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[–]IranianGenius/r/Tinder janitor[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (4子コメント)

Sorry OP. Automod hit your post as bad as...well I can't think of a good analogy...

Anyway it's back up.

[–]bananasenpijamas 3182 ポイント3183 ポイント  (44子コメント)

rudeboy

[–]kanyes_god_complexWifed Up 8671 ポイント8672 ポイント  (2420子コメント)

Good lord

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 29.2k ポイント29.2k ポイント x4 (2334子コメント)

Not to hijack the top comment, but for the record there was an organized attempt to censor information contained in the police report (which is, itself, terrifying) a few years back on reddit back when Chris Brown beat Rhianna viciously. The text of the police report being censored indicates that Chris Brown and his team used PR to whitewash a brutal near death beating into a simple "he hit her" imo. The text itself is so intense that I think it's worth sharing here. Apologies if its not the right place.

Here's the original (censored thread) thread- - http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/ps8j6/here_is_the_police_report_with_the_details_of/

Here's the comments saved in an album before deletion- http://imgur.com/a/S08Jt

Here's one censored thread about it - http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/psoue/why_was_the_chris_brown_police_report_removed/

Here's a response from the moderator who quit as a moderator on said thread -https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/ptsny/dear_internet_vigilantes_and_lynch_mobs/c3sc3dq/

Here's the full text (bolded by me)

Christopher Brown and Robyn F. have been involved in a dating relationship for approx one and half years. On Sunday, February 8, 2009 at 0025 hours, Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robin F. picked up Brown’s cellular telephone and observed a three page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with. A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit he took his right hand and shoved her head against the passenger window of the vehicle causing an approximate one inch raised circular contusion. Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F’s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.

Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, “I am going to beat the shit out of you when we get home! You wait and see!” *Robyn F. picked her cellular telephone and called her personal assistant, Jennifer Rosales at [redacted]. Rosales did not answer the telephone but while her voicemail greeting was playing, Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, “I’m on my way home. Make sure the cops are there when I get there.” (This statement was made while the greeting was playing and was not captured as a message). After Robyn F. faked the call, *Brown and looked at her and stated, “You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I’m really going to kill you.” Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown. Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand. Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford.** Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.**

Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular phone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand. Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. ** He stopped the vehicle in front of [redacted] and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it. **Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F’s. left and right carotid arteries causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness. She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gauge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown’s body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet causing several contusions. Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.’s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order (EPO).

Your affiant conducted an interview with witness Melissa Ford who advised on Feb. 8 2009 at approximately 0055 hours, she received a phone call from Robin F. from an unknown telephone number, later identified as the cellular telephone of Police Officer III Chavez. Robin F advised Ford that she had been assaulted by Brown. At approximately 0100 hours, Brown called Ford as if nothing happened. Ford advised Brown that she had already talked to Robin F. and was aware of what happened. Ford advised Brown that the neighbors had called the police and that they were with Robyn F. Brown asked Ford if Robin F. had provided police with his name and Ford advised him that she had. Brown hung up the cellular telephone and did not call back.

On February 8, 2009 at 1900 hours, Brown surrendered himself to your affiant and was arrested for 422 PC, Criminal Threats. Brown was given a copy of the EPO and advised not to contact Robyn F.

On February 17, 2009, Ford advised your affiant that she had received text messages from telephone number [redacted], a number that Ford recognizes as belonging to Brown. In the text message, Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised Ford that he was going to get help.

Your affiant is requesting the telephone records and text message data stored on the cellular telephones of Robyn F., [redacted] and Brown, [redacted] in an attempt to establish a time line of the events that occurred on the evening of February 8, 2008 and to further implicate Brown as the person who assaulted Robyn F.

Source- http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/03/05/brown.warrant.pdf

[–]quicknin 16.6k ポイント16.6k ポイント  (1298子コメント)

Yeah Fuck Chris Brown. Good job making sure people cant down play how terrible of a person he is.

[–]ginbooth 7305 ポイント7306 ポイント  (1092子コメント)

How in the hell did he get a cameo on Blackish after all this shit? Absolutely disgusting.

[–]aquamarinerock 5127 ポイント5128 ポイント  (818子コメント)

And his music is still popular. Uhg.

[–]KIDWHOSBORED 2432 ポイント2433 ポイント  (628子コメント)

Never underestimate the ability for Chris Brown to dance and sing his way back in to Americans hearts.

[–]Corporation_tshirt 3951 ポイント3952 ポイント  (323子コメント)

No, never underestimate the ability of publicists to make sure a corporation can wring every possible cent out of a hot property.

As a guy who grew up watching his dad beat the shit out of his mom, fuck Chris Brown.

[–]soylaverdad 1905 ポイント1906 ポイント  (235子コメント)

As a guy who never saw a man beat up a woman, I concur.

[–]Nash0311 1105 ポイント1106 ポイント  (174子コメント)

The fact that he had a tattoo of her beaten in face makes me want to vomit

[–]MyKidsMom39 506 ポイント507 ポイント  (13子コメント)

You're kidding. Just when I thought I couldn't loathe him more...

[–]PilbowZortox 230 ポイント231 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Holy flip, he's like a serial killer... He took a trophy, this is a-whole-nother level of psychotic.

Edit: grammar.

[–]Jim_Cornettes_Racket 382 ポイント383 ポイント  (45子コメント)

I've seen it once or twice in public. Took about 20 seconds before that shit was ended though.

Saw a guy slap his wife at a bar I use to run. The DJ saw it, left his equipment, went right up to the guy and choked slammed him into the floor and held him by the throat until security got rid of his ass.

[–]looneylevi 103 ポイント104 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Man I love how fast people will put down that kind of shit but at the same time it's disgusting. I've seen a guy get beaten senseless because his belligerent girlfriend was knocking the fuck out of him and he slapped her back once and instantly 15 guys were on top of him kicking the utter crap put of him.

[–]DickyMcDoodle 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (5子コメント)

As a guy who watched his dad beat his mum, I'm forever grateful that he was a 5"2 coward who stopped when I threatened to kill him if he did it again. I was 5"8 at 12 y/o and about 80kg. I was scared shitless, but to this day I think it's the bravest thing I've ever done.

[–]bi-cycle 492 ポイント493 ポイント  (62子コメント)

Chris Brown also grew up watching a guy beat the shit out of his mom. I can recall reading an interview with him years before he beat Rhianna talking about his childhood and he said it was something he would never do for that reason. It stuck with me because around the same time I had been reading that many people who abuse their partners grew up in households where that was the case. They don't learn any coping skills for dealing with anger and so the cycle continues. It's not true for everyone in this situation of course but it was unfortunately true here.

[–]Thanes_of_Danes 381 ポイント382 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I grew up in an abusive home and it is really easy to fall into the trap of repeating the painful lessons learned. Fortunately I am aware enough to avoid doing the bad shit my dad did, but it's basically instinct because that was my "normal" for so long.

If anyone who has the same struggles is reading this, I think the most potent weapon against those bad instincts is to remember that everyone else in your life is a human being who can be just as scared and hurt and sad as you were when you were abused.

[–]Zerothian 674 ポイント675 ポイント  (28子コメント)

There's no excuse for it, you can argue "oh, but he had a shitty childhood, that fucked him up". Bull. Shit. I had the exact same shit going on, plenty of people have, and worse, and I am perfectly fine. Because I actually went to get help for it like a normal person would, instead of beating the shit out of my SO like a fucking psychopath. It's not like he doesn't have the money for professional help with his anger issues. He just doesn't want to, or more likely, feels justified in what he did so doesn't even feel like he has to.

[–]bi-cycle 272 ポイント273 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wasn't excusing his behavior, only adding additional, relevant context. It's great that you've gotten help and disturbing that he hasn't, his behavior after the fact has been completely reprehensible.

[–]Eulers_ID 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not about excusing someone's behavior, but explaining it. It's important to discuss why someone does horrible things because it helps us avoid situations that cause those terrible things to happen.

[–]Is_Always_Honest 116 ポイント117 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yep its why I lose a liiiiittle respect for people who idolize celebrities. They are normal people, which means some of them are indeed assholes, idiots, and all other sorts of unsavory thing.

[–]sea-sigh 731 ポイント732 ポイント  (48子コメント)

Not I. I refused to dance to a song of his after this happened and was kicked from doing the show performance. Sucked, but it was a choice I had to make as a victim of abuse. I've actually gotten a local diner to stop playing his music by pulling up the police report. They had no idea the abuse was that bad, and as a "family" location, they agreed it wasn't appropriate to play. At the time, it was being downplayed as "he only hit her, it happens, get over it", but it's ignorant to make that assumption. Who knows what she had to put up with before this incident. I'm almost positive that he has hit her before. It's rather uncommon for abuse this severe to start and end with a single situation. Anyways, point being, sometimes speaking up does nothing, but sometimes it does. It's always worth a shot. Small victories give way to bigger ones.

[–]talldrseuss 418 ポイント419 ポイント  (26子コメント)

As a guy that grew up with his mother beating him severely, I don't kn ow how people downplay "oh he just hit her", regardless of who the person is. Domestic abuse is fucked up, and if you can't keep your hands to yourself, regardless if you're the male or female, you don't deserve to be in a relationship. I rarely raise my voice against my girlfriend after all the crap I've been through growing up with my monster of a mother. If my girlfriend and I have a disagreement, we talk it out and work it out

[–]sea-sigh 125 ポイント126 ポイント  (13子コメント)

There are a surprising amount of families who teach their children violence is okay. I believe there was a youtube family who had quite the negative light shine on them recently for this. I don't remember their name, but they cursed and screamed at their children while the children hit each other. They went on to make a video about how people have ruined their family and that what they're doing is okay and a joke. The children then chimed in agreeing.

There are also people who simply have never experienced it and they literally cannot empathize. They hear "he hit her" and probably imagine what it's like to get in a fist fight with someone. The dynamic of a fist fight is short lasting and seemingly easy to get over. They dont consider abuse as it actually is, extended torture.

[–]lovemonkeyz27/m/sweden 92 ポイント93 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I believe there was a youtube family who had quite the negative light shine on them recently for this. I don't remember their name, but they cursed and screamed at their children while the children hit each other.

DaddyOFive.

Currently known as DaddyOThree.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39783670

[–]grumpythunder 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can confirm. Worked as a child psychotherapist with lower class / poor. You wouldn't believe the number of parents who would try to 'teach' their child not to hit the child's sibling(s) BY HITTING THE CHILD.

The parents were oblivious to their hypocrisy.

Was on a first name basis with child protective services.

[–]releasethedogs 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I teach middle school in an underprivileged area. I can assure you that what he says is true. The kids play it off as violence is funny or a joke or otherwise not serious.
I broke up a fight with a girl who got her hair completely ripped out of her scalp and the top of her head was bleeding. The other student were like no big deal, it's just a fight.
Kids hit other kids because they were "getting on my nerves" and that's valid to them. Like it's ok to go around assaulting people because they are rude/annoying.

[–]CptObviousRemark 227 ポイント228 ポイント  (195子コメント)

It's not just America. The world loves Chris Brown despite him being a terrible human.

[–]Disarmyou 848 ポイント849 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Can confirm down in Australia & New Zealand we don't love Chris Brown, he was denied visa entry to play concerts based on his conviction.

[–]deecewan 81 ポイント82 ポイント  (8子コメント)

While I completely agree with what we did (Australia), I think it should be noted that it was completely political. Domestic violence had just had a lot of media coverage.

Australia has granted him a visa previously, post-conviction. We made a good decision this time, but I'm not sure it was for the right reasons.

[–]MrPringles23 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not Australia.

Pretty sure certain radio stations still refuse to play his songs because of listeners calling in when they tried it.

[–]The_Brutally_Honest 98 ポイント99 ポイント  (152子コメント)

They love his music, not him.

[–]im_not_a_robot2 419 ポイント420 ポイント  (139子コメント)

When they support his music, they support him. That part blows my mind. I refuse to listen to him.

[–]meinblown 127 ポイント128 ポイント  (46子コメント)

I refuse to listen to him or to any collabs that he does with other artists, and seriously consider ignoring them as well.

[–]wabagooniis 237 ポイント238 ポイント  (9子コメント)

When people say that an abuse or sexual assault accusation can ruin a man's career, think of instances like this, and why so many women fear reporting. He was ultimately protected by the media.

[–]newginger 126 ポイント127 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Same thing happened to Tina Turner. Ultimately I think she was believed but her son took Ike's side in the divorce. It doesn't only happen to famous people, it happens this way in DV situations in real life. My ex's friends had no idea what was happening, thought I was sending him to jail on false charges. His family minimized and justified his behaviour, also said things like these type of matters should be kept private. In some ways I wish Rihanna would have spoken up more on the subject other than a few interviews. It could have made a difference to lots of young girls if she had taken it further, like setting up a DV education non profit. But I understand why she didn't. There is so much shame that you allowed yourself to be treated that way. You want to move on and forget it. There was also a great deal of post violence grooming and controlling behaviour by him. He made sure she didn't completely ruin him. It was all about Chris and not about what it did to her.

It colors every relationship you have after, makes you distrust everyone. I wonder if she ever got good help for what happened. I got the feeling she felt he "just lost it", "his eyes went cold, he was a different person". I feel she believed he "lost control", the opposite is true. A controller when challenged in any way knows exactly what he is doing. He didn't want her having a say in him cheating with some other girl. She had no right to get mad at him. He is a man, a celebrity, screw her- he can do what he wants. Take this punch to the face and shut up. These type of guys plan it, can control it, but choose not to. She claims this was the first time it happened, I think she was covering for him. A DV abuser escalates his violence over time, I have never heard of a 0-60 DV relationship like described in those documents. A tough situation she was in I think. She was left with confusing feelings of anger, love, hate, missing him... and a career to think of. I would bet there were talks by her handlers about how to approach it so she would not lose her audience. A person treated well in relationships could never understand why she stayed and got back together with him. It seems sick, right? I have a theory that it is an addiction for the victim too, not just the abuser. The victim is addicted to the scraps of love, the glorious apology phase where you catch a glimpse of that person you fell in love with. Only they never figure out that the abuser faked that person in the beginning so you would be controlled. It was a long time ago it happened to me, and luckily some things I forgot. Then I find paperwork I have to keep for custody and it all comes rushing back. She was lucky she got out alive. I think he would have killed her that night.

[–]TheBigBadPanda 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (3子コメント)

On some level i can get people listening to the music, death of the artist and all that, but im pretty disgusted that people do so in a way that he and others still make money off of it. I dont have anything principally against pirating the music, but buying it on iTunes aint right.

[–]koolerjames 452 ポイント453 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Dude you should read comments afterwards on his social media. "He can beat me up" was probably the most disgusting.

[–]thelastdeskontheleft 192 ポイント193 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Seriously you can go to any Chris Brown video now and see ones exactly like this. Really don't think they would be having such a good time with their teeth punched down their throat...

[–]seegabego 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yup. I remember seeing posts from his female super - fans putting the blame on Rihanna saying shit like that or things along the lines of "she should have kept her mouth shut" smfh.

[–]stef_t97 570 ポイント571 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Him and his dudes jumped Frank Ocean in a parking lot too. Idk how he gets chance after chance.

[–]amidon1130 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (5子コメント)

"Why's his mug all bloody that was a three on one?"

[–]americandream1159 266 ポイント267 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Frank Ocean? If you're trying to be hard, "Pink Matter" isn't the dude you jump.

[–]_Fudge_Judgement_ 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It would make a decent episode of Celebrity Death Match though. I wouldn't mind seeing claymation Chris Brown impaled on a microphone stand as Frank stands next to him, crooning soulfully.

[–]winksup 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (6子コメント)

He showed up at a college here in VA a while after this, during domestic violence awareness month, and the girls were thirsty as hell for him.

[–]AlwaysClassyNvrGassy 182 ポイント183 ポイント  (23子コメント)

And he has a special coming up telling "his side." Fucking bullshit http://www.chrisbrowndocumentary.com/

[–]Xorg_Xalargsky 412 ポイント413 ポイント  (11子コメント)

What a PR masterpiece.

Here is how I predict the event will be portrayed.

the movie is about the life and career of Chris Brown

show him as a rising star, then enjoying his moment of ultimate achievement

then, the dark side of his success starts catching up, he becomes depressed, starts using drugs, and sinks further down into self-destructiveness

he is shown at the bottom of the barrel, then, the incident is discussed shortly and we get to see a teary-eyed Chris still struggling with what he did

the movie then covers his recovery and his second rise to fame as a better person

[–]birkinbrown 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So true. BET did a documentary on him once and they literally glossed over him assaulting Rihanna. They didn't even mention her name or the incident. Went on to say what an amazing, talented black man he was. I saw red that day.

[–]danny841 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yup. Except he's been kicked out of rehab and his latest criminal altercation was less than a year ago. Also his ex girlfriend is about to testify against him in court. He's never had a single year without a major crime since beating Rihanna.

[–]windowlicker_son 105 ポイント106 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The only thing left for him is to become a preacher, then the circle of degenerate hypocrisy is complete.

[–]VanGrants 209 ポイント210 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Unless his side is "I'm still very sorry and I want to donate asstons of money to domestic abuse charities/organizations" he can fuck right off

[–]Swichts 150 ポイント151 ポイント  (3子コメント)

"Most people don't realize how thick her skull is. I couldn't hold a microphone for a week after I hit her. Truly devastating."

[–]cipher_six 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My hand slipped.

--Chris Brown, probably

[–]SadICantPickUsername 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (0子コメント)

HIS TUMULTUOUS AND MUCH PUBLICIZED RELATIONSHIPS

Hmm. "Tumultuous" and "much publicized" relationships...infuriating how they just ignore the abusive part.

[–]don_majik_juan 218 ポイント219 ポイント  (99子コメント)

Oh, you mean the show that celebrated OJ getting away with murder as a black holiday? Beats me.

[–]goldandguns 757 ポイント758 ポイント  (66子コメント)

I was bartending a nightclub in Honolulu when all this was going on and my boss had for some reason arranged for him to be there; we blocked off 6 VIP booths for him. He barely made it up the stairs, he was booed out of the club, spent less than 30 seconds in the place. It was awesome, but my boss was pissed.

[–]NextedUp 382 ポイント383 ポイント  (52子コメント)

I wish he would still get that treatment anywhere he goes. I can't comprehend how he has a public career still.

[–]SamAdamsGaming 128 ポイント129 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I worked in a theater in Richmond, VA in 2008, and he came to watch a movie a few different times. It surprised me how many co-workers were clamoring to get a look at him, talking about how much they're in love with him, etc. But I get into 1 argument with a female manager, and I'm a horrible person who hates women.

[–]NIN-pig 174 ポイント175 ポイント  (5子コメント)

He's releasing a documentary talking about "his side of the story". Discussing his rise and fall because of this incident. I say fuck him , I don't give a shit what he has to say

[–]BangingABigTheory 408 ポイント409 ポイント  (16子コメント)

For real he needs he should have become the "former singer who beat the shit out of Rihanna" a long ass time ago. Why can't we stop listening and playing his music. He's a piece of shit and he hasn't changed.

[–]Thewingman 276 ポイント277 ポイント  (12子コメント)

I don't think most people really read through the report. I don't think that they understand how brutal this was. And that it was basically going on in a moving vehicle, to boot. If you are beating someone period, you have some anger issues. But if you are driving down the road while beating someone, this is a whole new level of uncontrolled rage.

And I don't think that anyone knew that. If you ask the average person what happened, they just think that he hit her once or twice. Which still absolutely isn't OK in my book. But a lot of people can write that off. I will never support anything that he has even touched. If his name is anywhere near it, count me out. He is absolutely a piece of shit and a terrible human being.

Edit - And another bad part about it is that he shows no remorse, and doesn't even understand why people hate him so much.

[–]6ft_2inch_bat 118 ポイント119 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also the "That was stupid, I'm going to beat the shit out of you when we get home" bit. That is not only uncontrolled rage like you said, but shows some awareness of her actions, the potential consequences of them, and thoughts of actions in the future.

Psychologically, I don't know where that falls into things, but it sounds like there was some thought and awareness there and still he continued to beat her relentlessly in a cruel and vicious manner.

[–]_Fudge_Judgement_ 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know. That picture of her looking like a tenderized steak went pretty thoroughly viral. How could you look at that and think she was only hit once or twice?

[–]MetalHead_Literally 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The photos of Rhianna were everywhere after it happened and they make it very apparent that he beat the shit out of her.

[–]HerbertMcSherbert 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Former singer who tried to kill Rhianna, from the text.

[–]AlbinoWitchHunter 2353 ポイント2354 ポイント  (300子コメント)

What the fuck.... I seriously had no idea it was that bad, how the fuck is that guy still famous?? How can anyone support such a fucking waste of space????

[–]DragoonDM 512 ポイント513 ポイント  (30子コメント)

A good PR team apparently. Another good example of this is the incident where a woman spilled McDonald's coffee on her lap and then sued them for millions of dollars in what was clearly a frivolous lawsuit--or at least that's how most people remember it.

In reality, she suffered third degree burns to her thighs, groin, and buttocks, and required skin grafts (there are photos of her injuries if you feel like looking them up, and have a strong stomach). It took her 2 years to recover and she suffered permanent disfigurement. Moreover, McDonald's had already been warned that their coffee was dangerously hot, but they refused to reduce the temperature. The initial lawsuit only asked for $20,000 to cover medical expenses, but McDonald's refused and counter-offered $800 so the case went to trial instead.

McDonald's did an excellent job smearing her in the media, making it sound like a typical American "slip and fall" style shakedown lawsuit.

[–]AllwaysConfused 89 ポイント90 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've seen those pictures, and even for someone with a strong stomach (unless its snot...gag) those photos were pretty bad.

[–]tarvoplays 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Worse was that she didn't even care about the money, she just wanted them to admit they were wrong and to change the temperature of the coffee so nobody else had to go through the same thing.

[–]zackarhino 120 ポイント121 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, i thought he just punched her in the face, not mercilessly beat her.

[–]GlabadosChurch 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And that is precisely because Brown's people worked very hard to make you think that.

[–]patapatapatapata 977 ポイント978 ポイント  (212子コメント)

I seriously had no idea it was that bad, how the fuck is that guy still famous??

People have memories like goldfish. John Lennon came out and said he hit his GFs in the past and that's why he was all into world peace, and they even wrote a song about it. (Getting Better.) And nobody really brings that up.

[–]Son_of_Warvan 551 ポイント552 ポイント  (131子コメント)

I see it brought up online pretty much anytime somebody praises John Lennon, but I take your point. It doesn't seem to have lessened his appeal any.

[–]Beatleboy62 387 ポイント388 ポイント  (18子コメント)

In all the biographies I've read, it seems to have pretty much been that he punched Cynthia once and then started crying realizing what he had done.

Am I saying that's good? Fuck no. Hitting anyone, let alone your spouse, is an extremely terrible thing, and I felt differently about him when I learned about it, in addition to him pretty much abandoning Julian and Cynthia. But people talk about it like he came home each night and said, "IT'S LENNON TIME" while hitting his wife in the face with a guitar. He was without a doubt a horrible husband and father, I am not denying any of that.

Later in life he understood what he did was wrong and apologized for it. I understand saying "I'm sorry," doesn't make up for what he did, but at least he tried to make up for it and change who he was later in life.

It's different compared to Brown, who I've seen in commercials lately saying "I used to be America's darling but now everyone hates me," like he doesn't understand why.

[–]ManBearPleb 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I didn't imagine him screaming catch phrases while repeatedly beating his wife but I do now and it does soften the blow

[–]AdvocateForTulkas 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If that's literally what happened, a escalating fight between spouses and he hit her once and then apologized profusely? Fuck it. I'll say it aloud. I'd forgive someone who did that. I'd never do it myself, but I'd forgive someone and believe they changed.

I've heard plenty more about Lennon than that though, perhaps I'm misinformed.

[–]richbill 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If that's literally what happened, a escalating fight between spouses and he hit her once and then apologized profusely?

It's true that according to Cynthia it only happend once, not during an argument, but after seeing her talking to another man on a night out. He was always a very jealous guy (...) and admitted as much himself.

Both John and Cynthia talk about it in this soundbite.

[–]JK0807 100 ポイント101 ポイント  (109子コメント)

I agree that it's often brought up on reddit, but outside of that I've never seen anyone talk about it.

[–]GetTheLedPaintOut 142 ポイント143 ポイント  (108子コメント)

Sean Penn, Sean Connery and Johnny Depp are all (confirmed?) abusers.

[–]jlamb42 105 ポイント106 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Sean Penn's is particularly horrible. Won't watch anything he's in.

[–]GoForFive 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (9子コメント)

What is the "(confirmed?)"? Are they not then, or are you just unsure?

[–]ImJLu 117 ポイント118 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not sure about a lot of them but, for example, Johnny Depp was merely accused, and disputed the allegations. Chris Brown pleaded guilty to felony assault.

To equate the two is wildly irresponsible.

[–]blandrogyny 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i think it's because madonna rescinded her statements about sean penn beating her during a defamation suit against lee daniels, but i don't know anyone who doesn't see through that as fake pr bullshit

[–]Dorkamundo 174 ポイント175 ポイント  (16子コメント)

To be fair, a guy who admitted to it in the past and has taken appropriate steps to prevent it in the future is far more appealing to me than Chris fucking Brown.

[–]ronton_soup_ 202 ポイント203 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Not only support, but girls still love and cherish the guy. I do not fucking get it. I think he is the biggest piece of garbage and I honestly am turned off by girls that are still infatuated by him.

[–]Boing_Boing 78 ポイント79 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Why the fuck is she calling her assistant(s) instead of 911??

[–]sp3cial_snowflake 268 ポイント269 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Probably because someone like Rihanna would know that this would be ALL over the media and that was maybe something she wanted to avoid. Getting severely beaten up and throttled by someone you loved is usually not exactly a moment you want to share with the world. And that 911 call would definitely have leaked.

So she called someone she trusted for help. I just find it somewhat sad that apparently the people she trusts in such a moment are her assistants. I totally would have called my mum (or 911 of course, because I'm not famous).

[–]ihaveasmallbladder 120 ポイント121 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She probably knew her assistants were close and she is probably closer with her assistants than almost anyone else

[–]AdvocateForTulkas 112 ポイント113 ポイント  (0子コメント)

At that level of fame her personal assistants are probably people she considers highly competent, trustworthy, and close friends. Just a guess, assistant isn't the same as random employee.

[–]AladdinDaCamel 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's actually pretty common in emergency situations that are life or death for the person to seek help from someone they know first before calling 911

[–]stormhunter1 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I saw the medical pics of Rihanna, it was bad. There's no way it was anything but that description

[–]50PercentLies 789 ポイント790 ポイント  (32子コメント)

Wow she kept her shit together and made a lot of smart moves. I would have just cried and been killed.

[–]kefyras 290 ポイント291 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Calling someone else first, but 911 in this situation was not so smart.

[–]50PercentLies 172 ポイント173 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Tbh he could have reacted much worse if he knew she was on 911 and didn't think it was just her calling her friends, but in a way I agree. Still though. One mistake among many smart choices while having the shit beat out of you

[–]moesif 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Calling someone else and asking then to call 911 seems like a less reliable method with the same result.

[–]spyson 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hard to think when you got punched in the face or getting punched in the face. She even almost got choked out, so I think she did her best in this situation.

[–]drkrelic 677 ポイント678 ポイント  (71子コメント)

Jesus fucking christ! How the hell is this guy still an artist? How tf does this guy still have a proper career? God damn...

[–]NothingsShocking 590 ポイント591 ポイント  (36子コメント)

I remember dumbass women posting in comment sections things like Shit, Chris Brown can beat my ass anytime he wants LOL. That's why he's still famous. Lot of dumbshits in this world.

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 224 ポイント225 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I wonder if they'd feel differently if they saw the text of the police report. I also wonder if that's why Chris Brown's "people" worked so hard to keep the details quiet.

It makes me so sad that someone could do such a thing to another human being and manage to not have his reputation forever ruined :(.

[–]TonyzTone 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I remember speaking to a friend of mine who is well known as the nicest guy you might ever meet. In many ways, that's a true statement of him. We were discussing this whole instance and I was adamant about how Chris Brown is inexcusable. He wanted to stress the point that we don't know the full story and "black women are known to hit first a lot too, so you don't know" (fwiw: my friend is also black).

I honestly didn't know how to respond to that other than to say that it's not an excuse. People genuinely see Rihanna (and other women) as some sort of wild sex trash heap or something that can't possibly not have deserved some of it.

Boggles my mind.

[–]AttackPug 134 ポイント135 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Rule 1 and Rule 2.

Remember when Ceelo pulled some highly wrongful shit and dropped a tab of Ecstasy into somebody's drink? No, you don't, because he fell straight off the map and his whole career evaporated.

But Brown can just do this shit to a woman way more famous than he is, and... it just didn't count.

[–]Syncopayshun 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Oh wow Ceelo so great to see you on TV again"

"Oh yeah Ceelo I'm such a big fan of all your hit song"

Just watched Sarcastaball last night, might rewatch it two times, check that, four times again today.

[–]DiarrheaShitLord 521 ポイント522 ポイント  (85子コメント)

And all he got was community service and like three months of probation. WOW.

edit: 5 years probation my bad

"Brown, 20, will be sentenced to five years probation and 180 days of community labor to be served in Virginia. He will also complete a year of domestic violence classes, and pay fines. In exchange, he pleaded guilty to felony assault by means likely to cause great bodily injury."

[–]StaffSgtDignam 299 ポイント300 ポイント  (76子コメント)

It's fucked up the level of vindication having money and fame can give you.. What I REALLY don't understand is how Rihanna not only forgave him but TOOK HIM BACK. Like wtf, the dude almost killed you and you get back together with him? Makes no sense to me.

[–]360Saturn 128 ポイント129 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's common for abused women to go back to the abuser. They get in your head psychologically. "I've changed, you changed me, I was different then" kinda thing, sometimes alongside "You're broken, only I can love you, I'm willing to forgive you for breaking up with me, I've told all the other guys in the industry xyz about you and no-one really likes you" etc. etc. A threat made worse by the fact they work in the same industry and clearly his career wasn't damaged that much by what he did, suggesting people will believe anything he says.

I hope she has a good team of people looking out for her now who can protect her, mentally as well as physically.

[–]such_a_tiny_danger 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's called the Cycle of Abuse. It is incredibly common in abusive relationships to take the person back, due to the psychology of abuse. You care about this person and they say it won't happen again, they promise they are going to do better. There is a calm that makes you feel like things have changed, then tension starts to build until there is an outburst. Abusive relationships are about power and control, they are very hard to escape.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_abuse

[–]cipher_six 125 ポイント126 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Obligatory.

Can someone just make a bot that posts this video anytime Chris Brown's name is mentioned?

[–]shelleebee 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am so disgusted. This report is so different than what the media put out there, and I felt like their's was still pretty graphic. The fact he is still being paid to do anything makes me physically ill. Also doesn't he have a daughter? Is he allowed to see her??

[–]VROF 87 ポイント88 ポイント  (4子コメント)

How the fuck did Blackish invite him to guest star? This guy is an actual piece of shit

[–]Besnasty 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I love the show, but his guest spot made me so mad. It has done such a great job of addressing issues involving race and that episode could have been another great storyline, but they fucked up with his casting.

[–]TripleOGeg 268 ポイント269 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Looks like kidnap and what we call Grevious Bodily Harm in the UK.

He'd be doing 10 years minimum.

[–]JohnHwagi 215 ポイント216 ポイント  (10子コメント)

He would have got the same, or more, if he was a regular person here. It's despicable how celebrities can end up just paying a fine and an army of lawyers, and essentially get away with whatever they do.

[–]tsaoutofourpants 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Not in most places. In NYC, for example, there would be a max penalty of 7 years and it is unlikely he'd serve even 1.

[–]ssweens11321/M/S 139 ポイント140 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow I never heard or saw this before. I didn't realize he nearly killed her. Now I'm mad he got off so easy.

[–]office_procrastinate 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You know what's funny? He came to volunteer at our food pantry for his community service hours.

Just for context, I worked a small church in brooklyn with two lesbian pastors. When I heard that he wanted to come to volunteer I said, "NO FUCKING WAY," but my pastors were really big into the idea of a person "redeeming themselves" so they allowed him to come.

He came, but, not really...

He didn't actually show up, it was actually his fan group "Team Breezy," his mom, and her bodyguards. He never actually showed up and so his group did the community service. My pastors (being pastors) were pretty quick to forgive. I'm still bitter.

[–]mukkalukka22 121 ポイント122 ポイント  (5子コメント)

This never gets easier to read. I remember when I saw her preform her song Stay on SNL a few years after this happened and I could see the scar on her lips from his rampage. It was such a heart wrenching moment. I cannot imagine what she has been through. Don't let the bastards get you down. ❤️ https://youtu.be/C-dW7z0QBNg

[–]whalesauce 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Nobody will believe this and that's okay, but around 2007-2008 Chris performed a show at a club where I live. After the show he was off in the vip area, standard vip area. Lots of bottles, his crew everywhere, a couple girls etc... anyways my girlfriend of 3-4 months walks by this area with me and we ask him for an autograph. He looked at me started laughing, leaned in said something to my girl I couldn't hear and then opened the rope line thing. Let her in and stopped me and told me to GTFO. As soon as he said that bouncers were all around me and escorted me out the door.

I never heard from her again. So fuck Chris Brown for that as well.

[–]Saltynutsinyourmouth 176 ポイント177 ポイント  (52子コメント)

how you gonna cheat when you already got Rihanna???

[–]gnarbucketz 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (8子コメント)

To quote the old adage:
"What's better than the hottest pussy in the world?"
"Different pussy."

EDIT: this is not an idea I subscribe to. Just something I've heard in my Earthly travels.

[–]proquo 108 ポイント109 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Oftentimes when men cheat it's not about attractiveness. It's about getting something they feel they aren't getting at home. In the case of the rich and powerful sometimes it's a feeling of immunity that causes them to make decisions they wouldn't make if they felt they would face consequences.

[–]tywhy87 166 ポイント167 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Or when they're narcissistic and don't think of women as people, it's about sexual conquests that they feel they deserve and/or because they think that just another hot encounter under their belt will make them happy, but it won't.

[–]bleeperopni 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, the same thing qualifies for women lol.

[–]Tartra 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Jesus FUCKING Christ! I had no idea it was this severe - I definitely saw a picture and realized she'd been given a black eye and a bloodied lip, but this is such an extensive explaination of what happened and I'm blown away that I never knew.

[–]swigglydoo 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Every time someone jokes about Rihanna getting beaten by CB, I cringe. I can't imagine why people still support him, love him, after what he did.

Yes, let's joke about a woman being beaten to death, ha! Ha! Happened so long ago, doesn't matter!!1!1!

Yeah, it fuckin does. What if that was your mom, sister, or grandma being beaten near death, and people were joking about it. Disgusting.

[–]123bpd 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (1子コメント)

To me it's unfortunate that for some people you really have to draw a comparison to the same situation happening to their female relatives for them to understand its severity. Like, a concept: women (just like men!) deserve to be treated with respect, whether you're related to them or not.

[–]stabbinU 118 ポイント119 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Here's some of the original stuff. It's been public information for quite a long time.

Page 1 https://i.imgur.com/tkn5mUE.png

Page 2 https://i.imgur.com/hs2itjM.png

Page 3 https://i.imgur.com/5sPbpvA.png

Page 4 https://i.imgur.com/cAcIFrw.png

As a moderator of several defaults, it's incredibly common to nuke threads. The explanation from the moderator makes sense. Removing hate speech is commonly done through nuking threads, rather than reading every single comment.

Edit: Fixed "page 2" image. Replied to clarify that I'm not seeing any hate speech in the 30+ screenshots; looks like some bizarre censorship to me.

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Check the imgur album of every comment in the thread; there wasn't any hate speech from what I can see.

[–]stabbinU 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Since I got myself into this, I just want to say - I scanned every single image, and you are right. Assuming the removed comments were in the screenshots, the moderators made a huge mistake. This looks like it could be an obvious and clumsy cover-up, but I have no clue what it's in aid of.

And to think, they could've said they removed comments for containing "graphic and personal information involving an assault victim" - it looks like they may have used a BS, almost "canned" response.

(Sorry for not looking at the comments first! I don't think there's any way the moderator team can exonerate themselves from this, so many years after the fact.)

People are fucking weird. Poor Rihanna, Chris Brown is a fucking monster.

[–]Reutermo 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yea, all those "Rihanna beating jokes" was never funny. It was some vile shit he did and it is an easy place for edge lords to go an joke about.

[–]Dementedumlauts 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is no one gonna mention that the founder of Imgur decided to be part of censoring this back in the day? Talk about a shitty TIL

[–]WeagleyBeagley 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn... that's some next level rage. I don't think I ever heard that it was this bad. In some of the other recently publicized domestic violence cases involving well-known people, it's been like one hit and done due to the victim being unconsciousness. This was a savage beating.

[–]dammitesme 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I really hope this gets out there and ruins his reputation. He doesn't deserve any fame and glory.

[–]mummytheloveheart 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's been out there for ages. And he's seemingly not lost any fame or glory. He didn't even do all his paltry community service iirc.

[–]JeremyBloodyClarkson 1519 ポイント1520 ポイント  (50子コメント)

Wtf is this one message a day shit? This isn't 1920, we have cell phones for a reason.

[–]AR-47 139 ポイント140 ポイント  (7子コメント)

  1. Girl doesn't want to look eager. Waits to respond.

  2. Dude matches to avoid looking eager too.

  3. Repeat.

[–]PerplexGG 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Ever use a halfway attractive girl's tinder? They turn off their notifications cause they match with every single person they swipe right on. So they'll hop on at night and weed through the 5,000 "Hey"s and respond to people who put more than a seconds thought into the message. Guys are more obsessed with not trying to seem to eager than girls because they actually are too eager. Girls on tinder are just legitimately not eager. Why would you be when you have no lack of matches or messages?

[–]cgcr214 380 ポイント381 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I don't have notifications set for the app and only get on at night

[–]classyivan 159 ポイント160 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sometimes it happens. For me it's every goddamn time. Be more attractive

[–]thecody17 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It took him that long to think of the reply

[–]Hawezo 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like they open Tinder only in the evening, maybe after work

[–]lexstrong 229 ポイント230 ポイント  (26子コメント)

why did it take over 24 hours to come up with that?

[–]spanishgalacian 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You never have those days where you don't want to talk to anyone and you don't care about replying to some girl on tinder?

[–]Snack_on_my_Flapjack 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And yet he's still an icon who is adored by kids and adults alike, still making tons of money and selling shows out left and right. Dude should be rotting behind bars.

[–]Why-not-the-Jackal 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck this piece of shit. I swear some people are literally incapable of feeling shame or guilt. How's he still performing? How does he still have all this fan support? I was still in high school when this happened and I swear, everybody was saying "yeah that bitch gave him a std. Std is so much worse than a black eye, so she deserved it!"