Passionately Promoting A More Perfect World

Anonymous asked:

Have you considered joining clubs/groups in your area with regular meetings to get more socialisation?

The main problem with this is that, while it would be a plus, it wouldn’t give me the thing I actually need.

Going to things with lots of people is very exciting. It’s a strong short-term happiness boost. But it doesn’t really have any effects outside of that. The hours of my life outside of that experience aren’t meaningfully influenced by having been there.

Relaxed, cosy, one-on-one interactions with people are fulfilling/rejuvenating/restoring. They boost my longer-term quality of life. They raise baseline happiness, even if they’re less exciting on a moment-to-moment basis.

For example, other than freshman year of college (which is what caused me to realise how large my social appetite was), the time I was most socially fulfilled was when I was semi-homeless in London, because I kept being bounced back and forth between friendly British people’s houses. Meanwhile, in the Bay, people wilt if you ask about visiting their home for something other than a party.

So, when I’ve gone to things that were events, I’ve been most interested in finding specific people that I could connect with, so we could hang out later in a setting that would actually be valuable to me.

But that keeps not happening. People I meet at parties or meetups or other ~event~ stuff then later 1) don’t speak to me, 2) can’t meet up again, 3) only want to meet iff it’s at another event, or 4) flake on all intended hangouts.

So that’s been failing pretty badly. This is why I specifically broke my quiz’s question about hanging out into two different questions - whether one likes events and whether one likes one-on-one hangouts, with the latter getting twice as much weight as the former.

I’m confused by the fact that the vast majority of people said they like one-on-one hangouts (and only a little over half like events) when, empirically, the only way I can get people to interact with me is by going to events. Survey responses continue to be uncorrelated with my real life experiences; more news at nine.

(I think some of my most frustrating experiences are having people say to me that they feel like they’re too boring to occupy my time one-on-one, so they only want to meet me if it’s part of an event. And I’m just like “NO STOP WHAT ARE YOU DOING THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF HOW THAT WORKS”.)

((Or when I think I’m meeting someone alone and they’re like “Oh, I heard you like extroverting, so I’m actually at an event with tons of people! Isn’t that great! :D :D :D” 😞😞😞))

I have no trouble getting invited to events constantly, because Facebook. So I don’t think I’m going to run out of the type of socialisation a club might get me, or what Meetup.com might provide. However, getting individuals to spend time with me one-on-one is extremely close to “actually impossible”.

Like, I’ve been trying continuously on Tumblr, Facebook, dating sites, friendly-hangout services, 4chan’s /soc/ board, kik groups, etc for over a year. It has consumed half my brain while remaining largely insoluble. The last hangout I arranged required cold-calling (well, cold-PMing) a Tumblr because they happened to mention in passing that they were in the Bay Area, but this is definitely too rare to base my socialisation on.

In conclusion: Everyone claims their preferences line up with mine, yet my preferences remain unsatisfiable even when I put large amounts of work in. Something is wrong here and it’s killing me.

  1. nolrai reblogged this from sinesalvatorem and added:
    People don’t like to make unreasonable demands, and are often trained to not believe other people saying the demand...
  2. captain-squishymeat reblogged this from sinesalvatorem and added:
    Hanging out with people one-on-one is, I think, higher-risk. At an event there are lots of other people around and...
  3. be-kind-become-kind said: yeah tbh dogs fill SOME void but not whatever it is human contact does. You could volunteer at a retirement home and make close-if-probably-racist friends there? alternatively clubs as a vehicle to meet specific people in clubs? (like hobby-based clubs)
  4. etirabys said: “… feel like they’re too boring to occupy my time one-on-one, so they only want to meet me if it’s part of an event.” oh wait. huh. that’s a Thing. Other people feel this way. This is really reassuring.
  5. someone-obviously said: Bby come to Australia, I’ll look after all your friend-hanging needs!
  6. kirbymatkatamiba reblogged this from sinesalvatorem and added:
    The travelling does still matter even if you’re the one doing it. It requires logistical planning, and them making sure...
  7. sinesalvatorem reblogged this from drethelin and added:
    >Also people need to stop talking as if “the bay area” is one place and not like 5 different cities 1-2 hours from each...
  8. drethelin reblogged this from poipoipoi-2016 and added:
    I think that having to go more than 5-10 minutes to hang out with someone is a far more substantial barrier than most...
  9. wolffyluna reblogged this from sinesalvatorem and added:
    I think another potential thing that might be going on is there being two types of one on one hangouts? Like, sometimes...
  10. not-a-lizard said: I did parse “people” as “friends” in that sentence, since I almost never spend time one-on-one in my own home with non-friends and so it didn’t occur to me to use that non-central case when thinking about my answer. I suspect other people did the same thing. (But I can become friends with someone very quickly given the right circumstances/person, see: you.)
  11. poipoipoi-2016 reblogged this from sinesalvatorem and added:
    I can’t speak for literal truth, but like… I can’t tell the difference between people she met in middle school and...
  12. viridixa said: I don’t believe I took that survey, but I would say that I enjoy hanging out 1-on-1 on a survey and would mean ‘friends’, because those are the only people that I hang out with 1-on-1 for the most part.
  13. sophiegrouchy said: Leave the Bay (or NYC/ DC/ LA/ etc). Go to the Midwest (or PNW)
  14. aconiteherbalist said: Do you have any theories about this gap between intention and practice?
  15. not-a-lizard said: theory: people like one-on-one hangouts with friends, but not with acquaintances, and they find the process of developing a friendship long and frustrating?
  16. helicoidcyme said: do your one-on-one hangouts _need_ to be in person (i acknowledge that theyre probably _better_ in person) because, like, we could play a co-op video game together or something
  17. be-kind-become-kind said: yo what about if you got a dog dogs want exactly the same thing but also they dont want anything else