Ideas = Thoughts. Thoughts aren't often scrubbed before they turn into speech. So, what we get is thoughts that are coming from places that don't have a whole lot of room for acceptance, and are putting them out there in really raw forms.

For instance, here's a thought, not scrubbed: "Conservatives are awful people"

Same thought, with a bit of extra intellect behind it to clarify: "Some of the things that a handful of conservatives believe in really are perplexing to me because they don't seem to take compassion and empathy into account when considering the effect of their actions on the physical, psychological, and emotional welfare of the citizens of this country."

Which one are you more inclined to engage with?

Same thing is true here. There's another poster in this thread who articulated his concern with the LGBT movement in a way that is totally logical. I had no problem with that, and I'm even glad he has those views. Moreover, glad he shared them. I think it's rare on both sides of the aisle to find a person willing to put aside their ego and actually try to understand what their counterpart is saying.

Too many people think some vile shit and say it without finding out where the thought came from and repackaging it imbued with standards of human communication and decency.