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[–]flown11 3423 ポイント3424 ポイント  (149子コメント)

This is awesome, and now I am going to be a jerk and suggest that it would have been cool to use different ships for each movie in order to differentiate them from another. (Episode 1: Naboo Gunship, 2: Jedi Starfighter, 3: ARC, 4: Millenium falcon, 5: Snowspeeder, 6: X-wing, 7: X-wing new model in orange maybe?)

Edit: Some of the names might be a bit off, but you know which I mean probably.

Edit2: yes, you guys are all right with your suggestions. I thought about this list for about 2 minutes and we should definitely change some of my picks. Probably impossible to find one definite answer that we are all happy with though.

[–]eldritch_ape 820 ポイント821 ポイント  (67子コメント)

Episode 6 should really be an A-Wing or something new from that movie.

[–]flown11 236 ポイント237 ポイント  (56子コメント)

True. Tried to get the X-wing in there somehow but there are just too many iconic ships in the movies. A-wing is great, Slave I is missing, tie fighters are cool... literally impossible to decide on one objectively best choice.

[–]eldritch_ape 248 ポイント249 ポイント  (43子コメント)

Well, if we stick to the theme of fighter craft for all of them, since fighters are more to scale with each other, I would say just exclude the Millennium Falcon and use the X-Wing for 4.

[–]flown11 108 ポイント109 ポイント  (33子コメント)

Someone who knows how to do stuff on reddit should make a poll for the best / most iconic ship in each movie. This way we could answer this debate once and for all.

[–][deleted] 178 ポイント179 ポイント  (21子コメント)

The problem is that the Falcon would win for all three original trilogy movies.

[–]wabrown4 134 ポイント135 ポイント  (14子コメント)

TBH the Falcon would probably somehow win for the Prequels too

[–]Error420UserTooBaked 98 ポイント99 ポイント  (11子コメント)

There is that one scene where it's in the background pulling into a docking bay or something

[–]Shortsonfire79 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (8子コメント)

One of the final scenes of movie #3 when there's a pan of the Senate Building on Coruscant. There's a YT-1300 pulling into a landing bay. I believe this was confirmed to be the Falcon but I can't remember.

[–]Most_Triumphant 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It is confirmed to be the same ship. I think it was called something else at the time.

[–]Nick9933 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks more like the Ebon Hawk.

[–]Granite-M 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There's got to be some kind of voting math that could sort it out so that there's a unique ship for each movie.

[–]EyebrowZing 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Make people fill out a ranked list for each movie. That'd be much easier to get results from.

[–]googlerex 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

X-Wing should definitely be for 4, Millennium Falcon can be for 5 as the story is as much about Han Solo as anything else and the Falcon gets a lot of setting/screen time. Snowspeeder is still good though.

[–]QuothTheGamer 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Having the X-wing for IV would make more sense because of the Trench Run, so moving the Falcon to VI makes the same amount of sense since it's integral to the destruction of the DS2, or move it to VII since there's not really anything else in there except for another slightly different X-wing. I think that it should probably go:

1) LIGHT: Naboo starfighter. DARK: Droid starfighter

2) LIGHT: Jedi Delta-7 Starfighter (would love the LAAT/i but the starfighter makes more sense). DARK: Slave 1/Geonosian fighter

3) LIGHT: Jedi Eta-2 Actis Starfighter (/ARC-170 fighter). DARK: Droid Tri-fighter

3.9999) LIGHT: U-wing. DARK: Krennic's Shuttle

4) LIGHT: X-wing. DARK: TIE Fighter/TIE Advanced

5) LIGHT: Rebel Snowspeeder. DARK: Slave 1/TIE Bomber

6) LIGHT: A-wing/B-wing. DARK: TIE Interceptor/Lamba-class Shuttle

7) LIGHT: Millennium Falcon. DARK: Kylo Ren's Shuttle

[–]ElectricAccordian 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

X-wing should be for IV since they are flying past the Death Star.

[–]StellarValkyrie 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (24子コメント)

I feel like the X-wing is more iconic in episode 4. Maybe an A-wing or B-wing for episode 6?

[–]mjschultz 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (17子コメント)

X-Wing destroys Death Star in episode 4, Falcon delivers the final blow in episode 6. I'd probably put the X-Wing for 4 and the Falcon for 6.

[–]everyZig 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (14子コメント)

No-one is going to think straight of Ep-6 with the falcon though, the ship got more screen time in the other two OT movies

The A-wing though... one of those little bastards wiped out an SSD, which then impaled the death star

[–]rider_0n_the_st0rm 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Ep 4 - X Wing Ep 5 - Snowspeeder Ep 6 - A Wing

[–]bl1y 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This leaves the Falcon available for 7, which works. Otherwise it'd be the T-70 X-Wing, which is too similar to the T-65.

Episode 8 will be weird though, because it'd either by the T-85 or Kylo Ren's fighter, but that'd be the first villain ship on the chart.

[–]Leto__II 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I feel like that should've been a bigger issue for the death star. Did they seriously have a SSD blast rating implemented just in case?

[–]Ranger-UKOC: 1[S] 136 ポイント137 ポイント  (7子コメント)

That's a great idea. Also gives me an idea to do something similar but comparing ships...

[–]flown11 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I am a huge fan of the ship designs in Star Wars. Even / especially the more crazy designs from the spin off series like clone wars. Best thing about the whole franchise. (to me, at least)

[–]Cyno01 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Agreed, say what you will about the prequels, but they had fucking awesome ship design and you could really see the evolution along the way to get to the ships we know from the OT. Thats where ive really been disappointed with the new sequels, the ship design has suuuuuucked. Yeah i get that the first order is sticking to what worked for the empire; TIEs and Star Destroyers etc, and the T-70 x-wings were pretty cool, but everything else and with the new stuff thats leaked from TLJ especially, its just more of the same, it hasnt evolved ENOUGH, its too much memberberries.

SPOILERS I GUESS, i appreciate that the new First Order walkers have blades on their front legs, that seems like a no brainer after Hoth, but they still basically look like AT-ATs, theyre a little more gorilla than camel, but its nowhere near different enough from AT-ATs as AT-ATs were from AT-TEs... The Resistance bomber and transport are obviously B-wing derivatives, but theyre fucking boring, and not different enough either, not as different as the ARC-170s were from X-wings. Hell, there was more evolution in ship design between the prequels than their was between EP6 and 7. V-19 Torrents became ARC-170s became T-65 X-wings... became T-70 X-wings. Delta 7s became Eta-2s became TIE fighters became... First Order Special Forces TIE fighters. Meh. :-/

And then the stuff they came up with from scratch was just super boring. The First Order transports and Snowspeeders were just grey boxes.

Rogue One was a lot better about that. Silly wings aside the U-wing was pretty badass, as was Krennics shuttle.

[–]acetrainerleez 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That actually makes more sense than you may give it credit for. The designs during the clone wars would change much faster than while the empire has a pretty safe grasp on the galaxy.

For a real world example, see the development time on tanks and fighter planes in WW2 compared to the last decades. Just during the war they went from pz 2s and valentines to the maus being prototyped and the is3 being shown off. Nowadays I could show most people an f35 and an f22 or a new abrams vs a 30 year old tank and they probably couldn't guess which was which.

[–]Justanothercrow421 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Or:
1. Naboo Starfighter
2. Jedi Starfighter
3. Jedi Intercepter
4. X-wing
5. Snowspeeder
6. A-Wing
7. Millennium Falcon

[–]everyZig 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im thinking the Eta-2 is a more iconic ships for Ep 3, it got waaaay more screen time.

[–]TerminalBoneitis 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think ep7 would be cool with one of the first orders tie fighters actually

[–]ThatKindaFatGuy 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're not a jerk, that's a great idea imo

[–]HanzoJinn 964 ポイント965 ポイント  (37子コメント)

Star Wars Light Yellow was my favorite too. Star Wars Dark Blue is a close second.

[–]jda823 339 ポイント340 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I cant believe you like Dark Blue Star Wars over Slightly Darker Light Blue Star Wars.

[–]msciel 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read that as "dank blue" and now I'm going to use dank to describe colors I really like

[–]blue_stratOC: 1 95 ポイント96 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Episode IMDb RT Critics RT Users
I 6.5 55% 59%
II 6.6 65% 57%
III 7.6 79% 65%
IV 8.7 93% 96%
V 8.8 94% 97%
VI 8.4 80% 94%
VII 8.1 92% 89%

[–]SheeEttin[🍰] 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

/u/Ranger-UK has the beautiful, and /u/blue_strat has the data. Now only if we could combine them somehow.

[–]iamagainstit 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this confirms what I suspected, the post obfuscates the actual ratings.

[–]MikeOShay 5499 ポイント5500 ポイント  (368子コメント)

Context for people as confused as I am: Height is based on their IMDB score, and movies are in numerical order, not release order.

It's a cool image, but it's pretty useless as a chart without the text overlay.

[–]Cole3003 2579 ポイント2580 ポイント  (165子コメント)

I could tell which were the prequels by their low rating

[–]talldangry 738 ポイント739 ポイント  (54子コメント)

Yea, that was a pretty easy one to gauge if you know anything at all about Star Wars.

[–]elzzidynaught 385 ポイント386 ポイント  (28子コメント)

Really you just have to know how poorly they were received is all.

However... labels make data... data.

e: This is still awesome though.

[–]unidannyphantom 106 ポイント107 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Which basiclly makes the chart worthless, since it basically tells you what you already know, but doesn't even give you numbers to tell you by how much. Guess it looks kinda cool at least.

[–]palmtrees2blizzards 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's more art to me. If you didn't know what it was, it's still a cool poster.

[–]sendmepie 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (5子コメント)

One could even say that it is beautiful

[–]FreeWalk 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But not data.

[–]FightingOreo 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damnit people, Data wasn't even in Star Wars. He was in Star Trek!

So sick of these damn fake Data fans.

[–]blarghstargh 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I've watched all the star wars films but it's all still a jumble to me, I have no idea what's going on in the graph.

[–]prowness 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (51子コメント)

Careful: r/prequelmemes won't stand for this.

[–]Davregis 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (42子コメント)

Prequelmemes knows the prequels aren't as good as they could've been.

[–]TootTootTrainTrain 81 ポイント82 ポイント  (34子コメント)

I've always felt one of the worst things about the prequels was the death of Darth Maul. Keeping him alive, IMO, would've fixed so many things.

1) You give Anakin a clear focal point for his growing anger/fear. The Sith who murdered the only father figure he's ever known.

2) Using that anger and fear Palpatine has a clear game to manipulate Anakin with to cause him to indulge more in those feelings.

3) As the final descent to the dark side Palpatine could have told Anakin where Darth Maul will be so Anakin can go, alone, to "ambush" him and he can learn to fight using his hatred.

4) This way we get 3 movies with this bad ass villain who *we* were robbed of so soon.

Edit: missing a word *

[–]prowness 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

4) This way we get 3 movies with this bad ass villian who we were robbed of so soon.

Think you missed a word and thought I'd offer a correction :)

[–]prowness 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Yes funny enough, Darth Maul was my favorite character of the prequels and he spoke the fewest lines. Probably due to his mystery and persona, probably due to the fantastic light saber battle with a unique take on the Jedi weapon, but I did always want more from in.

I also heard that he lived that fall (idk how) and became a cyborg of sorts. Does anyone know from where? I would look it up but when I have free time I want to check out the lore without spoiling too much.

[–]AntsInMyEyesGabe 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (9子コメント)

He kept on living in the "Clone wars" animated series that aired on Cartoon Network for awhile. You shouldn't be thrown off by the fact that it's animated though. It's definitely worth a watch, It's a critically acclaimed show. It's not necessarily canon though, they dismissed the Extended Universe as non-canon awhile back (books, comics, Tv shows, anything besides the main movies)

[–]pahnub 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, the clone wars is canon. Disney made it very clear that the clone wars cartoon series and the 6 movies were the only thing being kept canon.

As a fun fact George lucas made Dave Filoni (creator of the clone wars cartoon) figure out how to bring maul back into the universe. He literally told filoni, bring maul back. Filoni said, but he's dead how am I to do this? Lucas told him to just figure it out. Filoni did a great job with mauls return and his overall story arc through clone wars and rebels.

[–]Zarathustran 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Clone Wars and Rebels are both canon. The Clone Wars animated show came after Disney bought Star Wars and they rebooted all the EU. Also there are new EU star wars books that are canon.

[–]itsallcauchy 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Clone Wars show started well before Disney bought Lucasfilm. It Rebels that started afterwards.

[–]BailysmmmCreamy 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would also give you a better avenue to exploring Obi-Wan's relationship with Anakin and the dark side. He would harbor similar anger/resentment towards Maul and you could have him and Anakin discuss their feelings towards him as a way to explore their diverging views of the force, ultimately leading to Anakin giving in to his anger and killing Maul (instead of Dooku) over Obi-Wan's protests. Like you said, using Maul's death as a 'tipping point' to the dark side makes so much more sense than killing Dooku. You could even throw in Maul somehow being a danger to Padme as a way to convince Anakin that the "he's too dangerous to be left alive" mindset is the way to go and portray Anakin attacking Windu as a similar choice to killing Maul.

[–]BailysmmmCreamy 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's the other way around. They wouldn't have such great meme-dialogue to farm for content if the prequels were better. The prequel's cheesiness is the fuel that drives r/prequelmemes.

[–]kala1928 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The third one is the best of the prequels because its the darkest!

[–]theyellowhammers 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And the fact that #3 had the high ground.

[–]vegetables1292 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I could tell which were the prequels by their position on the low ground

[–]wsrdbro1987 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Except that the prequels, episode 3 is not rated low by Metacritic or Rotten Tomatoes. However, 6 is lower on those two sites. It's very confusing if you use user ratings and this is a garbage plot.

[–]Econo_miser 91 ポイント92 ポイント  (43子コメント)

Also missing Rogue One.

[–]PoopsForDays 125 ポイント126 ポイント  (14子コメント)

And the Star Wars Holiday Special.

[–]Drachefly 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I assumed that was the Milennium Falcon in the corner.

[–]ThereIsBearCum 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's there, it's just rated so low that you can't see it.

[–]Econo_miser 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a TV special not a movie.

[–]Cocaine4You 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Rogue One isn't an official "episode", so this graph is probably only discussing episodes.

[–]demusdesignOC: 2 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I really thought I was in r/StarWars where this makes sense, but it needs more actual data to fit in at r/dataisbeautiful

[–]Perezthe1st 128 ポイント129 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's a cool image, but it's pretty useless as a chart without the text overlay.

Applicable to almost everything submitted here.

[–]NotAtW0rk 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

More like everything that reaches the front page. Things aren't so bad if you chill here more often. But yeah everything pretty rises to the top.

[–]AlusPryde 213 ポイント214 ポイント  (23子コメント)

ahm, I felt it was pretty clear. If anything, the absence of Rogue One threw me a bit off.

[–]DaManMader 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (11子コメント)

How do you know Rouge One is missing and not Force Awakens? Or some other random one for that matter?

[–]sg7791 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Because the movies are numbered episodes one through seven. Rogue One isn't part of the flagship series. It just seems like an odd omission since it's the only Star Wars movie other than the episodes so far. In a few years when there are like, 40 Star Wars movies, but only 9 episodes, the distinction will be more clear.

[–]wsrdbro1987 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The user says later on in the comments, but again... no way to know that from the picture

[–]yolofulcrum 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right? Thought it was just me.

[–]MasterThertes 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Rogue One didn't really fit the story unless it was named "episode III.V" so I guess that's why it's not included. They should have labelled it though.

[–]SGNick 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe just add a random number somewhere's on the poster. After all, it's always been the rogue one.

[–]HussyDude14 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's that little millennium falcon in the corner mean?

[–]Ranger-UKOC: 1[S] 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Completely understand your confusion. It works best in Tableau public where you can hover over the x-wings. I definitely went for more aesthetically pleasing image than a properly functional chart. And annotations just removed from the overall effect of x-wings flying past the Death Star.

[–]pinkdreamery 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice! I always have the same conversation with my boss when I show him visualisations on tableau...

B: That looks great! Now export the image for me and slap it on PowerPoint.

Me: That's not how it works...

B: Do it anyway, I can walk it through with the audience.

after presentation

B: Why didn't the labels and numbers show up?!!!

[–]The_clean_account 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can hear my fifth grade teacher screeching "LABEL YOUR GRAPHS"

[–]Dizmn 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

THANK YOU. I didn't even know what type of rating we were talking about, I thought it was MPAA rating and it didn't make any goddamn sense.

[–]Notcheating123 333 ポイント334 ポイント  (12子コメント)

The "beautiful" in this image does not correlate to the "beautiful" in dataisbeautiful

[–]verdunkelt 142 ポイント143 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Which is pretty on par for this sub now, tbh.

Perhaps we could rename it to /r/dataispoorlyrepresentedbuthascoolgraphictreatments

[–]Latinfrogs 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/dataispoorlyrepresentedbuthascoolgraphictreatments

Pretty much my thought when I saw this. What does it mean? Where are the labels? What's the scale of the y axis? Is the difference between the best and worst actually huge or small?

[–]nikosv 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously. I'm becoming tired of themed bar graphs.

[–]Venom0923 514 ポイント515 ポイント  (115子コメント)

Where's Rogue One? Theres 8 Star Wars movies, or is this only the "episodes"?

[–]Ranger-UKOC: 1[S] 361 ポイント362 ポイント  (95子コメント)

It's only the main saga - the originals, the prequels and sequels. So no Rogue One.

[–]Duck-of-Doom 329 ポイント330 ポイント  (36子コメント)

I'd recommend having different ships for each movie.
Nabboo star fighter for I, Slave 1 for II, Jedi Starfighter for III, X-wing for IV Snowspeeder for V Mon Cala cruiser for VI (?)

Something like that

I'd say save the millennium falcon for the Han Solo movie, but I don't know what you'd put for VII

Edit: Work in progress, let me know what you think. Full credit to OP.

[–]CoMiGa 78 ポイント79 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I suggest an A-Wing for VI and the Falcon for VII.

[–]CallMeJeeJ 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (2子コメント)

For V I just want to see an AT-AT hurtling through space.

[–]Dvanpat 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Definitely an A-Wing. Maybe even an Imperial Shuttle.

[–]general_nuisance 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

No love for the B-Wing?

[–]Dvanpat 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The B-Wing gets barely a cameo when they come out of hyperspace. I do love the design though. I even have one of the old school Legos from the late 90's.

[–]sixth_snes 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Good idea, using movie-specific ships would help label the columns. At first glance I wasn't sure if they were listed chronologically or by Episode number... I'm also not sure why the colours vary the way they do within each trilogy. Sticking with the light-side fighter-size example set by OP, here are my suggestions:

  • Ep 1: Naboo Starfighter
  • Ep 2: Delta-7 Jedi Starfighter
  • Ep 3: Eta-2 Jedi Starfighter
  • Ep 4: T-65 X-Wing
  • Ep 5: Snowspeeder
  • Ep 6: A-Wing or B-Wing
  • Ep 7: T-70 X-Wing
  • R1: U-Wing

[–]dr_plague 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn this would be good

[–]Max_W_ 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (12子コメント)

It might be nice to have a random ship off to the side that could highlight its rating.

[–]Ranger-UKOC: 1[S] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yea, not a bad idea, definitely could have done that. Hovering over the falcon in the bottom on the Tableau version gives some more information.

[–]Spruxy 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Related, how great is Tableau? I've been building live dashboards for the past 6 months and it's just made life so much easier.

Also with 10.3 on the horizon, data driven email notifications are on the way.

Okay Tableau, you can pay me now...

[–]Ranger-UKOC: 1[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Tableau is awesome. So much fun to use and pretty straightforward after a while. But there's still a huge amount of depth in the software.

[–]dividezero 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

so my team isn't exactly that savvy so anything that gets made, I'll be the only one making them. That said, I'm dragging them kicking and screaming into SF at the center of a new data ecosystem. Other than sheer prettiness (which it's really good at no contest) is there any selling point for Tableau over native SF dashboards given my personnel limitations?

I'm just afraid I'll sell them on this software and then no one really appreciates the capabilities and keep dumping shit into excel spreadsheets like neanderthals. Which honestly may have answered my own question but I'm interested to hear others' takes.

[–]ExpFilm_Student 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

is there a legend? Or do they go in order 1,2,3,4,5,6,7?

I'm confused which is which

[–]shaggoramaViz Practitioner 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

While we're at it, where's the Christmas special?

[–]whyrumgone21 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it's only episodes, I support that. I feel like the offshoots are going to be a lot less predictable.

[–]MOONGOONER 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Counting Clone Wars there are 9 Star Wars movies that hit theaters. 11 if you count the two Ewoks movies that were direct to video. 12 If you count Holiday Special.

[–]I_got_the_conch 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's beautiful, but as a graph it utterly fails. You NEED some labeling.

[–]therealsix 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Maybe it's because I'm on mobile, but all I see is one image? Am I missing the data area?

[–]jurassic_blam 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No. Not missing anything. Whoever made this had no interest in communicating information.

[–]Penqwin 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What does the lines at the bottom of the chart represent? Is this in chronological order or based on when it's released?

[–]butterballmd 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Good looking picture but where are the values, labels, etc?

I thought this is /r/dataisbeautiful.

[–]UBiteMe 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Came to the comments immediately to express my grievances as well. No idea how this submission got so many upvotes...

[–]sebas8181 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

TBH is not even good looking. Looks like a 2003 plot and the random millennium falcon looks really out of place.

This shows how people are basically driven by emotions instead of rationale, which is really sad considering the supposed goal of this sub.

[–]_AlreadyTaken_ 214 ポイント215 ポイント  (8子コメント)

This is an example of poor data presentation. What is it displaying? What is the scale? Pretty but useless.

[–]sebas8181 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, tbh it's upvoted because how attached we are to Star Wars but if this was about any other topic this wouldn't be on the front-page, this would be on the crappy design sub.

[–]UBiteMe 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My first thought was that it was just a poorly grabbed thumbnail from a much more detailed post. Nope...

[–]Blarglephish 81 ポイント82 ポイント  (9子コメント)

The look and design is cool, but this is actually a terrible chart:

  1. No X-Axis
  2. No Y-Axis
  3. No data labels

Its also very unclear what order I am looking at. Am I looking at series chronology, or release date? The only one I can be sure of is the last one, which is the 7th movie both in terms of series chronology AND release.

[–]ArcticFlamingo 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

need labels and a way for people who aren't obsessed with star wars to digest this info.

Clearly as someone who knows how critics treated the movies you can tell the order as (Prequels - Original Trilogy - TFA) but others might interpret another way.

I would also have included Rogue One

[–]hooooooooyeah 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are no labels or context or anything. It's a neato picture but not a meaningful representation of data.

[–]nae_nae_ 189 ポイント190 ポイント  (16子コメント)

There aren't any data in this post. I see no words or numbers, only a picture. This is meaningless and tells the reader absolutely nothing.

[–]trevdak2 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isn't the point of this subreddit that data, when collated and presented in a legible way, is useful in that it allows someone to understand something that would otherwise be opaque? And doesn't this heavily styled, obfuscated, unlabelled, illegible chart go against everything this subreddit stands for?

[–]Vertibim 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but this is absolutely meaningless without an actual text overlay saying what everything means. R/art is probably a better place to post this.

[–]SoftlySpokenPromises 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I feel like you missed two. Rogue one and the legendary holiday special.

[–]Redarrow762 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Dumb question: Are these listed in chronological order (theatrical release) or numerical order?

[–]keneticpest 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't consider this a dumb question. More like a dumb chart since it doesn't label the X-axis. You have no way of knowing.

[–]Dead_Beat_J03 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well this is what I'm wondering, it looks numerical to me, the second trilogy is held in lesser regard from nearly all critical view points

[–]mazzicc 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is apparently a pretty polarizing chart. My biggest criticism is the lack of scale. Is this 1-100? 1-10? 7-10? There's no way to tell. Is the lowest score awful, or just low for this set?

There was some initial confusion over which was which, but that can somewhat be inferred from context. The lack of Rogue One threw me off though.

[–]wsrdbro1987 121 ポイント122 ポイント  (12子コメント)

This is objectively the worst plot I have seen on this reddit. You don't label, you use user (easily influenced and inflated) ratings, and you don't offer the values at all. If this were in a homework assignment you would get an F.

[–]Dead_Beat_J03 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Your ruthlessness is off the charts bro.

[–]corbygray528 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but is that chart labelled?

[–]wsrdbro1987 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's deserved though, hell I've forgotten a title or a single axis label and been marked off 20% on an assignment. This pile of crap lists neither.

[–]sdf222234 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

No offence, but this is a terrible diagram. It conveys zero information. It's the opposite of what this sub is intended for.

[–]tuyguy 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What are the units?!?! What's on the y axis?!?!

These data are not beautiful, they're just colourful.

[–]TetrasSword 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does the Millennium Falcon represent the ratings for the Christmas special?

[–]NullStellen 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

God this post is shit. The data isn't beautiful, it has 7 data points and is pretty much just a pretty picture, which goes against the sentence in bold on the sidebar.

[–]wu-tang_poon-tang 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This should be cross posted to /r/crappydesign

Furthermore, why are you calling this OC when you took the data from another, already existing, source?

[–]AerisLives8 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (14子コメント)

I still maintain Revenge of the Sith is better than people give it credit. I think it's at least on par with Force Awakens. The pacing moves a little too quickly for me and the dialogue isn't great, but Anakin's fall was done well and Obi-Wan killed it in the film. Plus, the opening scene still gives me chills.

[–]Ranger-UKOC: 1[S] 83 ポイント84 ポイント  (10子コメント)

For more interactivity - here's the link from Tableau Public to give a bit more context for each film.

Hover over each x-wing for the films name, rating, and release year.

I've only included films from the main saga (so no Rogue One).

Built using Tableau, data sourced from IMDB.

[–]flatcoke 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

what's the spikes at the very bottom of the bars?

[–]hoguemr 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think they are just ascetics. Maybe all the ships started out in a line and that's the initial thrust then the single line is cruising.

PSHOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo X=>

Like that.

[–]ZincHead 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (1子コメント)

ascetics

I think you mean aesthetics. Ascetics are people who severely punish themselves in the name of religion.

[–]hoguemr 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes that. Honestly I just threw some letters out there and saw what auto-correct came up with.

[–]Beagus 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I might be missing something, but I don't see the titles listed anywhere. Are we suppose to just know which movies they are based on color, or by order? Because for people like me who have seen the films but don't really consider myself a big fan, I can't remember the order, and regardless, the order is confusing since some people list the prequels before the original three films from the 70's, while some list them after the originals. So like I said, maybe I'm missing something, but if the way I'm seeing it is the actual way it's being presented, it's shit.

[–]fragileegos2017 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

a movie that's basically a clone rated higher than attack of the clones. Humm

[–]AmagicFish 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm surprised Episode II is as high as it is. I'm sure most people would agree that's the worst one.

[–]randomguy186 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is missing Rogue 1.

It's also missing labels on the axes.

The colors do not appear to add any information not included in the horizontal position.

The "noise" at the bottom of each bar appears to convey some additional information, but I can find no indication as to what that might be.

The background image as well a the X-Wings make it clear that this is a graph about Star Wars.

The YT-1300 Freighter (aka "Millenium Falcon") in the lower-right adds no information to the graph.

[–]oberynmviper 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think labeling units would be useful despite sacrificing some artistic value. For example, the first I had to figure is if it was ordered by episode number or chronologically. I also don't know what the critic value is so I can accurately decide how bad or good each episode is to one another in an fairly accurate basis.

Looks nice though overall! But as someone who sees data charts often, one of my biggest pert peeves is lack of showing units.

[–]HeintzelMention 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Am I the only one who thought episode 1 was better than episode 2? I think episode 2 is the worst of the series.

[–]Intergalactic7 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

slowly raises hand

me too. You're not alone

[–]INSERT_LATVIAN_JOKE 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is exactly the kind of high effort, low usability pop-art data visualizations I have come to expect to be savaged in this sub. Is it just the topic of Star Wars which allows it to pass relatively unscaved?

[–]wsrdbro1987 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

High effort? This is high effort? I could make this on Autocad in less than an hour...

[–]INSERT_LATVIAN_JOKE 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Higher effort than just a simple bar chart. And way less informative.

[–]PsYcHoSeAn 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Still surprised that Episode 1 had a lower rating than Episode 2.

I know that people hate Jar Jar Binks and all but I found the whole "Twilight in Space" shit in Episode 2 sooooooooooooo much worse than everything else across all other movies.

[–]Aldrich_of_the_Deep 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (46子コメント)

How anyone could think that TPM was worse than AotC is thoroughly beyond me. It's one of my top 3, personally. But this is /r/dataisbeautiful so I won't press the issue. Fine work!

[–]MrBoringxD 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (8子コメント)

If you watch an edition where the Jar Jar scenes are cut, it becomes a thousand times better

[–]AxJokes 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I recently rewatched the Prequels: Cheese Edit Edition. Sooooooo much better. He kept Jar Jar in the movie, but only the bare necessities to keep the movie from feeling choppy. He removed Jar Jar's voice and gave him something deeper (like from the cantina) and changed his dialogue to be less silly. They completely removed the underwater scenes so the movie goes from: "Meesa knows a-way into Naboo city. Messa show you." to Qui Gon and Obi Wan jumping down from the bridge onto the droids fairly quickly.

[–]cfmat 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

AotC is more boring - the entire attack sequence at the end is one of the dullest and most disengaging battles I've seen on film. Yes, far worse than the Naboo stuff. I remember almost falling asleep in the theatre as a teenager. It's also 6 minutes longer. When it's two bad films, the less boring and shorter film is usually the one I'd rank higher.

Haven't seen either since the theatre, but that's pretty much how I felt at the time.

[–]Zorak9379 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not only is this totally useless as a data presentation, it's based on terrible data. Do better.

[–]Bergfried 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Let's just hope the 8th movie will exceed all expectations and become number one.