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Saturday, June 10, 2017

itsnotaboutyourfeelings:
zennistrad:
This entire thread is worth a read.
What?
This is all types of wrong. Does this person even know the biological and geographical reasoning behind fair and dark skin? Why some peoples are tall and skinny, and others are stout and short?
Is it really that hard to understand that people consciously stayed within their own cultural regions? Why would a large middle eastern or African group of peoples migrate into medieval Poland?
Ultimately, when your entire argument is pedantic to the point of being pathetic, the only reason to make it is to be spiteful. I mean, really, potatoes?
Don’t like the product? Don’t buy it. You don’t have the right to not be offended, or to be catered to in every medium. If you seriously can’t get into a game because “too much wypipo” then guess what? You’re the one that’s racist.
Not to rain on your “Perhaps it is YOU who is Teh RACISMS!1!!” party, buuuut there’s some pretty simple answers to a rather straightforward question you asked: “Why would a large middle eastern or African group of peoples migrate into medieval Poland?”
Already in 1235 blacks had been observed in the splendid retinue which Frederick brought with him on an expedition to Germany. A monkish chronicler relates that the emperor “proceeded in great glory with numerous carriages laden with gold and silver, byssus and purple, gems and costly vessels, with camels, mules as well as dromedaries, with many Saracens, and with Ethiopians having knowledge of rare skills accompanying apes and leopards and serving as guards bringing along money and treasure.”’ These unusual servants were surely Lucerans, since we know that the exotic animals were kept in Lucera between trips. Musicians are not mentioned, but the role of these blacks as guardians of the royal treasury is noteworthy.
Black Africans in Hohenstaufen Iconography by Paul H. D. Kaplan. Gesta Vol. 26, No. 1 (1987),pp. 29-36. The University of Chicago Press on behalf of the International Center of Medieval Art.
Like…hello? Central Europe doesn’t have a “white only” forcefield around it, and you’re both a fool and a bigot if you think your racist assumptions trump scientific and historical evidence of this magnitude.
Also, not to interrupt your stream of obviously anti-Black rhetoric, but not all people of color fit racial categories according to skin color (or whatever else you mean by “biological and geographical reasoning”): Tatars arrived as mercenary soldiers in Poland beginning in the late 14th century. The Tatar population reached approximately 100,000 in 1630. They’re still in Poland now. There’s yet another massive influx of people, who apparently did not get the memo that you think they should have stayed in their “own cultural regions”.
Not only that, the massive shift in representational art in Central Europe as a whole had an impact that lasted for CENTURIES:
[Circle of the Workshop of the Master of the Annunciation Polyptych: Half-Figures of the Magi, from Drozków ~1480]
[Family of the Virgin Mary, triptych, Kraków, ~1530-1540]
Also, are we totally forgetting the population of Polska Roma (the biggest group of Romani living in Poland, though not the only one!) that obviously would have been an integral part of medieval Polish Society, arts, and culture?
[“A portrait of Polska Roma poet Papusza (Bronislawa Wajs) by Krystyna Gierlinska.”]
Seriously, there are tons of people of color in Polish art, over the course of CENTURIES of history:
[Bernardo Bellotto; “View of Warsaw from the Terrace of the Royal Castle”]
The internationally famous virtuoso & child prodigy, George Augustus Polgreen Bridgetower, was BORN in Biała, Poland!
But honestly, I know better than to think anyone capable of throwing ^^ that kind of tantrum can be distracted by little things like “evidence“.