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hey welcome everyone from the trending subreddits thing (self.Fuckthealtright)

GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[M] が 投稿 - announcement

what up. i just want to clear up a few things you may or may not have known about this subreddit.

1) this sub has existed for six months. it was not made in response to the election and it definitely didn't just spring up in the last week

2) this subreddit is open to anyone that hates the alt-right as much as we do. conservatives, centrists, liberals, commies, even libertarians are welcome. we will not ban you for not being a liberal here.

3) but we won't hesitate at all to ban you if you say some alt-right type shit. there are plenty of other subreddits you can go to if you want to jerk off about your opinion being "equally valid". pulling that shit in this subreddit will be answered with a resounding "suck my dick from the back". we do not want you if you condone the alt-right. this subreddit is not called "debate the alt-right" or "pretend the alt-right is a movement worth normalizing".

that's really all. if you like this subreddit go ahead and subscribe, post and comment because we always want people like you in this community. if you're a member of the alt-right, fuck outta here before i do it for you.

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[–]EtTuTortilla 184 ポイント185 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Came to see who Thealt was, understood my mistake, now subscribed.

[–]Another_Mid-Boss 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I clicked thinking this was for bitching about people who can't play healers right.

glhf I guess.

[–]fckingmiracles 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fuck that asshole Thealt Right.

[–]EtTuTortilla 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He farted on my cheese danish!

[–]Nobody1795 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pay attention to how most posts struggle to break 100 upvotes, except sometimes when they gets tens of thousands.

Because that's totally how organic voting works and isn't bots AT ALL.

[–]verdam 118 ポイント119 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This sounds fucking lovely, I'm glad I discovered this place

[–]PoliSciNerd24 76 ポイント77 ポイント  (38子コメント)

I would like to add another thing.

Concern trolls should not be welcome here. If you want to troll, go do that somewhere else.

I have been banned from many far right subs for asking questions that weren't even troll worthy. I study political science and am intrigued by different movements and ideologies, yet I'm treated as a troll and immediately banned. If you are coming from subs like r/altright or r/The_Dunce and you agree with their policy of banning anyone who questions or trolls, than do not come here and do the same and we will not go to your subs and question or troll.

[–]MrGreenTabasco 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (37子コメント)

Oh, a fellow student of politics over here, how are you doing ?

Just let me ask, what is concern trolls ?

If I understand correctly, you want to ban people who are asking why we are so hard to nazis, and why we don't stay peacefull and tolerant to them, right ? Well, I think it is easy to explain to nearly anyone, why we think this way. Because civil debate is for people with civil opinions. "Taxes must be raised vs taxes must be lowered" are civil opinions. "Taxes must be raised vs jews belong into the oven" scream for a beating.

I just don't think that banning everyone who is asking is a good idea. They will keep asking, and if we don't tell them, they are going to ask the altright.

[–]PoliSciNerd24 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I suppose you're right. We should be able to have a civil conversation about our stance. However you will see here we have people of the alt right asking charged questions with the intention to twist our views and use them against us. They come here, ask something like "aren't you just as fascist as they are for wanting to silence them?" And then they misrepresent our response to get a rise out of you. People like that should be banned.

If you're coming here in good faith and asking questions, you're right we shouldn't ban you.

[–]Quietus42 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How I deal with people like that (copied from another thread):

And all his followers have learned from the best.

But some of us are learning too. I've learned not to let them control the conversation with distractions.

Just don't let up on whatever point or question you're trying to debate. If they change the subject, just point out the deflection and go right back to your original question/point.

They either get frustrated, lose their cool, and start personal attacks and name calling, (common), leading to a report and ban; or they give up and stop responding (less common).

It's really effective.

I call it "The BBC", because it's a technique used in British news interviews, and because it shares it's initials with something they're afraid of.

Edit: when using this technique, it's vitally important that you stay calm, be polite, and do not let them bait you. I can't stress this enough. It's the part that frustrates them because they want you to lose your cool. Don't let them manipulate you like that.

I've gotten more than a few Trumpets banned using this technique.

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    [–]Redbellyrobin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (29子コメント)

    I would like to ask what Donald Trump and all his supporters did to be considered nazis. I would like your opinion

    [–]Quietus42 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (17子コメント)

    The wall, the Muslim ban, mass deportations, racism, and the alt-right.

    It gets worse.

    I would have just linked to the old altright sub, but they were banned. So instead I'll point you to their new home at pussypass and pussypassdenied.

    Those are the altright subs, and if you go look at them, you can see that they spread literal Nazi propaganda. I mean literally. Like one of them has a sticky that's an hour+ long Nazi film.

    Check out r/AgainstHateSubreddits to see example after example of those subs and subs like the_donald spreading anti-semitism, racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and Nazi sympathies.

    Edit: forgot about the Holocaust denial! SO MUCH Holocaust denial.

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      [–]Quietus42 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (15子コメント)

      https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dissecting-trumps-most-rabid-online-following/

      https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/65e1p4/heres_to_hoping_we_see_more_craters_in_the_middle/

      https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/654sns/mark_dice_on_twitter_no_this_is_not_a_joke_dove/

      https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/64xju2/i_wish_people_were_as_outraged_by_little_swedish/dg61yby/?context=3

      You were saying?

      Edit: I can provide literally hundreds more examples. Again r/AgainstHateSubreddits​ for example after example after example etc.

      Edit 2: I see that you're a t_d poster. Do you really not see these threads? Because there's so many of them daily that I find that hard to believe.

      [–]Redbellyrobin 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (14子コメント)

      Here's hoping we see more shell craters in the Middle East...

      You think that's hate speech? Are you pro-ISIS?

      [–]Quietus42 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (13子コメント)

      Here's hoping we see more shell craters in the Middle East...

      Well thanks for providing a perfect example.

      You think that's hate speech?

      Sounds like you hate people in the Middle East.

      Are you pro-ISIS?

      False dichotomy.

      But do you not realise that these bombing campaigns create more terrorists than they kill?

      [–]Redbellyrobin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (12子コメント)

      So wanting ISIS dead is hate speech?

      Yes or No

      [–]Quietus42 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      You didn't say ISIS, you said you wanted to see more craters in the Middle East. That sort of general rhetoric is hate speech.

      That sort of behavior and rhetoric by America is what ISIS uses to recruit disenfranchised and angry Muslims to fight against the West.

      Your hate is literally their recruiting tool.

      I want to defeat ISIS by recruiting their potential members with Western ideology before ISIS can twist them with hate.

      So, why are you helping ISIS recruit more members?

      [–]123420tale 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Wanting ISIS to be wiped out along with all the innocent people living there? Fuck yes it's hate speech.

      [–]MrGreenTabasco 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (10子コメント)

      I would like to ask how you come to assume, that I think that Donald Trump and his supporters are all nazis. Because I don't. And I never said anything like this in my comment.

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        [–]MrGreenTabasco 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (8子コメント)

        Hold on. Maybe I am misunderstanding you. Nowhere in my comment I speak about Donald trump or his supporters. To answer you question: no, you can not assume that. And I really don't understand how you even come to that assumption. Please be more clear, because to me, your sense of logic seems impaired. Except, you think that all trump supporters are nazis, with which I disagree.

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          [–]MrGreenTabasco 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (6子コメント)

          Do you even english ? You are either a trolling me, in which case: Well done. You sucked my patience dry. haha. Or you have some more pressing issues than my answer to your nonsensical question. Maybe you should see a doctor. Or a book. Maybe even both.

          [–]TheRecognized 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          I hate to tell you man but this guy, in this whole comment thread with you, just showed you what classic "concern trolling" is. I saw you asked for a definition on "concern trolling" further up so I figured I would let you know that. I realize this is almost 3 weeks old though so I'm sorry if I'm coming off like a dick and telling you something you've already realized.

          [–]MrGreenTabasco 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Its okay ;D. Thanks by the way for the info. I appreciate it, even as alte as it is . I thought about the possibility from his first comment, but I guess I wanted to stay friendly and constructive (as much as possible). But, if this is "concern trolling", how effective can it be ? Okay, it might suck energy from you and people who are too lazy to read might be misguided by it, but everyone with half a brain should see that its bullshit, shouldn't they ?

          [–]Redbellyrobin -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

          What did I say that makes you think I need more books in my life? Who are these nazis?

          [–]MrGreenTabasco 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Do you want an definition of an nazi from me me ? Can't you use an textbook ? And you seem to not be able to communicate what is on your mind, why I recommend you books to better your education. Formulate your question in a decent manner and detail what you really want to know.

          [–]MrGreenTabasco 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Do you want an definition of an nazi from me me ? Can't you use an textbook ? And you seem to not be able to communicate what is on your mind, why I recommend you books to better your education. Formulate your question in a decent manner and detail what you really want to know.

          [–]Need_a_Ladder 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          What do you define as a civil opinion though? Any opinion is based purely on subjective morals that an individual holds. Unless you believe in the bible and the idea of objective good and evil, then no persons opinion is any more civil than anyone else.

          [–]MrGreenTabasco 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Sorry that I not answered you earlier. Real life and stuff.

          It is true that morals are completely subjective. To be precise, nearly everything we deal with are constructs, even things like family and (or especially) nation states.

          For me, this leads to the following conclusion: That all kind of moral guides are worth the same. There is no absolute truth. From this perspective, ISIS is as correct than anyone else. Their is a problem however: While I wish for everyone to have the freedom to choose his own ideals and morals, their are codes of moral that are not compatible with each other. I could not live with an old aztec priest in the same house who wants to sacrifce children all the time, because that is horrible from my point of view.

          So, if two moral codes clash, who can not coexist, their will be conflict. And I know where I stand in this conflict. Is there an absolut truth ? One group who is right to the last little atom of doubt ? No. But I am absolutely convinced that when I have to choose between a nazi ideology and my own humanist/protestant, that I would go to great lengths to stop them.

          Tl,Dr: THEIR CAN BE ONLY ONE!

          [–]Quietus42 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I would say: no name calling, no trolling, no racism/sexism/whateverism.

          [–]garyflyer 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (25子コメント)

          I found this because i lost a friend and coworker of 10+ years to the "alt right." It started w/ conspiracy theories (sandy hook denial, 9/11 truth) and real quick like it went from "B's got some quirky beliefs all of a sudden" to full on mandella effect and trumpism/ alt right identity. all he does now it seems is go to work (not where i am anymore)and troll his fb friends and post the most bizaare shit 20x a day. i told his wife off one day in public and we havent even spoken in 6 months now. a childhood friend of his and i have been in contact recently because he's shocked by the racist beliefs, but we dont know what to do.

          [–]EtTuTortilla 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (22子コメント)

          I wasn't aware 9/11 truth was an alt right thing. They think the Bush administration is to blame, right? And then they jump all the way back and say the same group is responsible for the Kennedy Assassination? Why mourn Kennedy and hate Obama? Aside from one sticking his dick in anything warm, they share some ideals.

          Also, uh, go Carter! He's great, too. This got way off track.

          [–]Lucifer_L 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          I hate to say this, but given my perspective I sort of have to I guess, there's a portion of them who veer straight off into conspiracy-land and think everything is literally tied back to the Devil/Lucifer etc.

          I don't really follow up with how this happens but somehow it bizarrely gets intermixed with Judaism (even though as a.. self-identifying Luciferian anyway.. I am in complete disagreement with religious Judaism) and they basically become deranged anti-semites who think "the Jews" are responsible for carrying out "the Luciferian conspiracy" or whatever.

          It's complete lunacy that I wish they could all take a moment and just pause and have some self-reflection about how what they're caught up in is itself so evil and useless.

          People honestly do not think straight or very well when their convictions have an iron grip on them.

          [–]EtTuTortilla 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Ah, yeah, I remember hearing some conservative radio host talk about how Obama and Clinton smelled like sulfur all the time because they were straight outta Hell. And, holy shit, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So you've got this ridiculously powerful deity who can, like, grant you all your wishes if you pledge your soul, show up as a face in the smoke of the towers, corrupt people's souls and he's never head of Febreze? Completely alters all aspects of perception except for smell which, arguably, is one of the shittier senses in terms of localization and identification? Good. Nice. Way to think critically.

          I've also never understood how extreme right wingers can be simultaneously antisemitic and pro-Israel. Do they not know who lives in Israel? Because - last time I looked - it wasn't the French.

          [–]garyflyer 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (11子コメント)

          The alt rt lurking i've done over the last 6 months has led me to believe these idiots will only believe the most crackpot anti-intellectual youtube garbage imaginable, and i'm not sure if there's supposed to be some kind of back handed anti irony to it or not.

          [–]sarah_linden 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (7子コメント)

          I don't know if alt-right believes in 9/11 insiders but like your friend I started following some conspiracy theories and got sucked in, not fully, but enough to know the slippery slope of paranoia. Ironically the skepticism that drove me there also saved me (also starving paranoia by not going to conspiracy websites). Those people have a need that is not being satisfied by the real world and they create and believe a fictional one in order to interpret their own emotions and the world as they see it.

          [–]MrGreenTabasco 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

          This is really interesting. Would you mind to tell more ? I never understood the really crazy conspiracy theories. (not the stuff like that the Cia tried to kill fidel castro, or the Nsa collects data, which is reasonable (and provem by now))

          Maybe its because I was raised to examine things in a very logical way, or maybe because I don't really care to much about thongs that I cannot control, but I never had this "mindblown" experience, or that craving for "knowing more." It most of the times bored me. So, whats up with the stuff ?

          [–]sarah_linden 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Sure. I can only speak of my own experience. There are many conspiracies out there with a following: illuminati, secret governments (one world order as in Revelations), reptilians (aliens), hollow earth, project blue beam, mkultra, nibiru, etc. They all have "proof" of their claims. The "proof" relies on the fact that a conspiracy theorist isn't neutral and will choose to see (consciously or unconsciously) what supports his paranoia plus we have a tendency to develop strong attitudes once we adopt an idea. Why did I do it? In my case it was a combination of intellectual curiosity and childish mindset. I started entertaining ideas out of boredom to see how far down the rabbit hole could go (how creative people could be with theories) and got lost along the way. At some point I realized that if I continued consuming the information I would be convinced of the craziest ideas. Self-awareness and knowing how cults work pulled me away and back to reality. If you want to take a peek into that world send me a message and I'll send you a link.

          [–]awfulworldkid 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          I'm not sure MKUltra fits with all those other things. The program itself actually existed and it doesn't seem like there are particularly many conspiracy theories related to it.

          [–]sarah_linden 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          The program existed indeed but their theory is that still being used in the entertainment industry. Every time some pop artist has a breakdown is due to MKUltra

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            [–]EtTuTortilla 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I'll buy that.

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              [–]buenos-diaz 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              it's weird, you would think that radical Islamic terrorism would play right into their agenda. I would not expect them to abandon that for government false flag conspiracy.

              [–]BopTheDrass 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I've argued with a lot of 9/11 truthers online. Almost all of them believe in multiple contradictory conspiracy theories at the same time (for example, that NORAD "stood down" to let the planes crash, but that there was also no plane debris).

              It's safe to assume this doublethink extends to their entire worldview.

              [–]EtTuTortilla 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Exactly!

              [–]MrGreenTabasco 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

              It doesn't has to. Like gamergate doesn't have too. Like the boyscouts doesn't have too. The problem is, that the altright is always looking for things to leech on, and to pump their poison into it. They kill organisations and movements with it, and try to recruit as many as possible. Its a plague.

              [–]EtTuTortilla 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

              I hadn't heard of gamergate until now, but that has to be one of the most ridiculous movements I've heard about. I mean, games? These idiots politicize everything.

              As a writer, though, I did hear about the bullshit with the science fiction community. I didn't know it was tied to gamergate or the alt-right. People were submitting really sub-par junk by "the right kind of person" because there were too many transgender and minority characters. Like, what the fuck? It's a story. No one's making you read it. It's not an 8th grade US History textbook, for fuck's sake. I mean, unfortunately, I think that's also caused a lot of progressive novels to be idealized now for the politics and not the writing and storytelling. But, hey, just another way the alt-right has boned the world. We could all be reading fun things if they didn't try to ruin it.

              [–]Sharkaddy2 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              As someone who was paying attention to gamergate from the beginning: It was the movement that began the mass radicalization of young white men. Pretty early on entrenched white supremacists and conservative conspiracy theorists saw an opportunity in the negative reaction to feminist criticism of the gaming community, and games in general, and infiltrated places like /r/KotakuInAction. There were posts on stormfront with guides on how to turn skeptical gamergaters into white supremacists. These steps included convincing them that Muslims were evil before talking about black and Jewish people, because young post-9/11 men would be more likely to buy it. From there you make them skeptical of all liberalism. Then those same strategies spread out into the misogynist circles like redpill and MGTOW, into the SF community, and on and on and on. Fast forward a few years and we have the alt-right.

              [–]EtTuTortilla 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Makes you wonder if some of it was a proof of concept anti-liberal marketing campaign on the part of Robert Mercer and the Russian government, right? Start small, go big.

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                [–]VanFailin 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                Might as well delete "fuck r/altright" from the sidebar. Rest in Anything But Peace.

                [–]ImperatorTempus42 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                Rot In Hell?

                [–]MrGreenTabasco 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                hell is too good for them.

                [–]ImperatorTempus42 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Tartarus might still be around...

                [–]MrGreenTabasco 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                How about that gravity prison from superman ?

                [–]ImperatorTempus42 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Which Superman? I'm a 90s kid and the only classic film I saw was the one where he... wait, duh! Phantom Zone!

                [–]VanFailin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                If you believe in such a thing.

                [–]miraoister 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                what replacements do they have?

                /r/altright2?

                [–]CaptainRex5101 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                That was a real sub, lmao. It got banned

                [–]Tsukiumi-Chan 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Also banned: #3, 4, and 5. You have to go to 6 to find a subreddit (If you can even call it that)

                [–]Quietus42 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Pussypass and pussypassdenied.

                [–]Jasmyne_Nova 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Nah, move it to a list of AR subs that have been banned. Morale is good yeah?

                [–]DickEvil 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Just so you know, this sub fully supports all efforts to BASH

                [–]Foxxy-Grandpa 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                Hey mods! I'd be curious to hear what exactly happened to get r/altright banned. Maybe do a stickied post on the full scoop?

                [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                We have no idea rn

                [–]grandramble 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                According to Gizmodo it's due to doxxing and harassment.

                [–]sidewinderucf 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Doxxing, AFAIK. I may be wrong.

                [–]buenos-diaz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                here

                [–]frzferdinand72 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                This place is lit, glad I found it.

                [–]3232330 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Subscribed. Need to stay on our toes round Nazis.

                [–]Holymoleypotato 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                How many people actually identify as alt-right?

                [–]Egalitarian_Emil 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                People do identify as alt-right in my experience. In fact, it was coined by a white supremacist (Richard Spencer) who considers himself alt-right.

                [–]maggie478 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                My father does. Its real

                [–]Edgar__Friendly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I did some research into this. My approximation was somewhere between 40,000 and 240,000 in the United States (amung those that voted in the 2016 election). I could not find much reliable data online. Alot of approximations were from # of twitter accounts, stormfront daily active users. Kind of anecdotal. Havent found a solid study yet. I pulled the numbers from the few (left bias) sources I found reporting on the alt right.

                Its worth noting that this is .28% of Trump voters. Or ~ 1/5th of 1%. Trump supporter does not equal alt right.

                If anyone has any more information. Or a solid study Id appriciate it. Im happy to share more detail on how I came up with my approximation.

                [–]miraoister 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                what subs are popular with the altright now that is /r/altright is banned?

                [–]buenos-diaz 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                T_D

                [–]Edgar__Friendly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I dont think The_D is alt right. Its for Trump fanboys. A self described 24/7 rally. I would argue about 1/5th of 1% (.28%) of Trump voters are alt right.

                [–]Egalitarian_Emil 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                A lot of them moved to /r/PussyPass when their subreddit got banned.

                [–]nukemod 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Just want to encourage everyone to report any alt-right trolls you see here. Help us take out the trash.

                [–]leewilliam236 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                BASH THE FASH

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                  [–]silverkingx2 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  This is a great sticky :D (new here)

                  [–]notsoseriousreviews 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  What

                  [–]--_-_o_-_-- 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I like this subreddit. The reason is that I literally believe every single part of right-wing ideology is bogus.

                  [–]Vortgyn 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  I'm a conservative myself in the Canadian red Tory tradition and the alt-right is repugnant. We owe it to ourselves as civilized people from across the political spectrum to stand up to these bigots and fascists together.

                  [–]thatsaccolidea 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  if you're trying to avoid biogtry i'm starting to feel this sub isn't much better...

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/Fuckthealtright/comments/6eu6de/while_the_rest_of_us_are_trying_to_prevent/diddsbl/?context=3

                  [–]Vortgyn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  I'm not interested in a few idiots who take things to far. They're wrong-headed but they aren't dangerous. The alt-right is dangerous.

                  [–]thatsaccolidea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  i suspect that theres not going to be much to pick between them soon, at the rate things are going, unfortunately.

                  racism is racism. no matter the source, it tears communities apart.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJpWiV-zLoM

                  the alt-right is cancer, absolutely, but so is this divisive rhetoric coming out of the current "left". I'm concerned that the political spectrum is being co-opted by extremists on both sides.

                  [–]Vortgyn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I agree, racism is racism. Doesn't matter if it's directed at blacks, whites, whatever. I'm not disagreeing with you.

                  I'm just saying I read through the thread in its entirety and the "fuck white people" poster was one guy. And everyone else pretty much told them they sucked. So yeah. One guy was an idiot, but it doesn't condemn the entire sub.

                  [–]Lucifer_L 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Fuck yeah!!

                  [–]hopeyesperanza 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Fuck 'em!

                  [–]ebradlee10 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Subscribed.

                  [–]naytr0s 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Love trumps hate...

                  [–]CheekyGruffFaddler 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  what exactly does the alt-right even encompass? is it analogous to any previous movements in the US? (please don't just say neo-nazism, I want to actually understand what it is)

                  edit: in case this comes off as critical of this sub, that's not my intention. I just don't exactly know what the alt-right is and where it lies on a political spectrum

                  [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Tough to define. You can look at how they defined themselves, check out an archived page of r/altright and read their sidebar.

                  [–]CheekyGruffFaddler 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  it's gone, it looks like.

                  [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Right, and good riddance, that's why I suggested looking at an archived version.

                  [–]Egalitarian_Emil 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  I believe it is an authoritarian right-wing populist movement that rejects traditional conservatism including religion. I think it was born out of the new atheist movement.

                  [–]--_-_o_-_-- 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  What makes you believe they reject religion? Have you read any articles about this rejection? Was that since its origin or just a recent trend?

                  [–]--_-_o_-_-- 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  It was a rebranding for conservatism in 2016, like a new phone model. Its not anything new, just the same old hate, fear and ignorance.

                  [–]TZO2K15 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  My god, I was in such a mad rush to sub to this subreddit that it took me a minute or so to find the sub link! XD

                  I found out about this subreddit from here BTW...

                  [–]zaranek 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  omg i'm so happy to be here, guys! :)

                  [–][deleted] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  You mean to say there's a sub other than r/politics for bitch ass liberals?

                  [–]BMWbill 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Can somebody help me? I'm posting here looking for answers to why my beloved Reddit of 7+ years is becoming overrun by alt-right subs on the front page of ALL. Sure I have my own Reddit subscriptions but sometimes I like to go to /All to see what the rest of the world is upvoting. This week I found 2 or three subs I have never seen on the front page and I didn't even know they were alt-right until I found the racism and hate inside. Is this simply a reflection of a changing world?

                  [–]Greenmonster71 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Snowflakes

                  [–]Edgar__Friendly 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  MODS PLEASE ADDRESS THIS COMMENT.

                  This sub is poison. It has become a hate sub. The popular opinion in this sub is that all republicans and Trump voters are alt right. Racist. Any right wing individual is faced with hate and bigotry in this sub.

                  This sub has lost all focus. It has been overtaken by the /resist /anti-Trump crowd. The front page has posts about republicans and Trump, with nothing to do with the alt right. Another hateful circlejerk. This sub IS the_d.

                  Fuck r/FuckTheAltRight . This is a hate sub spreading the dangerous, divisive false narrative that "all republican voters are racist". When in reality, far less than 1% of Trump voters are alt right.

                  What happened to tolerance?

                  Control your community mods.

                  Here are some responses from users when I call them out in your comments for bigotry against Trump voters and Republicans :

                  """If you think this sub is going to welcome "good" Trump supporters, just normal Republican chuds, you're off your nut.""""

                  -Notice the " " around good? Trump voters cant be good people?

                  "Get a fucking life" - "^ This is somebody who thinks everyone around them is as dumb as they are."- ""You are truly an idiot"" ""REPUBLICANS ARE WHITE NATIONALISTS""

                  So this sub has attracted looney left wing nuts who have zero empathy for conservatives. They have taken over. The mission is lost. You guys have become what you rally against. A hate group. Your new mission seems to be branding all republicans, all conservatives and trump voters as alt right racists. Fuck that & fuck this sub. You are contributing to the problem if this doesnt change .

                  This sub is a hate group.

                  [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Good thing I quit modding this shithole in April

                  [–]Edgar__Friendly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Glad to hear you say this.

                  [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  It's actually sad how much this sub just objectively sucks. I guess its problem is that I created it expecting Hillary to win and for there to be alt-right related violence in the aftermath of the election. Even after Trump won, it still had a use because we had a growing r/altright that was a self-described haven for white nationalism on this website. But when they got banned, this sub's purpose pretty much evaporated, and what was left was a bunch of "bash the fash" antifa people who were convinced that, as you said, every Republican is an alt-right Nazi.

                  Modding this sub was a pain in the ass even when it had a point, but once every normal person that just didn't like Nazis left and we were stuck with bash the fash people it literally became unbearable. I definitely agree though, this subreddit is just really bad.

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                    [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Cool but if you fuck with the alt right I'll ban the fuck out of you

                    [–]KUSH_DID_420- 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I think a lot of the_donald users don't like the alt right either, yet nearly every post from here is from t_d

                    [–]--_-_o_-_-- 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    What is it you like about him?

                    [–]inthebasket2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    if you really focused on fighting racists and had less hate towards trump supporters the sub would be awesome. Just a tip... of my penis

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                      Fucking fight me fgt

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                          [–]Canary9901 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Reeeeeeeeeeeee get off my subreddit

                          [–]DiMarti 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Look another subreddit that entices violence and witch hunting and bans you if you have a different opinion, pathetic. I like.

                          [–]JZ_212 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Im all for fuckthealrtight, but the fact this stickied post was written by someone with the writing skills of a 6th grader really does not make a good first impression.

                          Also, the "threat" at the end reminds me of the gorilla warfare copypasta.

                          [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I'd like to imagine I'm actually a very good writer, but people on the internet talk in lowercase and I wanted to communicate a lack of investment on my part

                          [–]Winkus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Figured I'd subscribe here since I just got banned from uncensored news for saying the place was TD 2.0. You know the place that claims to be uncensored....crazy.

                          [–]audiomuse1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Let's spread this forum around! The alt-right needs to be countered. They've been unmet throughout the internet brainwashing people with their propaganda

                          [–]symbologythere 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Hey, newbie here...can you explain the "suck my dick from the back" thing? Not on what would illicit that response, but like what the insult means...it's just...so....

                          [–]ProgressiveJedi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I'm a progressive Democrat, so I'm joining this.

                          [–]MrMillingMachine48 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Is this a serious all the time no joke posts subreddit? I was surfing through r/againsthatesubreddits and happened upon your place. The_DonaldMcRonald Brigade is taking over r/imgoingtohellforthis.

                          [–]existentialdude 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          I don't understand why this sub isn't considered a hate sub. You even say it is for people who hate the alt right. The alt right is a belief system that you guys fairly or unfairly label as sexist, racist and homophobic. How is that different than people hating the belief system of islam? It can be labeled as sexist, homophobic and racist as well. Yet you clearly state in the rules no islamiphobia. How is it different than altrightaphobia?

                          You can look at my post history and see I am clearly not alt right. I just don't like hate towards anyone. And it seems that this sub promotes hate.

                          [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          The alt right clearly promotes hate and racism. Look at the latest sub they've taken over, r/pussypass. I don't know how you can deny that subreddit is racist.

                          [–]existentialdude 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          Definitely a lot of anger and hate in that sub. Didn't see anything neccisarily racist, antisemitic maybe. Is it possible that they don't represent the whole altright, like extremists don't represent all Muslims?

                          [–]monsterZERO 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Did you actually look at the posts in that sub and come to the conclusion that it doesn't seem racist or are you just trolling? I mean, it's everywhere. I also find it odd how you say "antisemitic maybe" like that would be acceptable.

                          Hell just looked now and one of the top posts lists these gems as "advice":

                          1. Every time you tell someone to stop using the word nigger or any other word that you deem “offensive” you’re giving credibility to the very people you claim to dislike. The liberals and the leftists.

                          2. Faggotry aka homosexuality is not, should not and will never be accepted, good etc. It is degeneracy and filth like that has no place in a white society.

                          3. Donald Trump, no matter how much you think that he’s playing 393849349d chess, is the exact same pro-Israel zionist as the ones before him.

                          4. Even if Trump build that damn wall your demographic situation will have not changed. White Americans are still going to become a minority in your own country. This goes for all Europeans as well who think that UKIP, Front National etc. will change anything. It won’t.

                          5. If you don’t want to be a minority in your own country, start acting like it. Your moderate horse shit will not change anything, even if you try to convince yourself that it does.

                          [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          I mean, check http://altright.com. Looks pretty racist to me.

                          [–]existentialdude -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          website blocked at my work, shucks. I did look at breitbart, which is apparently also an alt-right website. It didn't seem racist, but did admit that the alt-right did attract racists. I just don't want to be personally labeled as a racist because their are certain ideas of the alt-right I do agree with (same with many other political and other belief systems). If I defend an alt-right action or belief, I am labeled as a racist by some liberals, and if I agree with a single "liberal" idea I am labeled a cuck or shill by some memebrs of alt-right. This cuts off any hope of a real conversation.

                          For comparison this site definitly paints islam as sexist. Do you think Islam is sexist? the rules in this sub says that being Islamophobic will get one banned. Yet how come you can accept that group?

                          I am just playing devil's advocate, but I do believe that Islam does have sexist and homophobic tenants. I don't hate all (or any muslims I have met), I just disagree with certain beliefs. I have visited Saudi Arabia and have family there. Every single person I meet there were friendly and welcoming. I had to lie and say I was christian (I'm atheist), though because that is another thing they discriminate against.

                          I also have never meet an alt-righter, or leftist, or feminist that was rude to me, even though they all have some beliefs, sometimes bigoted, that I disagree with. I do see a lot of people on the internet that belong to all these groups that are despicable. r/pussypass, r/the_donald, r/enoughtrumpspam (or whatever) and this sub, for example.

                          I just feel like all those subs attack individuals for perceived beliefs of their group. At the same time they relish in schadenfreude every time something bad happens to a member of their detested group.

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                            [–]God_loves_irony 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                            Here is a quote from your post history, from just 2 days ago:

                            SJWs on the far left condemn whiteness all the time, I honestly don't see the difference between SJWs and the Alt Right other than the fact that they want different groups dead.

                            If your pretend questions are just advocacy for false equivalency then no, I don't think you will be welcome here.

                            By the way, I know you like to criticize both sides, don't bother sending me examples. I'm just saying that a place called r/fuckthealtright is not a place to be playing the confused centrist. There are real bigots in the world, and there are real authoritarians who think this is their chance to normalize and get bigotry written into law. If you are not one of them, but don't want to fight, get out of the way. The rest of us are mobilizing to oppose stupid, arrogant people who do not believe in Freedom for people other than themselves. Americans have been debating ethics for 241 years, the world for a lot longer, I think many of us don't need debates on Reddit to figure out that being a dick to people is not going to be in anyones' best long term interest.

                            P.S. I think the weird boggy man of SWJs is literally made up. Anyone who thinks people on-line calling out racists or misogynists when they they read their comments in some newspaper comment section is a thing worth condemning is probably a racist or misogynist.

                            [–]OverlordQuasar 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I have seen a few Tumblr posts that look like what people think SJWs look like. They were satirical. People forget that Tumblr satires itself and hates itself as much as reddit does (we did it reddit!).

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                                [–]Talpss 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                As long as the mods don't ban me, I think I will have discussion here. I've actually learned something really interesting already.

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                                  [–]Talpss 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  But me getting banned is no adversity at all. It's not a discussion, it's not an argument, it's not even a conversation, it's a message of intolerance. If I'm not going to be banned for asking questions or having arguments in this subreddit, then I'm definitely going to stay, because I'm not a Nazi and I disagree heavily with the alt right.

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                                    [–]Talpss 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    We can still call out the alt right, they've other outlets and they're in the news sometimes. We better hope they get some kind of outlet to speak about their beliefs, otherwise we might be hearing more news about them and it won't be good news.

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                                      [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Make your own subreddit then boi

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                                        [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                        Literally all you have to do to fit in here is not be cool with nazis and it perpetually amazes me that people find a way to defend them

                                        [–]blynx748 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        i commend you, i for some reason thought it referred to like conspiracy alternative media. and i thought it had to do with like censoring that, but it sickens me that there are people like that out there. truly apologize

                                        [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        No worries.

                                        [–]blynx748 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                        is that what alt right means? because i certainly am not aware of that

                                        [–]GuyBelowMeDoesntLifti created this subreddit but i don't mod anymore[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        we get that question fairly often. For guidance, I'd suggest looking at how they define themselves. For example, http://altright.com is the leader in alt-right communication, and they are run by literal Nazi Richard Spencer and publish many detestably Naziesque opinions on a daily basis. It's also worth noting that, back when r/altright was still up, they explicitly defined themselves as white nationalist in their sidebar.

                                        When we refer to the alt-right, this is generally what we are referring to.

                                        [–]blynx748 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        holy shit i feel like an idiot about that one

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                                          [–]JermanTK 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          We at least admit we are one, unlike other subreddits I know of.

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                                            [–]KyleCardoza 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            They pick and choose (and make up) facts, what makes you think they won't do the same for words?

                                            [–]BelayOffOkay 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            This tiny little comment thread is such a good metaphor for alt-right reporting and debate style, it should be featured on national news.

                                            [–]afrustratedfapper[🍰] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Lol @ XD rite guys?1!