Hey guys - just a quick meta cuz there seems to be a bit of confusion. Kaneki’s baby WILL be a half-ghoul. Touka is a full ghoul and Kaneki is - genetically - a full human. Rize’s kakuhou changed his PHYSIOLOGY, it’s a non-heritable factor. His DNA remained unchanged and DNA is what passes from parent to offspring. Excluding the VERY unlikely possibility of epigenetics somehow coming from Rize’s blood, Kaneki will pass on human genes and the child will turn out (genetically at least) like Eto. Also if Ishida sticks to being surprisingly intellectual about biology, the child will not be totally normal. When two species produce viable offspring it’s called a Chimera (yes really; look up the “geep”). Chimera generally have shorter life spans and are always infertile. So poor Baby Kaneki aint got a much brighter future ahead of them than their poor dad :/
I think you mixed up something. A mix between two species through sexual reproduction is a hybrid (with most know real world one probably being a mule, that actually shows something called hybrid vigour being stronger and more long living then a male donkey or a mare (female horse) that are it’s parents).
Chimera is when you have two sets of cells with different DNA in the same organism. Naturally it usually happens when two or more zygotes (fertilised eggs) combine into one organism. When you do that artificially between two different species you get organisms like the geep you mentioned above, a goat and a sheep embryo merged into one organism.
So Edo is a hybrid her father being a ghoul and her mother a human. And Ken Kaneki seems to be a chimera to me, having Rizes kakuhou translated into him (since people or animals with transplanted organs are also chimeras having different sets of DNA in their bodies) and since as of yet we don’t really know if there were any genetic changes in his human cells also, as you said above. Yet for some reason he also seems to be shoving hybrid vigour. So I wonder…
I also find it interesting how same as with real life interspecies hybrids there’s a difference in the viability of the offspring depending on which sex of the species’ is the father or the mother. Just look at the example of the mule which is far easier to achieve the a hilly a male horse and a donkey female offspring. And in the same way a ghoul male and a human female child seems to have higher chances of survival, then a female ghoul and human male. Poor Touka…
Ah you’re right my mistake - i meant to say Hybrid. Although generally the same claims apply. “Hybrid vigor” though is more a concept between two breeds of the same species. Like breeding Angus cattle to Hereford cattle. If they’re purebred you get heterozygosity in alleles which leads to the lack of deleterious recessive traits as well as - often - an adoption of predominant traits of both breeds. In this case the maternal disposition of one cattle breed and the productive efficiency of the other. Hybrid vigor isnt often attributed to breeding between species, since more often than not the zygote cant develop from the diversity between the haploid genotypes of the egg and sperm. Interesting addition though with mules/hinnys, as we know the success of most human/ghoul pregnancies was low excluding Eto, so maybe that was a factor, although i believe my professors generally believed that they were just physically harder to achieve due to the characteristics of horses and donkeys; donkeys being more stubborn/aggressive in general and fighting off a male horse, whereas a male donkey could use that stubbornness to breed successfully
That’s true. Interspecies hybrids are rarely viable, but I think that doesn’t really exclude hybrid vigour, whit those that do survive.I mean you have interspecies cross-breeds like ligers, that are huge, which is obviously h. vigour, but are also short lived and prone to diseases which makes them economically uninteresting. Too few and expensive to breed and keep to make big money.
I kinda agree on the stubbornness part, but isn’t that more connected with the occurrence of hybrids in the wild? Since the donkey female can be restrained to not hurt the stallion and also while cruder methods of restriction are considered unethical today it wasn’t so in the past.
And I’d say it’s genetic too, since also within the offspring there are difference, considering some female mules seem to be fertile while males are always infertile. But I never really looked up the details so I’m shakey on science here, but I think it’s conected to the shape and number of chromosomes, same as with interspecies compatibility?
Also I think
it was mentioned before
that the main problem with female ghouls is that the their bodies perceive the half human embryo as food and absorb it? I wonder if Touka can manage a wonder with just a change of diet. Though human food does seem to weaken her ghoul abilities so perhaps that could help the child.
Hey guys - just a quick meta cuz there seems to be a bit of confusion. Kaneki’s baby WILL be a half-ghoul. Touka is a full ghoul and Kaneki is - genetically - a full human. Rize’s kakuhou changed his PHYSIOLOGY, it’s a non-heritable factor. His DNA remained unchanged and DNA is what passes from parent to offspring. Excluding the VERY unlikely possibility of epigenetics somehow coming from Rize’s blood, Kaneki will pass on human genes and the child will turn out (genetically at least) like Eto. Also if Ishida sticks to being surprisingly intellectual about biology, the child will not be totally normal. When two species produce viable offspring it’s called a Chimera (yes really; look up the “geep”). Chimera generally have shorter life spans and are always infertile. So poor Baby Kaneki aint got a much brighter future ahead of them than their poor dad :/
I think you mixed up something. A mix between two species through sexual reproduction is a hybrid (with most know real world one probably being a mule, that actually shows something called hybrid vigour being stronger and more long living then a male donkey or a mare (female horse) that are it’s parents).
Chimera is when you have two sets of cells with different DNA in the same organism. Naturally it usually happens when two or more zygotes (fertilised eggs) combine into one organism. When you do that artificially between two different species you get organisms like the geep you mentioned above, a goat and a sheep embryo merged into one organism.
So Edo is a hybrid her father being a ghoul and her mother a human. And Ken Kaneki seems to be a chimera to me, having Rizes kakuhou translated into him (since people or animals with transplanted organs are also chimeras having different sets of DNA in their bodies) and since as of yet we don’t really know if there were any genetic changes in his human cells also, as you said above. Yet for some reason he also seems to be shoving hybrid vigour. So I wonder…
I also find it interesting how same as with real life interspecies hybrids there’s a difference in the viability of the offspring depending on which sex of the species’ is the father or the mother. Just look at the example of the mule which is far easier to achieve the a hilly a male horse and a donkey female offspring. And in the same way a ghoul male and a human female child seems to have higher chances of survival, then a female ghoul and human male. Poor Touka…
Also hybrids can actually be fertile. It all depend how big the genetic gap between the species is. A dog wolf hybrid being fertile, mules only females and even that rarely and hybrids like ligers are infertile. Same with interspecies hymeras. They hypothetically can have offspring it just has to be with the species with the same DNA their reproductive organs are off. And off course it’s not going to be a chimera.
One of the most bizarrely cool people I’ve ever met was an oral surgeon who treated me after a ridiculous accident (that’s another story), Dr. Z.
Dr. Z. was, easily, the best and most competent doctor or dentist I’ve ever encountered – and after that accident, I encountered quite a number. He came stunningly highly recommended, had an excellent record, and the most calming bedside manner I’ve ever seen.
That last wasn’t the sweet gentle caretaking sort of manner, which some nurses have but you wouldn’t expect to see in a surgeon. No; when Dr. Z. told me that one of my broken molars was too badly damaged to save, and I (being seventeen and still moderately in shock) broke down crying, he stared at me incredulously and said, in a tone of utter bemusement, “But – I am very good.”
I stopped crying on the spot. In the last twenty-four hours or so of one doctor after another, no one had said anything that reassuring to me. He clearly just knew his own competence so well that the idea of someone being scared anyway was literally incomprehensible to him. What more could I possibly ask for?
(He was right. The procedure was very extended, because the tooth that needed to be removed was in bits, but there was zero pain at any point. And, as he promised, my teeth were so close together that they shifted to fill the gap to where there genuinely is none anymore, it’s just a little easier to floss on that side.)
But Dr. Z.’s insane competence wasn’t just limited to oral surgery.
When I met Dr. Z., he, like most doctors I’ve had, asked me if I was in college, and where, and what I was studying. When I say “math,” most doctors respond with “oh, wow, good for you” or possibly “what do you want to do with that after college?”
Dr. Z. wanted to know what kind of math.
I gave him the thirty-second layman’s summary that I give people who are foolish enough to ask that. He responded with “oh, you mean–” and the correct technical terms. I confirmed that was indeed what I meant (and keep in mind, this was upper-division college math, you don’t take this unless you’re a math major). He asked cogent follow-up questions, and there ensued ten or so minutes of what I’d call “small talk” except for how it was an intensely technical mathematical discussion.
He didn’t, as far as I can tell, have any kind of formal math background. He just … knew stuff.
I was a competitive fencer at this point in time, so when he asked if I had any questions about the surgery that would be necessary, I asked him if I’d be okay to fence while I had my jaw wired shut, or if it would interfere with breathing.
“Fencing?” he said.
“Yes,” I said, “like swordfighting,” because this is another conversation I got to have a lot. (People assume they’ve misheard you, or occasionally they think you mean building fences.)
“Which weapon?”
“Uh. Foil.”
“No, it won’t be safe,” and he went off into an explanation of why.
Turns out, he was also a serious fencer – and, when I mentioned my fencing coach, an old friend of his. (I asked my fencing coach later, and, oh yes, Dr. Z., a good friend of mine, excellent fencer.) (My coach was French. Dr. Z. was Israeli. I never saw Dr. Z. around the club or anything. I have no idea how they knew each other.)
So this was weird enough that later, when I was home, I looked Dr. Z. up on Yelp. His reviews were stellar, of course, but that wasn’t the weird thing.
The weird thing was that the reviews were full of people – professionals in lots of different fields – saying the same thing: I went to Dr. Z. for oral surgery, and he asked me about what I did, and it turned out he knew all about my field and had a competent and educated discussion with me about the obscure technical details of such-and-such.
All sorts of different fields, saying this. Lawyers. Businessmen. Musicians.
As far as I can tell, it’s not that I just happened to be pursuing the two fields he had a serious amateur interest in – he just seemed to be extremely good at literally everything.
I have no explanation for this. Possibly he sold his soul to the devil.
Vet clinics often have litters of kittens to raise. Either they’re too young for a shelter, too sickly, or the clinic intends to adopt them out when they’re big enough. Whatever the reason, nurses often end up raising kittens and giving them ‘temporary’ names.
The intention of these temporary names is that if you give the kitten a stupid name, you have something to call it other than ‘the middle black male’, but because it’s a stupid name you wont get emotionally attached and end up keeping it. Again.
Which is how some nurses end up with cats that have names like ‘Flea bus’ and ‘Trash bag’.
this is a pretty good summary of what Amsterdam is like
THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON IN THIS VIDEO WHAT WAS UP WITH THE GUY RUNNING AT THE VERY BEGINNING AND THE ONE CAR HIP-CHECKING THE OTHER INTO A WATERY OBLIVION AND THE SPEEDBOAT AND AAAAAAAAAAAH
And then they destroy the stoop on that building, and just drive off???
hey what if someone invented a machine that allowed women to transfer their pregnancies to men and then the government passed a law that if a woman didn’t want to have a baby the biological father was required to carry it how fast do you think birth control would stop being an issue
BEST NIGHTBLOG POST EVER
“IT’S UNETHICAL TO FORCE PEOPLE TO CARRY A BABY!!!!” MEN SHOUT