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Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
drethelin
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On third thought, everyone else is right and I am wrong. The Dragon Army group house is a very bad idea, enough so that it’s okay to be forceful in encouraging Duncan to modify it or other people not to join it. This is true even if the required modifications are so hard that they end up torpedoing the project.

I’m not sure what my point was except that it’s wrong to make fun of people who are trying to help, and that if despite all the light social pressure we can muster people still want to join it they should be legally allowed to do so. I still think these are true, though more weakly.

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Can you say why?

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1. On closer look, a lot of the nastiness and bullying I was responding to in terms of comments were coming from one person. Most people disagreeing had good points and important criticism. That meant my original point of “stop being jerks” was irrelevant, since most people weren’t.

2. I think that also changed the pragmatics of the situation? Like, I was previously taking a God’s-eye view of “should Duncan be allowed to set this up?” But since none of us can stop him, that’s not really relevant. I think everyone else was answering the correct question, “Is this, as designed, probably a really bad idea, such that Duncan should seriously consider changing his proposal in specific ways, and other people should consider not joining until he does?” I think the answer is yes, on the grounds that the “forced to commit to live in a house doing this stuff and no clear means of exit” plan is dangerous for the reasons people say.  There are probably intermediate ways to do this that capture most of the value but lose most of the risk. It seemed like most of the critics were okay with these and trying to propose them constructively, but Duncan wasn’t really considering them.

Again, I’m not saying people shouldn’t be allowed to do this if they want to. I’m saying that I would recommend to people that they not do it, and recommend to Duncan that he strongly consider finding ways around this, and that if he can’t then the project is likely to be net negative and he might want to consider not pursuing it.

Since this was all that most of the critics were saying anyway, I decided the critics were right.

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