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[–]flibblebibbledibble 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's weird right? They think the primary purpose of a vagina is to hold a penis, not to allow period blood to exit, or deliver a child.

It can only come from the male point of view that that's all they want to use it for, forgetting that women are autonomous people who have their own uses from the time they start their periods to the time they menopause, and especially if they decide to have kids.

edit: I'm steering clear of transman 'penises' the whole idea makes me a bit too sad.

[–]formerlyme1988 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never thought of it this way, damn.

I've been reading this site for a couple hours and man it is depressing but also illuminating: https://terfisaslur.com/centering-trans-people-in-all-discussions/

[–]susannunes 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You nailed it. There is so much ethically wrong with transgenderism, beginning with the idea doctors can treat mental illnesses with cosmetic surgery. Furthermore, it is woman-hating filth.

[–]alliekizatyo 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It also puts "mentally ill" as an insult, which it really isn't. I'm mentally ill too. It's a statement of fact. Then again, those genderfeelers hate facts and words that have meanings.

[–]susannunes 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They will deny to the rooftops they have mental disorders, but the desire to alter the body to conform to the mind is proof positive there is a mental problem. Surgery doesn't solve the underlying problem.

[–]-backdrifter 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, they always take great offense when I refer to it as a mental illness even though I am not saying that to be judgmental. I have mental illness myself. Psychology is my field. I don't think that mental illness makes a person inferior by any means! I say it with zero judgment, but they clearly must view mental illness quite negatively judging by their reactions. They're very inconsistent about it all anyway. It's a medical condition when it suits them (like when they want their insurance to cover any and all procedures), but then it's also very much not a medical condition when that suits them too.

[–]purple_radish 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (26子コメント)

There are two major factors at play when it comes to thinking SRS genitals are the real thing:

1) Nobody knows what a vagina looks like or how it functions. Even women born with vaginas assume they are basically holes, that the vulva is a few folds of flesh, and that the clitoris is a tiny little external nub. Very few, if any, schools or parents teach female anatomy, and most parents also don't know it.

2) Most people have never seen post-op trans genitals, don't know how they're made, or how they function (and the lack of functions). Especially those of FTTs. People assume they look and act authentically.

[–]catholic2306[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, I have seen both vaginas. And although I don't have biology background, """"transwomen vaginas" are not and don't even look like one. It's really a Black hole. And that makes me dizzy. I must say that whoever wants to fuck this front hole or wound is simply a fetishist and can't see the beauty of human body and anatomy. My feelings move from pity and rage for these guys. :( :/

[–]womenhaveovaries 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

lol I wanna know what all those "removed comments" were!

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They were the same as this. Hahahaha. I tried tô comment but it did not work so It got loads of spam.

[–]heidischallengedum spiro spero 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was a cheer up bot offering a picture of a kitten. I banned it

[–]GCEagleBird TERF 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some women don't even realize they pee out of a separate hole. I wish Sex Ed, and Health Ed in general, were a lot better.

When I was a teen we basically learned what straight sex for procreation was, that condoms exist (not even how to use them), and a bit about STDs. They rather discourage sexual exploration entirely than tell kids how to be safe or how their bodies actually function.

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                [–]vulvapeopleI am Terficus 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                I'd really like to know what these doctors tell their patients behind closed doors. Are trans people willfully misinterpreting what doctors are saying or making up these claims? Or are the doctors playing along or willfully misleading them? There seem to be far fewer malpractice protections for cosmetic surgery patients since what they're getting isn't medically necessary. If these doctors are lying, it's probably more a consumer protection issue than a medical malpractice one.

                [–]womenhaveovaries 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I have looked at the websites of some of these surgeons, and yes, they are selling lies. Everything is carefully worded to avoid lawsuits, but they definitely give any prospective transwoomen the impression that they'll have a real vagina after the surgery. It's actually pretty sad. Look in this thread for a description of what their pouch is truly like...

                [–]endofthelinerXX-Marks-My-Sex=Female 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                It's called "CYA", or covering your ass.

                [–]womenhaveovaries 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                um. You want to know something disgusting? That hole they get, has to be cleaned. Because if they don't clean the pouch, it will grow MOLD. Seriously, I am not making that up. The epidermis was never intended/evolved to be... enclosed in a bodily cavity which has such limited/no exposure to air.

                An actual vagina, by contrast, is comprised of mucus membrane tissue. (Like what is inside your nose or mouth). It is intended/evolved to be perfectly healthy and self-cleaning when tucked inside the body, by producing it's own moisture.

                And btw. Since their pouch is made from the skin on the penis, their hole is no bigger in diameter than their penis, actually a little smaller. And doctors charge by the inch (just like a plumber, lol) regarding depth. The most doctors can do surgically, is six inches deep but most trans only go four inches. So they're advised not to have penetrative sex with men who have even average size penises.

                AND. Since it's not actually attached to anything on the inside of the body, if they have sex with a man who has too big of a penis, the entire thing can roll outside their body during sex, just like a sock which is too tight. Imagine the reaction when that happens!!

                It's NOTHING like a real vagina.

                [–]smug_lobster 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                In addition, the fake vagina, because the inside is made of the penis shaft and some testicle skin, grows hair inside that can ball up like a tumbleweed or become ingrown, so they regularly need to be emptied.

                [–]susannunes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I can't help but think of the song "Tumbling Tumbleweeds." That about sums the fake vaginas up.

                [–]WobblyEyeLiner 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                That hole they get, has to be cleaned.

                It must be more like keeping a piercing clean or it will collect sebum. And that smells like cheese.

                [–]alliekizatyo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                This should be a horror novel. I'm cringing so fucking hard.

                [–]nuffsaid_nopomo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Since it's not actually attached to anything on the inside of the body, if they have sex with a man who has too big of a penis, the entire thing can roll outside their body during sex, just like a sock which is too tight.

                I thought you were exaggerating

                [–]griffxx 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Yes a neo vagina is an inverted penis that is sown to a part of the colon. There is a 4% chance of have no sensation. So many are waiting for the surgery improves.

                Trying to make a penis is very hard to do. But it does require taking patches of flesh from areas of the body. They are needed to construct testicles, penis, I think rods have drilled into the pelvis.

                But none of these cosmetic surgeries can change biological sex.

                [–]terfs-upBetter terf than serf 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                This is just such extreme body modification - I can't believe doctors are shilling this.

                [–]susannunes 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                It shouldn't be allowed at all.

                [–]griffxx 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                The transition medical industrial complex might become a billion dollar business. There use to be a list of steps you had to do to start the process. It slowed the process down. A bunch of therapist visits, seeing a gender specialist over the course of a year. Having to live as a woman for four years. You had to really want it. Now the process is like a roller coaster ride in comparison.

                [–]QatNap 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                No, they do not believe it. I'm convinced that what is happening is that people are playing along and protecting trans people from the reality of their sex. Trans activists constantly claim that trans people who are reminded of their sex will become dysphoric and suicidal. The whole world has been enlisted to make sure this doesn't happen. If people believed it, there would be no demands for preferred pronouns, no need to prevent Germaine Greer from speaking and no constant repetition that "trans women are women."

                [–]earthgardenNo prefix needed 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I think a lot of the ignorance women have about female anatomy is part & parcel of why so many women accept that men can become women. So many women don't even know what their external genitalia is even called, or that they don't actually pee out of their vagina, or even that the clitoris is not just the outside knob but the base is inside. So many women, actual adult sexually active women, have never ever even experienced orgasm, clitoral or through PIV. And these younger feminists, well truth be told it started with my generation of feminists, the Third Wavers, keep selling this idea that orgasm isn't important to/for women and that 'most' women can't 'achieve' orgasm anyway...as if somehow we are just naturally born with broken parts or something. Nooooooo it's not because just maybe many men don't know or care to learn how to pleasure women (most women are heterosexual), and/or that women tend to get trapped in abusive relationships and/or financially stuck with men who won't pleasure them. Rather than blame men or explain to both women and men the mechanics of female pleasure, these 'feminists' choose to believe that their internalized misogny is FACT and women just naturally have this sexual flaw. Hmmmmmmm.

                How can anybody believe that most women can't orgasm, when the clitoris is the only organ whose primary function is pleasure?? That is what it is there for. But nobody ever talks about how boys exploring their bodies is considered natural so of course boys learn early about how their wang works, but girls are shamed very early for touching themselves and the whole business of female anatomy is shrouded in mystery. Some mothers don't/won't even talk about menstruation with their daughters.

                So anyway just imagine if you're a woman and you've never had an orgasm. You simply don't understand what all the fuss is about your internal business because you've never felt it. But any woman who has ever orgasmed knows darn well there is a lot going on in there. Whether you get to orgasm via clitoris or PIV or both, you know how it feels inside. It is not just the outside part, not at all. I really feel sorry for post-op transwomen in this regard and why I think what is being done to them is medical malpractice, because they are told their inverted penis really feels like and functions like an actual vagina. This is impossible. It feels and functions like an inverted penis.

                [–]Black_PhillipaDisgruntled Goat 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                If someone with dysphoria needs to surgically alter the appearance of their genitals to make life bearable, then I don't have an issue with that. If someone insists the surgical reconstruction is identical to a vagina and that women are bigoted or deluded for acknowledging the difference then they are misogynists.

                [–]heidischallengedum spiro spero 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Before surgery I'd like them to first exhaust counseling and therapy to help the mind accept the body. We have seen so many comments here of people who figured out how to see themselves differently. The body doesn't lie but the mind does.

                [–]JLK1122Identifying as hot pocket. Transiting to a pizza roll. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I would love to see interviews of transwomen over 40 who already had the surgery for over 10 years. What happens to trans people after years of surgery and hormone treatment when they turn 50, 60, 70 and down the road? What will their bodies be like after all that "treatment"?

                [–]KritRadikalTroons are Loons 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Yes, and they think their wound is superior to the natal vagina. It's disgusting.

                [–]yishengqingwa666FUCK YOUR PRONOUNS. 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                ...no end to male delusion.