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    [–]DisputedDetails 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why do you hang out in this sub? You hate it.

    [–]blahwomanblah 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Advice like this makes me want to keep a scrapbook of shit that I want to teach my nieces and daughters. Yes. So much yes.

    And the female corollary is: beware of females that act helpless and need a man to save her.

    [–]MyogiNightKidsnow taking applications to join my girl gang 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That scrapbook thing is actually a pretty cool idea.

    [–]BluthiIndustries 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Except maybe if they're working for the Innocence Project.

    [–]zodberg 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "I don't see why you men are so obsessed with my innocence, it's just an abstract quality you're drawn to because it makes me less intimidating and you have fetishistic draw to vulnerability."

    But the assembled lawyers and judge at my misdemeanor trial continued to gaslight my concerns and tried to find out how innocent I wasn't.

    Just because I was a woman who broke several laws, while men who don't break laws never receive this kind of negative attention.

    [–]katniqpONE LIP TAR TO BRING THEM ALL AND IN THE DARKNESS BIND THEM 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    If you google the actual definition of innocent, half of the expanded definitions are something like, simple, naive, free from moral corruption, harmless, without knowledge of.

    Which sounds pretty fucking boring to me.

    [–]ChocoHorrorChocolate required for summoning ritual 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Your flair is the best. That is all I had to say.

    [–]kiwi_butt 65 ポイント66 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I haven't met a single guy who didn't tell me in a sexual way that I come across as "innocent". I'm asian, petite, shy and young-looking but also into kinky stuff. Men are crazy about the fantasy of the girl who comes across as "innocent" and "pure" (barf) to others but will do "dirty" things just with them. The obsession with child-like attributes grosses me out too but as I said, I haven't met a single guy who was not into it. :/

    [–]EnglishQueenis as subtle as a shotgun 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yeah same with me too. I work in Early childhood education and am kinky too. Guys go wild when they see demure me and learn how "dirty" I can be. It really ia sad, gross, and disheartening to know you are fetishized. I just want someone to like me for me :/

    [–]AmeradianToday I choose me. 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I just realized that this is activity encouraged in religious communities. Women are supposed to dress very conservatively to prove that they are humble (read: submissive), then once they are married, they are supposed to be a sexy tigress in the bedroom to prevent their husbands from being unfaithful.

    [–]qwertypolkSelf-hating feminazi 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    There's this girl I've known since college. She tends to dress fairly demurely, so when she wore a sexy black dress to a concert a few months ago I was surprised. She got so many compliments, but a few days later when we were hanging out she told me that her boyfriend didn't like it. Apparently he doesn't like her looking sexy and prefers her to look demure and innocent. I was like "you're a 27 year old woman, you can look however the hell you like." but she's decided she won't wear the dress again. Sad times.

    [–]SoloSeal 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If I could have any super power it would be to be able to split up any couple at will.

    [–]littlejawn 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    All I can think of:

    IN NO CENCE

    [–]kruemelmonstah 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    My bf sometimes jokes that he's glad I'm insecure and don't know how pretty I am or else I'd leave him for something "better"... shame that a lot of men actually do prey on a girl's insecurities. The only time I'm "innocent" is when I'm roleplaying in the bedroom, it's just one of my kinks. shrugs

    [–]great-god-om 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Stay away from women like this too. My ex was like this, so it's not always a sexism thing (though its roots for many are in sexism). It's a real red fuckin flag when someone says they are less attracted to you since you became more confident.

    [–]AskMrScience 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "You don't know you're beautiful. That's what makes you beautiful!"

    One Direction can fuck right off with their "women with low self esteem are hotter" song.

    [–]MaladjustedSinner 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Isn't it? Women aren't immune to sexism and internalized misogyny is a very well known phenomenon.

    Lesbians apparently sometimes try and emulate the thought process and actions of what they see straight man do, that's how they were taught to sexually and romantically interact with women by society, by culture. They probably either see themselves as "different from the other giiiiiirls" or hate themselves enough to take it out on other women.

    [–]DieKatzenKoenigin 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If I could turn back time and warn my younger self...:/

    [–]StCory 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Also stay away from the ones obsessed with the convicted ones aswell.

    [–]somecallmenonny 160 ポイント161 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    So here's my philosophy on my partner's sexual history:

    If I have more experience than them: Cool! I get to teach them stuff! This'll be fun.

    If they have more experience than me: Cool! I might learn some stuff! This'll be fun.

    If we have about the same amount of experience: Cool! No pressure! This'll be fun.

    [–]The_Mighty_Jericha 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    My current partner has only been with one other woman one time, so if you don't count awkward losing your virginity sex, I'm basically his first real sexual partner. Teaching him everything I like is super fun. He is very dedicated to getting me off too, which is a HUGE bonus and one of the reasons I really enjoy being with him. It doesn't matter that he has had far fewer partners than me. I don't idolize him for his naivety or innocence. We just like having fun together. And he is not judgmental at all towards me even though I have been with more people. He likes me and doesn't care, more fun for him because I have picked up some skills.

    My ideology is exactly the same. As long as we are into pleasing each other and willing to learn what the other likes (and assuming you've used protection and are regularly tested if you've had many partners), who cares how many partners you have.

    [–]somecallmenonny 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Exactly! The only reason to worry about your partner's sexual history is for STDs. And of course you get to look out for your health first and foremost. Protection and regular testing do the trick. No reason to involve shame, too.

    [–]greenhearted 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fun is what is key!

    I have only benefitted from my bf's sexual experience. It took a while for him to accumulate the skills he uses to give me the most pleasure I've ever experienced in my own life. Why would I look upon that negatively?

    We've never had the "number of previous partners" conversation bc who cares? We're together now, that's all that matters at the moment.

    edit: a letter

    [–]Endless_Search 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Emphasis on fun!

    [–]NheeaI put the "fun" in dysfunctional. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Funtastic!

    [–]FunLovingMurderhobo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Surely you mean fucktastic :p

    [–]NheeaI put the "fun" in dysfunctional. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Omg fuck yeaaaaaah!

    [–]penguin_waddleSerial killer documentaries and chill? 229 ポイント230 ポイント  (16子コメント)

    A huge red flag for me are the ones with the Madonna Whore complex.

    [–]pamplemoussmy favorite little jewy this side of st. louis 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I feel like that's less a red flag and more something hidden that red flags (like an obsession with innocence) might be signaling.

    [–]SugarTits1strong independent troll who don't need no bridge 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh, I see you've met my ex.

    [–]crazymcfattypants 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (13子コメント)

    Ohhh, what's the Madonna Whore complex?

    I am ready to be educated and probably sickened.

    [–]cyanpineapple 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The Wikipedia article is fascinating

    [–]MooncinderI tried to catch fog the other day. Mist. 95 ポイント96 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Wikipedia has an article if you want to go in-depth but it's basically where men are only capable of seeing women as one extreme or the other.

    [–]WikiTextBot 99 ポイント100 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Madonna–whore complex

    In psychoanalytic literature, a Madonna–whore complex is the inability to maintain sexual arousal within a committed, loving relationship. First identified by Sigmund Freud, under the rubric of psychic impotence, this psychological complex is said to develop in men who see women as either saintly Madonnas or debased prostitutes. Men with this complex desire a sexual partner who has been degraded (the whore) while they cannot desire the respected partner (the Madonna). Freud wrote: "Where such men love they have no desire and where they desire they cannot love." Clinical psychologist Uwe Hartmann, writing in 2009, stated that the complex "is still highly prevalent in today's patients".


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    [–]Queen_of_RepostsThe babe with the power 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Ah, I guess I've misunderstood it then. I thought it was a Nice Guy TM thing. When they think all women are sluts except for the one they want as a girlfriend, she is the most pure thing while all others deserve no respect at all. And when it turns out that she don't want them, then she was a whore all along, in disguise.

    [–]nightrideis probably worrying about climate change (◡‿◡✿) 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No that's just a misogynist.

    [–]D_Andreams 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think those related outlooks - two points on the same spectrum maybe. I would probably still call that the M/W Complex in a more general sense if not in a medical/psychological sense.

    [–]suckzbuttz69420bro 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Like Charlotte's first husband in Sex and the City.

    [–]CorvidaeSFJam out with your clam out. 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thank you, WikiTextBot!

    [–]MaladjustedSinner 128 ポイント129 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    You'll recognize it immediatly as what many people/men tend to support or think, even at a subconscious level.

    They see women either as Madonna (pure mother figure) or a whore, basically. There is no inbetween and all women have to fit into those categories, as you might imagine most of us would go on the whore side.

    [–]Fartsandfarts 348 ポイント349 ポイント  (73子コメント)

    I read an article recently about how pedophilia is like, "en vogue"... men/the media are constantly fantasizing about youth from "barely legal" to "any hair is gross!" to "I like innocent girls". The more I thought about it the more totally grossed out I got.

    [–]IndieLady 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I was a teen in the early 90s and not exposed to porn aside from Playboy or that kind of very soft erotica.

    My first boyfriend had slept with one girl before me. Not to be critical of other women but told me how his previous sex partner had no pubic hair. And I was like "whaaa...?" because it seemed so childlike. Like who would want to fuck a child?

    To me and my boyfriend at the time, pubic hair was womanly and sexy. It's weird how normal female pubic hair has not only become unfashionable, but actually repugnant.

    [–]ChkYrHeadConnoisseur of Labia Confetti 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    It's not repugnant to me, but in my experience, women with a full bush tend to smell a bit more musky (not in a good way) and when I'm going down on them, it's not fun having to navigate the hair and getting it in your mouth. Obviously, women can groom how they wish, but I do have a preference for at least trimmed genitals (and yes, I trim/shave mine) and it has zero to do with them looking like children.

    [–]DisputedDetails 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Do you shave your armpits as well then? Hairy armpits are definitely musky lol

    [–]ChkYrHeadConnoisseur of Labia Confetti 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I trim them, actually. Yes. But my dates also aren't licking my pits. Sooo...there's that.

    [–]DisputedDetails 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I wasn't having a go, just wondering - if you're averse to the smell then pits on yourself might be worse than a bush on others!

    I bet someone has that fetish though. Best be prepared.

    [–]suckzbuttz69420bro 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It's weird how normal female pubic hair has not only become unfashionable, but actually repugnant.

    I feel like this attitude is changing. More and more people are being less dickish about how people groom their pubes.

    [–]Fartsandfarts 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Really? God i hope so, no one I've met/ been intimate with in the last 10 years has seemed to feel that way :(

    [–]Jill4ChrisRedInternally Wednesday Addams 213 ポイント214 ポイント  (40子コメント)

    I live in the UK and see this on the front page of Daily Mail all the time (or in my grandmas house). "PEDO ARRESTED SCUM OF THE EARTH!!!" 2 pages later, pictures of 14 year old Celebrities/Celebrities daughters "Looking all grown up in their swim suit! Not leaving much to the imagination! Acting beyond their years" is usually code word for "Look at these sexy 14 year olds."

    [–]shut-up-dana 81 ポイント82 ポイント  (32子コメント)

    It's barely even code for "look at these sexy 14 year olds". Wasn't the Mail the one that had a jailbait countdown running ahead of Emma Watson's 16th birthday? Mingers.

    [–]Maggiemayday 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (30子コメント)

    Now I must go google "mingers". Whoot, new vocabulary.

    edit: Is it pronounced ming or minj?

    [–]srhlzbth731Fishermen are reel men. 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Watch the Inbetweeners and the world of crude British slang will open up to you

    [–]simonjp 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    ming-ers. Sometimes ming-gers.

    [–]Maggiemayday 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    So like fingers or lingers, or possibly singers? Got it.

    [–]shut-up-dana 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Mingers like singers, not quite like fingers/lingers (which has a more pronounced 'G' I think?).

    [–]simonjp 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Yes - although as you've probably seen, this isn't exactly where I would use it myself. It usually means an ugly person, usually a woman. So not a great word in honesty. Although so fun to say

    [–]Maggiemayday 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I understand. I love the word "twat", and it is simply unacceptable these days. It was always unacceptable, but the reasons have changed.

    Fuck, I'm old.

    [–]steerpike88 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (21子コメント)

    Ming... Minge (Minj) is your fanny

    [–]baardvarkLipstick-stained burrito 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (19子コメント)

    Wait, fanny has a British meaning too

    [–]draw_it_nowCome join us at /r/TrollBi 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (17子コメント)

    Intro to Britspeak:

    Minge = fanny

    fanny = cunt

    cunt = dickhead

    [–]alyraptorderby af 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (15子コメント)

    Fanny pack takes on a whole new meaning.

    [–]draw_it_nowCome join us at /r/TrollBi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (14子コメント)

    We call them bumbags

    Also:

    Jello = jelly

    Jelly = jam

    Jam = conserve

    [–]alyraptorderby af 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (13子コメント)

    Hah! Whatever you say chap. Next you'll be telling me you've got different words for cookies and potato chips!

    [–]raziphelshameless plug: visit /r/troll4troll! 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    bellend = dickhead also

    [–]Maggiemayday 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thank you for this vital information.

    [–]Jill4ChrisRedInternally Wednesday Addams 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    YEP.

    [–]MooncinderI tried to catch fog the other day. Mist. 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    That's the Daily Fail for you. My grandparents read it too. :(

    [–]Jill4ChrisRedInternally Wednesday Addams 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I'm lucky my gran only reads it for the cute pictures of peoples kids and dogs they have sometimes, and the cross words. She's (thankfully) smart enough to know tabloid-speak and doesn't believe a lot of what the papers say. But it still annoys me that she buys them :/

    [–]simonjp 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Print out /r/aww for her, it might be enough.

    [–]Jill4ChrisRedInternally Wednesday Addams 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Unfortunately she's computer illiterate :( I do send her cute pictures by post occasionally though, cards and stuff:) I'm getting her crossword puzzles for her birthday and some brain training exercises too, to keep her active.

    [–]simonjp 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yeah, that's why you'll need to print it. Perhaps make a flip-book for the gifs.

    [–]Jill4ChrisRedInternally Wednesday Addams 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's a genuinely awesome idea haha

    [–]Panic_Mechanic 180 ポイント181 ポイント  (22子コメント)

    This seriously grinds my gears. Nasty shit it is. My favourite (negatively speaking) is watching people try to explain away the 'age specific'- phelia. Like no buddy, call it whether you want you just want to fuck and or control very young girls.

    Also Leo DiCaprio being the "envy" of men everywhere for only dating 20 to 24 or so year old models that never last more than a couple of months. It's like dudes, your bro-idol has a ton of baggage he's gotta sort out.

    [–]thedude346 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (21子コメント)

    I don't get why you feel the need to judge Leo, it seemed uncalled for. As long as everyone's cool and consenting, I don't see a problem. Have you considered that maybe he's not looking for anything serious right now? If he was a 35+ year old actress regularly pulling hot young male model beaus, she'd probably be cheered and celebrated on this sub. Just because he's a dude it's considered wrong to casually date young, attractive women?

    [–]Mynamebaby 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    The issue is the age difference and the fact that he's famous and influential. Seems blind of you to leave that out.

    A guy only dating women half his age is likely a) insecure b) immature c) a manipulator or some combination of all of the above. So I don't see anyone on this forum celebrating a woman if she did the same.

    [–]thedude346 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I don't think you're doing the adult women he dates any favors by infantilizing them.

    I'm highly skeptical of the whole age/money/fame differential becoming "dangerous" once both parties are above 18-20+. Seinfeld dating a 17 year old at 40? Skeevy as fuck, sure. A 35 year old and a 24 year old? Who cares?

    Does this mean any celebrity that dates or married a non-celebrity who is younger than them is exploiting them? Or a royal family member doing the same with a "commoner?"

    You think none of these young models see his string of relationships and history and get what's going on, and then go for him anyway, for a number of reasons? It's highly possible they're getting something out of it too and "using" him the same way he "uses" them if we're going to label it that. Hell, I see it as infinitely more likely that these adult women spring for the chance of dating a wealthy, famous, high-profile, and supposedly charismatic actor (and all the perks that come with that) rather than that they are all helpless victims falling under the spell of some master manipulator.

    [–]Mynamebaby -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This isn't about infantilizing women. It's about a middle aged man serially dating women in their early twenties, which makes him an immature douchebro.

    [–]Panic_Mechanic 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I'm not one to believe that a satisfactory life on this earth requires you to have a relationship. So please don't think this comes from a place of needing to see people settle down. It's also never been about people wanting to be with someone they find attractive. Why should it?

    I'm just asking you to understand this within the context of the post. For most of the world and especially our North American culture, innocence = youth, naiveté, submission.

    I chose Leo specifically because I know industry people (you're going to take this with a grain of salt and I understand) who've been around him and his attitudes towards women is exactly the thing were discussing this is post. He's constantly lauded in our society as someone to emulate and envy for his "string of young, beautiful models". Even if you haven't heard the stories, simply by looking at decades of dating habits can say a ton about a person. Especially when they're in their mid-forties and unable or unwilling to have a relationship with anyone over basically half their age.

    But I will concede that maybe I should not have called him out on it and I understand how it can come across. It's also just a personal annoyance having to hear and see about Leo's new conquest for the 20th time in a row and being told how lucky he is to be dating such young women as if it's something to be proud of.

    [–]Ishouldbepolite 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Name one such actress that does that.

    And at age 43 after decades of only short flings and not a couple of partners after a long term relationship.

    It's the difference between not wanting anything serious right now and not being able to have anything serious.

    He's not judged on having consenting relationships, the people who admire him for it are called out for gloryfying the guy's undressed issues.

    Leo can be Leo, but let's at least allow him to be a 3d person instead of being reduced to a cartoon male sexual avatar by the men that want to escape their own lives vicariously through him.

    [–]thedude346 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Name one such actress that does that.

    I recognize it's less common due to societal sexist double standards. But if there were to be a gender-flipped Leo, I'd be just as staunch a defender of her right to conduct a consensual, non-abusive love life without judgment.

    It's the difference between not wanting anything serious right now and not being able to have anything serious.

    I think you're reading into someone's life you don't know anything about. Have you talked to him personally about this? Not everyone wants the same things in life. Some people never want to have children, and some people may never be seeking a traditional-style lifelong, monogamous partner.

    Sure, maybe he had issues that prevent him from having anything more substantial than shallow flings. Or maybe all he's interested in are short flings. Without any insight into his life, all we can do is speculate and judge needlessly.

    [–]sobok 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I feel uncomfortable trying to diagnose someone with mental health problems ("underlying issues") because of their dating/sex life, when they've not been causing harm to anyone.

    It could just be that he likes being single, and having these short flings are fun.

    You don't need to have underlying issues to be a 3d person. Just like strong female characters don't need a rape to be strong.

    [–]absentbird 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I don't know that I would call it a diagnosis as much as an observation. People don't usually flit from relationship to relationship without forming lasting bonds, it strongly correlates with intimacy issues.

    You don't need to have underlying issues to be a 3d person. Just like strong female characters don't need a rape to be strong.

    What the fuck?

    [–]thedude346 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    People don't usually flit from relationship to relationship without forming lasting bonds, it strongly correlates with intimacy issues.

    Serious question: do you have evidence to support this assertion? Or is this just anecdotal stuff?

    When I'm not looking for a serious relationship but still interested in dating around and having sex, I have exactly that type of relationship: a not too involved, usually brief fling. Perhaps this comes across as defensiveness, but I bristle at the suggestion that people conducting their love lives in a manner other than you personally see fit somehow have something wrong with them.

    [–]D_Andreams 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Don't you though?

    If you interpret "underlying issues" to mean "mental illness", then no. But most people have issues. Anyone who grew up a hollywood star is pretty much bound to have some.

    [–]ProbablyNotANewIdea 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I gave you an upvote just because it's a thoughtful response. I'm not sure how I feel one way or another on the topic.

    [–]thedude346 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thanks. Appreciate the opposite of the "downvoted because disagreement" phenomenon :)

    [–]ahchavavaginas and internet friends 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I wish I would have learned this at the age of 10. Would have saved me a lot of heartache.

    [–]WitchJuice 307 ポイント308 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Absolutely no one who is even slightly interested in this as a quality would ever even look in my direction, much less start a conversation with me. I ooze 'been there, done that, got the t-shirt, burned the t-shirt, ran around naked in front of shocked onlookers after burning the t-shirt whilst high on acid'. But yeah, good advice!

    [–]Maggiemayday 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So, the average Wednesday after Burning Man? Nice.

    [–]ElegantShitwadtampon, tampoff 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    solid advice

    [–]woollyhammockAll tea, all shade 187 ポイント188 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Woo-hoo! All my years of jaded cynicism to the rescue!

    It's great to know I'll never have some megadouche drooling over me - I've seen too much shit, and am out of fucks to give.

    [–]tunabuttonsiron sides 748 ポイント749 ポイント  (23子コメント)

    Completely accurate. Anyone who goes on about how they admire "innocence" is really just admitting to you that they're looking for vulnerable/impressionable people.

    [–]raziphelshameless plug: visit /r/troll4troll! 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Experienced women don't tolerate their bullshit, manipulation, or abuse. They can see the red flags for miles.

    [–]noratat 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah innocence is adorable in children, but definitely not what I'm looking for in a partner. Being an adult's already hard enough without having to babysit someone else.

    [–]SayingWhatUrThinkinBeauty is in the eye of the beer holder. 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    the fact that this is the default for 'attractive' to men in this society should really tell you all you need to know about rape culture.

    [–]RagingFuckalot 117 ポイント118 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Or they're looking for the legal version of a child.

    [–]SugarTits1strong independent troll who don't need no bridge 172 ポイント173 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yup. Even if they aren't consciously aware that they like innocence because it implies a certain level of manipulative control over the individual. They're still sub-consciously doing that. Sure, it might seem cute on the surface and the guy might enjoy being able to "swoop in and protect m'lady" but it's still creepy as fuck to date people on that premise.