exaggerated. We are still picking up subscribers, and are on track for our best traffic month since May.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ConservativesOnly/about/traffic/

It's just not going to be NeverTrump headquarters anymore. We are going to lean more towards NeverHillary.

If you are a NeverTrumper, there is already a sub for you... /r/NeverTrump

[–]Not_Cleaver 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Why does it have to lean one way or the other? I'm NeverTrump, but it's now clear that Hillary's health is a bigger issue than it first appeared. Though I'm still not sure it lends credence to all the conspiracy theories about her health.

In any case, conservatives of both the NeverTrump and Trump variety should be able to discuss their differences and similarities on a sub without having to retreat to their respective safe spaces.

Edit: This comment got me banned from r/ConservativesOnly.

[–]Clatsop 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Now you are banned from /r/Conservative & /r/ConservativesOnly...

Why does it have to lean one way or the other?

Because #NeverHillary is more important than #NeverTrump.

[–]Not_Cleaver 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

But that's your opinion. My opinion is that Trump is a bigger threat to the Republican Party, conservatism, and the country.

Both opinions are valid and can be backed up by factual evidence. That's why subs exist to engender discussion. It would be boring if we agreed 100 percent. Unless it's acrimonious personal attacks, discussion and even arguments should be encouraged.

[–]Berend09 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

100% unanimous support isn't discussion it's called propaganda. These mods would be better off employed by Breitbart if they aren't already. At least they pay you to ruin the conservative cause!

[–]Clatsop -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because #NeverHillary is more important than #NeverTrump.

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But that's your opinion.

http://i.imgur.com/dqT0th8.jpg

[–]Not_Cleaver 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's your point? That because my opinion may conflict with the majority opinion of the mod team (not all of those mods are NeverHillary though); that it justifies a ban? That is not nearly enough.

The only qualifier about posting in a conservative sub should be whether someone is a conservative or not. And even then there should be some latitude so we can convert moderates to conservatism. There are plenty of conservative reasons to be against Trump (was going to say vote Johnson, but that Aleppo blanking was disturbing). Just as, and I almost hate to say it, there are conservative reasons to be for Trump and there are plenty of conservative and other justifiable reasons to be against Clinton.

But saying a conservative must support or be against X candidate is not conservatism.

[–]PumaplayssdClassical Liberal (Constitutional Conservative) 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Clatsop, you seem to be on a power (whatever it is)

Is everything ok? As a Trump supporter, you seem... different

[–]Clatsop 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am quite fine.

I was never a NeverTrumper.

I just see defeating Hillary as more important than ideological purity.

I am most definitely not a Trump supporter... I am only a reluctant Trump voter.

I think he was a horrible choice for the Republican nominee.

I just think Hillary is worse.

Edit: Changed "I am only a reluctant Trump supporter" to "I am only a reluctant Trump voter" .

[–]PumaplayssdClassical Liberal (Constitutional Conservative) 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So like me, I respect that

[–]bjacks12 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're a sellout and a piece of shit.

[–]Berend09 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To put things in perspective, when conservatives criticize George Bush Jr that doesn't mean they endorsed John Kerry. Too bad the current candidate makes Bush look like Goldwater and has the potential to do even more damage to conservatives than he did. When Hillary dies are you going to still use her ghost as a reason to get behind Trump?

[–]sirel 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah, you and Propshaft are certianly making sure that anyone who disagrees with you don't feel welcome.

Sticky your point of view long enough and I'm certian eventually you will get positive karma on something.

[–]Clatsop -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Nobody gives a shit about karma...

[–]Berend09 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

And that only got him a 3 day ban. Good to know racism is not as bad as anti trump beliefs.

[–]sirel 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You have been banned from participating in /r/ConservativesOnly. You can still view and subscribe to /r/ConservativesOnly, but you won't be able to post or comment. If you have a question regarding your ban, you can contact the moderator team for /r/ConservativesOnly by replying to this message. Reminder from the Reddit staff: If you use another account to circumvent this subreddit ban, that will be considered a violation of the Content Policy and can result in your account being suspended from the site as a whole.

Hey /u/clatsop /u/propshaft - it is worth pointing out that /u/chabanais doesn't ban people for posting here.

[–]chabanais -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs7/2532644_o.gif

[–]sirel 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude, take the complement - I get that it is rare so you might not be used to it, but I was actually giving you kudos.

[–]sirel 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tis true, but still it is pretty embarrassing how all your sticky posts are downvoted to oblivion. Almost as if people are trying to tell you something.

[–]bjacks12 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to respect you. You're fucking disgusting now.