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The legions of /r/Gaming invade /r/GamingCirclejerk over, you guessed it, The Witcher 3. "I'm so sorry for enjoying something you didn't like. Welcome to the real world, you autistic loser." (self.SubredditDrama)

HuckleberryFN2187Fight me! Loser bottoms. が 投稿

Part 1:

It all started with one of those The Witcher 3 has left a void in my soul and no other game can satisfy me now posts. Things were calm until this comment, where a user claims that people who don't like TW3 are "socially awkward." An 85-child battle royale ensues between Witcher fans, Witcher detractors, GCJ partisans, and a lot of people who probably just enjoy drama. Ceddit may be necessary to view parts of it.

The thread is so large that I think a breakdown of the drama is justified.

This fighting is fiercest in this part of the thread, which is where I found the title quote. Another choice excerpt:

I can practically see your anger ooze out of the computer screen because I made one little comment. Just ask your mom to calm you down, I'm sure she'd be willing to assist.

For the record, that comment was made by the same person who called someone an "autistic loser." That's not editorializing, that's pointing out a fact.

Part 2

One of the main participants in the /r/gaming drama goes back to /r/Gamingcirclejerk to tell the tale: "Tried to argue with fucktards over at r/gaming. AMA"

But then the unimaginable happens: GCJ gets brigaded! The whole comments section is full of slapfights and insults. Here are some of the best.

~~~

A user tells GCJ that their sub is "toxic. He is immediately accused of being Op_is_a_Swede, a prolific shitposter who was banned a few weeks ago for vote manipulation, summed up here.

whats with this obsessive interest in keeping track of different reddit accounts and comparing the posts of users to see if they match?

What's the weird obsession with posting absolute garbage everyday, vote manipulating till you get banned, and then making ten more accounts and repeating?

This isn't about if people like The Witcher 3, this about ill informed gamers actively fighting against the medium they claim to love. That's fucking stupid.

no, this is about you raging. what the hell can some gamers do? calm your self.

I'm totally calm

~~~

More fighting over whether GCJ or /r/gaming is the more toxic sub.

fuck off back to r/games and continue your little EA/Ubishit hate campaign. Stop brigading this bastion of free speech with your toxic attitude.

~~~

"How smug do you feel right now? Is the sexual pleasure that you derive from being contrarian what gets you through the day?

~~~

The inevitable pre-ordering drama.

Part 3

/r/Drama gets involved, and the fighting spreads to that sub too. This spate of drama is short but vicious.

You're trying too hard dude, you might have more luck on SRD they'll take any bait.

Sorry no-life virgin, I don't jerk off to anime, I actually have a life, I have no idea what "SRD" is.

EDIT: I accidentally a word.

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[–]TheIronMarkStupid Police 242 ポイント243 ポイント  (7子コメント)

How does it feel to live in a fantasy world where other opinions aren't as valid as yours?

Honestly, it feels pretty awesome.

[–]drossbots 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That quote might be flair worthy.

[–]SpicyartichokeI qualified in psychology, dipshit. 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Be the change you want to see in the world.

[–]Lemvig42living in a fantasy where my opinions are more valid than yours 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I tried

[–]HuckleberryFN2187Fight me! Loser bottoms.[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is literally the third flair my drama has inspired :)

[–]Ebu-GogoYou are so vain, you probably think this drama's about you. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now to wait for the flair that inspires the drama.

[–]IratusTaurus 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a good reason so many people live there

[–]DeathToPenniesSeize the Memes 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This but unironically

[–]Killchrono 166 ポイント167 ポイント  (5子コメント)

you might have more luck on SRD they'll take any bait

Excuse me, we only take quality bait, thank you very much.

[–]fight_for_our_future 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is why Trump won.

[–]Killchrono 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This, but ironically.

[–]Alexsandr13This, but ironically 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Finally got my flair

[–]DizzleMizzles 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (0子コメント)

2/10, you can do much better

[–]AztookSRD will take any bait 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Had to shorten it but I think I got to the essence of the Truth(tm) here.

[–]NeckbeardJester 232 ポイント233 ポイント  (28子コメント)

The only reason /r/Gamingcirclejerk thrives so much is because gamers, especially on Reddit, are as predictable as sunrise.

Pre-orders being bad for gaming? EA being worse than Hitler? Certain games being "OBJECTIVELY BETTER?" For gamers, the day /r/Gamingcirclejerk graced their post was the most important day of their lives. But for /r/Gamingcirclejerk , it was Tuesday.

[–]xeio87 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/Gamingcirclejerk got way outdone by the Ubisoft logo stuff though, it's just not circlejerky enough clearly.

[–]nobadabing 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's too much karma to be made on /r/gaming by bashing Ubisoft for them to let us get a leg up on them with that.

The Ubisoft "shit"post is the top post of all time on gaming

[–]VodkaBarfAbout Ethics in Binge Drinking 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bison is infinitely quotable.

[–]Lemvig42living in a fantasy where my opinions are more valid than yours 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Pre-orders can eat a soggy biscuit.

[–]Killboypowerhed 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (19子コメント)

I preordered cities skylines on xbox. Am I part of the problem?

[–]thatguythatdidstuffPop Culture Reference 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

there is no problem. the problem with the industry isn't so much with 'pre-ordering' as it is with shoddy reviews and dodgy marketing making expectations of a game unreliable. if a large portion of gaming journalists didn't lack integrity handing out 8s and 9s and strange amounts of praise to games that have serious issues then it wouldn't be a problem. its not true for every game of course, but its true for enough that it makes buying almost any game within the first few weeks of its launch risky.

with that in mind honestly I'd say neither side is really wrong. people who are wary of this and in turn avoid pre-ordering entirely are being sensible, however pre-ordering does have its advantages such as physical or in game bonuses, pre-loading, and discounts.

honestly the only people that are wrong in this stupid debate are the people who act like freaking missionaries trying to spread the good word of their lord jesus no-preorders. and like true religious nuts, they don't care whether you want to or not, they'll make sure you know how they feel anyway.

[–]Lemvig42living in a fantasy where my opinions are more valid than yours 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (16子コメント)

No you aren't. I just find preordering completely pointless.

And there are exceptions to the norm. For every Cities Skylines you have games like Arkham Knight, X-Com 2 and Yooka Laylee.

[–]LancerOfLighteshRedSassy gay brain in a vat 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (9子コメント)

X-Com 2

So I'm part of the problem then.

[–]Lemvig42living in a fantasy where my opinions are more valid than yours 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

No you aren't.

X-COM 2 was a buggy mess at the time of release.

[–]LancerOfLighteshRedSassy gay brain in a vat 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yes it was. But I still.enjoyed the fuck out of it

[–]Lemvig42living in a fantasy where my opinions are more valid than yours 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I would be pretty disheartened to receive an unplayable mess I paid 50$ for, but more power to you if didn't mind it.

[–]LancerOfLighteshRedSassy gay brain in a vat 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I played New Vegas on launch. Nothing can compare to that torture. I've been desensitized

[–]semtex94 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cue Doc Mitchell's Exorcist head spinning.

[–]Jhaza 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've tried to play X-Com 1 (or... something. Enemy Unknown?) ~3-4 times and never been able to make it past the tutorial due to bugs. Good to hear the second one follows that proud tradition.

[–]Lemvig42living in a fantasy where my opinions are more valid than yours 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Playing the game is a carthatic experience now. The bugs and performance issues have been ironed out and it is perfectly functional. The gameplay mechanics are excellent as always and the mods take it to another level.

I would highly recommend getting it now. You can easily play the game for 100+ hours .

[–]DizzleMizzles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congratz

[–]KibblesNKirbsBig Rubber Ass on the Subway 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

pre order discounts, limited quantity special editions, preloading so you can play right away?

you just learn to accept the risks it comes with if you want the benefits. i preordered xcom 2 and dishonored 2 among others and dont really regret it

[–]fadlpadl -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

pre order discounts

dat 5%

limited quantity special editions

The only case of any of those running out in recent memory was fallout 4.

[–]KibblesNKirbsBig Rubber Ass on the Subway 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

dat 5%

you can get discounts for 30% pretty easily. i preordered dishonored 2 and deus ex 2 for 40 bux, and managed to get witcher 3 for 26 before release

The only case of any of those running out in recent memory was fallout 4.

a lot of japanese games, fire emblem fates is probably the worst example

i barely got mine but i had to stalk stores for a couple weeks and a lot of people never managed to get ahold of one. sucks cuz it was really good value due to being the same price as buying three routes separately on top of regular collector edition perks

[–]ANUSTART942 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Amazon Prime offers a 20% discount on pre-orders so that's pretty solid. Pre-order bonuses are also a rather nice way of saying "Thanks for having enough faith in our game to buy day one."

[–]ANUSTART942 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Weren't two of those games critically acclaimed and the other had mixed reviews but is loved by its target demographic? I mean yeah, Arkham Knight ran like dogshit on PC, but it's still a really good game.

[–]mrpopenfreshcuck-a-doodle-doo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just find preordering completely pointless.

It totally is, yet people still gobble that shit up. Why you would shell money for an unproven product is beyond me.

[–]AztookSRD will take any bait 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't thinks pre-ordering is bad. Dodgy pre-order bonuses though? That's an issue I got. If you know you'll enjoy a game and willing to take the risk that you won't be able to buy the game cheaper and with what DLC it might ship out post-launch I say do it. I've only pre-ordered like three or so games but I never regret preordering MGS5 and Persona 5... also they had some pretty cool limited edition stuff I couldn't pass up as a fan and collector.

[–]MilesBeyond250 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is it better now? I remember there was a point where it was /r/gamingcounterjerk and instead of poking fun at the way people gush about the Witcher 3, it was full of uj posts by people who were salty that reddit didn't like Fallout 4. There would be entire threads where the title would be making fun of Witcher shitposting and then 90% of the comments would be something like "/uj For real though, Fallout 4 is way better than Witcher 3 and I don't understand why /r/gaming thinks otherwise."

I haven't even played either game but I unsubbed at that point just because it was getting really obnoxious. And even if some of those uj posts were ironic, the threads following them sure as hell weren't.

[–]adsoooo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gamers are just mind bogglingly easy to trigger. Like, I've never encountered a group of people who get so angry about such stupid shit.

[–]Gemuese11 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the other hand gcj can get predictable because it's sourced on gaming subreddits and to a lesser extent askreddit.

I was one of the most active members in 2015/2016 but the Witcher jerk and the increasing political fuckery made it depressing, repetitive and just not fun anymore (although fun is only a buzzword of course).

[–]dIoIIoIb 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Wait, i thought /r gaming loved the witcher as the next coming of white haired jesus? is the circlejerk going in the opposite direction now and posts praising it get downvoted?

i don't like the witcher and i never know if i'm being part of the circlejerk or of the counter-circlejerk, it's confusing

[–]nobadabing 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am not quite sure if /r/gamingcirclejerk has learned its lessons about brigading either. Even before the huge /r/justunsubbed drama where some of ours were posting in the linked thread, linked threads always had fishy downvoted counts after they were linked

[–]Tetizeraz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Browsing gaming's /new/ just to flame is also super weird.

[–]nobadabing 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is mostly the same people who do that, I think. The mods have been very reluctant to add rules but I think they could do something to stop /new/ stalking and lower effort posts because those don't really add much to the sub. Most of those just turn into lame posts... but what do I know, some posts I thought were beyond dumb get voted to the top of GCJ too. It's just the way of subs that aren't heavily modded I guess

[–]znihilist 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

People hate edgy and contrarian a lot more than they hate those who didn't like W3.

that the socially awkward people began to bash it whenever they got a chance. Their odd need to play devil's advocate for everything is baffling.

Or

It gets bashed because a lot of people like it and people think it's cool to hate on popular things. If you think this game is subpar, you're either 12 years old or a moron.

These two replies are the epitome of edgy.

[–]WileEPeyote 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't get the hate. I mean I get why people love that game, but it's just not my flavor of fun.

[–]thatguythatdidstuffPop Culture Reference 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also don't hate it, but having read the books I think the main story really, really fucked up a lot of stuff, and beyond that the ending was a incredibly lazy deus ex machina that makes it look like they just ran out of time in development and said "well just have someone save the day".

the games not bad by any means, but its definitely over-hyped.

[–]BamH1 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah... I enjoyed Witcher 3, but I also greatly enjoy being unnecessarily contrarian. I really dont know where to stand on this issue. Luckily I also enjoy being indecisive.

[–]TimidLickinzlooked at thousands of drama threads from the front left seat 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

All that matters is that you're jerking someone.

[–]khalkhalkhal9k9k9kYOUR FLAIR TEXT HERE 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I have been avoiding gaming subreddits (all of them, even r/gcj even though its where I used to spend a lot of time there) since my last post, but its funny that I managed to find it here. I read over it a little bit and I see that both MontanaCowboy and IHateMyWifesBF posted there, both accounts were created immediately after swede (a content creator for r/gcj /s) got banned off reddit. I am now 100% convinced they are both swedes' alt, they even went to r/justunsubbed and both posted there. Even more funny thing is that they both do exactly what swede used to do on his main account before he got banned.

[–]PandemultGod knew what he was doing, buttholes are really nice. 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Who was swede and why was he banned?

[–]crumpisTrumpis 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Professional Copypastartist.

[–]Pax_Ramonaalt-white 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A true genius at their craft.

[–][deleted] 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You know those 20 paragraph essays that certain users post on this site that fawn over the typical Reddit shit that gets praised every day? You know, like how EA is evil, pre orders are bad, and even (you guessed it) how great witcher 3 is? All of those (/s) were from one account: op is a swede. When those would inevitably get posted into GCJ and laughed at/treated as new copy pasta, that user would come into the sub and call the users there names, usually in long essay format again; rinse and repeat.

That's who he was. Then, I think users from gamingcirclejerk figured out he was using alt accounts to upvote his own posts and continue arguments with other users. Pretty sure that's why the account got banned.

[–]lolpancakeslol 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our assumptions proved correct when he was mysteriously banned for seemingly no reason. Now that he's back (c'mon, it's fucking obvious) I can see him getting axed for the same reasons.

[–]PandemultGod knew what he was doing, buttholes are really nice. 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So Swede was a real life Geraldo?

[–]nobadabing 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I'm pretty regular on /r/gamingcirclejerk but I don't know who he is either. Probably because I don't click on like, half the linked threads because of Witcher 3 fatigue

[–]lolpancakeslol 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This makes a lot of sense because you'd often see Swede hop into GCJ to get into arguments with GCJ users so when I saw that he made the thread on unsubbed I thought Ohhh this dude is trolling lol.

Honestly in all the time I've seen swede shitpost I sometimes wonder if the dude does legit get angry at GCJ sometimes. Either way this appears to be a "coordinated" attempt by him or someone associated with him to stir some shit for GCJ.

[–]heartscrew 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have been avoiding gaming subreddits

I want to do this too but I'm finding it hard to get some gaymen news at.

[–]acethunder21Crash Team Racing Shill 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (20子コメント)

I know it's irrational, but stuff like that post makes me not want to play The Witcher 3. Reminds me of the hyperbolic, melodramatic "DAE feel hollow inside after the last PPV?" posts we get in r/SquaredCircle.

[–]HuckleberryFN2187Fight me! Loser bottoms.[S] 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The circlejerk made me notice flaws more than I would have otherwise. For example:

  • Those FUCKING SIRENS in Skellige. Easily the most irritating enemy type in any game since the Cliff Racers in Morrowind.

  • The game world doesn't always react to choices you make, and immersion suffers. The worst example is in Novigrad you can take part in a very high profile assassination that you'd think would have the city up in arms ... but no, everyone just goes on as if nothing out of the ordinary happened.

  • The animations are uneven. There's one part where Triss cries "let go of me, you bastard!" despite the fact that nobody is holding her.

That said, the game is great, especially with the expansions. Everyone likes to circlejerk about the Bloody Baron quest line. The Battle of Kaer Morhen reminded me of ME2's Suicide Mission. Toussaint is beautiful. And the "Hearts of Stone" expansion literally has the best story in any game I've ever played. It's just hauntingly good.

[–]Silverfox767you slimy piece of histrionic underachieving shit 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sirens are nothing compared to Wraiths. Never have I seen so many untelegraphed invincibility frames.

[–]HuckleberryFN2187Fight me! Loser bottoms.[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yrden. For ages I thought it was utterly useless but it's actually a must-use against wraiths.

Also, wraiths occasionally drop decent loot. Sirens just exist to wreck your boat and force you to swim for half an hour.

[–]BamH1 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The sirens et al. are the fucking worst. Also, did you really need to put all of those smugglers caches all over the fucking ocean? Every one surrounded by the most annoying enemy in the world? For people who obsess about map completion, it can literally drive you mad.

That said, I quite enjoyed the game overall.

[–]heartscrew 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did that. I did them all.

[–]MrBokbagokA properly seared, well done steak needs KETCHUP. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

sirens pissed me off until i discovered the crossbow is a 1 hit kill. they went from frustrating enemies to forgettable pests instantly

[–]saraathHamilton was a commie 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of my biggest buggabos about W3 has been the political sideplot stuff. There is no fucking nuance in it.

[–]sertroll 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well, it's a single player game. You don't have to deal with the community while playing it.

[–]PoorAuntHortence 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

As an omder gamer this is basically on my coat of arms. If i wanna talk about gaming i write my own notes. There's no place to engage with quality discussion. It's sad and hilarious.

[–]CinderSkye 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

omder

omder?

[–]PoorAuntHortence 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Haha, I just saw that. "Older." Stupid mobile.

[–]CinderSkye 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

...typo didn't even occur to me, I was trying to figure out if this was slang from another language or something.

I tend to make a big self post on a game in smaller subreddits after I've finished it, I generally like the responses I get even if they go against that subreddit's opinions.

[–]PoorAuntHortence 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, no, I just type with my index fingers.

I take notes as I'm playing and generally try to create something cohesive out of it that notes my impressions, my observations, and any kind of overarching elements. If something sticks out it becomes the basis for a longer piece of writing. I'm kind of a nut though, and an academic in the humanities.

[–]never_a_crossword 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone that's really into Architecture and Morality.

[–]jinreeko 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I mean, the side missions are great and all, but there are also some large issues with the game as well. I was cool with slumping past the frothing community, the flighty weird combat, the relative ease of the game to prior entries, and the clear the map objectives bullshit. I even got past Ciri's weird Force-scream. Overall I am glad I played it, but seeing the rabid fanbase just makes me feel dirty.

[–]FanEu7 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You shouldn't be influenced by stupid fanboys. Every series has them

[–]clockworkzebra 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The circlejerk makes me afraid to voice my opinion on the game tbh. I think it was okay, but an ultimately soulless game that wasn't an RPG in any sense of the word and the writing felt really, really flat throughout most of it. Was it fun to play? Yah, pretty fun. Would I play it again and did it leave any lasting impression? Not at all.

[–]two__sheds 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who felt it was flat. I started it 3 days before I got Horizon: Zero Dawn, put it on hold for 2 weeks while I flounced around shanking robot dinosaurs, then tried to pick it up again and just couldn't. It felt really two dimensional. I couldn't bring myself to give a shit about anyone and Witcher 3 really, really wanted me to care. I couldn't find the amazing gameplay and writing that everyone kept raving about.

[–]CVance1sick twisted social justice bullshit pleasure 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, this is the main reason ive been putting it off for so long, and the main reason any time I see it as a GOTY or whatever I roll my eyes. I mean, it must be good, but I can't stand the fans pushing it so much.

[–]House_Bitch 92 ポイント93 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Why, why, why do people use Autism as an insult.

[–]hawkcannoncatgirls are an enemy of the revolution 98 ポイント99 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because insulting people with mental health issues is popular, but people caught on that calling each other 'retards' is a bad look. They don't think far enough to see why people don't like the word, though, so now it's 'triggered' and 'autist' until they pick a new word. Or something changes, but I'm not holding my breath.

[–]IAmNotRyan 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's actually interesting. The words "Idiot" and "moron" used to be legitimate medical terms, and the word "dumb" just meant that a person couldn't speak. People have always taken medical terms for disabilities and used them as insults to the point where they don't work as medical terms anymore, and they only work as insults. The word "retard" is the latest casualty, and "autistic" is clearly next.

[–]tehlemmings 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because calling someone gay became both socially unpopular and super bland. They needed a new low effort insult.

[–]unidannyphantom 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a quick way to call someone socially inept as well as immature and underdeveloped for their age

[–]MrBokbagokA properly seared, well done steak needs KETCHUP. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

same reason "retard" started getting used an an insult

[–]adsoooo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Projection

[–]House_Bitch 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That word is now in the same category as moist.

[–]CyborgSlunk 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, the real world, where you just call people "autistic losers". You can tell this guy hasn't visited it for a long time.

[–]trooperdx3117 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I'm genuinely curious when did it happen that liking something becomes a circle jerk and disliking it becomes a circle jerk as well?

Also why do people get so annoyed over other people liking something?

[–]nobadabing 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The Witcher 3 could've been a flash in the pan on the sub if Redditors weren't still foaming at the mouth over it years later.

Geralt's Law: if you are on /r/gaming for long enough, you will always eventually find a comment praising The Witcher 3, saying it ruined every other game for them... regardless of whether it's relevant or not

[–]trooperdx3117 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What does that mean though it would've been a flash in the pan game?

So if there is a general consensus that a game is really good is that circle jerking?

[–]spritzducorpse 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think he's saying it's an okay RPG that got hyped up something crazy. I dunno if you're purposefully downplaying the fandom, or if you genuinely haven't seen this, but the jerk goes way beyond what you're suggesting.

Nobody cares if you like The Witcher. If you're going around lamenting how it's ruined games forever because it's just so good that nothing will ever live up to it, you need to take a deep breath. It's about the size of the pedestal you put the game on.

[–]Stormcrow21 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think a lot of people (like me) honestly think witcher was a fantastic game and one of the best in recent memory.

The problem is there are a lot of insecure people who need others to validate what they like. So when someone insults something they like they seem to take it as a personal insult. I loved the game, but i don't give a shit whether there are people that didn't. Entertainment is subjective.

[–]adsoooo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not as into video games as I used to be, but that shit was literally always a part of gamer culture. Getting absurdly hyped about something, acting like it's the best thing ever, and then a year later getting obsessed with something else.

Gamers are probably the easiest fucking people to market shit to

[–]arborday 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's not that they just like the Witcher 3, it's that you see posts jerking off (possibly in a circle even) over the Witcher 3 like those "This DLC could've been a whole game from Ubisoft" ones they had about Blood & Wine, or the Triss and boobs cosplay.

Circlejerks subs exist to parody the domanant recycled opinions of a sub, which for gaming is Fallout 4 is bad, Ubisoft and EA are evil, Sean Murray is a war criminal and Witcher 3 is a masterpiece beyond criticism.

[–]DizzleMizzles -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

So it's a circlejerk is because they think Ubisoft is worse?

[–]MrBokbagokA properly seared, well done steak needs KETCHUP. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also why do people get so annoyed over other people liking something?

Because most of them are of the age where they think the most interesting thing about them is the stuff they like.

[–]Statoke 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've never understood this "it was so good nothing will be good again" shit, it seems like a poor way to live life. Like, I went to Ghost Bath live recently, it was the best musical act I've seen live and one of my favourite life moments but that hasn't restricted me from other music or concerts.

[–]beary_goodPro-Censorship Fascist 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am so, so tired of you people... etc etc, you all know it by now.

[–]Flowseidon9 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Witcher 3 is just the game that keeps on giving loads of buttery popcorn

[–]heartscrew 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Honestly, I hold W3 and Fo4 in the same regard.

[–]HuckleberryFN2187Fight me! Loser bottoms.[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

So do you like FO4, or hate TW3?

[–]heartscrew 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes.

I kid. I like them both. Both have the same plot TBH. Find your not-kid, muh Shaun this, muh Ciri that. Hell, both even have the same dilemma of supplying such a critical task to your character and you having them either plant mutated grapes or play medieval YuGiOh.

[–]HuckleberryFN2187Fight me! Loser bottoms.[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The reason I never bought FO4 is, petty as this sounds, that emotional attachment to a CGI baby was so central to the plot. And again, I admit that that that's ridiculous, but for some reason prepubescent children are very hard to make likeable in games. They have a really bad uncanny valley problem. 12-year-old Ciri was all right for that one brief scene, and Lady Emily from Dishonored is tolerable if boring, but other than that, when I think of children in vidya I think of the StarBrat.

Ciri at least is an adult for almost all of her on-screen moments in TW3, so I could actually get to like her as a character.

Yeah, that's my spiel about Shaun, as someone who knows fuck all about the game.

[–]heartscrew 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The baby is just a tool for narrative advancement. And the main character Shaun-ing around is as much a meme as praising Geraldo in every gaming thread.

[–]aceavengersdebate strongly with the fash 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I couldn't play Witcher 2 because it opened with tits. There's so much tits and ass in those games it's offputting. If you're gonna do it, at least go all out and let me see Geralt naked.

[–]HuckleberryFN2187Fight me! Loser bottoms.[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A girl I dated a few years ago was interested in gaming but had a crappy laptop, so she asked if we could check out a game on mine. She specifically requested Witcher 2 because one of her guy friends had told her it had some crazy sex scenes. I hadn't actually played it yet, so I had no idea that the very first thing she'd see (apart from the torture session) would be Triss Merigold's asscrack. I've never seen anyone laugh so hard in my life.

[–]saraathHamilton was a commie 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

go to dragon age for male butts

e: how dare u downvote when it is fact.

[–]FanEu7 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dude its one scene...

[–]aceavengersdebate strongly with the fash 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And? It turned me off the game. It's probably still a good rpg, it's just not something I'm interested in.

[–]skylla05 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

There's so much tits and ass in those games it's offputting.

Something tells me you haven't actually played any of them to any great length.

Yeah it's there, yeah Witcher 2 opens up with it, and there are a few quests in the entire series that involve a bath house or prostitutes (more of than than not, clothed), but I think you are grossly overstating how prominent nudity is in the game.

[–]aceavengersdebate strongly with the fash 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am not. I was in the same room as my boyfriend when he played Witcher 3. I've seen 85% of the game.

[–]youpostyoudieamzn.com/w/2BX27V8HNLH72 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Isn't there a fuck pony in W3?

[–]caro_line_ 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Okay but The Witcher 3 really did leave a void in my soul

[–]znihilist 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because there is a W3 circlejerk, it doesn't mean the circlejerk is wrong. A lot of people really like the game and for many good reasons. But I feel bashing those who didn't is really stupid, because I guarantee you, all of those who like W3 will probably disagree on many other "highly praised" games.

[–]MrHairyPotter 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (22子コメント)

I never picked up the Witcher 3, but I feel similarly about Dark Souls. I constantly compare games to Dark Souls and they never seem to live up to it.

[–]Mindless_Consumer 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I never liked Dark souls. Shall we spew insults at each other now?

[–]MrHairyPotter 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm sure everyone else would enjoy that

Git gud scrub :)

[–]Mindless_Consumer 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I could probably have devoted a bunch of time and 'git'ed gud' at Dark Souls, but the world just didn't intrigue me. Now a days I prefer advancing through a game's storyline at a decent pace without having to fight the same boss over and over until I get every attack and dodge perfectly timed. Ain't no body got time for that.

Except for competitive shooters. I don't need a complex story for people shooting each other.

Oh, and because you have a different opinion than me, you are a worse person. Probably because your mother raised you wrong, as a joke.

[–]MrHairyPotter 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Lol yeah I can totally understand how Dark Souls is not for everyone. And the story is difficult to get into because you have to sift through every item description just to piece it together. I'm more into the way the game plays than the story, but EpicNameBro's From The Dark play through of Dark Souls 1 is what got me into the game.

Also your opinion is wrong and your mother is disappointed in you.

[–]tehlemmings 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Both of you are wrong even though I agree with part of what each of you said. And more importantly, I feel superior to you both.

Dark Souls story is presented well, but is utterly cliche and boring. And the combat is nothing more than 'memorize the gimmicks'

[–]MrHairyPotter 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I love Dark Souls combat and that is the hill I will die on.

Fight me irl

[–]tehlemmings 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Damn, someone called my bluff.

Unfortunately, that's not a hill I actually care about. The one I'll die on is the one that says that game of thrones is badly written and the plot is stupid.

[–]eonOnepostmodernism poisons everything 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

game of thrones is badly written and the plot is stupid

u wot m8

[–]Feetbox 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not liking Dark Souls is the Dark Souls of opinions.

[–]Blood_magic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have you tried Bloodborne? Faster paced combat and cooler weapons. Also, some really cool lore :)

[–]znihilist 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I had issues when I first picked up W3, I really didn't like the combat system, it felt underwhelming and missing something from it. But if you focus on what the game is trying to do, there is really truth to why people are saying this is one of the best games out there.

Ps, the reason I initially hated the combat system was because of DS.

[–]Unicorn_Abattoir 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I got bored after I realized that there are only 3-4 sword animations.

[–]KickItNext 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The combat gets especially lame when you unlock an attack that just chain staggers practically any enemy to death.

[–]MrHairyPotter 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The Witcher definitely looks like a good game, I just never got around to buying it.

PS, Praise the sun! \[T]/

[–]znihilist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Praise the Sun \[T]/.

Anyway, check GoG I think they always have sales on it. I am not sure what is the game "worth" to you, but 30$ for everything (bases game + 2 expansions) is an excellent price for it.

[–]MrHairyPotter 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks! Lately it's been more of a time thing than money with my summer job but I might have to check it out.

[–]Manannin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is a huge time sink, 100 hours is normal.

[–]BamH1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Give me the perfectly simple and crisp combat mechanics of Dark Souls, and the largely wonderful boss fights of dark souls, with the expansive and immersive world, the story, and the diversity of stuff to do in the Witcher 3, and I will never play another game for the rest of my life.

[–]MrHairyPotter 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel the same just with Skyrim. I used to play that game all the time but now I have to really get the itch to play and even then it doesn't last long. I can't take Skyrim's combat it's horrible to me.

[–]DaedricWindrammer"An Open Letter To Those Who Treasured /r/Roosterteeth" 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This, but a combination of Warframe and Destiny for me.

[–]MysteryMachinationsThey didnt shoot down any airliners during the Revolutionary War 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man, I love all gaming subreddits. They are all shitholes but they sure can bring the drama.

[–]midnightvulpine 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The jerking over pre-orders is amusing. In a day of digital distribution, the need for most to pre-order is largely gone. And pre-ordering is becoming less and less advantageous to the consumer. It encourages breaking off content to sell separately and, as Bethesda has shown, attempting to duck having reviews out before the game ships. I pre-order sparingly because it's not worth it anymore. And I've avoided picking up several games I wouldn't have enjoyed.

It all comes down to how much you care about things like that, though. Not everyone does. Obviously they care a lot to argue that bitterly about it.

[–][deleted] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My preorder rule: Would I still buy this game even if the reviews gave it 0/10 and it was a buggy mess? If yes, preorder away!

Mostly this just works out to be sequels to series I really love. Or expansion packs, stuff like that.

[–]nobadabing 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Damn, I was busy this weekend so I didn't check GCJ :(

It's always more fun when you're on ground zero of the drama

[–]lolpancakeslol 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same. I'm bummed out that I'm not a part of this. :(

[–][deleted] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love how gamers use autism as insult when they can't argue anything & how a diffrent opinion is too much for there empty heads.

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[–]grungebot5000jesus man 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It gets bashed because it's subpar action game that gets way more praise than it deserves.

damn dude right off the bat I was taken aback, I hadn't witnessed the Witcher 3 c-c-c-COUNTERJERK yet

I could join that fight, but the only ammo I have against the Witcher 3 is the fact it wasn't able to grip me within the first 25 minutes

[–]TyChris2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Witcher 3 is a weird game for me.

I recognize that it's good. It has satisfying gameplay, deep role playing and great writing along with an amazingly realized world with well thought out lore. But for some reason I just can't get into it. I don't love fantasy anyway, and the Polish variety in the Witcher series is original, but I can't get immersed in the Witcher 3.

My point is that even though I don't PREFER a game, doesn't mean the game is bad. That being said, it obviously isn't the perfect 10/10 best game ever.

Why can't people just accept that nothing is a complete black and white issue? Arguing against someone saying that it's the best gaem evar by saying its absolute shit is obviously not the way to get your opinion across.

[–]ognitsWorthless, low-IQ disruptor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

deep role playing

except for the part where you play as a character who has literally entire novels' worth of backstory and your conversations consist of nothing more than "more info pls" "yes I will do this for you" and "no I won't get your fucking frying pan"

Witcher 3 has practically no RP in its G

[–]FanEu7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Witcher 3 fans can be too crazy (I prefer the second game) but the haters aren't any better. The circlejerk subs are ridiculous

[–]drossbots 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lady Syn wasted a few hours arguing there I think they got trolled good.

I'll see myself out.