No one hates women more than feminists holy shit.

Feminists don’t hate women. They hate sexism and misogyny.

So what would you call what OP just went through? Justice? Justified? I mean, cool, they hate sexism and misogyny right on, but here we see a woman who is stating an opinion and that opinion is geared towards crazy feminists (feminazis). 

What did the feminist (who according to you hate those who hate women) do? Hate on her. 

Let’s take your basics shall we?:

OP liberated herself from FEMALE feminists, what would you call that? Internalized misogyny? 

I thought feminism was also about having the option to choose? Weird.

She was literally shitting on feminists and women who are feminists… That’s just misogyny. Lmao.

She said FEMINAZIS not ALL FEMINISTS. Are you relating ALL FEMINISTS with the term FEMINAZI? 

That’s misogyny.

Feminazi is disgusting and hateful towards those who were victims to actual nazis. I’ve had the term thrown at me for so much as mentioning feminism, so I’m quite aware of when and how the term is used.

You are still not addressing the points.

1. What do you call what those feminists did to OP and why is that ok or not?

2. She didn’t say ALL FEMINISTS she said feminazis, I thought that was clear?

3. She as a woman, has the power and option to choose does she not?

Where’s the liberation from men in all this exactly? Where is the unity? The tolerant and welcoming world of feminism?

You’re speaking logic to psychotically deluded professional victim with a complex Her whole life and identity revolves around the fact that she’s “oppressed” it’s evident in her mannerisms and complete disregard of OPs experiences You can’t really speak to these people very well because that would require a level of rational thinking people like @radfemtori just don’t have And it’s equally annoying because her shit ideas need to be challenged because like her they’re trash But it’s almost impossible to have any sort of rational or cohesive conversation with a sociopathic cunt Thank fuck these kinds of people are on the way out

That was just shitty. Honestly.

Idk I’m not the one whose entire existence hinges on being a professional victim

You may wanna get that psychosis checked friendo

Professional victim? Yeah I’ve been raped and beaten before multiple time. I also have bipolar disorder and PTSD. So, might wanna shut your fucking mouth

I’m really gonna believe someone who would air her shit on the intronet so easily

Yep totally not like people ever lie /s

Get the fuck over yourself I don’t really give a fuck what happened to you, you currently have all the opportunities in the world to achieve whatever you want, in the eyes of the law your equal feminism is about as needed her as cancer is

Of course you wouldn’t believe me because who the fuck believes women about that anyway

You don’t know shit about me so don’t fucking try to tell me what opportunities I do and don’t have.

Who the fuck believes a women on the internet*

Not because your a women but because your on the internet and airing your dirty laundry like it’s fucking nothing

Flaunting it around like a shield and armor trying to use it to delegitimize other people’s arguments as if it could really do that

Like I said you’re a professional victim and a fucking disgrace

It’s not a SHIELD dude omg.

That’s how your using it right now

What does your rape have to do with this women speaking out against feminism?

What does it have to do with you being a proffessional victim? I had no idea you were

Ahem

“Raped” and it wasn’t relevant at the time you brought it up to make me feel sorry except I don’t care I don’t know you for all i know your a 40 year old man getting his rocks off right now to internet trolling

YOU CALLED ME A PROFESSIONAL VICTIM. THAT’S WHY. Because I am a victim and it’s nothing to be ashamed of.

You are the least self aware person I have met in a while

You literally proved me right

There is nothing wrong with being a victim but when being a victim becomes your identity then your a professional victim

I still think your full of fucking shit

You never had to fucking mention your rape it wasn’t relevant to the conversation like at all even in any way

Obtuse fucking twit

It’s not my identity… It’s just something that’s part of what made me who I am today. Lmao. 

You didn’t have to call me a professional victim but here we are

If it isn’t then shut the fuck up about it I got shit I could’ve brought up in this conversation but I don’t because it’s fucking private and personal and not relevant

The number one way to get anyone to disregard what happened to you is by tossing it out there like it means something which it doesn’t either your argument stands on it’s own merit or it’s irrelevant and in this case you being raped is irrelevant

I mean…. Do you think I wanted attention..??? Do you think I wanted you to feel bad? What kinda connotation did you put on it? I said in the way that people would say “yeah I’ve got an appointment tomorrow” or “yeah I own a toaster” I wasn’t fucking dramatic. I was pissed at the psychosis comment though for sure

If you didn’t want attention why bring it up

Like I said I got shit that would be real fucking relevant right now but I’m sure as shit not gonna reveal it cause unlike you I like to keep my issues in the confines of my home

You on the other hand tossed that out there entirely for sympathy and don’t even fucking try and say you didn’t

I didn’t toss it out for sympathy. I can talk about rape without wanting sympathy. It’s personal, but it’s nothing to be ashamed of. It happened and it’s just a part of my life. 

Kinda like I’ve had two boyfriends but we broke up. Or like how I don’t talk to my parents.

I get it. It hurts at first, but some of us have reached a point of acceptance to where we don’t look for sympathy.

sometimes i forget that i hate men and then douchebags like this one remind me that men are just awful

imagine being so disgusting that when a woman tells you she’s been raped so she has actually been a victim to male violence, you just scream “LIAR” and “I DON’T GIVE A FUCK” and “CUNT”.

and you keep on being nice to him, even though he doesn’t deserve it.

you’re so kind, just leave this ugly man. it’s hopeless. his heart and brain are equally nonexistent.

@ignis-divine-eleison there’s no confirming proof of her story. Just because she said it, doesn’t mean it happened. Her quick response to use it and her supposed mental disabilities as a point against this person means that she might be making it up. “Might” is the key word here, she could very well have gone through such an experience such as that, but I sure hope she didn’t. Thing is, just because someone says something doesn’t make what they say fact. So her use for this is either A. It’s been a very long time and she’s more comfortable mentioning it with strangers (unlikely, no rape victim ever wants to mention how they were raped) B. She was lying about it (for benefit of the doubt I’ll assume she’s one of the more moral feminists and say she wouldn’t lie like that because only scum would lie about being raped) C. A sexual traumatic experience happened but it wasn’t too traumatic, hence the ease to bring it up.

Hating an entire group of people because an ideology placed their toxic thoughts into your head is pure ignorance.

okay so BECAUSE she COULD be lying he has alllll the right to:

1) call her misogynistic slurs
2) telling her he doesn’t give a fuck about her being a rape victim
3) make the assumption she’s lying

the reason i mostly believe women when they say they’re rape victims is because most women HAVE had bad sexual experiences with men. that’s just the truth. a shit ton of women are raped.

whether she’s lying or not, the thing you could do to not be a douche is, assume she isn’t and respond on that. if her being a rape victim completely eradicates whatever he wanted to say, it just means his point is bullshit.

and by the way, my hate for men has been caused by men and men only. my manhate might goes hand in hand with my ideology, but my ideology just means that i want gender to be gone, pornography and prostitution to be illegalized, and live in a full matriarchy.

if you believe radical feminism (aka second wave feminism) is “toxic”, you do not give a shit about women. ESPECIALLY not the ones in the third world/the ones that actually have it very VERY hard.

And most men don’t? Men have been raped quite a lot and our justice system’s favorability for women doesn’t help that case. A woman can go free for molesting a little boy, is that right in your eyes? News flash: no matter your gender, you’re human and thus prone to be a piece of garbage. Woman aren’t superior to men and men aren’t superior to women. It’s that simple. There have been many cases where a woman has lied and ruined the life of a person. No I don’t agree that he should insult her in anyway or say he doesn’t care cause that can do harm against victims.

Women threaten to put in false rape claims because they know they will ruin the person’s life without proof. Women are more likely to kill their own kids as well, so no, YOU aren’t better than men.

If someone’s supposed trauma becomes a tool to win an argument then it wasn’t that serious or it isn’t serious anymore to them.

anyway

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape

“It is extremely difficult to assess the prevalence of false accusations. Not all jurisdictions have a distinct classification of false accusation, resulting in these cases being combined with other types of cases (e.g. where the accuser did not physically resist the suspect or sustain injuries) under headings such as “unfounded” or “unproved”. There are many reasons other than falsity that can result in a rape case being closed as unfounded or unproven.[1][2] DiCanio (1993) states that while researchers and prosecutors do not agree on the exact percentage of false allegations, they generally agree on a range of 2% to 10%.“

2 to 10%. that’s quite little.

sex differences in violence:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expandhomicidemain

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table_66_arrests_suburban_areas_by_sex_2011.xls

men have been proven to be more violent.

i’m not saying one sex is superior to the other. women are the oppressed class and men are the oppressor class. i don’t believe men are naturally violent; i believe it’s socialized.

and no, that’s not okay to me, but it has barely anything to do with systematical oppression. people believe women can’t rape because 1) men behave like they constantly want sex, 2) women are seen as too weak to rape. so if anything, it is misogyny that seems to be something disadvantageous for men. just like men being hated for being feminine. that’s misogyny, because men relate femininity to women, and women are demonized/seen as weak.

more mothers kill their children, probably because men can leave their babies easily and women are overall bound to be with them, since they literally grow inside them. thats probably why 80% of child murder is committed by other men.

nobody said women have never done anything wrong. i’m telling you male violence is excessive and not only harmful towards women but also towards OTHER MEN. every war ever has been started by men. most violence was caused by men. denying this won’t really help you.

also, the sex industry aka the richest industry in the world fucking feeds themselves on violence towards WOMEN. you don’t really see men portrayed as objects that exist to please women. that’s just silly.

he told her she was “acting like a victim”, she said she actually was a victim. she wasn’t proving any point by that. she was just telling him the truth, that she actually IS a victim and that he shouldn’t be so quick to judge.

I am not denying that men are more likely to be violent, I’m just saying that women aren’t innocent in violence either. Female on male rape is not recorded because it isn’t reported. The reason why is because the social backlash it will have. If grown man went to the police or many other people, they would shrug it off or laugh at him. That’s a form of misogyny and misandry.

I want to make something clear. Not every man behaves like they want sex, that’s a dehumanizing stereotype. I, for example, despise sex and is the last thing I’m looking for in a relationship. I have many friends who hold similar beliefs in that regard except for the hating of sex, they still enjoy it, but they don’t focus on that in a relationship.

The porn industry doesn’t feed itself on violence towards women, there are categories, but porn is made by consenting adults. I don’t like porn, and I think it’s sad that people get drawn into that field.

“You don’t really see men portrayed as objects that exist to please women. That’s just silly.” That, miss, is called a strawman. Because there are many commercials, like the Old Spice commercials (what you think straight men like the sweaty, muscular men in that commercial?) There are ads as well, twilight, fifty shades of grey, just look at every cover of those small, romance paper back novels in stores to see how they portray men. Men don’t read those books, not straight men anyway.

And stating that she actually was a victim wasn’t the part i was talking about. Plus, when someone lies, they’re not going to give up the lie quickly. Not saying she’s lying, but the possibility is still there.

If you had opened the links I sent you, you would’ve seen that on most crimes, 75% to 95% of crimes have been committed by men. I’m not saying women are always innocent, I’m telling you that in comparison to men, they are way safer to be around, and that it isn’t natural for one group to commit so many more crimes than the other. There’s a reason for that.

Misandry does not exist socially. Men not being able to report f on m rape is because of misogyny. They’re expected to be dominant and too strong to get dominated. It’s meant to dehumanize women, but it’s mostly men that suffer because of it, although it is a male concept.

“Dehumanizing stereotype”? They literally are that way! Otherwise catcalling and rape wouldn’t be huge problems! Otherwise human trafficking wouldn’t happen! That you aren’t that way, okay good for you, but drawing it off as a “"stereotype”“??? About the categories, 88% of porn contains violence, and 90% of the time, that violence is directed towards a woman. Men fetishize us by making categories like “black”, “asian”, “small boobs”, you can just pick us out as if we’re some ice cream flavour. They watch us being tied up, beaten up, and RAPE PORN exists!!! Men watch lesbian porn as if lesbians exist for them!! Do you know how horrid that is!! I can’t even go on the street with my girlfriend without men literally trying to get a threesome out of us!! I’m sorry, but I know no man that isn’t obsessed with sex.

Oh poor men, getting drawn off as big and strong, what a bad dehumanizing expectation and sexualization.

Listen, men’s beauty standard is literally being strong. Do you know what that means? That means you have a POSITIVE beauty standard. If you’re strong, you can protect yourself and dominate others.

Women’s beauty standard is being small/thin, with big boobs and a big ass. To just be pretty. Look good. That’s what they want from us. Do you know what this means? They want us weak. Easily thrown around and not being able to defend yourself whenever something happens.

This is a part of misogyny. This is purposely done.

If you didn’t mean her stating she’s a victim, what do you mean?

@ignis-divine-eleison Are you fucking serious? You are a shitty excuse for a stain on the earth.

I think you should back your stuff up and throw arguments about why I’m wrong instead of just cursing me out. I’m really curious about what you actually want to say.

So tell me. Why am I wrong?

You just got through saying that it’s man’s fault that he got raped?? How is that not really fucking wrong?? It’s not “misogyny” or “to make women look weak” it’s just fucking rape. Period. End of story. And misandry clearly exists; you’re a prime example of a misandrist.

Secondly, how the hell is some macho overly-muscular man not a negative body standard? Pretty much nobody looks like then. Men have every right to feel self-conscious about themselves.

Thirdly, you’re being a hypocrite and a misogynist saying that thin women with large breasts can’t defend themselves. I’m thin and I can sure as hell defend myself.

But yeah, no. You’re a fucking saint.

My English is bad, so I guess I’m stating it wrong. I’m telling you it’s MEN who mostly don’t take it seriously. I’ve read some articles/facebook posts on a child ”“consenting”“ to sex with his teacher, and allll the men in the comments were like “what is his problem” and “he should’ve enjoyed it”.

I’m not telling you men can’t be self-concious. I’m saying that being motivated to be strong is a GOOD thing. Nobody motivates women to be muscular, and I really think that is a shame.

Good one, very clever. You’re acting as if I denied that thin women can defend themselves, rather than saying being muscular helps you defend yourself. And as if I said women can’t easily defend themselves because they’re thin. What I meant was that ANY thin person less easily defend themselves in comparison to muscular people, and most muscular people are male. I’m skinny myself and I can’t defend myself, because nobody bothered to teach me.

“You’re a fucking saint” trueee and great way of making it personal again.

The funny thing about this is, you see that my English isn’t great, and I don’t know whether you purposely twist my words around to mean what you want them to mean or whether you’re deliberately obtuse.

“Misandry does not exist socially. Men not being able to report f on m rape is because of misogyny. They’re expected to be dominant and too strong to get dominated. It’s meant to dehumanize women, but it’s mostly men that suffer because of it, although it is a male concept.”

That’s victim-blaming and misandry if I’ve ever heard it. It’s too late to backpedal now. You are literally saying that female-to-male rape is meant to dehumanize women. You said those words exactly.

“They literally are that way! Otherwise catcalling and rape wouldn’t be huge problems! Otherwise human trafficking wouldn’t happen!”

Rape is not led by sexual nature. It’s a power obsession. So saying that all men are obsessed with sex and then using that as an excuse for rape and human trafficking is not only false but generalizing and sexist.

“Women’s beauty standard is being small/thin, with big boobs and a big ass. To just be pretty. Look good. That’s what they want from us. Do you know what this means? They want us weak. Easily thrown around and not being able to defend yourself whenever something happens.”

That sounds like you’re calling thin girls weak pretty damn much to me.

“ I’m skinny myself and I can’t defend myself, because nobody bothered to teach me.”

Then teach your damn self!! Don’t rely on anyone else to help YOU learn how to defend yourself. Aren’t you feminists all about independence and strength in women anyways? Fucking hell.

No? PEOPLE NOT BELIEVING you’re raped by a woman is mostly because those people are anti-woman, how the hell would literally being raped mean you’re dehumanizing that woman??? Stop twisting my words?

I never said it was natural, I said it currently HAPPENS, whatever the reason for it is, MEN ARE MORE SEXUALLY VIOLENT THAN WOMEN. I myself believe it has been socialized, since we live in a misogynistic system!

Sorry for saying that being thin (not a thin woman, THIN) and being motivated to be thin makes you more likely to be weak compared to a muscular person??

That independence thing is more of a third wave thing, I’m obviously second wave, you know, I’m more like blame the perpetuator instead of the victim, you know. And I’d rather focus on school and everything to be financially independent, you know. That’s what I mean by independence, you know. And whatever would happen, I would never be dependent on a man, since I’m a lesbian, you know.

I’m not twisting your words lol I literally quoted you

Don’t bitch about not knowing how to protect yourself if you won’t even bother to try and learn

No one hates women more than feminists holy shit.

Feminists don’t hate women. They hate sexism and misogyny.

So what would you call what OP just went through? Justice? Justified? I mean, cool, they hate sexism and misogyny right on, but here we see a woman who is stating an opinion and that opinion is geared towards crazy feminists (feminazis). 

What did the feminist (who according to you hate those who hate women) do? Hate on her. 

Let’s take your basics shall we?:

OP liberated herself from FEMALE feminists, what would you call that? Internalized misogyny? 

I thought feminism was also about having the option to choose? Weird.

She was literally shitting on feminists and women who are feminists… That’s just misogyny. Lmao.

She said FEMINAZIS not ALL FEMINISTS. Are you relating ALL FEMINISTS with the term FEMINAZI? 

That’s misogyny.

Feminazi is disgusting and hateful towards those who were victims to actual nazis. I’ve had the term thrown at me for so much as mentioning feminism, so I’m quite aware of when and how the term is used.

You are still not addressing the points.

1. What do you call what those feminists did to OP and why is that ok or not?

2. She didn’t say ALL FEMINISTS she said feminazis, I thought that was clear?

3. She as a woman, has the power and option to choose does she not?

Where’s the liberation from men in all this exactly? Where is the unity? The tolerant and welcoming world of feminism?

You’re speaking logic to psychotically deluded professional victim with a complex Her whole life and identity revolves around the fact that she’s “oppressed” it’s evident in her mannerisms and complete disregard of OPs experiences You can’t really speak to these people very well because that would require a level of rational thinking people like @radfemtori just don’t have And it’s equally annoying because her shit ideas need to be challenged because like her they’re trash But it’s almost impossible to have any sort of rational or cohesive conversation with a sociopathic cunt Thank fuck these kinds of people are on the way out

That was just shitty. Honestly.

Idk I’m not the one whose entire existence hinges on being a professional victim

You may wanna get that psychosis checked friendo

Professional victim? Yeah I’ve been raped and beaten before multiple time. I also have bipolar disorder and PTSD. So, might wanna shut your fucking mouth

I’m really gonna believe someone who would air her shit on the intronet so easily

Yep totally not like people ever lie /s

Get the fuck over yourself I don’t really give a fuck what happened to you, you currently have all the opportunities in the world to achieve whatever you want, in the eyes of the law your equal feminism is about as needed her as cancer is

Of course you wouldn’t believe me because who the fuck believes women about that anyway

You don’t know shit about me so don’t fucking try to tell me what opportunities I do and don’t have.

Who the fuck believes a women on the internet*

Not because your a women but because your on the internet and airing your dirty laundry like it’s fucking nothing

Flaunting it around like a shield and armor trying to use it to delegitimize other people’s arguments as if it could really do that

Like I said you’re a professional victim and a fucking disgrace

It’s not a SHIELD dude omg.

That’s how your using it right now

What does your rape have to do with this women speaking out against feminism?

What does it have to do with you being a proffessional victim? I had no idea you were

Ahem

“Raped” and it wasn’t relevant at the time you brought it up to make me feel sorry except I don’t care I don’t know you for all i know your a 40 year old man getting his rocks off right now to internet trolling

YOU CALLED ME A PROFESSIONAL VICTIM. THAT’S WHY. Because I am a victim and it’s nothing to be ashamed of.

You are the least self aware person I have met in a while

You literally proved me right

There is nothing wrong with being a victim but when being a victim becomes your identity then your a professional victim

I still think your full of fucking shit

You never had to fucking mention your rape it wasn’t relevant to the conversation like at all even in any way

Obtuse fucking twit

It’s not my identity… It’s just something that’s part of what made me who I am today. Lmao. 

You didn’t have to call me a professional victim but here we are

If it isn’t then shut the fuck up about it I got shit I could’ve brought up in this conversation but I don’t because it’s fucking private and personal and not relevant

The number one way to get anyone to disregard what happened to you is by tossing it out there like it means something which it doesn’t either your argument stands on it’s own merit or it’s irrelevant and in this case you being raped is irrelevant

I mean…. Do you think I wanted attention..??? Do you think I wanted you to feel bad? What kinda connotation did you put on it? I said in the way that people would say “yeah I’ve got an appointment tomorrow” or “yeah I own a toaster” I wasn’t fucking dramatic. I was pissed at the psychosis comment though for sure

If you didn’t want attention why bring it up

Like I said I got shit that would be real fucking relevant right now but I’m sure as shit not gonna reveal it cause unlike you I like to keep my issues in the confines of my home

You on the other hand tossed that out there entirely for sympathy and don’t even fucking try and say you didn’t

I didn’t toss it out for sympathy. I can talk about rape without wanting sympathy. It’s personal, but it’s nothing to be ashamed of. It happened and it’s just a part of my life. 

Kinda like I’ve had two boyfriends but we broke up. Or like how I don’t talk to my parents.

I get it. It hurts at first, but some of us have reached a point of acceptance to where we don’t look for sympathy.

sometimes i forget that i hate men and then douchebags like this one remind me that men are just awful

imagine being so disgusting that when a woman tells you she’s been raped so she has actually been a victim to male violence, you just scream “LIAR” and “I DON’T GIVE A FUCK” and “CUNT”.

and you keep on being nice to him, even though he doesn’t deserve it.

you’re so kind, just leave this ugly man. it’s hopeless. his heart and brain are equally nonexistent.

@ignis-divine-eleison there’s no confirming proof of her story. Just because she said it, doesn’t mean it happened. Her quick response to use it and her supposed mental disabilities as a point against this person means that she might be making it up. “Might” is the key word here, she could very well have gone through such an experience such as that, but I sure hope she didn’t. Thing is, just because someone says something doesn’t make what they say fact. So her use for this is either A. It’s been a very long time and she’s more comfortable mentioning it with strangers (unlikely, no rape victim ever wants to mention how they were raped) B. She was lying about it (for benefit of the doubt I’ll assume she’s one of the more moral feminists and say she wouldn’t lie like that because only scum would lie about being raped) C. A sexual traumatic experience happened but it wasn’t too traumatic, hence the ease to bring it up.

Hating an entire group of people because an ideology placed their toxic thoughts into your head is pure ignorance.

okay so BECAUSE she COULD be lying he has alllll the right to:

1) call her misogynistic slurs
2) telling her he doesn’t give a fuck about her being a rape victim
3) make the assumption she’s lying

the reason i mostly believe women when they say they’re rape victims is because most women HAVE had bad sexual experiences with men. that’s just the truth. a shit ton of women are raped.

whether she’s lying or not, the thing you could do to not be a douche is, assume she isn’t and respond on that. if her being a rape victim completely eradicates whatever he wanted to say, it just means his point is bullshit.

and by the way, my hate for men has been caused by men and men only. my manhate might goes hand in hand with my ideology, but my ideology just means that i want gender to be gone, pornography and prostitution to be illegalized, and live in a full matriarchy.

if you believe radical feminism (aka second wave feminism) is “toxic”, you do not give a shit about women. ESPECIALLY not the ones in the third world/the ones that actually have it very VERY hard.

And most men don’t? Men have been raped quite a lot and our justice system’s favorability for women doesn’t help that case. A woman can go free for molesting a little boy, is that right in your eyes? News flash: no matter your gender, you’re human and thus prone to be a piece of garbage. Woman aren’t superior to men and men aren’t superior to women. It’s that simple. There have been many cases where a woman has lied and ruined the life of a person. No I don’t agree that he should insult her in anyway or say he doesn’t care cause that can do harm against victims.

Women threaten to put in false rape claims because they know they will ruin the person’s life without proof. Women are more likely to kill their own kids as well, so no, YOU aren’t better than men.

If someone’s supposed trauma becomes a tool to win an argument then it wasn’t that serious or it isn’t serious anymore to them.

anyway

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape

“It is extremely difficult to assess the prevalence of false accusations. Not all jurisdictions have a distinct classification of false accusation, resulting in these cases being combined with other types of cases (e.g. where the accuser did not physically resist the suspect or sustain injuries) under headings such as “unfounded” or “unproved”. There are many reasons other than falsity that can result in a rape case being closed as unfounded or unproven.[1][2] DiCanio (1993) states that while researchers and prosecutors do not agree on the exact percentage of false allegations, they generally agree on a range of 2% to 10%.“

2 to 10%. that’s quite little.

sex differences in violence:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expandhomicidemain

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table_66_arrests_suburban_areas_by_sex_2011.xls

men have been proven to be more violent.

i’m not saying one sex is superior to the other. women are the oppressed class and men are the oppressor class. i don’t believe men are naturally violent; i believe it’s socialized.

and no, that’s not okay to me, but it has barely anything to do with systematical oppression. people believe women can’t rape because 1) men behave like they constantly want sex, 2) women are seen as too weak to rape. so if anything, it is misogyny that seems to be something disadvantageous for men. just like men being hated for being feminine. that’s misogyny, because men relate femininity to women, and women are demonized/seen as weak.

more mothers kill their children, probably because men can leave their babies easily and women are overall bound to be with them, since they literally grow inside them. thats probably why 80% of child murder is committed by other men.

nobody said women have never done anything wrong. i’m telling you male violence is excessive and not only harmful towards women but also towards OTHER MEN. every war ever has been started by men. most violence was caused by men. denying this won’t really help you.

also, the sex industry aka the richest industry in the world fucking feeds themselves on violence towards WOMEN. you don’t really see men portrayed as objects that exist to please women. that’s just silly.

he told her she was “acting like a victim”, she said she actually was a victim. she wasn’t proving any point by that. she was just telling him the truth, that she actually IS a victim and that he shouldn’t be so quick to judge.

I am not denying that men are more likely to be violent, I’m just saying that women aren’t innocent in violence either. Female on male rape is not recorded because it isn’t reported. The reason why is because the social backlash it will have. If grown man went to the police or many other people, they would shrug it off or laugh at him. That’s a form of misogyny and misandry.

I want to make something clear. Not every man behaves like they want sex, that’s a dehumanizing stereotype. I, for example, despise sex and is the last thing I’m looking for in a relationship. I have many friends who hold similar beliefs in that regard except for the hating of sex, they still enjoy it, but they don’t focus on that in a relationship.

The porn industry doesn’t feed itself on violence towards women, there are categories, but porn is made by consenting adults. I don’t like porn, and I think it’s sad that people get drawn into that field.

“You don’t really see men portrayed as objects that exist to please women. That’s just silly.” That, miss, is called a strawman. Because there are many commercials, like the Old Spice commercials (what you think straight men like the sweaty, muscular men in that commercial?) There are ads as well, twilight, fifty shades of grey, just look at every cover of those small, romance paper back novels in stores to see how they portray men. Men don’t read those books, not straight men anyway.

And stating that she actually was a victim wasn’t the part i was talking about. Plus, when someone lies, they’re not going to give up the lie quickly. Not saying she’s lying, but the possibility is still there.

If you had opened the links I sent you, you would’ve seen that on most crimes, 75% to 95% of crimes have been committed by men. I’m not saying women are always innocent, I’m telling you that in comparison to men, they are way safer to be around, and that it isn’t natural for one group to commit so many more crimes than the other. There’s a reason for that.

Misandry does not exist socially. Men not being able to report f on m rape is because of misogyny. They’re expected to be dominant and too strong to get dominated. It’s meant to dehumanize women, but it’s mostly men that suffer because of it, although it is a male concept.

“Dehumanizing stereotype”? They literally are that way! Otherwise catcalling and rape wouldn’t be huge problems! Otherwise human trafficking wouldn’t happen! That you aren’t that way, okay good for you, but drawing it off as a “"stereotype”“??? About the categories, 88% of porn contains violence, and 90% of the time, that violence is directed towards a woman. Men fetishize us by making categories like "black”, “asian”, “small boobs”, you can just pick us out as if we’re some ice cream flavour. They watch us being tied up, beaten up, and RAPE PORN exists!!! Men watch lesbian porn as if lesbians exist for them!! Do you know how horrid that is!! I can’t even go on the street with my girlfriend without men literally trying to get a threesome out of us!! I’m sorry, but I know no man that isn’t obsessed with sex.

Oh poor men, getting drawn off as big and strong, what a bad dehumanizing expectation and sexualization.

Listen, men’s beauty standard is literally being strong. Do you know what that means? That means you have a POSITIVE beauty standard. If you’re strong, you can protect yourself and dominate others.

Women’s beauty standard is being small/thin, with big boobs and a big ass. To just be pretty. Look good. That’s what they want from us. Do you know what this means? They want us weak. Easily thrown around and not being able to defend yourself whenever something happens.

This is a part of misogyny. This is purposely done.

If you didn’t mean her stating she’s a victim, what do you mean?

@ignis-divine-eleison Are you fucking serious? You are a shitty excuse for a stain on the earth.

I think you should back your stuff up and throw arguments about why I’m wrong instead of just cursing me out. I’m really curious about what you actually want to say.

So tell me. Why am I wrong?

You just got through saying that it’s man’s fault that he got raped?? How is that not really fucking wrong?? It’s not "misogyny” or “to make women look weak” it’s just fucking rape. Period. End of story. And misandry clearly exists; you’re a prime example of a misandrist.

Secondly, how the hell is some macho overly-muscular man not a negative body standard? Pretty much nobody looks like then. Men have every right to feel self-conscious about themselves.

Thirdly, you’re being a hypocrite and a misogynist saying that thin women with large breasts can’t defend themselves. I’m thin and I can sure as hell defend myself.

But yeah, no. You’re a fucking saint.

No one hates women more than feminists holy shit.

Feminists don’t hate women. They hate sexism and misogyny.

So what would you call what OP just went through? Justice? Justified? I mean, cool, they hate sexism and misogyny right on, but here we see a woman who is stating an opinion and that opinion is geared towards crazy feminists (feminazis). 

What did the feminist (who according to you hate those who hate women) do? Hate on her. 

Let’s take your basics shall we?:

OP liberated herself from FEMALE feminists, what would you call that? Internalized misogyny? 

I thought feminism was also about having the option to choose? Weird.

She was literally shitting on feminists and women who are feminists… That’s just misogyny. Lmao.

She said FEMINAZIS not ALL FEMINISTS. Are you relating ALL FEMINISTS with the term FEMINAZI? 

That’s misogyny.

Feminazi is disgusting and hateful towards those who were victims to actual nazis. I’ve had the term thrown at me for so much as mentioning feminism, so I’m quite aware of when and how the term is used.

You are still not addressing the points.

1. What do you call what those feminists did to OP and why is that ok or not?

2. She didn’t say ALL FEMINISTS she said feminazis, I thought that was clear?

3. She as a woman, has the power and option to choose does she not?

Where’s the liberation from men in all this exactly? Where is the unity? The tolerant and welcoming world of feminism?

You’re speaking logic to psychotically deluded professional victim with a complex Her whole life and identity revolves around the fact that she’s “oppressed” it’s evident in her mannerisms and complete disregard of OPs experiences You can’t really speak to these people very well because that would require a level of rational thinking people like @radfemtori just don’t have And it’s equally annoying because her shit ideas need to be challenged because like her they’re trash But it’s almost impossible to have any sort of rational or cohesive conversation with a sociopathic cunt Thank fuck these kinds of people are on the way out

That was just shitty. Honestly.

Idk I’m not the one whose entire existence hinges on being a professional victim

You may wanna get that psychosis checked friendo

Professional victim? Yeah I’ve been raped and beaten before multiple time. I also have bipolar disorder and PTSD. So, might wanna shut your fucking mouth

I’m really gonna believe someone who would air her shit on the intronet so easily

Yep totally not like people ever lie /s

Get the fuck over yourself I don’t really give a fuck what happened to you, you currently have all the opportunities in the world to achieve whatever you want, in the eyes of the law your equal feminism is about as needed her as cancer is

Of course you wouldn’t believe me because who the fuck believes women about that anyway

You don’t know shit about me so don’t fucking try to tell me what opportunities I do and don’t have.

Who the fuck believes a women on the internet*

Not because your a women but because your on the internet and airing your dirty laundry like it’s fucking nothing

Flaunting it around like a shield and armor trying to use it to delegitimize other people’s arguments as if it could really do that

Like I said you’re a professional victim and a fucking disgrace

It’s not a SHIELD dude omg.

That’s how your using it right now

What does your rape have to do with this women speaking out against feminism?

What does it have to do with you being a proffessional victim? I had no idea you were

Ahem

“Raped” and it wasn’t relevant at the time you brought it up to make me feel sorry except I don’t care I don’t know you for all i know your a 40 year old man getting his rocks off right now to internet trolling

YOU CALLED ME A PROFESSIONAL VICTIM. THAT’S WHY. Because I am a victim and it’s nothing to be ashamed of.

You are the least self aware person I have met in a while

You literally proved me right

There is nothing wrong with being a victim but when being a victim becomes your identity then your a professional victim

I still think your full of fucking shit

You never had to fucking mention your rape it wasn’t relevant to the conversation like at all even in any way

Obtuse fucking twit

It’s not my identity… It’s just something that’s part of what made me who I am today. Lmao. 

You didn’t have to call me a professional victim but here we are

If it isn’t then shut the fuck up about it I got shit I could’ve brought up in this conversation but I don’t because it’s fucking private and personal and not relevant

The number one way to get anyone to disregard what happened to you is by tossing it out there like it means something which it doesn’t either your argument stands on it’s own merit or it’s irrelevant and in this case you being raped is irrelevant

I mean…. Do you think I wanted attention..??? Do you think I wanted you to feel bad? What kinda connotation did you put on it? I said in the way that people would say “yeah I’ve got an appointment tomorrow” or “yeah I own a toaster” I wasn’t fucking dramatic. I was pissed at the psychosis comment though for sure

If you didn’t want attention why bring it up

Like I said I got shit that would be real fucking relevant right now but I’m sure as shit not gonna reveal it cause unlike you I like to keep my issues in the confines of my home

You on the other hand tossed that out there entirely for sympathy and don’t even fucking try and say you didn’t

I didn’t toss it out for sympathy. I can talk about rape without wanting sympathy. It’s personal, but it’s nothing to be ashamed of. It happened and it’s just a part of my life. 

Kinda like I’ve had two boyfriends but we broke up. Or like how I don’t talk to my parents.

I get it. It hurts at first, but some of us have reached a point of acceptance to where we don’t look for sympathy.

sometimes i forget that i hate men and then douchebags like this one remind me that men are just awful

imagine being so disgusting that when a woman tells you she’s been raped so she has actually been a victim to male violence, you just scream “LIAR” and “I DON’T GIVE A FUCK” and “CUNT”.

and you keep on being nice to him, even though he doesn’t deserve it.

you’re so kind, just leave this ugly man. it’s hopeless. his heart and brain are equally nonexistent.

@ignis-divine-eleison there’s no confirming proof of her story. Just because she said it, doesn’t mean it happened. Her quick response to use it and her supposed mental disabilities as a point against this person means that she might be making it up. “Might” is the key word here, she could very well have gone through such an experience such as that, but I sure hope she didn’t. Thing is, just because someone says something doesn’t make what they say fact. So her use for this is either A. It’s been a very long time and she’s more comfortable mentioning it with strangers (unlikely, no rape victim ever wants to mention how they were raped) B. She was lying about it (for benefit of the doubt I’ll assume she’s one of the more moral feminists and say she wouldn’t lie like that because only scum would lie about being raped) C. A sexual traumatic experience happened but it wasn’t too traumatic, hence the ease to bring it up.

Hating an entire group of people because an ideology placed their toxic thoughts into your head is pure ignorance.

okay so BECAUSE she COULD be lying he has alllll the right to:

1) call her misogynistic slurs
2) telling her he doesn’t give a fuck about her being a rape victim
3) make the assumption she’s lying

the reason i mostly believe women when they say they’re rape victims is because most women HAVE had bad sexual experiences with men. that’s just the truth. a shit ton of women are raped.

whether she’s lying or not, the thing you could do to not be a douche is, assume she isn’t and respond on that. if her being a rape victim completely eradicates whatever he wanted to say, it just means his point is bullshit.

and by the way, my hate for men has been caused by men and men only. my manhate might goes hand in hand with my ideology, but my ideology just means that i want gender to be gone, pornography and prostitution to be illegalized, and live in a full matriarchy.

if you believe radical feminism (aka second wave feminism) is “toxic”, you do not give a shit about women. ESPECIALLY not the ones in the third world/the ones that actually have it very VERY hard.

And most men don’t? Men have been raped quite a lot and our justice system’s favorability for women doesn’t help that case. A woman can go free for molesting a little boy, is that right in your eyes? News flash: no matter your gender, you’re human and thus prone to be a piece of garbage. Woman aren’t superior to men and men aren’t superior to women. It’s that simple. There have been many cases where a woman has lied and ruined the life of a person. No I don’t agree that he should insult her in anyway or say he doesn’t care cause that can do harm against victims.

Women threaten to put in false rape claims because they know they will ruin the person’s life without proof. Women are more likely to kill their own kids as well, so no, YOU aren’t better than men.

If someone’s supposed trauma becomes a tool to win an argument then it wasn’t that serious or it isn’t serious anymore to them.

anyway

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape

“It is extremely difficult to assess the prevalence of false accusations. Not all jurisdictions have a distinct classification of false accusation, resulting in these cases being combined with other types of cases (e.g. where the accuser did not physically resist the suspect or sustain injuries) under headings such as “unfounded” or “unproved”. There are many reasons other than falsity that can result in a rape case being closed as unfounded or unproven.[1][2] DiCanio (1993) states that while researchers and prosecutors do not agree on the exact percentage of false allegations, they generally agree on a range of 2% to 10%.“

2 to 10%. that’s quite little.

sex differences in violence:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expandhomicidemain

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table_66_arrests_suburban_areas_by_sex_2011.xls

men have been proven to be more violent.

i’m not saying one sex is superior to the other. women are the oppressed class and men are the oppressor class. i don’t believe men are naturally violent; i believe it’s socialized.

and no, that’s not okay to me, but it has barely anything to do with systematical oppression. people believe women can’t rape because 1) men behave like they constantly want sex, 2) women are seen as too weak to rape. so if anything, it is misogyny that seems to be something disadvantageous for men. just like men being hated for being feminine. that’s misogyny, because men relate femininity to women, and women are demonized/seen as weak.

more mothers kill their children, probably because men can leave their babies easily and women are overall bound to be with them, since they literally grow inside them. thats probably why 80% of child murder is committed by other men.

nobody said women have never done anything wrong. i’m telling you male violence is excessive and not only harmful towards women but also towards OTHER MEN. every war ever has been started by men. most violence was caused by men. denying this won’t really help you.

also, the sex industry aka the richest industry in the world fucking feeds themselves on violence towards WOMEN. you don’t really see men portrayed as objects that exist to please women. that’s just silly.

he told her she was “acting like a victim”, she said she actually was a victim. she wasn’t proving any point by that. she was just telling him the truth, that she actually IS a victim and that he shouldn’t be so quick to judge.

I am not denying that men are more likely to be violent, I’m just saying that women aren’t innocent in violence either. Female on male rape is not recorded because it isn’t reported. The reason why is because the social backlash it will have. If grown man went to the police or many other people, they would shrug it off or laugh at him. That’s a form of misogyny and misandry.

I want to make something clear. Not every man behaves like they want sex, that’s a dehumanizing stereotype. I, for example, despise sex and is the last thing I’m looking for in a relationship. I have many friends who hold similar beliefs in that regard except for the hating of sex, they still enjoy it, but they don’t focus on that in a relationship.

The porn industry doesn’t feed itself on violence towards women, there are categories, but porn is made by consenting adults. I don’t like porn, and I think it’s sad that people get drawn into that field.

"You don’t really see men portrayed as objects that exist to please women. That’s just silly.” That, miss, is called a strawman. Because there are many commercials, like the Old Spice commercials (what you think straight men like the sweaty, muscular men in that commercial?) There are ads as well, twilight, fifty shades of grey, just look at every cover of those small, romance paper back novels in stores to see how they portray men. Men don’t read those books, not straight men anyway.

And stating that she actually was a victim wasn’t the part i was talking about. Plus, when someone lies, they’re not going to give up the lie quickly. Not saying she’s lying, but the possibility is still there.

If you had opened the links I sent you, you would’ve seen that on most crimes, 75% to 95% of crimes have been committed by men. I’m not saying women are always innocent, I’m telling you that in comparison to men, they are way safer to be around, and that it isn’t natural for one group to commit so many more crimes than the other. There’s a reason for that.

Misandry does not exist socially. Men not being able to report f on m rape is because of misogyny. They’re expected to be dominant and too strong to get dominated. It’s meant to dehumanize women, but it’s mostly men that suffer because of it, although it is a male concept.

"Dehumanizing stereotype”? They literally are that way! Otherwise catcalling and rape wouldn’t be huge problems! Otherwise human trafficking wouldn’t happen! That you aren’t that way, okay good for you, but drawing it off as a “"stereotype”“??? About the categories, 88% of porn contains violence, and 90% of the time, that violence is directed towards a woman. Men fetishize us by making categories like "black”, “asian”, “small boobs”, you can just pick us out as if we’re some ice cream flavour. They watch us being tied up, beaten up, and RAPE PORN exists!!! Men watch lesbian porn as if lesbians exist for them!! Do you know how horrid that is!! I can’t even go on the street with my girlfriend without men literally trying to get a threesome out of us!! I’m sorry, but I know no man that isn’t obsessed with sex.

Oh poor men, getting drawn off as big and strong, what a bad dehumanizing expectation and sexualization.

Listen, men’s beauty standard is literally being strong. Do you know what that means? That means you have a POSITIVE beauty standard. If you’re strong, you can protect yourself and dominate others.

Women’s beauty standard is being small/thin, with big boobs and a big ass. To just be pretty. Look good. That’s what they want from us. Do you know what this means? They want us weak. Easily thrown around and not being able to defend yourself whenever something happens.

This is a part of misogyny. This is purposely done.

If you didn’t mean her stating she’s a victim, what do you mean?

@ignis-divine-eleison Are you fucking serious? You are a shitty excuse for a stain on the earth.