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Locking this temporarily. Most everyone who was around for feeds has gotten to weigh in and we're starting to see traffic from unrelated subreddits.

I imagine there will be some strong opinions in this thread. Please keep the discussion within the bounds of Reddiquette.

[–]trickto 300 ポイント301 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Kevin's kid put out a statement

[–]Christmasbackswamphenny 129 ポイント130 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is really nice. I'm glad they got this out so fast so Kevin would not face any backlash for simply not hearing the context of what Cody was saying.

Also, even the fact that they made this statement even thought Kevin was barely apart of this whole scene is proof that Kevin is a good human who raised his children to be the same way.

[–]PaulJPLangley 154 ポイント155 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm glad Kevin's family is able to come to his defense incredibly quickly.

[–]Suuperdad 98 ポイント99 ポイント  (1子コメント)

His kids coming so quickly to his defence is such strong evidence that Kevin is a standup guy and standup father.

[–]Codyfanogen 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or at least one of his daughters in aware of how toxic the BB community can be.

[–]PaulSpizz96 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pure class, Kevin raised his kids the right way.

[–]youre_real_uriel 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think Kevin has proven his open mindedness in the house numerous times already, and his comment after Cody's rant is probably one of those times, choosing to inject some measure of positivity into a negative conversation. I can see how some would be angry with how it appeared, but his son nails my feelings on the issue - "he's got a good point" was likely a reaction to the closing line of Cody's rant. No one expects Cody to champion any progressive cause. I certainly don't.

[–]Christmasnot1fuk 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The dude last night was giggling and playing around with Ramses and being very open with him. Kevin has proven he is open minded towards other people. I'm pissed Kevin is getting lumped in with this idiot.

[–]OkaySeriouslyBro 259 ポイント260 ポイント  (9子コメント)

So the cool kids formed a alliance primarily based off of showmances and are now saying shit that's gonna get them in serious trouble after the show?

BB15 is here again

[–]JessicaiiPinkShake 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah but the difference is, Aaryn / Kaitlyn / GM / Jeremy were all pitching into the racism, here it's only Cody. Raven / Jessica / Elena / Mark / Mat haven't really said anything (Minus Elena and Matt's yellow asian comments)

[–]Codybohtany 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

What were Elena and Matt's comments? This is the first I'm hearing of them.

[–]That Kevin Martinjtsang98 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly didn't find Elena and Matt's comments to be "racist". They were just referring Alex as the "Asian girl".

[–]apardee87 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL such serious trouble. Im sure hes already ruined. /sarcasm

[–]Leftoflinus 118 ポイント119 ポイント  (0子コメント)

After watching Cody the first two episodes this doesn't shock me one bit, what does shock me is that Jessica microwaves sliced cheese on bread.

[–]edanpat 121 ポイント122 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Tbh I'm most impressed with Jessica in this scene - it's obvious that she wants to show that she doesn't agree with him while also not wanting to break the alliance they've formed

[–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same. You can tell she is clearly uncomfortable.

[–]TwinkleSprinkle27 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

She awkwardly laughed off her obvious discomfort with Cody's statements. How is that impressive?

And why would you automatically assume their alliance would end if Jessica spoke up to him?? There are endless ways to disagree with someone without it becoming contentious.

[–]JessicaEggplantboii_77 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean a few days ago Jessica tried to tell him that he shouldn't sacrifice himself for the Alliance and approaching Alex next week was bad and he called her a pussy, they didn't talk for the rest of day, and he told people he didn't care what she thinks.

[–]Monicashewaspushed 76 ポイント77 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oops he's recancelled

[–]Shelbydan102595 127 ポイント128 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I posted this in the live feed discussion but I'm going to post it here as well:

Honestly the worst thing about Cody's comments wasn't just the fact that they were ignorant and wrong, but you could tell it came from a complete place of intolerance and hate. It wasn't a joke gone wrong, it was super cruel. Not a good look at all.

[–]WatcherOfStores 124 ポイント125 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Yeesh, CBS reality shows ain't too good for the transgender people this year.

[–]ShelbyGhastliestPayload 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (11子コメント)

To be fair, Survivor nipped the transgender insensitivity in the butt almost immediately, and it didn't affect Zeke's game whatsoever after the fact.

[–]perksofbeinghc 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Uh it's not production's fault but Varner definitely ruined Zeke's game completely when he outed him.

[–]ShelbyGhastliestPayload 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (8子コメント)

What are you talking about? Zeke ruined his own game when he went all gung-ho on campaigning to vote Andrea and sowed distrust within his own alliance.

Never once did another player say they voted out Zeke because he was transgender.

[–]Druuu9696 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No one was letting Zeke near the end after Varner's outing of him. Too strong a story. That said, Zeke would of blown up his own game as we saw (he sort of did) either way. He is not good at Survivor, no patience.

[–]ShelbyGhastliestPayload 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. Great personality, great narrator, but I feel he has terrible timing when he should make big moves.

[–]Codyfanogen 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you listen to his RHAP interview he said that after that tribal the vibes from the rest of the cast were off and even his former allies weren't talking game with him. Nobody wanted to go to the end with him because of the perceived sympathy vote. Other interviews give credibility to this.

[–]ShelbyGhastliestPayload 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hmm, I have not seen the interview, but if you are correct, then that's shitty. I can imagine production wanted to contain the incident, and the editing shows that they did. Whether or not the incident had no lasting effect I suppose is up to debate. I'll concede I might be wrong.

[–]Codyfanogen 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

How would they contain it? The other 5 people there immediately merged and the story would have gotten out on how a 3 time player didn't make the merge AGAIN. So Zeke decided to be open about it and just tell everyone that Varner outed him. It was in the next episode. I would really recommend listening to that interview if you are interested in how production handles something like that. Zeke had nothing but praise for Jeff and the Survivor team.

[–]ShelbyGhastliestPayload 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I meant contain as far as the editing of the show was concerned. They really focused on it in that episode and then the next where he told everyone else. However, it was not a point of focus the rest of the season.

[–]Codyfanogen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I think it would have just made the rest of the cast look bad because they were "teaming up on the trans guy" if they showed the conversations following that announcement. Apparently they happened though because a lot of the interviews from players that made the merge address it.

[–]That Kevin Martinjtsang98 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Survivor Spoilers?

The transgender stuff effected Zeke's game immensely. No one was ever going to take him to the end no matter what because of his story. He basically would've needed to win out from the Final 10 if he ever wanted a chance to make it to Final Tribal Council.

[–]BigPoppaPuff 76 ポイント77 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Jeff Schroeder thought having a headmaster of a children's school being a gay character was "perverted", he didn't have gay tendencies because he didn't ask to fondle Harry's balls, and wrong and couldn't understand why Kaliah would think it's not a big deal. And he has a lifetime gig on CBS and is still a fan favorite.

[–]JessicaQuiddity131 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It goes to show that it is not so much the opinion, but rather who expresses it that dictates the level of outrage. As we've seen with Jeff or Jason in BBOTT, if you are a member of the Big Brother "elite" you can say anything and get forgiven.

Not that anything Cody said is defensible, its just that the double standard is quite infuriating.

[–]Alextowerofstrength 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck that homophobe I don't see what the appeal is in him

[–]Christmasportastudio 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was then, this is now.

[–]ELScorcho19 219 ポイント220 ポイント  (30子コメント)

Him having this opinion proves he's a bad person.

Him sharing this opinion with millions of people proves he's an idiot.

[–]losterps 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, lots of people who go on this show are.

[–]CodyJoshG1328 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Having this opinion doesn't make you a bad person. The way he expressed it was disrespectful, but it doesn't automatically make him a terrible person or "trash". I think it is worse for a person to judge someone based off one of their opinions.

[–]ChristmasStangerous 212 ポイント213 ポイント  (19子コメント)

His comments were entirely anti-trans and the tone he used was disturbingly cruel. This isn't a Cody is a robot meme, he actually comes across as heartless.

[–]Bridgettezotsandcrambles 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well he doesn't really care about things in general. He just doesn't have time for social movements and politics I think. The guy is consistently detached. Transphobic I think is a bit too narrow of a definition for what he is.

[–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh Cody absolutely cares about politics and social movements. So much so that he decided to fly out to Ferguson for the riots that he said he enjoyed. He's really just a bad person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY8MIsFJO48

[–]CodyRustymike69 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He didn't comment specifically on the riots though, or whether or not he thought Michael Brown was innocent. Ferguson was so much of a crime-ridden shithole that it made national news. This doesn't prove that he's racist, just that he's a fuckin nutter and has fun in violent situations. Ferguson was literally burning, so a psycho like Cody wanted to go because he thinks it's fun. Your example doesn't prove that he cares about social movements or politics all that much.

Also, based on the context of the conversation, he might have just made that up as some kind of dark joke

[–]rickohwhens 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think cody is pretty black or white: he either likes something or he doesnt. not much grey area with him.

Take it or leave it. Most people leave it.

[–]Boogiejonpa 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I certainly wouldn't categorize Cody as empathetic, caring, or open-minded, however my interpretation of these comments is that they seem far more rooted in ignorance than in hatred.

His views towards transexual individuals are certainly disgustingly archaic, ill-informed, and representative of his intolerance, but too many people seem to find comfort/solace in merely labeling him a piece of shit and directing hatred in his direction. While this resentment is understandable, it is also incredibly hypocritical; if you expect others to make an effort to understand your personal identity and world view, it would seem that you ought to make the same efforts on your part. Hate breeds hate and serves no purpose in breaking down the barriers of misunderstanding.

This is not to defend Cody's views, as I vehemently disagree with what he's said, but I just believe it's important to understand how greatly one's religion, ideology, family, and friends mold who they are as a person, and further how difficult it is to challenge oneself to change perspective.

If you find the outlet of anger cathartic that is fine, but that hatred is doing very little to reduce the misunderstandings these people hold.

[–]MatthewAnarchyPlus 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wholeheartedly agree. Hating on Cody won't make him or other people like him understand the transgender community or any other marginalized community. If you educate, you do a lot more service to your cause

[–]Christmasnonemoorblack 80 ポイント81 ポイント  (23子コメント)

I'm so glad Audrey was on BB17. I'd hate to think how she would've been treated on another season.

This isn't surprising from Cody, but seriously, what an asshole.

[–]Bridgettezotsandcrambles 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He may have acted different had he met her. Sometimes these opinions come from a lack of exposure and not active hatred. The whole world was anti gay and trans 80 years ago, and it's not like the human race has evolved fundamentally - it's just exposure.

[–]Christmasnonemoorblack 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't believe that would be the case with Cody. He seems like someone very stuck in his views. However, I think that was the case with people like Clay and James.

[–]KevinSte5anie 79 ポイント80 ポイント  (12子コメント)

It honestly breaks my heart there will always be people like Cody who believe those thoughts. Disgusting.

[–]DominiquePreJuryFlop 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe there will always be people like Cody but the number of them will regress. Just like how homosexuality is now more accepted than 2 decades ago. Ofc we still have a long way to go but hey, it's progress and it's gonna continue.

[–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just read some of the comments here. Lots of people share his opinion unfortunately.

[–]Markcbratty 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Are we surprised?

[–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 94 ポイント95 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nope, but I'll be damned if I leave it undocumented.

[–]Echost 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm always surprised with how surprised/shocked/horrified people are. Not to say that his views aren't wrong, but I guess because I'm surrounded by people with these views all the time. In fact, I think I might not know anyone else personally who isn't transphobic. Except my fiance, and I had to work at that.

My fiance didn't know anything about trans people until he met me. It was more than just not understanding it, it was a learned hatred. But he isn't an inherently hateful person at all, so as soon as we talked about it and I exposed him more and more to the reality of trans people he was more accepting of it. And now he wouldn't let anyone be transphobic around him.

There is still so much work to be done in the real world to get rid of transphobia.

[–]Justice4Jackie 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Nothing about Cody's comments are interesting. PLEASE DO NOT GET ME WRONG. I'm gay and a trans ally.

What is interesting, for better or worse, is that Cody's one of the first meninist, macho, possibly racist (hear his story about Ferguson?) He's like all the worst pro-man sub-Reddits in human form.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that while I know BB wouldn't do this because they wouldn't want a repeat of 15, openly bigoted speech has come more into fashion these days, if you know what I mean. Did they cast him to follow a trend, like they do so often?

[–]MarkAprilismissing 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (7子コメント)

The Ferguson thing was so disturbing to me. Made him seem like a real sociopath.

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    [–]Dominiquepaaaapillon 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He said he flew in for the Ferguson riots and pretended to be homeless for an interview. All just to see if he could survive.

    [–]Justice4Jackie 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Supposedly he went there during the riots to "see if he could survive." He dressed up like a homeless man or something. The connotation was, like it was with so many bigots, was, "These people sure are stupid."

    [–]Christmasxymandopex 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I understand some fans are going overboard by trying to get Cody fired (that I disagree with), but man am I glad he is receiving backlash for this. I will always be happy when people show vocal disagreement to bigoted comments because 10-15 years ago a lot of people wouldn't bat an eye to comments like this. And it's so important to stand up for what we believe in given the current political climate. I really can't wait for Cody to leave now.

    [–]Matthewphillymutt 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I dont expect him to know that tranny is not a proper term. Other then that there isnt much here. He is right that trans people shouldnt care what he thinks, and gender dysmophia is a psychological issue.

    [–]demerchmichael 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    aaaaaaaaaaand boom, theres my ticket out from liking him.

    [–]Codyfadadapple 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    To be honest this is bad, but isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. He shows ignorance of transgender people by giving a lower percentage than actually exist. Then he just says he doesn't care or sympathize with their "cause" (it's a condition, not really a thing you just choose to be). Not caring is a lot better than overt hate. He just needs to be educated on the subject and he can come to a place of understanding.

    Edit: his tone was really condescending though.

    [–]NakomisTheSaintRyan 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I mean he also used a slur but..........

    [–]jstitely1 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Did I hear Matt say "he's got a good point."?

    Edit: been told it was Kevin, but still wasn't expecting to hear that at all.

    [–]wanderingcanuck96 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Cody's stated that his point was the trans community doesn't or should't care about his opinion.

    That is actually a good point.

    [–]Bridgettezotsandcrambles 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah it's never affected him and he hasn't been exposed to it. I think if he did meet someone and interact with them he might be a little less rash.

    [–]youre_real_uriel 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That was Kevin

    [–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I heard that too. I THINK it was Kevin but I'm not sure.

    [–]MarkKlassics 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I feel like Kevin just meant he has a good point as far as Cody really doesn't care what people think.

    I don't think Kevin has a problem but hey who knows

    [–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm not a HUGE Kevin fan, but I'm not going to hold much weight to what he said. Sometimes people say stuff they don't mean in awkward situations like that. Even if he is transphobic, there isn't enough to back it up with that comment alone, so I'll leave it alone.

    [–]jstitely1 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think he meant it poorly either for what its worth. It was just a weird conversation in general.

    Edit: apparently stating what you heard is a crime now. Ok reddit

    [–]d3phext 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Jessica as a fan knows how problematic that is, hence the hand over his mouth.

    That being the case, if she carries on with him for even another 6 hours, I can't respect her one bit.

    Best case scenario to arise from this is the "jilted lover" Cody, because it will be so messy. I really hope Jessica has the character to make that come to fruition.

    e: and since I took it there, let's talk game! Jessica can't call him out for it before renom because she knows she could go OTB if he blows up. If she's smart and wants to cut ties with him already, then that is a crazy place to be.

    [–]IHavewaytoomanyaccou 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Same people losing their shit over this were the same people saying hateful shit about megan leaving.

    [–]KevinZeplbeatleflo 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I think the majority of us can agree that Megan has legitimized her exit after she revealed the PTSD and the fact CBS encouraged her to leave. You're comparing us getting mad over someone taking Cameron's/another person’s spot vs a houseguest making comments that are related to hot and contraversial issues.

    [–]Christmasheyireallydontlikeya 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (33子コメント)

    He's from Texas. This isn't a shocker.

    [–]RamsesBradleyNowellLives 123 ポイント124 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    I'm from Texas and seriously I don't really know ANY transphobic people (that are my age). Being from Texas isn't an excuse. He's just an asshole.

    [–]Wheat KneeHalloween-Havoc 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Totally. The Aaryn "I'm from Texas" excuse is such a crock of shit.

    [–]rdiaz2013 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Right?! I've lived in Texas my whole life and I've never said anything like that. They need to stop with the "It's Texas" excuse bc it makes us look bad.

    [–]CodyUnitedSurvivorNation 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Depends where you live in Texas. Austin is pretty liberal, but this guy lives in an extremely conservative environment.

    [–]Dominiquejkalay 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I remember Cody saying he hates Austin and the "hippies" there on the feeds last night. It was very revealing.

    [–]PaulAdsso1 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    everyone in texas hates austin

    [–]madison_wolf 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I live about an hour away from where Cody lives and I wouldn't say it's an extremely conservative environment he's just being an ignorant asshole.

    [–]Will Kirbypurpleflowergang 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Can you and your friends apply for BB? I kind of feel bad for Texas, because whatever casting pool they use for your state is terrible.

    Trying to think of BB Texans who haven't been problematic and all I can come up with is Libra.

    [–]RamsesBradleyNowellLives 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Ian lives in Houston :) I feel like they probably cast the more conservative awful Texans because it's more stereotypical / fits in a category. Like "I'm just a good southern Texan girl!" They're very about type-casting in BB so maybe that's where it comes from.

    [–]Will Kirbypurpleflowergang 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I forgot about Ian! That gives me hope.

    eta: I also forgot Nakomis! And Devin was from California, but didn't he live in Texas? For all his faults, I can't remember anything hateful.

    [–]THEsolid85 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sure you do. They just don't announce it out loud.

    [–]That Kevin Martingiraffeaquarium 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ugh, I hate this statement. Texas has lots of progressive people, we aren't even close to being the most conservative state.

    [–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Has nothing to do with it being a shocker or not. If he doesn't want scrutiny for his hateful opinions, he shouldn't go on a reality TV show.

    [–]Christmasheyireallydontlikeya 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    It's not that everyone who has a different opinion than you shouldn't go on reality TV... I've grown up in a Blue State my entire life and I'm proud to say I understand and respect all walks of life. However, I know that people (typically in the Bible Belt) have these opinions because they haven't been exposed to these types of lifestyles. I'd rather he not be vocal about his bigotry (if he really has a problem with it). But if he decides to keep opening his mouth, he'll have to reap what he sews.

    [–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I don't have sympathy for people who hate the LGBTQ+ community and have the defense of "Hey!!!! I live in a Texas!!!!! It's normal here!!!!!"

    I lived in a heavily conservative environment my whole life. I went to Christian school. All of the people in my life shared these same opinions. I'm still not a piece of shit who hates LGBTQ+ people because I have a brain and compassion.

    [–]Christmasheyireallydontlikeya 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I'm happy that you are able to see through others' BS and are able to form your own opinions despite them being different than those around you. A lot of the LGBTQ+ hate stems from the bible (big reason why I'm an anti-theist) and down south is typically where that kind of stuff goes on.

    By no means am I defending his language and I'm happy others are condemning it, but I've resigned myself to knowing that there are people with these views and there's very little we can do about it unfortunately.

    I DIDN'T MEAN CONDONING I MEAN CONDEMNING. sorry brain fart

    [–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nah yeah I can tell you aren't condoning it, just offering a different way of looking at people who are anti-trans. I can respect that.

    [–]Christmasnonemoorblack 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Hey now. Texas is full of blue major cities.

    [–]Christmasheyireallydontlikeya 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I don't think everyone in Texas is conservative and has these view & I hope my post didn't come off that way. Texas has blessed us with amazing HGs (the Willett's, for example). However, Texas is primarily conservative so it's just not shocking that he would have these views. By no means do I think that all Texans are like this (I've met some wonderful Texans myself), I'm just saying that it doesn't come as a MASSIVE shocker to me.

    [–]Christmasnonemoorblack 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    No worries, I get what you mean. :)

    Texas is interesting. There are a lot of conservatives, but I've probably met more liberal people there than I have in states that are considered blue.

    [–]Christmasheyireallydontlikeya 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Haha awesome. I live in New York (Long Island) and the only people who I find to lean conservative are the much older people. The younger generation is almost entirely liberal here. It's more upstate NY where it's conservative but the state never goes Red because of NYC.

    [–]Christmasnonemoorblack 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I wonder if that can happen to Texas as it gets more diverse and more young people are able to vote. The problem is gerrymandering, and people not being motivated to vote. Sorry to get so political, lol.

    [–]MatthewAnarchyPlus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It's cause a lot of our major urban cities like Austin are concentrated areas of Democrats.

    [–]Christmasnonemoorblack 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    True, but honestly that seems to be the case in a lot of states, red or blue. Texas has the potential to go blue in the future.

    [–]MatthewAnarchyPlus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's honestly very close right now. The thing is the majority of the blue voting base, doesn't go out and vote

    [–]Elenaway-harsh-tai 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And? I'm from the deepest red part of South Carolina and I don't say transphobic and insensitive shit. It isn't a shocker to me that he said these things because of his background and "personality" but TX ain't the main cause...

    [–]Codytsrp 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He seems more apathetic about it than anything else.

    This is reaching, it's not like big Jeff's rant about Dumbledore being gay where he clearly felt strongly about it.

    [–]Joshmanmanchuck44 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    He shouldn't judge people for having a "psychological cause" when he's a fucking sociopath. He's disgusting.

    [–]Codyfanogen 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    people use sociopath way to fucking loosely.

    [–]RavenBoycu50 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thats how reddit works. If one person made a "Cody is a sociopath" comment and got laughs and a bunch of upvotes everyone joins in on the "joke" even though you could say it is just as insensitive to mock people with the actual disorder. If the first post about a trans person was negative and got upvoted with a bunch of laughs I wouldn't be surprised if a large majority of people on reddit followed suit and just claimed those that found it offensive are too sensitive or something.

    [–]Hinamine 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Do you even know what a sociopath is?

    [–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Can I please stop getting notifications from people saying that Cody said that solely out of ignorance and he didn't intend any malice behind it? The man FLEW TO FERGUSON MISSOURI to "enjoy" the riots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY8MIsFJO48

    He clearly isn't just ignorant, he has a very skewed world view in my opinion and it comes from a place of hate, not ignorance.

    [–]Radio Retaliationdiary_room 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you look above the first text box at the top of this thread, you can click the link "Disable Inbox Replies"

    [–]THE Ika Wongcox_the_fox 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How very Chris Kyle of him

    [–]PaulFlabberjackets 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I don't understand why everyone is freaking out? I read the transcripts, it doesn't seem like what he said was that bad. Does it look worse in video form?

    [–]THE Ika Wongdistractedtears 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Agreed. People are way too sensitive these days.

    [–]KevinZeplbeatleflo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes. Robot Cody showed a bit too much emotion in his comment. Also controversial due to the debate surrounding the slur. But the most heated thing to come out of this was the reactions of the viewers and the reactions of the reactions. I saw one dude on twitter make a joke that it was a shame he didn't die in the war. People are going to be attacking his family and employers too. On the other end, there are people spinning gender and mental illness arguments around and throwing in the hypocritical liberal label.

    [–]Christmasbackswamphenny 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Gross gross gross. Hope he leaves soon.

    [–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (24子コメント)

    [–]MarkApriKot 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (23子コメント)

    Anyone who calls for someone to lose their job over their personal beliefs is over the top and out of line. He is entitled to his opinion, even if it's wrong.

    Edited to correct the "Freedom of Speech" bit and also:

    So let's think of it this way: Let me start writing down every Non-PC thing you've said and turn it into your employer.

    I know there are plenty of times where I've been joking about non-PC things that I didn't believe when commenting on the way others think. If I had been at work, I obviously wouldn't have said that.

    Everything has consequences but trying to get someone fired for an off hand comment they didn't fully think through is very over the top, my friend.

    We are not on camera 24/7 and we should not hold these people on this show to extreme standards. They are people. They are flawed. We need to give them room to breathe and be people. This is a social experiment where they are in unrealistic scenarios and under intense pressure.

    I'm not a Cody fan by any means, but it doesn't mean I'm going to hold him to the fire when he says things that I don't agree with, even when it's ugly.

    [–]Wuzhisname 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences. Aaryn lost her job for saying racist things. She had every right to say whatever her dumb big blonde head said. Consequently, she lost her job.

    [–]Feed KittensswagmiIf 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You have freedom to say whatever you want but it doesn't excuse you from the consequences.

    [–]CameronBobbyOnTheRadio 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's not how freedom of speech works. Freedom of speech grants people the freedom from government interference in speech, not the freedom from private interference (other people, employers, etc.) in speech.

    [–]Danielle ReyesAstroman129 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Do you know what freedom of speech even is? You can't be persecuted by the government for your beliefs. Freedom of speech won't protect you from losing your job or other consequences of saying stupid shit.

    Edited in response:

    Of course it's horrible and shitty to single-handedly pinpoint everything Cody (or anyone else) has said and turn it into a huge debacle with their employer. In my humble opinion, the main issue isn't about being PC or not, it's about having other peoples' well-being at heart. If someone wouldn't say something in a certain context because they'd offend people, that probably means it's a pretty bad idea to say it in any context, not just for the fear of offending others but because there's a reason it offends them.

    You can go "free speech vs freedom of speech" all day but it can get real draining and exhausting to have educated, clear discussions with people when A) they get defensive and start attacking you because they think you're attacking them, and B) they try and limit their newfound knowledge to particular circumstances, e.g. "I'm around transgender people, maybe I shouldn't say they're sick!" vs. "Now I understand why trans people are upset by being called sick, I'll avoid calling them that in every circumstance!"

    Free speech (as deemed different from "freedom of speech") has absolutely no utility when people aren't receptive to it. Calling Cody's employer isn't gonna teach him anything, but people probably assume he'll never learn anything anyway because he doesn't seem to care. Whether he cares or not, I don't know and I don't think anyone else actually does, and I'll never defend people calling an employer to get them fired for saying dumb shit, but let's not pretend this is gonna open up a dialogue for a learning experience for Cody or anything.

    [–]CodyJoshG1328 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    To insert my opinion, I don't believe that Cody holding this opinion automatically makes him a bad person or necessarily even transphobic. Personally, I will never hate anyone holding a differing opinion to mine on a controversial topic, which is why I believe the title calling him "trash" and many of the comments calling him a disgusting person are unfair. Based on just this context alone, you can't clearly tell whether or not Cody is transphobic or just ignorant.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but what angered most people I believe is that he said that he isn't sympathetic to their "psychological cause". This is what leads me to believe that Cody is perhaps just ignorant to the topic and not transphobic. Gender dysphoria is the issue that transgender men and women have, which I was not even aware of until doing research upon it, making me ignorant prior to my limited research.

    I'm trying to be unbiased, and I believe the way that Cody expressed his beliefs was disrespectful, especially considering that "tranny" can come across as a derogatory slur. However I believe you should all take into mind the possibility that he is just not properly educated on the subject.

    Edit: Please PM me if you'd like to discuss now that the thread is locked.

    [–]JessicaNaharke31 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yep this gonna blown way tf outta proportion.

    [–]AlexLoneWolfOfTheCalla 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Is there a transcript? I can barely hear over the bag crinkling.

    [–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Jessica: You would have to tape your dick down, for sure.

    Cody: H-How does one tape his dick down?

    Jessica: I don't know, isn't that a thing?

    Cody: Maybe for trannies, yeah.

    Jessica: (Uncomfortable laugh)

    Cody: Do you really think I can give a shit that like .00000 fuckin' 1 percent of the population is fuckin' trannies, and - I don't give a fuck.

    Jessica: Cody!

    Cody: I-I-I-I-I promise you, they're not expecting me to really fuckin' sympathize with uh, with their psychological cause.

    Jessica: Lord

    Kevin: He's got a good point though, doesn't he?

    [–]MVD1600 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (14子コメント)

    Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. People need to stop being so damn sensitive.

    [–]Christmasnotaflan 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I very much doubt Cody even knows what gender dysphoria is so try again.

    [–]Danielle ReyesAstroman129 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    That's an extremely controversial issue. Homosexuality was a mental illness until 1973, then transgender was a mental illness until 2013(?). Gender dysphoria isn't the same thing as being transgender, to be fair, but there's a distinction between saying it's a mental illness and calling sufferers sick. Not to mention how many psychiatrists don't even agree with its categorization of a mental illness, if only because it stigmatizes the transgender community. The troubles are less about an individual's latent issues and more about society's stigma, so its categorization as a mental illness is sometimes debated.

    [–]Matthewronscot 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Gregory Hartl, a spokesman for the WHO, said the ICD-10 doesn’t really list being transgender as a mental health disease — even if it is located in that chapter.

    “The conditions in that block are not mental diseases, and gender incongruence is not classified as a mental disease — although that block is located inside the chapter ‘Mental and Behavioural Disorders,’” Hartl wrote in an email.

    [–]joeyolo74 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "All I want for Christmas is a season of big brother where we don't immediately become the moral police of the houseguest's actions and beliefs" (sang to the tune of the two front teeth song)

    [–]Ravenstv7 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Haven't watched the video (can't load it on my internet) but I'd like to offer a tip... from what I'm reading it seems like the comments come from a place of ignorance rather than a place of hatred. Even if not the case for Cody, anti-transgender views, for a lot of people, do come from ignorance.

    Calling people "TRASH" and basically implying that they should die helps absolutely nobody and just makes you look somewhat psychotic. If you want to change someone's views, attacking them for their ignorance is not the way to go about it and will not have the desired outcome, ever.

    Feel free to downvote, but outside of the SJW crowd that populates the BB fanbase pretty heavily, I know the majority agrees with me because it's how we are continuously becoming more accepting as a society.

    [–]Adenzia 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Maybe you shouldn't make comments on something you haven't watched, then.

    His tone was pure hatred, his words were pure hatred.

    [–]Karen Singbeilroom317 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Maybe don't use terms like the "SJW crowd." That's rude.

    [–]Ravenstv7 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I sincerely hope this is satire, lol

    [–]trashdelano 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Wow, what a piece of shit

    [–]DominiqueVivividy 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why am I not surprised that he said something like that?

    [–]dcwood13 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No tolerant piece of shit

    [–]PaulJPLangley 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    the robot is learning too much from 4chan and reddit

    Just kidding, that's awful

    [–]dsrage 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Real people sharing real opinions. Welcome to Big Brother and a small slice of the general public.

    [–]MeganScootersfood 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yep, I hate Cody again.

    [–]AlexJtiaRiceQueen 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (16子コメント)

    So let me preface this by saying: what he said was wrong, obviously.

    This sounds like it comes from a place of ignorance, not hate. Listen to how he discusses it: thinking trans women tape their dicks down and citing the population as 0.000001% of Americans. This guy grew up in Texas and enlisted in the Marines, I doubt he's ever met an actual trans person. Sometimes that's all it takes to change someone's mind.

    Also, he's basically saying he doesn't give a fuck, not that trans people need to be eradicated or anything

    [–]Rachel Reillypupperonijones 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (15子コメント)

    He insinuated they have a mental illness because they're transgender. That's a lot heavier than just not giving a fuck.

    [–]Elenatheluckstat 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Gender dysphoria is a mental illness though...

    I think Cody is a hateful bigot but him calling it a psychological disorder isn't what you should be taking issue with.

    [–]Kevinrosesareblu 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    HEY EVERYONE GENDER IS NOT BINARY AND IT'S FLUID AND YES WHILE SOME PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY AS TRANS MAY HAVE DYSPHORIA, NOT ALL DO - BECAUSE EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND WE CAN ALL EXPRESS OURSELVES HOW WE CHOOSE!!!!!

    So yes Cody is an asshole.

    And let's not talk about trans people as a monolith.

    Okay, all caps rant over.

    [–]Elenatheluckstat 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You know at some point word policing starts to have diminishing returns.

    [–]Paulcharlievog 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Thank you, r/rosesareblu. I'm trans and agree!! Sorry you're getting downvoted.

    [–]MVD1600 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Maybe it is a mental illness?

    [–]PaulAdsso1 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Its true tho

    Believing you are a different gender is a mental illness in the majority of the world

    Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. People need to stop being so damn sensitive.

    [–]orwll 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    He's correct. It is a mental illness.

    [–]Matthewronscot 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Gregory Hartl, a spokesman for the WHO, said the ICD-10 doesn’t really list being transgender as a mental health disease — even if it is located in that chapter.

    “The conditions in that block are not mental diseases, and gender incongruence is not classified as a mental disease — although that block is located inside the chapter ‘Mental and Behavioural Disorders,’” Hartl wrote in an email.

    [–]Will KirbyFuttBucker27 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    One guy's opinion doesn't make it fact. The truth is that a majority of the population deals with mental illness in one way or another. The problem with considering gender dysphoria a mental illness isn't that it creates a stigma around Trans people, it's that there's already a stigma around mental illness, when it's far more common than people think.

    [–]AlexJtiaRiceQueen 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Who cares? It just proves he doesn't understand the issue. That's my point.

    [–]Rachel Reillypupperonijones 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You can't always excuse someone's shitty behavior by saying they don't understand. A lot of people just choose to be hateful.

    [–]AlexJtiaRiceQueen 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Fine. But in my opinion the proper reaponse to this is to educate people, not to try and make them unemployable

    [–]CodyUnitedSurvivorNation 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    God forbid a houseguest sharing his opinion.

    [–]JessicaOreoIceCreamSandwich 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He can share his opinion all he wants.

    We have the right to react to it.

    [–]Britney HaynesRickJava 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    God forbid we hold people accountable for "opinions" that have been used to justify murder and strip minorities of their basic human rights.

    [–]RaiderRush2112 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Are we really going to have to go through shit like this again this year? LET HIM HAVE HIS OPINION!

    [–]CodyHellsWindStaff 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    He doesn't have to support your cause. Doesn't make him transphobic. Here's a fact: gender dysphoria is in DSM5. It's a mental illness. Transitioning is a cure or an alleviation to that. It's not transphobic to say that. Do what you want but I don't have to celebrate it or NOT call it for what it is.

    [–]Will KirbyDaksexual 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    He's not wrong that it's a mental illness but to say that he doesn't care is oretty cruel. If they are ill then they are the people you show xompassion too, especially when they are in such small numbers. but is anyone suprised by this opinion from him?

    [–]ithinkPOOP 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GETTTTT HIMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    [–]PaulAdsso1 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    what offensive thing did he say? tranny is offensive? thats what ive always called transvestites no one said shit

    [–]MeganScootersfood 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    For future reference, yes. That is considered an offensive term.

    [–]KevinZeplbeatleflo 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    1. Transvestite is not a transgender, but a person who dresses in the opposite sex. It's a term that could be offensive because it is often associated with cross dressing and disregards what being transgender really is.

    2. The exposure to the transgender community and history is not strong enough to establish the term as a slur to the majority of the population. In fact, some people in the community encouage it as slang, just like with other minority groups and their slurs/slang. It's a mistake made by many people who oftentimes have no problem and even support the community. I'm not surprised you haven't had any problems, but it is still good to know that that is considered a slur by many people.

    [–]asuessicalreference 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Aaryn part 2 except he's not even cute

    [–]Matthewronscot 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I think people like Cody who holds that kind of view are very uneducated and ignorant. They lack sophistication and could never mingle with intelligent people as they tend to be low-class and stupid.

    [–]THE Ika Wongdistractedtears 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I'm having a hard time hearing what he said. Can someone transcribe what he said?

    [–]MatthewNuslerosh[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Jessica: You would have to tape your dick down, for sure.

    Cody: H-How does one tape his dick down?

    Jessica: I don't know, isn't that a thing?

    Cody: Maybe for trannies, yeah.

    Jessica: (Uncomfortable laugh)

    Cody: Do you really think I can give a shit that like .00000 fuckin' 1 percent of the population is fuckin' trannies, and - I don't give a fuck.

    Jessica: Cody!

    Cody: I-I-I-I-I promise you, they're not expecting me to really fuckin' sympathize with uh, with their psychological cause.

    Jessica: Lord

    Kevin: He's got a good point though, doesn't he?

    [–]THE Ika Wongdistractedtears 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    How's that so bad?

    [–]godspeed312 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I understand it as why should he care if he says something that upsets such a small group of people.

    It's a small comment, but the backlash will probably be significant. Also there's a good chance he's never met a trans person.

    [–]RumblesFish 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Can't say I'm shocked by his comments. It was only a matter of time.

    [–]LarryP33 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This doesn't come off as a surprise at all.

    [–]Paulunjabbered -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh dear....

    I have no problem with the word tranny. What I have a problem with is "why should I sympathize with their psychological cause". gender dysphoria is still classified as a mental illness I believe, but we live in a society where the entire concept of gender fluidity is gaining a lot more traction, and people are more free than ever before to live beyond the bounds of their birth sex. Calling it a psychological cause is pretty demeaning and shitty. It's not really a psychological cause... It's about living a life that matches the one that you want to have. So it's a pretty stupid and insensitive thing to say.

    But I'm not trans so it's not my place to say what's right and what's wrong.

    EDIT(s): To clarify... (As I'm getting down voted and I think people aren't understanding/ aren't reading my point) I have no problem with the word "tranny" so long as it isn't used to belittle, but rather to empower. Just like faggot or queer. Clearly it was not used to empower in this instance and was inappropriate.