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Let's enslave EVERYBODY (self.badhistory)

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Here we have the learned Atheist101 declaiming:

"MFW someone on reddit actually defense [sic] colonialism which enslaved everyone that wasnt [sic] white"

[https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/6id413/comment/dj5iiyl]

No evidence is given, but of course we must believe him since he "live and breathe this shit bud" and claims to have a degree in political science, presumably having submitted his thesis in crayon.

Back in the real world slavery was done by people of every hue to people of every hue, and there was certainly plenty within the various European empires, but to say that colonialism enslaved "everyone that wasnt white" is obviously wrong. You can prove this very simply by pointing out a few of the non-white people that were not enslaved: for example Captain John Perkins a non-white, and non-enslaved, Royal Navy officer who gained his first command in 1778.

But perhaps attitudes changed after 1778? Presumably not in 1807 with the abolition of the slave trade, nor in 1824 when Britain defined participation in the slave trade as piracy and punishable by death, nor in 1833 with the abolition of slavery throughout the empire.

Or perhaps this powerful "white" empire was still not powerful enough to enslave everyone that wasn't white up to the 1830s. If this is the case then surely it must have happened as the largest ever "white" empire reached its maximum power and was expanding through non-"white" Africa. There must surely have been a huge expansion of slavery as they enslaved everyone that wasn't white. Except it did not happen, because by this time they had both banned slavery and were actively trying to suppress it within its territory and through treaties.

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[–]CoJack-ish 81 ポイント82 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Vast oversimplifications of the broad and complicated history of European expansion really do a disservice to the atrocities and injustices caused by colonialism.

[–]AngryCenturion 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A huge problem is that modern scholars usually focus on the bad side of European colonialism while completely ignoring/ making apologies for Ottoman imperialism, Islamic imperialism, Mongol imperialism, and any type of non- European imperialism

[–]khosikuluadhomomnom attacker 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, that sort understands things only as "muh explotashun = muh slavurey" usually as an adjunct to something about how a part time job delivering pizzas while living in their mother's basements is the equal of plantation slavery or, in arguably its closest recent analogue, corvee labor under the Estado Novo (or the brutalities of Leopold's Congo Free State). One can make a valid historical argument that this was slavery in all but name--and actual slave systems, involving servitude of a social and arbitrary nature between classes, did exist within European empires, just with changed names ("Oh, this is my aunt/cousin/whatever" as in Northern Nigeria through the eve of WWII) and it exists in many places today. But it wasn't universal, and it didn't always exist because of colonialism. That eliminates all the stripes of nuance that help us explain the why, the who, the how, and the legacies if we boil it down that way. Ironically, in championing the suffering of the oppressed, folks who lump it all together dehumanize each experience further. This was problematic even when the Marxists were writing about it, and they understood that to some degree. But we're still at it, no doubt aided by the emotional and political load attached to the term.

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[–]derlethLiterally Hitler: Adolf's Evil Twin 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Shakespeare didn't write his plays or his poems, but he did write this post.

Shakespeare was psychotic and had delusions that others wrote his plays, and planted clues to that effect.

[–]achilles_mDark Ages ended with the discovery of the Chart 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Shakespeare was black and also didn't exist.

[–]TheyMightBeTrollsLenin wasn't a true Lenninist 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shakespeare was fighting for states' rights.

[–]Y3808Aesthetical Marxist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bohemian states, but only the ones with coastlines.

And French states, but only the ones with tigers.

[–]The740Rommel was more honorable than Grove, less than Earnshaw 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Four terrific flair ideas right in a row

[–]turkoftheplainsThe Poor Man's Crassus 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

And he had epilepsy, bipolar disorder, celiac disease, and whatever else we're diagnosing historical figures with these days.

[–]derlethLiterally Hitler: Adolf's Evil Twin 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The gays are like the Mormons: Both convert the dead.

[–]Evan_ThTheologically, Luthar was into reorientation mutation. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So conversion therapy does work?