"Our Brand's Worse Than Trump" Democrats Demand "Toxic" Pelosi Step Aside, Trump Urges Her To Stay

Tyler Durden's picture

Update: Nancy Pelosi does have one supporter who believes she should stay...

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Democrats' embarrassing special-election loss in Georgia, after the liberal media built up unrealistic expectations, has provoked a wave of bitter blowback that targets House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi.

As Axios notes, it's part of a generational argument that's also driving the party's 2020 conversation.

“It was a very rough night for Nancy Pelosi,” said Sean Clegg, a Democratic strategist in San Francisco, adding that he was personally a big fan of hers.

 

“Republican messaging attacking Pelosi appeared to be more effective than Democratic messaging against Trump. That’s a problem going forward, and it’s going to be a challenge in House races particularly.”

"I think the problem is we have not come up with an agenda and then we need a strategy to communicate it," Rep. Bill Pascrell, D-N.J., said.

 

"We can't just be against something."

On Wednesday, some Democratic members of Congress publicly voiced concerns about Pelosi, raising the specter of a leadership challenge.

“I think you’d have to be an idiot to think we could win the House with Pelosi at the top,” Rep. Filemon Vela, a Texas Democrat, told Politico.

 

“Nancy Pelosi is not the only reason that Ossoff lost, but she certainly is one of the reasons.”

Representative Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico, the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, reportedly met Wednesday morning with a group of lawmakers who have been conferring about economic messaging, according to several people present who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Mr. Luján told the group that his committee would examine the Georgia results for lessons, but he urged the lawmakers to portray the race in positive terms in their public comments, stressing that Democrats have consistently exceeded their historical performance in a series of special elections fought in solidly Republican territory.

 

It was in the meeting with Mr. Luján that Mr. Cárdenas, a member of the Democratic leadership, brought up Ms. Pelosi’s role in the Georgia race, calling it “the elephant in the room.”

 

Ms. Pelosi was not present.

On the front page of liberal heartland Silicon Valley's paper, The Mercury News of San Jose...

"Some of the toughest ads against the 30-year-old [Georgia Dem candidate Jon] Ossoff were those tying him to Pelosi, whose approval ratings are underwater outside California."

Furthermore, as NYTimes reports, in a possible omen, the first Democratic candidate to announce his campaign after the Georgia defeat immediately vowed not to support Ms. Pelosi for leader.

Joe Cunningham, a South Carolina lawyer challenging Representative Mark Sanford, said Democrats needed “new leadership now.”

 

Even Democrats who are not openly antagonistic toward Ms. Pelosi acknowledged that a decade of Republican attacks had taken a toll: “It’s pretty difficult to undo the demonization of anyone,” said Representative Bill Pascrell Jr. of New Jersey.

So with all that said, we are left with one question, as The Economic Collapse blog's Michael Snyder asks, are the 'toxic' Democrats destine to become a permanent minority party?

It has become exceedingly clear that the Democratic Party is in deep trouble.  Close to 55 million dollars was spent on the race in Georgia’s sixth congressional district, and that shattered all kinds of records.  Democrat Jon Ossoff was able to raise and spend six times as much money as Karen Handel and yet he still lost.  This was supposed to be the race that would show the American people that the Democrats could take back control of Congress in 2018, and so for the Democrats this was a bitter failure.  The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee actually injected almost 5 million dollars into the race themselves, and Planned Parenthood threw in another $700,000.  But after all of the time, effort and energy that was expended, Handel still won fairly comfortably.

The Democrats are trying to spin this result as some sort of “moral victory”, but as Dan Balz of the Washington Post has pointed out, there are “no moral victories in politics”…

There are no moral victories in politics. Republicans won on Tuesday in the most important special election this year. Democrats lost, as they have done in the other special elections in GOP-held seats this year.

 

For the national Democratic Party, the debate continues about developing a message that goes beyond attacking Trump, or assuming dissatisfaction with the president will be enough.

It has been a very long time since there has been so much national attention on a single House race.  A number of high profile Hollywood celebrities became personally involved in Ossoff’s campaign, and they were absolutely devastated when he lost

Celebrities who donated time and money to Ossoff’s campaign, including actresses Alyssa Milano and Rosie O’Donnell, used their social media accounts to react to the Democrat’s loss shortly after the election results were confirmed late Tuesday night.

 

Milano, who personally drove voters to the polls in April’s preliminary election and was actively campaigning for the Democrat for most of Election Day, tweeted simply: “Grouphug” and “Get in.”

 

Meanwhile, electronic music producer Moby and vocal Trump critic O’Donnell appeared to be frustrated by the results, with Moby questioning how Democratic “still can’t win” even with “buffoon” Donald Trump in the White House. O’Donnell tweeted: “DONALD TRUMP IS THE DARKNESS ITSELF.”

Where does the Democratic Party go from here?

Their anti-Trump message is not working, and their usual divide and conquer tactics are not working either.

At this point either the Democratic Party is going to have to reinvent itself, or they could be facing a long, painful string of election defeats for the foreseeable future.  To say that things have not been going well for the Democrats lately would be a major understatement.  I really like what Rush Limbaugh had to say about this on his radio show…

“You have no idea the degree to which the media and the Democratic Party are destroyed today. I’m talking about how they feel … which is complete and utter defeat, frustration and devastation,” he said on Wednesday, hours after Republican Karen Handel was a multiple percentage point winner over defeated Democrat Jon Ossoff.

 

“The dirty little secret is the media and the Democratic Party is turning off average Americans. They are not persuading, they are not convincing people Trump is a reprobate,” he continued. “They do not know how to beat Donald Trump. There are depressed and despondent.”

It doesn’t take a genius to figure out why Jon Ossoff lost.

All of the anger and violence that we have seen lately has greatly tainted the Democratic Party.

The Democrats have become the party of Kathy Griffin.

The Democrats have become the party of Antifa and mock Trump assassinations.

And the Democrats have become the party of James Hodgkinson.

U.S. Representative Tim Ryan was right on the ball when he admitted that his party’s brand has now become “toxic” in much of the nation…

Representative Tim Ryan of Ohio, who tried to unseat Ms. Pelosi as House minority leader late last fall, said she remained a political millstone for Democrats. But Mr. Ryan said the Democratic brand had also become “toxic” in much of the country because voters saw Democrats as “not being able to connect with the issues they care about.”

 

“Our brand is worse than Trump,” he said.

As I have discussed repeatedly, the left doesn’t have any positive vision for the future to offer the American people.  They cannot win in the marketplace of ideas, and so they use anger, frustration, intimidation and violence as weapons.  For quite a while the Democrats successfully used “the blame game” and divide and conquer tactics to win elections, but now the American people are seeing through the charade.

The more angry and violent the left becomes, the more the American people are going to turn against them.  The following comes from Daniel Greenfield

But Trump Derangement Syndrome is a symptom of a problem with the left that existed before he was born. The left is an angry movement. It is animated by an outraged self-righteousness whose moral superiority doubles as dehumanization. And its machinery of culture glamorizes its anger. The media dresses up the seething rage so that the left never has to look at its inner Hodgkinson in the mirror.

 

The left is as angry as ever. Campus riots and assassinations of Republican politicians are nothing new. What is changing is that its opponents are beginning to match its anger.  The left still clings to the same anger it had when it was a theoretical movement with plans, but little impact on the country. The outrage at the left is no longer ideological. There are millions of people whose health care was destroyed by ObamaCare, whose First Amendment rights were taken away, whose land was seized, whose children were turned against them and whose livelihoods were destroyed.

Of course it is quite true that the Republican Party needs to be cleaned up as well.  Many establishment Republicans use labels such as “conservative” and “Pro-Life” to win elections, but then they end up government like Democrats.  And so many members of Congress in both parties spend far more time and energy raising money for their next elections than they do serving the American people.

There is a reason why Congress only has a 17.6 percent approval rating at the moment.  Both major parties should take that as a sign that they need to clean up their acts, because the American people are sick and tired of the status quo.

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Of course the denial runs deep in The Democratic Party as a morning-after memo from the head of the House Democrats' campaign arm, DCCC Chair Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico, tries to buck up the troops by declaring: "THE HOUSE IS IN PLAY," partly because of "the nationwide collapse of support for President Trump."

And Pelosi herself made the following incredible statements this morning...

  • *PELOSI SAYS PROUD OF GA. CONGRESSIONAL RACE SHOWING
  • *PELOSI SAYS PROUD OF UNITY AMONG DEMOCRATS, AND HER LEADERSHIP
  • *PELOSI SAYS MANY DISTRICTS ARE NOW OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEMOCRATS
  • *PELOSI SAYS DEMOCRATS UNITED ON ISSUES

It appears all that Democrats are united on is that Pelosi should go.

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Ghost of Porky's picture

She will only become more entertaining as the dementia progresses.

Bastiat's picture

More money & more hate!  That's the way forward! . . . & THE RUSSIANS!

Keyser's picture

Term limits and donation caps, anything else is BS... Without these, we are haunted for decades by the likes of Pelosi, Schumer, McCain, Graham, etc...

Jim Sampson's picture

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  Let the feast begin!

eclectic syncretist's picture

Give them Ryan or McCain. They're RINO's anyway.

froze25's picture

Yeah, McCain and Ryan might as well both be Dems, they are Globalist just like Pelosi

Manthong's picture

 

A Trump endorsement means she’s toast.

FrozenGoodz's picture

GA06 - Win

Wall - Lose

Muslim ban - Lose

Muslim ban 2.0 - Lose

Tax reform - N/A

 

But the e-mails ...

PrayingMantis's picture

... re-arrange PELOSI >>> LIE POS ...

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chumbawamba's picture

I think the problem is this is a typical Democrat voter:

What is it?

...AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME DECODING WHAT GENDER IT IS.

I am  Chumbawamba.

Alt RightGirl's picture

Trump is right.

She should stay.

Republicans deserve some fun and she's no contender anyway... so it's a win-win.

Democrats and Lefturds Already Blaming Ossoff Loss on Hacks


NotApplicable's picture

I find it fascinating that the only person I've seen mention how fucked up the polling was is Tyler. Especially since it is what fuels the Dems mass delusions of battling Trump.

jcaz's picture

LOL @ cryin' chuck-  thought Trump had forgotten about you, eh Schumer?  Sweet......

The perfect demonstration of Pelosi's narcissism- anyone else would have stepped aside already......

Creative_Destruct's picture

So what are the Demorats gonna be FOR? If they pander to the Millennial Blosheviks and go full free-shitter socialist they are likely to loose. If they try to lean against the deep state interests and advocate Trumpian-like policies they are likely to loose. If they stick with the current failed Clinton-era/Obama-modified "triangulation" strategies they are likely to loose.

Bloomberg is right. This a fragmented party that has a tendency to tear itself apart no matter what the platform is. It's a bunch of  blindly idealist whiners who only know that things aren't "utopian", therefore they're felt to be wrong, and they are so divorced from reality they have no idea how to come to an agreement about how to achieve their unrealistic expectations.

macki mack's picture

Both Reps & Dems have sold out the country to Neocon Jews and Israel and their endless Middle East Wars. The majority hate both equally.

http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jew...

Au_Ag_CuPbCu's picture

"we need to pass this bill so you can see what is in it."  Go pound sand Nancy!

Hopeless for Change's picture

I sure hope we can manage to stay out of the Democrats' way as they march toward the lava pit.  FORWARD!!!!

bamawatson's picture

 FRESH --http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/pelosi-strikes-back-i-think-i-m...  !!!!!!

ahahahahhha hang tough nancy 

we luv ya

we need ya

grab em by the pussy !

(( she also wished JFK a speedy recovery from his head wounds  ))

spieslikeus's picture

FFS it's 'lose', not 'loose'. I don't normally care about spelling but to refuckingpeat it over and over.....christ, man. But, I still upvoted you.

Kickaha's picture

Close.

"Centrist" Democrats exist because the party needs to maintain its corrupt relationship with the ultra-rich.  The spice must flow.  Overall, Democratic policies include governmental support for and protection of the super-rich, garnished with hand-outs to poor which are funded by the middle-class or neverending borrowing.  Trump's victory showed that the middle-class working population has finally caught on to this betrayal.  Their tax dollars are being stripped from them and handed out to the rich and to the poor.  Gradually they have been economically ruined.  They hate voting Republican, but they won't ever elect a centrist Democrat, ever again.

But, the spice must flow, or there is no party at all.  The various splinter groups on the left have passion for what they believe, but no money.  If the Democrats remain "centrist", they lose.  If they pander to the left, they lose due to lack of money to fund campaigns.  Their last viable strategy to remain a force in national politcs was to give lip service to the far-left splinter groups to garner their votes, and at the same time give speeches at Wall St. fundraisers reassuring the fat cat donors that it will be business as usual once elected, and that no attention should be paid to all of this far left rhetoric the fat cats might see on TV or read in the NYT, because that is all just a show for the peon voters.

There is no possibility of agreement.  The far left wants to equalize wealth and income.  The fat cats won't support that platform.

Overall, this is a good thing.  The system needs to come down, the sooner the better.  The two dominant political parties are entrenched deep at the core of the system.  Both need to be thrown on the scrap heap of history before we will have any meaningful change. 

pparalegal's picture

It is getting harder to herd all those feminist-LGBTQ-BLM-Antfa-welfare queen-MECHA-LaRaza-Evergreen State cats running around the room hissing and clawing each other.  Well done Nancy.

SWRichmond's picture

No more goddamned defense.  OFFENSE.

Yog Soggoth's picture

Pelosi should be in prison for her involvement in the largest gold heist in history(Chocolate Mountain Mine), among other crimes. Pretty sure Shumer is intimately involved with Pedogate what with his close association with (soon to be in Prison) Jacob Shwartz. De Blasio, Obama, Robby Mook, and of course Hillary are also connected to Shwartz. Not sure if there is extra charges for commiting crimes while in office, but it does keep the spotlight on them.

Scuba Steve's picture

Great article on roadtoroota.com about some confiscations and real facts ...

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/196.cfm

 

TwelveOhOne's picture

LOL it's copyrighted to 2018.  Guess they're staking a claim on the future!

Endgame Napoleon's picture

All of the talk about children and grandchildren from people like Nancy Pelosi, but I notice that grandparents, like her, never want to retire and spend some time with their grandchildren. Womb-based, fake feminists, like Pelosi, have helped build up the enormous volume of welfare, taxfare and workplace absenteeism privileges that rig many workplaces for cliques of working bully moms. As with Nancy, there is an enormous amount of talk about kids and workplace family pageantry in these "diverse," EEOC-compliant, 97%-mom workplaces, with few of these moms, including those with husbands making a bundle, making the sacrifice in luxury items to raise their own kids. They let their mothers or $9/hour nannies & NannyCams raise their kids for them.

TwelveOhOne's picture

We must have worked in different industries.

RealityCheque's picture

That, sir, is a cuck.

It is male, but only just.

Erek's picture

I dunno. Is it better to be Oss-offed than to be Oss-oned?

Anunnaki's picture

I loved Kellyanne's tweet: Laughing my Ossoff

DPLETTENBERG's picture

Are you sure you want to know?

slyhill's picture

Dont be such an antiGenderite

montresor's picture

Democrats have the most punchable voters for sure

SWRichmond's picture

It's Pat!

Rest assured those episodes of SNL have been expunged as insensitive, racist, xenophobic hatred of non-cis otherness. Where are the dolphin bathrooms?
Endgame Napoleon's picture

But SNL probably hired special film conservators to protect the "Church Lady" skits, which were funny, and conservatives would not try to censor them. Why? Because, most conservatives have a sense of humor.

This is one reason why the left does not understand Trump. Trump means what he says, but there is also an element of humor that the left does not tolerate.

I spent many years as a progressive and failed to see that tendency among the left. That is always a key weakness of the left: intolerance for speech. This is what the old-school communists did: sent people to Siberia over jokes. Not that I am trying to revive the long-gone Cold War with that comment.

But the anti-PC, speech-liberation theme was a central reason for the Trump win. It was not the most important thing. It was the America-last, economic and security platform of the Democrat Party--their choice to put mass immigration ahead of both the economic well being and the safety of American citizens.

Since free speech is important, a respect for that concept has to be applied to both sides. The issue here is the degradation of society to the point where people feel comfortable making extremely violent, targeted graphic images or altering plays with anti-murder messages to promote murderous themes.

This is the crucial difference: Shakespeare's plays are sometimes violent, but not in the name of promoting violence, quite the opposite. The bard's plays make you think about the folly of violence. So, the Dems abuse the time-honored, Constitutional and artistic concept of free speech to promote something evil.

It likely is hate-related, and many progressives do hate many of the things on this list below, not all of them, though, and Republicans should remember that Trump got many cross-over votes in this election.

I do not agree that progressives hate "babies" or "large families" as listed. In fact, no group has done more to reward citizens and non citizens for reproduction than progressives, ensuring everything from free food, to free rent and Child Tax Credits up to $6,269, increasing in amount per live birth. I just heard CNN trying to confuse this issue again, claiming that immigrants are not eligible for welfare [Big Lie]. They get it through their American-born kids.

The pro large-family Obama even raised those Child Tax Credits above $8,000/year for large families, while the childless, low-income workers competing with these welfare-infused workers for jobs have to pay everything, including unaffordable housing, with the low wages alone. They get virtually no welfare and $300-or-less tax returns, when they are even hired in the womb-centric job world, created by fake-feminist Democrats lauding "working families" and "working moms."

Childless citizens over 40 who constitue 28% of the US population need to be added to this list of groups that progressives hate, unless the childless people fall into one of the left's other victim groups.

I also think that hard work needs to be added to the list of things progressives hate. Womb productivity is rewarded much more than hard work in Democrat philosophy, and hard work is punished, particularly for low and moderate-income, single, childless employees and self-employed people, in general.

"Working families" are not hated by either party to say the least. Many of them do not have to work very hard to get the love showered on them in all policy quarters from both parties. All they have to do is to have sex and have babies, whether or not they are citizens. Many of them do not bother to vote, either.

Childless citizens are hated by both parties in all tax and other policy except maybe the programs that citizens actually pay into for 50 years, assuming they are not self-employed and paying twice as much SS tax from often limited net income. Those extremely popular programs are becoming more in danger, anyway, with mass offshoring and automation-based underemployment reducing contributions, not to mention attempts to raise the retirement age until the programs are meaningless

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/a-list-of-100-things-that-li...

TwelveOhOne's picture

I find it amusing that, in speech, you can't tell the difference between "cis" and "'sis" (as in, my sister).  Way to go, ambiguity!

SWRichmond's picture

...AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME DECODING WHAT GENDER IT IS.

So is it.  I no longer care, except for the lives which are being destroyed, and the children who are being (and who will be) mutilated.  I never make eye contact with these people anymore.  I ignore them completely.  I never speak to them.  I never hold a door for them.  Anything I say or do might be wrong, so my philosophy is entirely rational.  They deliberately made it hard for me to understand them, and it has become too hard, so I don't.

TwelveOhOne's picture

I love the response.  It's like ICQ's response when government said "you can't collect data on childern under 13" -- their TOS changed to "if you're under 13, you can't use our shit."

Captain Benny's picture

Seriously.  What the hell happened to gender identity?  If I go out drinking, I certainly want to go home with a woman that looks like a woman. 

Creepy_Azz_Crackaah's picture

Ask whether it is schlonged or schlongless before you even start.

Bubba Rum Das's picture

'Toxic' Pelosi!
Too goddamn funny!
Yeah, you just CAN'T make this shit up!


But WE ALL KNEW it had to come apart at the seams sooner or later!

SWRichmond's picture

There have been hosts of Billy Boys outside Clark and Subic for generations.

http://angelescity.com/news/view/618

Four chan's picture

it should have nothing to do with governance.

tnquake's picture

It's a ummm; no facial hair, zit on forhead, plaid shirt with soft hands, so not a lumberjack... I give up!

TwelveOhOne's picture

He wears high heels, he skips and jumps, he likes to press wild flowers...