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[–]BmanUltimai5-4690K, R9 290; i7-4700HQ, GTX 850M; 2x Xeon X5450 + 12TB 1735 ポイント1736 ポイント  (198子コメント)

Well that would be up to the case manufacturers. It's already a standard header layout, in a single header.

[–]AspiringMetallurgistR7 1700X@4.0, 16GB DDR4-2933 CL12, GTS 450 160 ポイント161 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just set up a system on two different X370 boards. They were definitely different in pin layout.

[–]PsikoBlocki7-5820k, GTX 970, 16 GB RAM, SM951 512GB SSD, custom loop WC 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Most use the Intel standard (even AMD boards), but some the "AMD" standard.

[–]adam2792500k 4.2 | RX 470 | 16GB ddr3 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And then you have the prebuilts that use something entirely different.

[–]Toprelemonsi5 6600k | GTX 1070 | 16gb[S] 500 ポイント501 ポイント  (192子コメント)

When I mean single cable, like maybe something like a similar looking one to a USB 3.0 and similar procedure?

[–]BmanUltimai5-4690K, R9 290; i7-4700HQ, GTX 850M; 2x Xeon X5450 + 12TB 332 ポイント333 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, that's just a pinned header with a plastic guard around it. Same idea.

[–]BmanUltimai5-4690K, R9 290; i7-4700HQ, GTX 850M; 2x Xeon X5450 + 12TB 700 ポイント701 ポイント  (147子コメント)

Also, it's better this way, then I can choose not to plug in some parts if I don't want to.

[–]skrilly014690k, gtx 1080, 16gb, sg13 352 ポイント353 ポイント  (108子コメント)

I almost never plug in the leds

[–]Aquagoati7 6700k, GTX 1070, ASUS Maximus Hero VIII, NZXT H440 402 ポイント403 ポイント  (93子コメント)

I remember one of my old builds in a HAF 932, the HDD activity light was a blue flashing LED brighter than the god damn sun. I had it taped up for a while before I realized I could just unplug it.

[–]CC3940A61E 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (71子コメント)

could also whack in a resistor, but that takes resistors and soldering.

[–]Dissidence802i5-4690k | R9 380X | 16GB | Fractal R4 94 ポイント95 ポイント  (61子コメント)

Butt splice that mofo.

[–]drinkpoop 139 ポイント140 ポイント  (52子コメント)

Or cut the wire, wrap it around some pencil lead, tape it up, and bam, homemade resistor light dimmer ffs i'm so poor...

[–]camerajack21 108 ポイント109 ポイント  (46子コメント)

I feel like a pencil would cost more than a resistor would. They're literally pennies.

[–]jordguitarhttps://steamcommunity.com/id/jordguitar 206 ポイント207 ポイント  (36子コメント)

Yea, just pop down to your local Radio Sha..... Oh.

[–]nrmh 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you don't normally have a use for resistors, it's likely you can get a pencil cheaper than just 1 single resistor without pulling one from something else.

[–]Summeriei5 6600 | GTX 770 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but I can steal a pencil from the back office of my job. They don't have resistors lying around.

[–]DerS3boi7-6700k | GTX 1070 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

FYI: Pencilmines start getting hot incredibly fast so please don't actually try it...

[–]DrStalker 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just steal a resistor from some old electronics.

Which used to be much easier before surface mount resistors were common.

[–]TCBlooFX-8320, RX480 Strix, 16GB ram, 250Gb SSD 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Nah, just wear sunglasses.

[–]theycallmealexOh hey there. FX-8350, 8GB, R9 270X 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (5子コメント)

the ultimate cost saver is throw a towel over your tower, you dont see the LEDs or potential damage youre doing to your machine!

[–]redbonedit 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OMFG yes! Day after the build I'm like fuck this.

[–]vintagestyles 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

20 years, and i had never thought to do that till now....

Fuck.

[–]ehalepagneauxSpecs/Imgur here 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had a Node 304 with a ridiculously bright "on" light and an HDD light that should have been swapped, so I did it myself.

[–]LeviAEthan512i7 6700K, GTX 1070 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My network adapter is an Asus USB one (don't buy wireless tech from Asus btw. It's not just mine) and it's got this tiny blue LED. Despite its size, at night it turns my room from real darkness to video game darkness

[–]pythondotaui7 2600k@4.4|H115i/GTX680/16gb DDR3 1600 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ha, exact same story here, did it with power LED too.

[–]BlackFallout 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ha, hahahaha. I have a penny taped over it with electrical tape and I never even though about un plugging it......

[–]Tyralyon 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh wow, flashback time... I did exactly the same.

[–]suomynonAx 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (5子コメント)

You just reminded me that I could simply do the same. HDD led lighting up the entire room like a strobe light, was about to put electrical tape over it but I don't like it's sticky residue after you take it off.

[–]hearingnone 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Use the painter (blue) tape. They don't leave any residue. That what I did with my alarm clock, it have this bright red color. So I taped it over and it is translucent enough for showing the numbers without filling the room with bloody Mary.

[–]Mr_Will 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Baby wipes get the sticky off.

That said - when are you ever going to remove that tape?

[–]BmanUltimai5-4690K, R9 290; i7-4700HQ, GTX 850M; 2x Xeon X5450 + 12TB 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same. I just find them annoying.

[–]urinal_deucei5-6600k Gigabyte GTX 980ti, Samsung 500GB EVO 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or the PC speaker

[–]Ancillas 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Exactly. I like the current system where the leads are separate, but the premium mobos come with a small header so the leads can be connected outside the case where it's spacious.

Easy, cheap, and flexible.

[–]Put_It_All_On_Blck 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yup, those are god sends. How they aren't included with every motherboard is beyond me, as they are literally just plastic and some metal and printing, probably costing 3 cents to make and they clearly already make them

[–]kr4nkerIntel i5 3570k 4,4ghz - EVGA GTX 680 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (4子コメント)

What about just having one cable and give you the options on What to turn on and not in bios

[–]anoxy 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's far too logical.

[–]blahblahblicker 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Take it one step further and have a utility you can access from your OS. If you can control fan speeds, you should be able to control the other devices/switches as well.

[–]kr4nkerIntel i5 3570k 4,4ghz - EVGA GTX 680 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would be amazing. Just create a driver like we have for the gpu etc.

[–]followedthelinkPlagu3Born 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

My reset button is literally the same size and shape (mirrored) as my power button, right next to it with literally no divider. I have my reset button unplugged.

[–]kare_kano 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or swap them around. When my power button broke I replaced it with the reset switch.

[–]Mashikihttp://steamcommunity.com/id/Mashiki 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Seriously man, we went through this shit with some computer manufactures back in the 90's doing exactly this before the PC'97 standard. If it's done this way you can pick, choose, ignore, and even swap parts.

Some even went as far as to make proprietary connectors that operated with an almost dongle like function making sure that if you didn't use the "approved part" between the board and header you couldn't even power it on. Never again.

[–]Boinkedyou 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

As a person who only has the power headers in and has all the led and reset buttons left out this is not a solution that works for everyone. How they are work fine for anyone who works late night and doesn't want an SSD light flickering like a strobe light in the middle of the night

[–]DimlightHero 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree, what even is the point of the HDD led on a PC with only solid storage components?

[–]Thehulk666 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Don't most good cases or motherboard have a header you can plug everything into now!

[–]iGumballi7 6700k @ 4.48 GHz | EVGA GTX 1080Ti | 32GB DDR4 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

you dropped this

?

[–]Thehulk666 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Fixed it

[–]urielrocks5676 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

MISSON FAILED, WE'LL GET'EM NEXT TIME! press ^ start ^ to ^ continue

[–]VikingNipples 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can't tell whether that's a formatting error or an intentional joke, but I love it either way.

[–]iGumballi7 6700k @ 4.48 GHz | EVGA GTX 1080Ti | 32GB DDR4 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate you.

[–]KurosawasPaintSet 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No the motherboard typically comes with the all in one plug not the case because every motherboard can be a bit different.

[–]yehakhrot 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They don't need to make things unnecessarily complex. This way is easiest to mess around with. Respect to you man, but I really hope your opinion stays unpopular, I don't want simple stuff being more restricted because you don't fuck with the front up header and what not.

[–]sleeplessone 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've definitely seen a few different layouts like case speaker 4 pins apart or boards with 2 different hard drive activity headers for 2 different controllers.

[–]recklessbaboonR5 1600|B350M Arctic|16GB 3600Mhz|Galax EXOC 1060 354 ポイント355 ポイント  (51子コメント)

This gives us options. Some people might not want to plug one of those or sometimes can't.

Gigabyte has an adapter that you plug what you want into, and then into the pins.

[–]FuckTwoXandAwwi5 7600 | GTX 1070 | 8GB DDR4 | H270 | ITX 157 ポイント158 ポイント  (26子コメント)

i hate the hdd led, i never plug it in. nothing more annoying than sitting in a dark room with your rig acting like a disco ball.

[–]weatherseed4670K@4.3 | 760 GTX SLI | 16GB 1333MHz 90 ポイント91 ポイント  (9子コメント)

It's Power LED for me, personally. Fractal decided to put a light powerful enough to read by on the top of the case. Damn thing lights the room by itself.

[–]GaianNeuronSilenced | R9 290 | FX-8350 | 16GB @ 1866 | Define R5 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I got so annoyed at Fractal's BRIGHT BLUE disk light in the Define R5 that I replaced it with an orange one. The blue power LED was stuck in there good though, and I couldn't get it out.

Ended up with a pretty neat-looking blue glow with a subtle orange tinge whenever the disk's being accessed.

[–]weatherseed4670K@4.3 | 760 GTX SLI | 16GB 1333MHz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bingo, mine's a Fractal Define XL R5.

[–]Exodus2791i5 3550 - 16GB - GTX 970 - 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (6子コメント)

As opposed to the LEDs on the video card, RAM, fans, keyboard, mouse... :-)

[–]Yung_hittaIntel i7 | 8GB |GT 840m 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mine doesn't flash like a disco plus can turn off most of them through an app.

[–]32BitWhore7700k | EVGA 1080ti | 16GB 3200 | Vive 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Idk, I always found the HDD LED really useful for troubleshooting in quite a few different scenarios, so I always plug it in.

[–]Ukani 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yeah. My power button broke so now the only way for me to turn my pc on is to open by case and short the power pins with a screw driver. That wouldnt be possible with a universal connector.

[–]backfliprainbowcakeAMD FX 6300 @ 3.5 GHz | MSI GTX 1050 Ti @ 1961 MHz 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why don't you just... you know, attach a new button? Even a bodged setup would be better than opening your case and shorting the pins every time, haha.

[–]bratwurstmuesli 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

happened for me too. just use your reset button as the power button!

[–]Neur0_ZAi5 4670k@4.8GHz | MSI GTX 1060 Armour 6GB | 16GB DDR3 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Get yourself a small switch (same kind as the power button uses) solder 2 wires to it. Then cut the wires from the case switch and solder the separate switch's wires to the wires you cut off. Plug it into your mobo and run the switch out of your case by removing a PCI over and viola! Just make sure to use sleeves to ensure that the wires don't short and shut off your PC.

[–]robbylp 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

lol dude I think he's too lazy to do that if he's willing to just short the pins with a screw driver

[–]Neur0_ZAi5 4670k@4.8GHz | MSI GTX 1060 Armour 6GB | 16GB DDR3 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

For me the screwdriver method sounds like too much effort xD

[–]Mashikihttp://steamcommunity.com/id/Mashiki 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Swap the reset switch with the power switch. They're both momentary contact switches and that's all you need.

[–]bar10005 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You could just switch power and reset button if your rig doesn't freeze a lot.

[–]Laidback36 116 ポイント117 ポイント  (40子コメント)

[–]DinoSuarezi7-4790 | 16gb | 1080Ti 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (7子コメント)

God no, those things work well in theory but I've never seen one that actually holds the pins tight enough. Plus it makes your cable management look that much worse when the front panel headers are sticking so far out of the motherboard

[–]mjike 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Plus it makes your cable management look that much worse when the front panel headers are sticking so far out of the motherboard

This so much. Now if someone would make right angled connector out of black plastic it would be an improvement.

[–]DinoSuarezi7-4790 | 16gb | 1080Ti 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Higher end motherboards already have their 24 pins and sometimes USB 3 turned 90 degrees, why not front panel headers?

[–]KingOfTekKappa Keepo KappaPride KappaClaus KappaWealth KappaRoss 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

USB 3 turned 90 degrees

It's a great idea, but in practice it becomes far easier to accidentally crush the pins.

[–]petgoats 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (28子コメント)

TWELVE DOLLARS!?

[–]RyanTheCynic 160 ポイント161 ポイント  (13子コメント)

13.

Round, don't truncate

[–]rndmstring 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Math.ceiling(value) is the best option in my mind

[–]4stringkingi5-3750 16GB | GTX750 1GB 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (7子コメント)

(~~value) + 1 for the win

[–]dlp_randombki7-7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX1070 | Arch 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Except this breaks when value is already an integer.

Math.ceil(2) = 2, but (~~2) + 1 = 3

[–]Thehulk666 65 ポイント66 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You thinking it's 12 instead of 13 is exactly why they do the .99. This is the first time I have ever seen someone actually prove it out.

[–]SupermarioallstarsFX8350@4.4 / GTX970 / 16Gb G.Skill 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

My son does it regularly. More annoying when he does it with time though...

@12:45: "we'll be there in about an hour"
"oh! So around 1??"

[–]Aerowulf9 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

His brain is broken, and I think its your job to fix that.

[–]CrazyJay117i7 930 @ 4.2 GHz | 16GB DDR3 | 750 Ti 1440 / 3440 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

they normally come with an asus board that is semi decent quailty

[–]ShizzleWaffleI7 4790k / GTX 1070 / 8 GB 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

My teacher used to say that they do the 12.99 thing because there are people like you out there that will think it's 12 instead of 13... I never believed him until today.

[–]catullus48108 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same reason gas is priced in 9/10ths of a cent

[–]FastRedPonyCar4770k @ 4.6Ghz ~ Windforce 980GTX @ 1540mhz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

they are half that price on ebay

[–]Joe59788 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh yeah one of those were included in my new build when I got my parts in.

[–]ExTrafficGuyRyzen 7 1700, 16GB DDR4, RX 480 4GB 702 ポイント703 ポイント  (114子コメント)

Every time something like this comes up, I'm always reminded of this old XKDC comic.

You wouldn't really have to create a whole new connector. Just standardize the pinout (which I believe is already pretty much the case), and combine all the wires into a single plug. You do it this way and it'd still be backwards compatible with older cases.

Gigabyte is already doing something similar. They have a little adapter you can plug the various connectors to make it a single socket. Still fiddly, but less fiddly than trying to connect them to the mobo one at a time.

[–]HeTalksToComputers 341 ポイント342 ポイント  (94子コメント)

Remember when USB was introduced and now we have 23 different ways to plugin a peripheral? Me neither. Sometimes the standard works.

[–]TheNazruddin 252 ポイント253 ポイント  (25子コメント)

With type-c we now have 10 different usb plugs. But I get your point.

[–]Melburnian 100 ポイント101 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Over 20 years thats pretty damn good when you consider there are cheap adapters to make most of them backwards compatible.

[–]oxygenium92 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yeah but interface is universal. With adapter cable you can plug anything without additional drivers just for cable to work.

[–]CaptainBritish 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I have so many converters lying around it's not even funny. I once needed a bit more length on a USB cable to get the device where I needed it so I chained them something like USB C > Mini > Micro > USB A > USB C. It was a hell of an inelegant solution but it worked.

Then again my computer is covered in inelegant solutions. 2/4 Front USB ports not working any more because dumb ex snapped something and vertically collapsed the ports? Plug powered USB splitter in, duct tape to top of computer.

Same dumb ex broke off an auxiliary jack in the front 3.5mm port leaving me with no easy way to plug in headphones? Run all audio through an Astro USB mixamp, plug 3.5mm splitter into aux-out and plug both speakers and headphones into the same output, turning speakers on and off when switching devices. Bonus is that it gives me an easy way to hook up my PS4 to my monitor seeing as it has no audio out but the mixamp does have an optical in.

My case is covered in tape, it is a trooper.

[–]GaianNeuronSilenced | R9 290 | FX-8350 | 16GB @ 1866 | Define R5 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

USB C > Mini > Micro > USB A > USB C.

I feel like something in that chain isn't spec-compliant.

[–]CaptainBritish 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That wasn't the exact chain, just an approximation. I was just trying to illustrate how silly it got with how many converters I used to lengthen the cable aha.

[–]GaianNeuronSilenced | R9 290 | FX-8350 | 16GB @ 1866 | Define R5 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Still, it's meant to be impossible to make a C-to-C cable longer than 2m, isn't it?

[–]Reed_SolomonFX6350|GTX750Ti2GB|2x8GBHyperXFuryBlackDDR3-1866-CL10|750W-PSU 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (15子コメント)

That wasn't the point of usb. If you look at serial ports and such USB is a godsend.

[–]Tyr808 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I had a serial port gamepad back in the day. No idea what the performance of those ports was like because I didn't notice any delay and I was a kid so although I knew how to install it I wouldn't have gone into any advanced menus.

Performance aside, you had to install a driver from a disc, and the controller would only work if you booted the PC with it connected. Not to mention booting a not very fast PC back then took forever. USB and automatic driver installs are absolutely a god send. Anyone using peripherals and external hardware of any type back in the days of anything before XP (I think 2000 could auto install USB flash drives at least?) Knows all too well how much better it's become.

[–]jigsaw1024Specs/Imgur here 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ahhh, yes, the good old days where you had to manually assign COM ports and IRQs to devices for the drivers to work. Same problem every time you plugged in some type of board like a network card, printer card, joystick card, tape drive card, memory expansion card, sound card, serial card, scanner card. Every damn thing had it's own card because the manufacturer insisted on their own connector, or your MB didn't have enough(Any!) connectors.

[–]blahblahblicker 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't forget the hours of fiddling with the config.sys and autoexec.bat files to try and get everything loaded in the correct order so everything would work. HIMEM.sys and EMM386...good old days my ass!!!

[–]txarumi5 4670 K, GTX 760, 8GB, 1080p 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Because USB was significantly better than the other standards. Before usb. It was common you had to restart the computer if you plugged in something. USB could be plugged inn on a running computer. So everyone wanted it.

[–]Zafara1Zafara123 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (40子コメント)

[–]lm794FUCK THE CANADIAN DOLLAR 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (32子コメント)

Technically more, that image isn't quite correct. The 'Type C' connector is actually USB 3.1 Type C. (There is no 3.0 Type C.) There's also USB 3.1 Type A that isn't shown in the image.

Also those aren't really "competing" standards. They're different standards that serve different purposes, and old 2.0 certainly isn't trying to compete.

Technically the 3 "competing" standards (if we want to call it that) are USB, Thunderbolt (Intel), and Lightning (Apple). And Thunderbolt is still made under the USB 3.1 Type C format.

[–]Mammogram_Mani7 6700k, GTX 1070 8GB, 16 GB DDR4 3000MHz 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (27子コメント)

It's misleading anyway. USB 2.0, 3.0, and 3.1 Type A are all backwards/forwards compatible. USB 3.0 Micro-B 10 Pin isn't really a standard, and Type B is pretty niche use anyway.

The only ones I'd consider standard are Type A, Micro, Mini, and Type C is starting to become standard (eventually going to phase out micro/mini probably). Apple Lightning however is definitely a case of NEW COMPETING STANDARD though.

[–]LuxItUpR7 1700 3.85 GHz | R9 290 Tri-X | 32 GB 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Type B is pretty niche use anyway

What
Type B is on the other end of type A. You know, the end you plug in to a phone, game controller, external hard drive, cameras, printer, etc.

USB 3.0 Micro-B 10 Pin isn't really a standard

I'm assuming you never had an external hard drive with a USB 3.0 connection then.

[–]badcookies 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Pretty sure he was just talking about Type B not micro b which are the most common ones.

Type B is used for printers and such and much more rare. 2/3 micro b are everywhere.

[–]MRX123MRXPhenom II 965 | 280x DCII 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Type B is for client side devices regardless of form factor i.e. standard/mini/micro.

[–]tehboredhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/namlem 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

A lot of those are cross-compatible with each other. Plus I haven't seen a mini USB port in ages.

[–]ThatOnePersoni7-7700k 1080Ti Vive 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've got one on my external DVD drive. Also I believe the WiiU Pro Controller and PS3 controller uses them if you're still into those.

[–]sleeplessone 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You do it this way and it'd still be backwards compatible with older cases.

Except I need to plug the hard drive activity light into my SAS card.

[–]xkcd_transcriber 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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Mobile

Title: Standards

Title-text: Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

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[–]unlawfulsoupi5-6600k | GTX-1070 | 16gb DDR4 | H440 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I relatively recently built a gigabyte mobo PC and when I finished found that part. That moment when you realized things would have been a lot easier if I had bothered to check the box more thoroughly.

Could have been worse though, got everything perfect first time.

[–]cpMetisi7 4770K , GTX 980 Ti , 16 gb HyperX Beast 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Asus and MSI also do it on some on their boards, if memory serves me correctly. Though, the pins maybe being snapped together at first alla some PCIE power then being able to bit split off would make for a better versitle system, I would think.

[–]Bcronwww.3dmark.com/3dm/18667329 3930K@5GHz 511 ポイント512 ポイント  (90子コメント)

upvotes = number of people that haven't experienced the awesomeness of plugging a reset switch to the clear CMOS jumper when overclocking or troubleshooting

Trust me it's amazing

[–]d00mraptor 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (23子コメント)

Or the simple pleasure of unplugging the hdd/pwr indicator led lines because I'M TRYING TO FUCKING FALL ASLEEP AND THIS FUCKING LIGHT KEEPS BLINKING AT ME

[–]polyterative 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Well most people turn their pc off at night

[–]d00mraptor 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I was mainly using that example for effect. My real problem was my secondary rig which serves as an htpc in the tv room. The pwr led is exceptionally bright and blinks while the pc is on standby/sleep or whatever. It's very distracting.

[–]polyterative 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've bought some fans with LEDs some time ago. Now I'm mining ethereum at night and I can't turn them off without turning the fans off. FML

[–]745631258978963214Steam ID Here 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ok, and what if you're trying to download the Dishonored 2 ISO, but it's like 35.9 gb and you want it ready when you wake up?

[–]Y0tsuya 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe but there are reasons to leave a PC on at night.

[–]manirelliSteam ID Here 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (3子コメント)

High end boards generally have dedicated reset CMOS or back to bios buttons.

[–]JinxyfaceGTX 1080 Hall of Fame | 16GB DDR3 | 4790k@4.2GHz 146 ポイント147 ポイント  (44子コメント)

It's not really awesome. You're just completing a circuit to short it. I've cleared my CMOS by touching both pins with a knife before. Lol.

My friends freak out when they see me shove a knife into my computer to "fix" something

[–]Captain_Shifty 159 ポイント160 ポイント  (30子コメント)

Or powering on the computer with a screw driver

[–]OnI_BArIXi7 4790k gtx 960 MSI Z97 gaming 5 16 gb vengence 113 ポイント114 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Doing this is more fun then it sounds

[–]Physical_removal 103 ポイント104 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Right??

touch

whiiirrrrrrr

giggle "trust me I'm an expert"

[–]timoglorAMD A10 & GTX 760 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Aaaaaaand now you are the whole family's go to tech helper.

[–]745631258978963214Steam ID Here 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

knowing my family:

"WHY U DO DIS. U BREK IT DA COMPUDA."

"Uh... I am almost done with my computer degree... I've done harder stuff than this."

"y u play wid electric you burn house down."

[–]lehnuggetlehnugget 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

WHERE ARE DA THE DIAMONS

[–]RichHammondFX6300 | R7 360 | 8GB 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Or licking all the pins to make a circuit

[–]shaft169Steam ID Here 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Username checks out

[–]nogmi7 6700k, GTX 1070 ACX SC @ 2.1 GHz 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So he won't be coming on then?

[–]G2geo94AMD FX 8350, nVidia 950, 16GB RAM, SSD 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well JAmes, he's just had a high current sent pulsing through his veins and is now on the ground experiencing many seizures and violent muscle spasms.

It's a no, he's not coming on.

[–]Colby347 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was something I learned when I got all of my build parts in the mail except the computer case and I was just really impatient to get everything tested. I felt like man conquering fire for a brief moment.

[–]sverek 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This brings too many memories.

So many mother I screwed that way

[–]kezahSpecs/Imgur here 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I still do that when I did stuff to my pc even though my board has a power button built onto it.

[–]NathanialJDFX-4130 3.8GHz Radeon 7970 3GB 4GB DDR3-1333 240SSD+1000HDD 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The point is to do it without opening it up

[–]Bcronwww.3dmark.com/3dm/18667329 3930K@5GHz 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've had to clear CMOS about every 15 seconds for an hour more than a few times. Once with a Bitfenix Prodigy M. Amazing

[–]Hdarr03R5 1600, gtx 560, 16gb, 77hz! 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why though?

[–]LamedVavnik1070+i5 Brasil Master Race 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love and hate this case sooo much. Looks big, but in reallity is not that big :( But it's sooo beautiful

[–]CheeseRat12🧀🐀 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's how I start my gaming PC in a cardboard box.

[–]jorkus_6600k @ 4.5 / GTX 1070 STRIX / 16GB DDR4 2666 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love it when you test your new build outside the case and power it up by shorting the power on pins with a screwdriver

[–]Lurker_Since_ForeverMay the -f be with you. 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's part of the ceremony to make sure it posts on the first try. Another important part is the blood sacrifice on the io backplate.

[–]lionheart2189MaximusVIIIHero|6700k|8GB Corsair|Evga1080SC|950Pro512GB 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

every motherboard i've had for the past 5 years has had a cmos button at the top of the I/O

[–]ChoobTubeRyzen 5 1600 // GTX 970 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My motherboard came with a small piece of plastic that fit each of the connectors making it much easier than before. I agree with you though.

[–]shekidem 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (3子コメント)

how often you have to plug these pins in?

[–]bbq_doritos 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I usually unplug and plug them once a day. sometimes twice. Just to see if they're still working.

[–]Yung_hittaIntel i7 | 8GB |GT 840m 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see the OCD creepin' fam.

[–]Firevee 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (19子コメント)

I'd go one step further and plug the entire front panel into a single plug.

Headphone, Microphone, USB 3 ports, USB C port, power, reset, LEDs.

That would really be something.

[–]ect0s 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Id rather keep the USB away from the mic and headphone cables.

Currently fighting a crosstalk/interference issue with my case/mic in; sound seams to be a common issue on Z170 boards though. I found that unplugging my USB gamepad controller did lower the noise somewhat, but its still screaming. I think it might be my fan controller or the fact that the audio chip has traces that go directly under the PCIe slot housing my GTX1070 (noise is worse under gaming, but everything draws more power then.) Its not my wall power (running through a power conditioner, into UPS), and I've had tube amps on the same circuit that don't have interference.

Also, different cases with different numbers of ports could be a bit problematic.

[–]Peregrimgigabyte 1080ti, 6600k @ 4.7ghz, 32gb ddr4 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yepp when I got my amp for my speakers I then started getting stupid feedback and crosstalk randomly through my headset. Drove me insane. I just sotpped using my speakers for over a month until I got a headphone DAC.

[–]jonirabbit 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some mobo manufacturers give you an easier version of that, such as Asus. You plug into Asus' connector, then take that and plug it easily into the motherboard.

I think they call it Q-connect or something.

[–]NightofTheLivingZedAMD FX6300/Strix GTX1060 6gb OC / ROG Swift PG278QR 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (27子コメント)

See, I'd rather deal with this than have a power and HDD light. My case has REALLY bright LED's for that and I can't stand when I leave my PC on torrenting things at night and the light is keeping me up. I could tape it, but tape leaves residue and I hate residue more than the light.

[–]throttlekittySteam ID Here 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like to see some HDD light, but not the super bright BS. What I've taken to doing is to swipe across the LED faces with a permanent marker, dims them down considerably.

[–]tjb1Specs/Imgur here 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Add a resistor

[–]TtyleryVaguely_Asian 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (13子コメント)

So you want him to cut the cable/break the connection and solder a resister in the circuit to get it to be dimmer vs just unplug the cable and have the light off.

[–]wally_zFX 8120, HD 7950, 16GB RAM, 8TB Freenas server 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Well yeah, you don't own it till you void the warranty somehow

Kidding aside, it's a feasible solution and not hard to do. It's more of a middle-ground instead of an "off" or "on". You could get really fancy and put in a potentiometer to change the brightness to whatever level you're feeling at the current time

[–]c_for 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well yeah, you don't own it till you void the warranty somehow

Truly a glorious statement.

[–]throttlekittySteam ID Here 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (12子コメント)

These need to be standard with all motherboards and/or cases, bonus points if they come plugged in already.

I assume that case makers don't want to include that step in their builds for a single solid connector for cost and QA. The parts are bought separate, so they'd need someone to hook the (correct) wires into this new header and check that they work.

[–]linkinstreet5960X X99-A 16GB DDR4 GTX1070 120+512GB SSD 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (5子コメント)

some motherboards don't use the same header layout. IIRC MSI only recently used this (They previously separated it into JP1 and JP2 for the past few years), and some manufacturers that do use this standard layout like ASUS sometimes does a plot twist and uses a unique one for their gimmick board, which, while rare, makes it impossible for case makers to produce this as standard

[–]throttlekittySteam ID Here 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wasn't aware of that, I just assumed it was an ISO standard or something similar.

[–]link_dead 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (5子コメント)

First they came for our ISA bus, and I did not speak out because I used PCI.

Then they came for our PS2 ports, and I did not speak out because I used USB.

Then they came for our Parallell ATA, and I did not speak out as I had switched to SATA.

Now they come for our front panel connectors!

[–]FarhanAxiqi3-4160@3.6Ghz 12GB RAM GTX 750Ti and a $500 Acer laptop 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I had a fat finger making it difficult to connect

[–]deavsiri 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you still have a fat finger?

[–]DarkResurgence 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (9子コメント)

What are you? A pussy? I say they keep it like they are, but they should stop labeling them. And make both wires the same color.

[–]kirashi3https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/4WkTwP 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Lol. While they're at it, don't even include quick connects - you must now be proficient at soldering to attach them. Or just use tape.

[–]JustDoIt85i5 4460 | RX 480 8 GB @ 1288 MHz, -84 mV | 16 GB DDR3 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Pffft, casuals! I make my own CPUs from sand in my backyard.

[–]Yung_hittaIntel i7 | 8GB |GT 840m 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Pffft, casuals! I make my own sand to make my CPUs.

[–]kirashi3https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/4WkTwP 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pffft! I make my own casuals out of the CPUs you make out of the sand you make from the casuals you eat.

[–]majoroutageI really need to clean my desk... 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The only ones where polarization even matters are the LEDs anyway. And if you put it on the wrong way, well, there's only one other possibility.

[–]ACCount82 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The best solution would be just shipping cases with connector hubs installed. You still can disable LEDs or add a speaker without cutting/mending wires, but connecting all the wires is much less of a pain.

[–]ugug51i5-6600k @3.5GHz | R9 390x | 16GB DDR4 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They should come with the boards to ensure proper pin-out.

[–]Aremz1911i5 6600 @ 4.4 GHz, R9 380 4GB 8GB DDR4 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I've only ever plugged in the power sw, and I'd like the option to keep it that way.

[–]fgsfds11234mitsubishi radiator gtx970/9590 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Who needs a HDD light these days?

[–]_quantumi5-6600K@4.7GHz / MSI RX 470 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It was certainly nice to know when GTA decided to access my hard drive instead of SSD for every single file. Definitely put me onto the problem super quick.

[–]carzaccA10-7850K 8GB 2133 RAM 1TB HDD 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do, sometimes my Linux installation decides to be funny and pretend to be booting while it's not actually booting and the only way to know is to see if the HDD is being tortured or not

[–]LooneyJuice 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, shit, I was brought in by Unpopular Opinion. My bad, I'm off again.

[–]ThatretroaussieASRock 980DE3 - Nvidia GTX 1050 ti - AMD FX-8350 - 10GB of RAM 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why the fuck would that be unpopular?

[–]Arkhonisti5 7600K | RX480 | 16GB Ram 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right? This is really bugging me.

[Unpopular Opinion (maybe?)] I think the world should be a better place.

[–]kugelzuckerSpecs/Imgur here[🍰] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (10子コメント)

compromise. so far i saw this with asus boards: you get a block that you can easily connect while not yet plugged in to the board so its easy to handle. when everything that you want is connected you just plug in the whole block at once.

no more trying to read the pin-designations with your head inside the case, etc.

best of both worlds, really.

[–]TtyleryVaguely_Asian 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Or you could just look at the manual...

Pshhh who am I kidding, lets shove our heads in the small cases with little to no light with a bunch of sharp corners and pieces that could get broken if we move to fast and hope that we plug the power+ into the right one and not the - even though it doesn't make a difference because of physics.

[–]kugelzuckerSpecs/Imgur here[🍰] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

are you saying that i should read the fucking manual?

dont waste our time, sir.

[–]Xephrey 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, the biggest pain of installing a new motherboard. That'd be nice if that was done away with.

[–]c_deltai5 4440, 16 GB RAM, GTX 950 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The standard actually already exists. It is in the same document as front-panel audio, USB 2.0 and 1394: http://www.formfactors.org/search.asp?q1=front+panel&submit.x=0&submit.y=0 In version 1.3, it is found in section 4.2.

[–]goodmangarth 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree with the suggestion by the OP. Growing old makes the job of putting the connectors in place very annoying. Everything is too tiny for old eyes.

[–]Idle_RedditingSteam ID Here 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Does it matter which direction you plug each of these headers into the motherboard's pins? I've always tried to match them according to the motherboards' directions and it always worked. I'm wondering if I did it right or if it doesn't really matter.

[–]deavsiri 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

For weirdos like me, I have sentimental attachment to my case. This case has been with me since I ascended back in September 2011. Unfortunately, the power switch pin header no longer works so the only way to start my shit up is by shorting the pins with a screw driver. 100% of the time, works every time.

[–]ACCount82 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You know you can rip out a new power switch, complete with wires, out of (almost) any old PC case?

They are standardized. I've never seen one that wasn't the same as the one pictured above since the times AT PSUs were still in use.

[–]Khar-Selimand Nintendo too 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alternate idea: have a little plastic guard that comes with every case that clamps over the socket and has colored holes where each of the wires should go, so you can tell where to put everything without consulting a guide, but still have options

[–]sense_makeR7 1700X | X370 Gaming K7 | R9 390 | Vengeance 16GB 3000MHz DDR4 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My current motherboard (Gigabyte AX-370 Gaming K7) came with a "holder" for all these cables that I then plugged into the motherboard. It practically works as one cable, but I have the option of not plugging LEDs and so on in.

[–]lookimdumbR5 1600 GTX 1070 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In my Gigabyte Gaming 3 there was a connector that you put them all into. It was much easier!

[–]LordMczesteamcommunity.com/id/JEST-Zee 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But then we couldn't power on our computers with remote controllers or our phones.

[–]Silent3sniper 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mainboard manufactures should add an adapter on which to plug these in and then this will be plugged into the motherboard. This way you don't have to do the cabling on the motherboard itself but you do it relaxed next to the case where you can see what you're doing.

[–]potatocucumberi7 6800K | TITAN Xp 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not hard, git gud.