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[Video] I Practiced Piano For Over 500 Hours, Starting As A Complete Beginner. (youtube.com)

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[–]Krypt0night 2801 ポイント2802 ポイント  (266子コメント)

Your first day is better than my first month has been

[–]karnata 1320 ポイント1321 ポイント  (161子コメント)

For real. I just started piano lessons about a month ago. Props to this guy, but I don't think I'd consider him a "beginner" - he clearly already has some musical knowledge if that's what his first day looks like. I started with not really knowing what the notes were on the staff (or that it was called a staff even!), where to put my hands, etc. I'm maybe where he was on the first day now.

[–]specialed101 845 ポイント846 ポイント  (96子コメント)

Look at his room. guitars, posters of musicians, and other musical things. This guy clearly has a gift for music. If I practiced 1hr per day for 2 years I doubt I'd be as good as he

[–]RIP_Hopscotch 340 ポイント341 ポイント  (30子コメント)

Yup. I played double horn from 4th -> 12th Grade. Around 10th grade I tried to pick up guitar and it was much easier than I had expected it to be, or than my teacher had thought it would be.

I'm far from a gifted horn player or guitarist (mostly because I hate practicing). But prior musical knowledge definitely helps when you're learning other instruments.

[–]Awdayshus3 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I had a friend who lived on my floor in the dorms in college. He played trumpet very well and was very musically talented. He now conducts orchestra and teaches at a university. He never touched a guitar until freshman year, and he picked it up quickly. He used his newfound talent to lead sing-alongs of Jimmy Buffet.

[–]MRKYMRKandFNKYBNCH 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Can confirm. Started playing piano when I was 5. Picked up some drum sticks shortly after and played percussion in band throughout school. I picked up the guitar when I was 14 as well. I am able to pick up basically any brass or woodwind instrument and play a scale, just from my ear.

It's all about basic music theory and ear training. Once of you have the basics down, it's much easier to learn other instruments. Obviously you need to have a bit of tallent and perseverance.

[–]Tiger3720 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Here's the difference though. I played the trumpet in high school and college and I actually picked up the sax fairly easy - but the piano is a whole different animal. Without exception, when learning an instrument you are learning just one line of music - either treble clef or bass clef.

Playing the piano involves both lines at the same time. Then add the fact that the fingering key for a G on the treble clef is not the same fingering key in bass clef. I could never comprehend bass clef notes after playing treble clef notes my entire life.

You can learn to play the piano by simply learning chords with your left hand and the melody with your right and cheat it to the point of nobody ever knowing you can't read music - but actually learning to read piano music is quite an accomplishment.

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    [–]Urbanscuba 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    That's because the french horn is one of the most difficult brass instruments to play. If you stuck with that for 8 years you're obviously talented and committed, I wouldn't be surprised if you learned many instruments easily.

    Starting with a double horn is like starting on hard mode, when you switched to guitar you were expecting something equally difficult but it's much easier.

    [–]NarwhalStreet 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I learned Trumpet with braces. That was fun. You ain't on that brass grind until your lips bleed. :)

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      [–]drkalmenius 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Yeah. After playing keyboard for about 4 years in primary school, I picked up trombone very quickly, and was Grade 5 within 3 years.

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        [–]Rhodie114 139 ポイント140 ポイント  (10子コメント)

        This guy clearly has a gift for music. has already put in some work prior to day 1 on the piano.

        [–]ioncehadsexinapool 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        I mean who hasn't messed around with the occasional piano?

        [–]Tiger3720 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        True - but there are some nuances there that can be picked up. His left-hand position is too good in the first 30 seconds, and there is actually a matching change of notes on-beat with both hands which hardly anybody does. This may be due to having natural talent. The double finger hits are what child would do and also kind of a giveaway.

        That being said - I'm in no way diminishing his accomplishment. To play like that is awesome, the hardest part - reading both bass and treble clef at the same time (two different lines of music with different notes and rests), then learning it and memorizing it to play like that. He surely wanted to give us all some motivation and I think when he got some proficiency, he tried to give us a starting point to show progress.

        In fact - if I'm wrong, I apologize - if I'm right, I would say I would probably do the exact same thing. Congratulations on having a lifelong companion!

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            [–]Leaxe 91 ポイント92 ポイント  (5子コメント)

            Saying "gift" is pretty discrediting. Yes, already knowing one instrument makes learning a second easier. Doesn't mean OP didn't put any work into it. OP still had to put in the work to learn guitar.

            However, some points can be made. Someone who is first learning music as an adult no doubt has a disadvantage, but the reason isn't just that "they aren't gifted". Exposure to playing music early on in life is (in my opinion) really, really beneficial if you want an easy time learning later in life.

            [–]thisisathrowaway6001 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (18子コメント)

            If that's the story you tell yourself, than you're right.

            [–]Guitarman56 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (14子コメント)

            Exactly, so many people put themselves in a box and tell themselves I can never be that good, so they never become that good. It's really just a self-fulfilling prophecy.

            [–]PoliticalSafeSpace 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (7子コメント)

            I'm not so sure I'm seeing lots of "I can never be good" up in this thread. More of a realization that if anyone wants to be this good more than 500 hours it will require.

            [–]lynx_and_nutmeg 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            It's not just the amount of practice but the quality of practice that matters. One person's 500 hours would not necessarily equal another person's 500 hours.

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                    [–]h-jay 185 ポイント186 ポイント  (33子コメント)

                    Exactly. He has a good sense of rhythm and could stay mostly in time. And he seems to be improvising and familiar with chords and progressions. So nope, this beginner stuff is solid bs. He is a beginner on that particular instrument. I was a complete beginner period, with 0 music experience of any kind, and I'm ~400 hours in with two good teachers and I'm nowhere near where he is, and that's more representative of where a random non-musical person would be. Perhaps that's also because I spread my time between both piano and organ, and techniques for both are somewhat different.

                    [–]RazorRex 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                    You are absolutely right. It was blatantly obvious he's had musical experience when his "Just starting LOL" part was pretty damn impressive.

                    By his 4 month mark he was playing better than most high schoolers in band classes.

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                      [–]Kebooms 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                      Well don't keep me waiting, what is a staff?

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                        [–]white_genocidist 350 ポイント351 ポイント  (61子コメント)

                        Those first moments in the video are NOT the work of a complete beginner. I can't believe people are falling for this.

                        I grew up in a household of amateur musicians and like many here, I had piano lessons growing up (as well as guitar). I was never very good at either but I know enough to spot someone who has had some practice. We had a piano in our living room and I have seen countless novices try and play during my childhood. I don't believe for a single second that that opening session of this video is that of a "complete beginner."

                        The point of the video is well taken but the beginning part is rather misleading.

                        [–]RazorRex 230 ポイント231 ポイント  (45子コメント)

                        Exactly. Doing chords with both hands at the same time as a first time beginner? No. Fucking. Way. You one finger those keys until much later.

                        [–]medina_sod 191 ポイント192 ポイント  (26子コメント)

                        True. I'm a classically trained pianist and piano teacher, I've seen hundreds of day 1's, and there is no way that's day 1.

                        [–]Part_Time_Terrorist 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                        I was doing chords with piano very early on, although I had about a decade of guitar experience behind me at that point. I don't think it's out of this realm that that was OP first day

                        [–]RazorRex 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                        Yeah, I think that's my point -- OP has it as "FIRST DAY EVUH WITH PIANO LUL" When it's obvious he has musical training and experience.

                        Although now that I'm done bashing the shit out of OP I read he uses an app? But still, the sense of rhythm and timing OP has on Day "1" with triads is beyond that of a beginner.

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                            [–]7stentguy 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Most certainly not a complete beginner. Muscle memory is even noticeable. Perhaps he left a few months or a lot more off in the video just to save us of the very very bad? Maybe he had lessons when he was much younger? Most certainly not a "complete beginner" If it is indeed true from where he started in this video, it is still very impressive anyway.

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                              [–]Saiing 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                              It's not his first day. He was playing chord progressions on day one. An absolute beginner is tapping out a very simple tune with one hand, a note at a time and struggling to learn the names of the keys.

                              I paid my way through college by teaching piano. No beginner I've ever met is even remotely close to this guy. He's either a prodigy (which he clearly isn't - his technique is too sloppy) or this is total BS. For sure a lot of progress can be made in 1.5 years if a student practices daily, but the premise behind this video is total fabrication.

                              [–]caffelover9 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I agree. I've been playing piano for 12 yrs

                              This guy is using chord progressions that rarely comes without many hours of practice..and it's his muscle memory leading him to the chords..

                              He's playing sloppy but his hands are in decent form. Very rare for a beginner

                              If seen quite a few beginners and family members still pecking away at the keys with 2 fingers. even after 2 or 3 months

                              This guy is obviously full of it

                              But hey. If it motivates some sucker into thinking they'll be playing show tunes by August.....go for it

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                                [–]newscommentsreal 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                Yeah. This is me playing. I saw this guy's "first day" and my reaction was FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCKKKKK YOU and your disgusting talent buddy. Dude either has a bajillion years of music experience or is some kind of genius/prodigy.

                                [–]RazorRex 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                Yup. I remember my first lessons with a piano. You barely use both hands, much less able to establish chords like he does.

                                [–]chemdot 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                I used both hands on my first. A lot of people I know did start with using one, but they quickly switched to two, and then a crowbar because they build these instruments to take quite a punch these days.

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                                  [–]johnw188 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Slow down! You have the chops to play it properly, just need to take it down to the speed at which you can hit everything perfectly and smoothly then take it up from there.

                                  [–]I_love_420 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Dude, Moonlight Sonata 3rd movement is advanced as hell. You should be proud.

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                                    [–]peon_taking_credit 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    He's lying

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                                      [–]Threeknucklesdeeper 2451 ポイント2452 ポイント  (67子コメント)

                                      So the trick is to start out in my underware and I'll get better as I wear longer pants, got it.

                                      [–]JordanNexhip[S] 2346 ポイント2347 ポイント  (56子コメント)

                                      One day I want to be so good that my pants drag down the hallway

                                      [–]parposbio1 679 ポイント680 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                      /r/nocontext

                                      [–]Wayward_Hendricks 207 ポイント208 ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                      Great improvement but I'm not sure how you can call yourself a "complete beginner" at the start. You seem to be able to read music, know where your notes are, play 3 note chords, hold a fairly steady rhythm, play with both hands at once, and coordinate them to play different parts. How much time did you have on the piano at the start? How much experience did you have in related activities that carried over? Your starting point seems like more than 100 hours in?

                                      [–]robotcockoferasmus 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                      Yeah to be honest I thought he'd be playing hot crossed buns in the first scene. The guitar in the background also makes it seem like op has more musical background than he is letting on...

                                      [–]lorarc 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                      I know quite a few people who own guitars but never actually play. Sometimes it's just a nice dust catcher. I personally went for a harmonica.

                                      [–]JordanNexhip[S] 162 ポイント163 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                      I was a complete beginner at the start of the video, I was copying off synthesia which visually displays the notes (I couldn't read sheet music). At the very start of the video I just started playing that night.

                                      Maybe you mistaked the 2 months section as the start? By then I had accumulated about 60 hours worth.

                                      [–]Mechanon84 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                      You had a handful of chords down and were able to switch between them without any hesitation. That's not someone who hasn't practiced for at least a few hours or days before recording. Close enough though. Good progress.

                                      [–]LORD_OF_THE_FUPA 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                      Synthesia is a really great learning tool, after a few minutes you can pick it up like you see in the video.

                                      Not saying this guy isn't talented cause I think he is.

                                      [–]idontevenarse2 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Synthesia is incredibly easy to mimic. I doubt he knew what the hell he was doing at that point other than copying what he saw.

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                                        [–]fouxfighter 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                        Exactly what I was thinking. A "complete beginner" would struggle with "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star". I hope OP answers you!

                                        [–]TheSeaOfThySoul 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                        From the looks of it he had something loaded up on his phone, some kind of tutorial, and I think most people would be capable after a good sitdown of looking at something and recreating it - without prerequisite knowledge of "reading music" or "knowing where the notes are". It's as simple as "Watch person hit a key - hit the key they're hitting when they're hitting it".

                                        [–]wibblett 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                        You can tell he knows a handful of songs but if you were to put a sheet of music in front of him he would not be able to read it, let alone play it. I learned how to play the guitar this way. I would look up tabs and follow tutorials online and people think I can play well but in reality I am just mimicking others.

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                                            [–]ZENForce2k 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Beethoven started like you, but with his shirt and only got to tailcoats. I fully expect you to have pant legs the length of a small country by the end of the decade.

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                                              [–]ValhallaShores 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                              Actually, you'll want to work yourself up from underwear to full pants as you progress, followed by regressing back to clothing removal by beautiful specimens of the opposite sex as you truly master the instrument.

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                                                [–]vorgriff 430 ポイント431 ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                                Super impressive! As a violinist whose been playing for over half my life...I often lament that I am not 'as good as i think i should be'. Your post showed me that thru more practice everything is possible. Keep at it! Sounding good man.

                                                [–]JordanNexhip[S] 150 ポイント151 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                Put a big smile on my face thank you so much. Violin is a beautiful instrument, best of luck with it :)

                                                [–]glich610 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                Hey a Violinist!! I just picked up a violin 2 weeks ago. I dont have any prior musical experience but Im loving it so far!

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                                                  [–][deleted] 3317 ポイント3318 ポイント  (162子コメント)

                                                  University music teacher here, with a doctorate in performance.

                                                  You're exemplifying exactly what I teach - consistent practice is important, but also recording yourself and honestly examining what you're doing, with an eye towards addressing real problems and bad habits.

                                                  500 hours of practice only gets you this far if you're doing it deliberately, as you are here.

                                                  [–]JordanNexhip[S] 1193 ポイント1194 ポイント  (114子コメント)

                                                  Thank you very much!! I tried to apply the same strategies which helped me learn other skills. I guess you could say I'm learning how to learn :P

                                                  [–]Masrah 358 ポイント359 ポイント  (68子コメント)

                                                  Can you elaborate what strategies helped you learn what?

                                                  [–]JordanNexhip[S] 749 ポイント750 ポイント  (65子コメント)

                                                  Main one is to go back and analyse what went wrong. It's something I do with chess, I go back on my games and find what went wrong, what I could do better etc. In this case, I recorded myself to fix mistakes I was making.

                                                  [–]Mnwhlp6 483 ポイント484 ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                                  You possess one of the rarest traits .. the ability to self-critique honestly. You're not too bad on the ivories either ; )

                                                  [–]testiclelice 445 ポイント446 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                  Its a goddamn super power.

                                                  "The trouble with most of us is that we would rather be ruined by praise than saved by criticism."

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                                                    [–]thrav 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                    You should read The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin, if you haven't already.

                                                    [–]kosumoth 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                    Sorry, but could you elaborate even a bit more? How did you choose what pieces to play? Where did you learn the knowledge to see what you were doing wrong and how to fix it?

                                                    [–]MadnessBunny 80 ポイント81 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                    I'm sure this applies in chess and other things, but in Dota2 (a videogame) what I do is go over my replays and think "why did I die here?" "How could i be more efficient this time around?" And stuff like that. Just by going over your mistakes you start to see where and how did u go wrong.

                                                    [–]mad0314 166 ポイント167 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                    Conclusion: it was my teammates' fault, they are the ones holding me back from my true MMR

                                                    [–]XteekayX 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    Interestingly enough...I'm a professional piano player who also plays DotA (4.8k hours). Quite often I compare learning DotA to learning an instrument. Considering I'm 30 and took lessons from the age of 6-22'ish.....a lot of what I learned in piano lessons I applied to learning DotA. I don't have the desire to climb MMR, but at 2.9-3.1, I'm still able to play mid for my 4k-5k friends because of the way I learned and practiced the game, which was directly effected by the time spent learning music.

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                                                      [–]brace4impact93 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      It sounds like OP was taking lessons, so his teacher probably helped him choose pieces and learn techniques and things.

                                                      I play trumpet, and my professor used to always force us to listen to recordings of our performances. It's always rough because you're usually your own worst critic, but there are things you hear in a recording (tone, pitch, missed notes are big things in trumpet, doesn't really apply to piano though lol) that you don't hear when you're actually playing.

                                                      [–]Lima__Fox 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      Several of the songs in the video are arrangements of anime songs. Most classical piano classes wouldn't have you learning that type of thing. I'd guess he's taking formal classes and learning songs that interest him in his own informal practice time.

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                                                            [–]PabloEscobarsToe 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                                            And how exactly do you learn? Can you elaborate here?

                                                            [–]BillW87 276 ポイント277 ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                            Not OP, but "learning to learn effectively" is something I've put a lot of work into as well. A few keys:

                                                            1) Build a strong foundation. Seek out resources or teachers to help you make sure that your grasp of the basics in a new skill is secure before you move onto more advanced levels.

                                                            2) Set aside regular, structured time to practice. Practicing needs to be a part of your daily lifestyle, not something you do "whenever".

                                                            3) Imitate those who are better than you. Seek out video/audio/writings/etc by those who are ahead of you in whatever skill you're trying to acquire and monkey what they do. Focus on the details, don't just get it close...get it identical.

                                                            4) Be your own harshest critic. Tape or record yourself and watch it back with a critical eye. Identify mistakes and practice them out.

                                                            5) Get involved in the community for whatever skill you're learning. There are probably lots of resources out there that you're not aware of, so networking with others involved in the same skill will broaden your awareness of and your access to new learning resources.

                                                            -Edit-

                                                            6) Don't get hung up on the idea of "skill". Sure, some people pick things up a little faster than others, but chances are if someone is progressing dramatically faster than you it's because they're working harder behind closed doors. It's easy to see something as "talent", when what you're really seeing is "discipline". The best version of yourself might not be as good at a particular skill as the best version of someone else is, but both of those people are better at it than the version of yourself who never tried hard.

                                                            [–]JordanNexhip[S] 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                            This is an amazing comment, I need to print this and hang it on my wall

                                                            [–]acift 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                            So, you're telling me I have to try trying? Sounds hard.

                                                            [–]QuietDownAlready 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            I've been trying to learn Mandarin. You just gave me my gameplan to move from beginner-high to intermediate. Thanks!

                                                            [–]ScepticTanker 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                            Good god I just started a job after college and my entire education feels useless right now. I feel like all the time spent in school and college was a waste; I know nothing.

                                                             

                                                            Just need to find some good basic writing resources and move on from there. Saving this comment. <3

                                                            [–]DopeMeme_Deficiency 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                            This. This this this this this.... Whenever I've taken something seriously, I get serious about learning it. At every step we must self assess and self correct. Like you said, be your own harshest critic.

                                                            People don't see the effort, self critique, and endless practice that goes ibto mastery of a skill, all they see is progression over the course of a year, and say I'm an idiot savant. Progression from there gets chalked up to my "natural ability". Discipline makes us skilled. Discipline makes us strong

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                                                              [–]Kalsifur 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              Self-analysis I would assume. You have to get feedback from knowledgeable people or yourself.

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                                                                  [–]kateball 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  Professional musician here. This is it. Keep at it.

                                                                  Kind of like a video game. You suck at first. You're slow to aim properly. Things are confusing...

                                                                  But you work on it and work on it and suddenly one day that confusing world makes every bit of sense and you can nail it.

                                                                  [–]TheAtomicOption3 85 ポイント86 ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                                  can confirm I have waaaaay more than 500 hours of practice, but spread out over ~25 years and I'm not this good.

                                                                  [–]gettingweirdwithit 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  playng an instrument involve lots of musscle memory so part of improving is to build upon that muscle memory. if you stop practicing for long periods of time you need to re-learn muscle memory wasting hours of practice.

                                                                  [–]aether10 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                  I started from absolutely nowhere music knowledge wise. Been playing around two years and honestly, it took me a few months before I could even play with both hands. For him to do that on day 1 was a bit demoralising :S

                                                                  I'm still not super fluid and reading sheet music is very effortful, I've been waiting for that point where it all comes a bit more naturally but I don't think it's ever going to happen.

                                                                  [–]TheAtomicOption3 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  judging from the instrument cases in the other shots, this wasn't really his first first day.

                                                                  [–]aether10 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  Yeah, I had that vibe on a cognitive level. Emotionally I just want to be good already, lol.

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                                                                      [–]WearyWay 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                      I had a football coach once that said, "It's not 'practice makes perfect', it's 'perfect practice makes perfect'." If you're practicing wrong you are not helping yourself.

                                                                      [–]gettingweirdwithit 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      True, I played cello as a kid (during the 80s) , I rarely recorded myself, it would 've made a world of a difference if I did.

                                                                      [–]Reversible91 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Professional pianist here, came the say this.

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                                                                        [–]tallbald 267 ポイント268 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                        I'm 58 and have been taking piano lessons for about two years. I had played trumpet for over 45 years. I am really struggling with the piano but I'm not going to give up.

                                                                        [–]beeholders 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                        Congratulations on picking up another instrument, I believe any age is the right age if you want to learn something new. I am currently in my thirties, and I want to learn how to play the piano too (starting now) so I have something fun to do once I retire. I believe music stays until the very end. All the best to you!

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                                                                          [–]JordanNexhip[S] 1591 ポイント1592 ポイント  (159子コメント)

                                                                          I'm really anxious about releasing this. I hope people find value in a video like this and I inspire at least one person like I was inspired.

                                                                          EDIT: I'm getting a lot of questions so I will be answering frequent questions in a future youtube video, you can subscribe to me if you wish to watch it. :) Also THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH <3

                                                                          [–]Solkre 408 ポイント409 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                          You did good kid, real good.

                                                                          [–]poboyroy 90 ポイント91 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                          I bought a keyboard last winter with the intention to learn, but my schedule and a lack of motivation have set me back from my desire to practice consistently. I just wanted to reach out and tell you this video has really inspired me to get back at it and try to develop a consistent practice. Keep up the good work!

                                                                          [–]gwar007 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                          Bought mine in December. Have maybe spent 10 hours on it total. I'm definitely going straight home after work and picking it back up.

                                                                          [–]nah_you_good 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                          Almost the same story here. What's your plan for getting started? I've always had trouble starting new projects where there wasn't a clear and best path forward.

                                                                          [–]gwar007 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          Any worthwhile project won't have the clearest scope, right? If it were easy, everyone would be doing it. The cool thing about this project of learning how to play the piano is that I'm doing it for me. Not for anyone else. I want to be able to do it. That lessens how much I spend thinking about "where I want to be" as opposed to just playing and having fun. Enjoying the sounds and tunes I manage to (accidentally) play.

                                                                          Specifically..... YOUTUBE! That's where I spent my first few weeks on my keyboard. An hour here and there learning how to play a popular pop song on beginner (hundreds of videos like this). Maybe this go-'round I might actually start with learning the keys and how to read music.... maybe. .. Idk! Having fun with it is I guess my ultimate goal and I don't have a set path to get there.

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                                                                                [–]The8bitplaya 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                Inspiring! This was the first get motivated post that motivated me. Well done!

                                                                                [–]GasStationGary 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                I am so glad you decided to post this. I have had a keyboard since my late teens and never got around to learning how to play it. I am a complete musical novice and have recently wanted to learn how to play it. I have been so frustrated because it seems like a monumental task. This is very inspiring to me and really gives me hope that with enough practice I can learn to play something.

                                                                                [–]JordanNexhip[S] 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                It is the most difficult at the beginning in my opinion, if you can get past there, then the process of learning becomes a lot more enjoyable. Thats how it was for me anyway :P

                                                                                [–]deplume 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                did you know how to read music before you started?

                                                                                [–]StarBarf 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                Near the beginning when you say "it didn't go well" what do you mean? As someone who has zero experience with a piano I was impressed. If I were a teacher I would be proud of your progress.

                                                                                [–]JordanNexhip[S] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                It was my first time performing, I played pretty poorly. I guess I was just dissatisfied how I could play it at home well, but when it came to performing it turned to crap. :P

                                                                                [–]Kalsifur 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                He missed some keys but played through it.

                                                                                [–]Kenneth-Boneless 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                What did you do to learn?

                                                                                [–]JordanNexhip[S] 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                I'll be answering this in a future youtube video, because a lot of people are wondering the same thing :)

                                                                                [–]Mattman425 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                Can you read music?

                                                                                [–]mistakilgor 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                Ironically I have been looking in buying a cheap keyboard because ai have been wanting to learn how to play. Did you take lessons or teach yourself by youtube etc?

                                                                                Also great video.

                                                                                [–]JordanNexhip[S] 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                If you are looking for a new keyboard I recommend getting one with 88-weighted keys, so it feels like a real piano.

                                                                                I taught myself by youtube. Thanks for your compliment :)

                                                                                [–]CaptBaker 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Do you have some youtube videos that were key in helping you learn?

                                                                                Finger and hand movements, sheet music reading etc

                                                                                [–]redditforgotaboutme 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Please share the YouTube channels you learned from. I see this is asked a lot on here and on your video.

                                                                                [–]Sonder_is1 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                What channels helped you the most in the beginning?

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                                                                                    [–]WholesomeDM 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                    How did you learn? Did you have lessons or did you find material to use? If you didn't have lessons how did you pick up on your own bad habits?

                                                                                    My brother wants to learn the piano but isn't keen on lessons, so if you did it all yourself I would be very interested to hear your methodology!

                                                                                    [–]Cable_Junkie 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                    I'm actually weeping a bit here mate. Well done on coming so far! Makes me want to pick up a keyboard and have a play.

                                                                                    If you ever start doing live performances watch out for me, I'll be the drunk guy shouting "do One Punch Man!" between every song.

                                                                                    [–]Joan_Red 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Absolute wizardry, awesome dedication - well done.

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                                                                                      [–]RamonFrunkis 231 ポイント232 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                      This is awesome and the kind of content I like to see here. Not an image macro of a misattributed, misspelled quote about "rise and shine and start the grind".

                                                                                      I want to get back into guitar and teach myself the sax but there's 982759 reasons not to do something, particularly in NYC with lack of free rehearsal spaces.

                                                                                      [–]Radcaster 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                      There is no legit reason to not get back into guitar or learn sax, other than "I don't want to". There may be obstacles, sure, but those are not reasons to not do it.

                                                                                      I believe in you.

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                                                                                        [–]notsowise23 366 ポイント367 ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                                                        Only 9,500 hours to go until mastery.

                                                                                        [–]Sev501st 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                        So many anime ost! I recognize all of them from osu!

                                                                                        Great work by the way man. Does inspire me to do more and learn how to play an instrument!

                                                                                        [–]Neqsis 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                        So many anime ost!

                                                                                        okay so i'm not crazy. i was like, "i swear to god those are anime songs ... but there's also classical songs so I may just be losing my mind".

                                                                                        [–]THE_BOSS_man1[🍰] 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        Unravel, The Hero, Sparkle, yeah, you're not crazy, it is sometimes hard to tell with the instrument change though.

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                                                                                            [–]NoNeed2RGue 90 ポイント91 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                            This is so much more inspiring than a cheesy quote with a sunset background.

                                                                                            Awesome progress dude.

                                                                                            [–]JordanNexhip[S] 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                            Thank you very much, I'm glad you found it inspiring :D

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                                                                                              [–]asd12o3in 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                                                                              great work!!! you made me feel like going back to the keyboard again!

                                                                                              do you practise purely based on sheet music?

                                                                                              [–]JordanNexhip[S] 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (31子コメント)

                                                                                              Thank you!! I don't always use sheet music. I first started with synthesia so I could get some practical experience first, I then switched to sheet music and learning by ear as I progressed :) It would be awesome if this inspired you to play keyboard again

                                                                                              [–]InspiringCalmness 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (28子コメント)

                                                                                              did you know how to read sheet music before you started this journey?

                                                                                              [–]karnata 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                                                              He says in another comment that he plays guitar.

                                                                                              [–]Chrisfand 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                                              That makes his 500 hours a little misleading then...

                                                                                              [–]goonshest 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                              Within the first like 20 or 30 seconds it was pretty apparent he had more musical background. I'm pretty sure that after 50-60 hours on a keyboard I would still be extreme ass compared to this dude

                                                                                              [–]albinobluesheep 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                              yeah, you can see the huge chord poster above him. He has a strong music theory back ground

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                                                                                                  [–]cancelledonion 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                  This

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                                                                                                      [–]MurphyLlama 65 ポイント66 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                                                                                      I've thought about doing this because I'd love to learn to play the piano. Is they're a keyboard you'd recommend, or should I just buy a cheapo and get started? Edit: I appreciate all the helpful responses! I'll have to save up to get one, but it'll be worth it :)

                                                                                                      [–]JordanNexhip[S] 79 ポイント80 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                                      I don't think you can go wrong with big brands such Yamaha. Ideally you want one with 88-weighted-keys and you should be good to go. The Yamaha P series are a good example of this

                                                                                                      [–]albinobluesheep 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                      weighted keys are such a must. I grew up playing piano. got to College and a friend gave me a unweighted midi keyboard to use in my dorm. I was OK for some composing and recording said compositions, but it was crap for technical practice, luckly there was the music building with practice rooms.

                                                                                                      I had the piano for a few years after, but hated trying to practice with it, so I've really let my technical side slide. recently got an actual upright console style piano and it's 1000x time more satisfying to play on.

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                                                                                                            [–]Mysteroo 142 ポイント143 ポイント  (31子コメント)

                                                                                                            If that was your day 1, I somehow have some doubts that you were a 'complete beginner'. Like- you at least could already note read and see what each note was and all that jazz. 2 months in and you are already far further than I ever got practicing 5 hours a week for a semester

                                                                                                            [–]Ohshhhhmamas 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                            And he's playing with two hands at once! It took me weeks to make my two hands work at the same time.

                                                                                                            [–]JordanNexhip[S] 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                                                                                            I was using synthesia, it's an app that displays the notes visually :)

                                                                                                            [–]Upup112 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                            Even if you see which notes to play, it's not that easy. If you have not tried it before, you have no muscle memory and cannot flawlessly replicate.

                                                                                                            You fucking lying synesthesia hawking whore!

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                                                                                                                [–]takeyourtimenow 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                This was great, well done! Loved hearing the One Punch Man theme!

                                                                                                                [–]ryan_OD_thats_me 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                                Fantastic video and very inspiring!! Did you take lessons at any point? I'm curious how you knew to recognize your bad habits and then correct them

                                                                                                                [–]JordanNexhip[S] 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                                Thank you very much!!! I've had a few odd lessons but never a teacher who I had more than one lesson with. One thing I did to recognise my mistakes was to record myself and it made it really obvious where my problems were regarding things like posture, inconsistencies in songs, velocity, tempo etc

                                                                                                                [–]KercStar 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                It's nice to see you fixed your hand position as well; you were holding your hands strangely in the beginning of the video and you've straightened that out for the most part - a good rule of thumb is that you should be able to put a golf ball under your palm when you're playing, and your hands should not be flat.

                                                                                                                This is very impressive; it took me years to reach this level of expertise.

                                                                                                                [–]dunzweiler 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                Who gave you feedback on your bad habits? How did you learn to recognize them? You seem to have some sort of background in music. What other instruments do you play?

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                                                                                                                  [–]Bogaragaraga 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                                  And I started trying to learn a bit over a year ago and currently, I'm not as good as you were at 2 months.

                                                                                                                  Well, time to give up. /r/getunmotivated

                                                                                                                  [–]RazorRex 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Don't give up. OP is bullshitting everyone. Complex chords with both hands as a first week player with that kind of timing and rhythm? Nope. No way in hell he is a straight beginner.

                                                                                                                  OP has talent, no doubt... But he's obviously spent years with other instruments.

                                                                                                                  [–]Cryovolcanoes 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Yeah... It must be so. One can see that he is not a beginner with piano/notes/instruments. He knows every chord and seem to play by ear. His video make him look like a prodigy.

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                                                                                                                    [–]Jack-Jewell 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                    For 500+ hours you've done really well in my opinion, you still have 2 habits that I've noticed that you need to correct asap before they become bigger problems when you move onto higher grade pieces, most notably is your pedalling, very important to pedal on the down note and not to remove the pedal before you hit the down note. The final is your hand form, I used to have this problem too. It feels very unnatural at the start but your hands need to be far less tense and flat, and more fluid and rounded, your hands should kind of be like an arch when your playing and your fingers shouldn't be parallel to the keys but at a 45-50 degree angle compared to the key :p nice job though.

                                                                                                                    [–]PapaBurgandi 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Expected fire and flames at the end but either way nice job

                                                                                                                    [–]JordanNexhip[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Fire and flames is like the boss level, I'd love to learn it on piano

                                                                                                                    [–]th3n30np3ngu1n 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Loving the splash of Kimi no Na wa in there 💗

                                                                                                                    [–]ShillBot2016 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Came to the comments to see if I was imagining the song from Your Name!

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                                                                                                                      [–]chironomidae8 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                      I have a feeling you weren't a "complete" beginner; you're already playing triads and two handed in your first clip, and there's a guitar in the background. Learning a second instrument isn't nearly as hard as learning your first one. Sure there's tons of technique to learn and all sorts of idiosyncrasies, but things like tempo, music theory, expression, etc all carry over. I would not expect someone who is a literal complete beginner to be nearly that far in 500 hours.

                                                                                                                      [–]hydraink 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                      I was super surprised to Hear one of the Attack On Titan Themes. Great work!

                                                                                                                      [–]JordanNexhip[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                      Thanks!! Yeah I love attack on titan!!! :D

                                                                                                                      [–]kievaughn 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                      dude, if any part got me motivated, it was you getting to one year and playing attack on titan music

                                                                                                                      [–]jspliff17 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                      4chan plays piano

                                                                                                                      but seriously well done man!

                                                                                                                      [–]they_are_out_there 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                                                      Sounds good and you're getting a pretty good handle on finger positioning and how things work, but now would be a good time to consider bringing it full circle by focusing on sheet music and less on improvisation. I know a ton of guys who are awesome players who rely on playing by ear, but they are hugely limited in their range as a result.

                                                                                                                      You're playing the intro to Fur Elise, but reading the sheet music will help you understand the piece in greater depth, and allow you to see where you can make changes for future improvisation. The other advantage is that sheet music allows you greater flexibility in your playing, gives you more material than you could ever play, and instructs you how it was originally written and how it should sound when played.

                                                                                                                      I would also recommend getting some time on a proper piano. Do you belong to a church, have access to a local school, or have a friend with a piano? There are all sorts of places where you can get time with a good piano. Electric keyboards are fine, but when you play a really high quality instrument, that's when it starts to feel instinctive and magical. You can play the lightest melodies or make it sound like thunder is shaking the walls. The feel of properly weighted keys, the break of the action, the resonance of the harp and soundboard, all contribute to the experience. These are all missing from keyboards, and even the high end weighted keyboards can't quite get that feeling right. Playing an electric keyboard is cool, but pounding out a piece on a full sized grand is an amazing experience.

                                                                                                                      You've obviously got buckets of talent and it would be awesome to see you really make the most of it by focusing on the other aspects of the instrument and it's full capabilities. Nice work!

                                                                                                                      • Classical Piano guy for almost 40 years.

                                                                                                                      [–]Garathmir 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                      As someone classically trained and have been playing for around 10-12 years, this is pretty cool watching what kinds of things you've improved on and what kinds of things you need to keep working on!

                                                                                                                      Definitely grab a book on Brahm's 50 exercises and play some Bach, it will teach you to control your hands a little bit better.

                                                                                                                      I was always taught to play accurately before doing anything. I realize this takes the fun out of playing popular pieces like you have but it really does help your technique in the long run.

                                                                                                                      [–]madmanmoo 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                      as an accomplished pianist, this guy did not start from 0. i'm not sure why i care, but this post is bs. thanks all

                                                                                                                      [–]Flangin 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                      I think I spotted music from One Punch Man, Attack on Titan, and even a tiny snippet from Your Lie in April? Haha, awesome choices and a truly inspiring video.

                                                                                                                      [–]Lowgarr 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                      Just happen to be holding your hands perfectly on day 1.

                                                                                                                      [–]DonnerPartyAllNight 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                      Yeah. I believe this guy got better over time, but that "day 1" was bogus. It'd be like someone picking up a guitar and inherently knowing classical finger picking technique.

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                                                                                                                        [–]napjerks20 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                        I took lessons for a year and could never play as well as he does in the first opening 5 seconds. :(

                                                                                                                        [–]smarthvader 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Very loose usage of "complete beginner"

                                                                                                                        [–]code_and_coffee 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Awesome video, truly inspiring! I've always been interested in learning the piano, so I'm curios how did you go about learning to play? Any particular youtube series or online lessons you would recommend to someone looking to learn how to play?

                                                                                                                        [–]randomuser5632 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                        How many hours are you doing a day?

                                                                                                                        [–]Jikanart 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Did you learn theory? And where or how?

                                                                                                                        [–]YouHvinAFkinGiggleM8 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        I started teaching myself about a weak ago, can I ask what methods you used to teach yourself? A book or a website or something?

                                                                                                                        [–]pavpatel11 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Hey man. This is really motivating me to get back to learning and practicing consistently. Thanks for this. Can I ask what your approach was for learning? Did you just learn songs with tabs/chords or actually learn music theory the traditional way? Also, did you have an instructor? If not, what resources did you use for learning?

                                                                                                                        Sorry for the barrage of questions!

                                                                                                                        [–]CriminologyRapz 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Amazing. I'm confused though. From the first video where you were a 'complete beginner', you seemed to know something outside of just pressing keys and making noise. Did you have a teacher? Where did you get the whatever knowledge you did have? And how did you progress exactly? And I mean outside of answers 'kept practicing'....I want to know more ability and knowledge came from, and then how you learned specific pieces. I'm enthralled by this and I've been wanting to learn piano so I'm just curious. Thanks and great job!

                                                                                                                        [–]XDreadedmikeX 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Ugh. I see on steam I have at least 4000 hours with other games combined. Imagine if I put that much towards a skill. But fuck that

                                                                                                                        [–]Hearthstone4LyfeBro 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Yeah, sorry, I'm a piano teacher and played piano all my life, you were not a beginner on day 1

                                                                                                                        [–]whochoosessquirtle 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                        I call bs, you already went in with plenty of music education, can already read music fluently, and have years of playing other instruments. No real beginner would have your set up and such an expensive keyboard.

                                                                                                                        It'd be more convincing if your video showed more than 2.5 seconds of your "beginning".

                                                                                                                        [–]imregrettingthis 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Hey man. As a semi professional musician who is decent at best at playing instruments this is really inspiring. I never really needed to be incredible at any of the instruments I play to write music but this inspires me to just go for it just to do it.

                                                                                                                        [–]MattDamonFace 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                        holy crap! i picked up piano last year with a tutor and loved it, but since i moved 6 months ago i stopped taking lessons and playing :(. did you have any instruction? or did you learn all on your own with synthesia and practice??

                                                                                                                        [–]JordanNexhip[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                        I have had next to no formal instruction. I started with synthesia to build practical ability, then moved to sheet music and playing by ear :)

                                                                                                                        [–]noelcowardspeaksout 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        You're terrific at bouncy piano. Are you going to make things easier with a steady keyboard at some stage?

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                                                                                                                          [–]Phantom-Gamer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                          Dude this is great!

                                                                                                                          I just started learning the guitar about a month ago so this is really encouraging. You said consistent is key, which I've been trying to do by practicing about an hour day, but I feel it's not enough. Do you have any tips about how long should practices be? Also, I learning songs the best way to learn in your opinion? I'm currently practicing on my own.

                                                                                                                          Thanks for any answers!

                                                                                                                          [–]JordanNexhip[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                          I remember when I first started playing guitar, something that really helped was immersing myself in just learning it. Guitar will take a while to yield results because there's a lot of things to focus on when you first start. If you are practicing consistently and build a good foundation from the beginning, I'm sure your efforts will bear fruit eventually.

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                                                                                                                            [–]bkurzynski0519 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                            I am thoroughly impressed! I remember when I first started playing when I was 16 and thinking to myself "man this is gonna take forever to catch up on learning, It's going to take forever!" And sure enough, 8 years later, I am by no means a pro, but definitely way better than when I was 16. Keep with it, play every day, you won't regret it!

                                                                                                                            [–]vasiliypupkeen 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                            This is how anime affects you kids

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