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SlapfightComments transition to salty when real name policy is discussed on r/uberdrivers (self.SubredditDrama)

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Top comment is an argument with the moderator about what constitutues transphobic

OP gets called pathetic by moderator for report she claims she didn't make!

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[–]VodkaBarfAbout Ethics in Binge Drinking 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you expand out to the full comments, almost everyone is being incredibly hostile and downright hateful. The mods over there are seemingly encouraging it.

[–]mrpopenfreshcuck-a-doodle-doo 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd probably be too if I drove for Uber.

[–]starlitepony 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

To be honest, I was on the fence about using it before, but this is basically enough to convince me to never bother using Uber if these are the kind of people I'd be paying.

[–]EricTheLinguist/r/Austin Drama Correspondent 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It has its uses. I tend towards Uber when I'm in places where taxis don't have meters and public transit is... Questionable, but other than that I take different ride shares or more often, take local public transit.

[–]lolpancakeslol 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Uber drivers on Reddit are some of the saltiest people I've seen on this site. It seems like they're always pissed off and often lash out at customers. Anyone know why?

[–]Afro_Samurai 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doing business with Uber seems to do that too a lot of people.

[–]kayimbo[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

check out r/postmates, way worse.

[–]DannyLee90Technically, I only have 2 restraining orders. 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In my experience, 99% of Uber customers are cool. Then there is that 1% that ruin your night over a $5 cab ride.

Most well-adjusted people learn to apply a healthy cynicism towards customer-facing jobs over time. But when you've got folks who don't have that experience combined with aggressively entitled customers in a very confined space...yeah, some folks don't handle it too well.

[–][deleted] 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (4子コメント)

A phobia is an irrational fear.

Why is this argument so common? Do they not understand that homophobia/transphobia is not the same concept as arachnophobia?

It seems like such a stupid argument to make, because it relies on the wrong definition of the word. And yet I see it all the time - "I'm not homophobic! I'm not scared!".

[–]HumanTrafficCone 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman not a man and a spider!

[–]Che_Gueporna 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What do you got against spiderman? Let him love who he loves.

[–]Aetolthings should work the way I misunderstand the rest of the world 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's the etymological fallacy. Claiming that the only possible meaning of a word is the one indicated by its etymology.

[–][deleted] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, awesome! I had no idea there was a name for it.

[–]PugSwagMaster 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The moderator is a The_donald poster. Go figure.

[–]Goroman86Giraffical Interchange Format 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Wow what a shitty mod. There's a comment literally telling her to kill herself that has been up for 16 hours.

[–]stellarbeingLuciferian Global Elite 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (8子コメント)

They seem to be passively encouraging it by making the "OP thanks for reporting every comment" comment...

That's more appropriate for a private message. I smell bait.

[–]Goroman86Giraffical Interchange Format 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Either way, the mod(s) are fucking terrible. If it's an obvious troll, remove it. If not, at least remove the comments about suicide. It shouldn't be that hard...

[–]RokBo67 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Or let the small portion or heinous remarks persist so that person's post history is indicative of the person.

[–]Goroman86Giraffical Interchange Format 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I thought removed comments still show up in post history. At least they do for me on bacon reader.

[–]RokBo67 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

They do. But you'd never go to that users profile to see if they're a piece of shit unless you see them being a piece of shit in the first place. The mods at /r/uberdrivers maintain a hands off approach as often as possible and prefer to let the community police itself through the voting mechanism. You'll see in that thread the hateful stuff getting downvoted to oblivion.

[–]HereComesMyDingDongYou're like a random word generator of idiocy. 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I mean, the comment telling the OP to kill themselves is at +5, and you know... It's telling them to kill themselves. I think if there's ever a time to not be hands off is when users start encouraging suicide.

[–]RokBo67 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's random shit talking from adult strangers on the internet. If enough users down voted and reported it, it would have been automatically removed. Mods from a small subreddit have real lives and real jobs. They don't have the time or desire to make sure every body is being nice.

If users tried to doxx the OP or escalate things beyond the very few mean comments, it probably would've been handled more aggressively. That never occurred, and the obviously troll OP account will be okay.

That said, the entire thread was removed awhile ago.

[–]HereComesMyDingDongYou're like a random word generator of idiocy. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fair enough. I'm not a mod there, nor am I an Uber driver, so I have no bearing on this, just damn, it felt like there was a ton of unnecessary bullshit towards OP.

I disagree with your assessment that OP was an obvious troll though. It's not entirely hyperbole that an obvious indicator that someone is trans is potentially life threatening. It's probably fine for the vast, vast majority of people, but the "Trans Panic" murder defense has been used as recently as 2013, just from a cursory search. The OP seemed a bit high strung, but not necessarily trolling. Again, not a mod, not involved. I'm sure they'll be okay, and it is your sub, so you can run it however you want, and if a hands-off approach works, it works.

EDIT: Ehhh, reading a little more into OP's comments, they might be a troll.

[–]RokBo67 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for looking into it and for the thoughtful dialogue.

The background of this is that the subreddit sees a very high amount of diehard, bullshit trolling. Much of it is similar to this. Much of it is very different. We let the community police itself for the most part. We step in as required, and we frequently find ourselves working with the admins to both help and banish posters, where appropriate.

There have been cases where an OP has a similarly urgent or heartfelt request like this. They often PM the mods before or during their posts to make sure we can help them keep things on track. That did not occur here by any means. The messages we received were basically crack fueled hate, spam, and troll remarks. It's hard to help an OP when they come across like this, regardless of whether the concern is real or is a troll job.

[–]Its-A-Long-Storyleftist retrd alchemist 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I feel so sorry for that OP. The comments definitely take a turn for the disrespectful, and the few trying to be helpful say there's very little to be done. Perhaps she would have better luck with someone in the company (does Uber have like an HR or something?).

[–]DannyLee90Technically, I only have 2 restraining orders. 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, this is a simple fix. In the past, I messaged Uber telling them to change my display name to my nickname, and they got back to me within the same day.

The customer support system is a little convoluted (which may have prompted OP to make the thread), but Uber's response is very quick most of the time.

[–]Aetolthings should work the way I misunderstand the rest of the world 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some have suggested that, but said her legal (male) name would still appear in parentheses.

[–]DannyLee90Technically, I only have 2 restraining orders. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, double checked the app just now and my name got switched back recently. Must be a new policy of theirs.

[–]HereComesMyDingDongYou're like a random word generator of idiocy. 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow. That's just depressing. A lot of the comments weren't productive, and outright insulting towards OP. :/

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[–]tomato-123 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Kind of a tough situation. For all kinds of safety reasons I want uber to enforce the use of an official ID for drivers (this is one of those "safety issues" that anti-uber people are always on about) AND I want the driver to "match" their ID. Uber just seems like a tough line of work for someone like this until it becomes easier to change your name/gender on government issues ids. Maybe something like postmates or uber eats is a better fit for this person.

[–]perkscharlie 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel like u should be able to email a person at uber who can help you out in a special case like that, so it can be changed and yet customers are still safe. Bc honestly I can see cases where if both names are visible and the driver is automatically outed it can be a safety concern to the driver, esp since you don't need any special bg check to be a passenger. Either way uber is hell I feel bad for that chick

[–]DannyLee90Technically, I only have 2 restraining orders. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, it's possible. I had my name changed to my nickname, and they put my real name in parentheses in the last name field (so it wouldn't show up for riders, but it would still be in the system).

edit: Everyone in that thread is saying my real name should still appear. Hmh, lemme check on that...

edit2: Yep, my name got changed back recently. Guess that must be a new policy.

[–]mrpopenfreshcuck-a-doodle-doo 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Uber insists on using the driver's LEGAL name. If you sign up as Zachary, you can add Alyssa as a nickname, but passengers will see both names. You'll need to make a legal name change and get a new license before signing up if you don't want to use the name Zachary on your account.

Seems pretty cut and dry.