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[–]Fooomanchu 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But we need to get back to the OLD conspiracy sub topics. And by that I mean we need to only discuss topics of no importance.

[–]Putin_loves_cats 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The laws are also tipped in the elites favor, as well. Simply having actual evidence of it, could get you locked up yourself. We live in an ass backwards world, all by design.

[–]Orangutan[S] 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

“We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.”

― Chris Hedges

[–]TheMadQuixotician 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Journalists are killed for investigating it.

Really? When did that happen?

[–]Fooomanchu 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Monica Peterson.

[–]TheMadQuixotician 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Just read an article on it. One person was quoted saying kind things about her; she was described as a dominatrix. So one person thought Petersen was nice but she's just a domonatrix, so you can't really trust her judgement on Petersen.

/s

[–]psyderr [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

What?

[–]TheMadQuixotician [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

WaPo warning

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/12/06/another-false-pizzagate-tale-the-death-of-a-sex-worker-activist-in-haiti/

“Monica spent her life challenging false narratives,” said Domina Elle, a Denver-based dominatrix who was a close friend. ”To have her death be the subject of a false narrative is very sad.”

[–]Rocksolid1111 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

And then WaPo hired Podesta.. After he was accused of spirit cooking, kidnapping Madeleine McCann and all his questionable pedo emails..

[–]TheMadQuixotician [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

That it hasn't at least been looked into with any seriousness is to me the biggest indicator that something is wrong.

[–]Rocksolid1111 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Something is very wrong. Podesta has done several interviews since then but has never been asked to explain those emails, as far as I know.

[–]PlopsMcgoo 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

hard evidence

Please elaborate

[–]truth_kills [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I have a feeling we'll be waiting a longggggggggg time for that supposed "hard evidence."

[–]Beneficial1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You guys want proof of them sacrificing and molesting kids...You can't handle the Proof!

[–]Chaotix 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (16子コメント)

I have heard of this, but no matter how hard I try, I can't find any proof. I find a lot of things that look weird, or even suspicious, but nothing that really said to me "Wow. This is real. This needs to be dealt with". Just some videos of people going under Comet Pizza and filming, and a WHOLE BUNCH of infographics such as this one.

Can someone please give me some hard evidence or something that even approaches it?

[–]Smoothtank 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

So, you want hard, undeniable proof of something people with more wealth, power, and influence than you can fathom are intentionally and actively trying to keep hidden from you?

Well, good luck with that.

If it is ingrained into the power structure even a fraction of the extent it is purported to be, and everything is as connected as it is purported to be, then why on earth would you expect any hard evidence?

At some point you have to have some instincts of your own that detects things are off, and realize that the world probably isn't the place you believe it to be. Most people call this a "gut" and it used to be a strong device people relied heavily upon.

For now you have to rely on your reason and realize that, in this world, you're rarely or never going to have "proof" of anything, ESPECIALLY today where narratives can be oh, so easily crafted and truth concealed.

I cannot for the life of me believe that there is anyone out there who believes the official narrative of 9/11, but they do exist. And there are people out there who believe the US government wouldn't do that to the people of the country, despite historical "proof" that they in fact did and would.

Once you begin following paths to their logical conclusion and extrapolate "real" information, then credulity expands.

[–]mastigia 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Amen. I don't know what they know how to do to keep people quiet, but obviously they have something. Look at the Manhattan project. Thousands of people can keep things quiet. And this was one that was easy to get people to buy into as state secrets. Now, let's imagine these darker shared secrets, where everyone loses if anyone talks.

I dunno, I just don't think it is that surprising there isn't more information. I also believe that there are 2 kinds of victims. 1 kind that turn into abusers themselves, and the other kind that are killed by the first kind in some kind of sick hunger games sport. Or something along those lines. Dead kids tell no tales.

[–]Rocksolid1111 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've heard that when Jimmy Saville would entertain some of the royal family out on the yacht, they would throw the kids overboard when they were done with them. When it involves rich, powerful or high level politicians, they won't risk the kids being able to testify against them. That could have happened at Epstein's lolita island too.

[–]NSFRN [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Your pointing at the Manhattan Project but that was leaking like crazy.

[–]OhDeerLordMan 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (6子コメント)

There is no hard substantial evidence. When you doubt it on here some guy will type out this huge narrative with a ton of references to other things, but even if you spend 24 hours reading and wanting to believe, you still end up with absolutely nothing. I think somethings off about the whole pizza deal, but occams razor leads me to believe its something different, even if secret.

[–]jaydwalk 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yet if you look at everything and piece it together, you can get a bigger picture. Look a Epstein and Clinton and them running off to Lolita Island with Clinton ditching is security detail, that right there screams of pedophila since we know Epstein and his case.

Google "democrat and republican pedophiles" and you'll get a huge laundry list of disgusting. Even with that tiny bit of research you can still tell me that's there's no large pedophile circus going on?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4164082/Pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein-accused-new-sex-traffick-case.html

http://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-sex-slave-scandal-that-exposed-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein/

[–]WestCoastHippy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Volleyball touch #3!

[–]fuckallofyouforreal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's no substantial evidence because authorities won't investigate it.

[–]qualityproduct [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's exactly what James said. "It's not what you think, it's not kids" paraphrasing. But that was the gist. So, what is it then? It's still obviously wrong and fucked up just based on his own reaction and posts himself.

[–]Chaotix 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya! I mean, i am all about finding out about things that the elite do illegally and immorally, but most things have some sort of 'end' one way or another. It seems to me this thing has been going around and around, items feeding off each other, but bothing substantial yet, which is surprising. Usually by this time SOMEthing is revealed that makes me think 'wow. Yup. This is a thing' but no matter how hard i try on this one, i never can seem to find that.

[–]Tunderbar1 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can someone please give me some hard evidence or something that even approaches it?

Well. That very question is why we need an actual investigation.

Now, isn't it?

[–]Her_Excellency 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Can someone please give me some hard evidence of purple giraffes, or something that at even approaches it?

"Well. That very question is why we need an actual investigation."

See how well that logic works? Before anything merits the investment of time and resources there should be some compelling reason to believe the pursuit of it is not a waste of time.

[–]WestCoastHippy -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Volleyball touch #2.

[–]L00kInside -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

😂 i see what you did there. we definitely need a line judge around here. Too bad there is no point scored at the 4th touch hahaha

[–]fuckallofyouforreal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good meme.

[–]thakiddd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nice

[–]Orangutan[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Spread it.

Another: http://imgur.com/Ds8gpLz

[–]magnora7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But 9/11 was an inside job, and chemical sprays from airplanes to help with global warming and to promote rain are real...

I really dislike how those two are grouped alongside the "obama is a lizard person" and "elvis is alive", as if they were all equally discreditable. That itself is a bit of unhealthy disinfo, imo

[–]TrumpRusConspiracy -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Pizzegate Is fake news. Pedogate isn't.

[–]Analiator [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yea its unfortunate. Some People made a partisan issue of it... as a way to attack any opponents of a certain person.... which unfortunately deeply hurt a real problem.

[–]jaydwalk 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

That's why I wanted to call it pedogate from the get go, but for whatever reason when we were deciding names for it when the story broke we ended up with pizzagate...disappointing!!

[–]mastigia 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It came down to brand recognition. I am still iffy on how important that is. I just use pedo/pizzagate interchangeably in context.

[–]jaydwalk 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was on the thread that day when r/conspiracy was picking a name and just wishing I could get them to stop...no no no not pizzagate. Listen guys, not pizzagate, it won't be taken as seriously as pedogate, it didn't work. Ha.

[–]mastigia -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both sides of the argument made sense. Oh well, we know what it is. It is just going to go on the sidebar with our other dream todos haha.

[–]RecoveringGrace [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Honestly, the stupid name is what caused me to avoid it completely then finally dive into it to debunk it. Nothing with a name that dumb could possibly have substance! Was I ever wrong.

[–]Orangutan[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well it was memorable and got people interested out of sheer curiosity. Sure it turned some other people off, but it worked both ways. Advertisers love catchy slogans and I think all of the mainstream push back it got proved that it was indeed catchy.

[–]loomynartylenny [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

'Pizzagate' makes it sound a bit stupid, making people not believe that it actually happened. This is probably an intentional move by the mass media.

I agree with the view that a pedophile ring owned by politicians operating out of a pizza restaurant is just a bit implausible. Personally, I think that if there is one, the pizzeria is probably a red herring. After all, what better ways are there for covering up allegations about your secret pedophile ring by spreading disinformation about it operating out of a random pizzeria, causing a global online witch-hunt aimed at the pizzeria, and then everyone discovering nothing illegal going on at the focus of their hunt for clues? The allegations will all allegedly be disproven, the people who believe them will be ridiculed, and sympathy will be given for the innocent victims of the witchhunt.

Meanwhile, the pedo ring will continue operating, their existence disproven to most of the world.

[–]thakiddd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The only reason anyone knows anything about it is because of the name. Have u seen the Google search report comparison between the two names?