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[–]JesusRox77 163 ポイント164 ポイント  (23子コメント)

I would have 100% pulled a Crystal LaBeija if I was Shea

[–]anusthing 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (17子コメント)

I have seen some MELTDOWNS at balls and this would absolutely be worth it if the girls didn't default to kumbaya nonsense and clapped back on stage. Alas, we know it'll be all "we're all winners!" and "I love my sistren!" once the episode airs.

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Maybe there's some good undertones of salt in the reunion?

[–]anusthing 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hopefully? Hopefully! If Shea and Trinity manage to come across without any upset or annoyance at all that just proves they are actresses enough to have been properly crowned.

[–]SplurgyA 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Flipside: since they're airing the post-finale reunion before the finale, they might try and edit out anything that would tip us off to the result. Not that it matters to people who are reading spoilers, but if Shea and Trinity are reading as really pissed off it might tip off the wider viewing audience.

[–]yourdadsbff 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (3子コメント)

undertones of salt

great drag queen memoir title

[–]anusthing 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Salinity & Trinity: Undertones of Salt in Rupaul's Drag Race Season 9 Reunion is my rhetoric final

[–]yourdadsbff 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fulbright scholarship here we come

[–]shemague 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ugh..WHY would you do that to your poor teacher ;)

[–]bbrisba 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm really looking forward to Sasha's next gig in Chicago.

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, they need revolutionising. They don't know what weird drag is but Sasha will show them... She better check her powder for broken glass first though.

[–]Miss. Bitch, signing off.anyanerves 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno if it's just me but I'm an extremely dramatic Chicago gay who gets drunk often so unless she wants me to throw tweezers at her ass maybe she should stay away for a while.

[–]leonoretta 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do we know for sure if the reunion was filmed before or after the finale taping?

[–]anusthing 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Filmed after but airing before.

[–]RuPaul's Moral Character Racekrammebamse 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh god really?? I'm not ready to be slayed by the aura of sheer despair that Shea is certain to emanate. And if Sasha comes off the least bit smug, that "magical" bitch better get ready to get cRUcified up in here.

edit: reunion taping T

[–]singingpottet 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Did you see her make up? It was TERRIBLE!!!!

Don't you dare, Trinity is a friend of mine Dwarling! Trinity told me not to go she said "Shea Dwarling don't gyow" evreyone knew it was rigged that's why non of the true beauties came!

And when she was asked why she wanted the money "to buy some art hahahaha" Ru ain't giving her any money!!!!

She betta get her ass back to New York !

[–]anusthing 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We need a queen like this. Why don't we have a queen like this. Aja should have been a queen like this.

[–]singingpottet 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm the queen like this Dwarling

[–]hate always, captain steve xxxapparatus86 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gurl I want stories.

[–]yourdadsbff 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

[–]JesusRox77 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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[–]yourdadsbff 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

crystal lebeija was number fourth in the voting, i could not believe it

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[–]Tyra Sanchez apologisttrauerlied 140 ポイント141 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Shea has had a horrible year, and this bullshit just feels like another punch to her.

[–]DanDelta100 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh my god True, Now im even Angrier

[–]AJLighty 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is the worst part of it for me. She's probably been thinking in her head that at least she got something positive out of the last year. What a kick in the teeth.

[–]/r/RPDRDRAMA is my safe spacetemperamentalfish 133 ポイント134 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Can you imagine being so fucking sure you're gonna win for a whole year, then the season airs and you get a 100% winner's edit, you're doing great and then this shit happens. I legitimately feel sorry for Shea, even though I kind of hoped Trinity would win.

[–]AnAudaciousGay 75 ポイント76 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Well if it had come down to the two of them and Trinity had won over Shea, it would've stung less, because they were obviously both hungry for that crown and they both slayed. Shea will be gracious and humble about it no matter what, because she's a goddamn professional, but damn it really sucks.

I didn't realize how invested I was in this season until this bullshit. Which is probably exactly the reaction the shady producers are hoping for with this stunt.

[–]🐍KATHY🐍oath2order 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (4子コメント)

And at least the case could be made for Trinity winning. 3 wins compared to 4 would have still caused drama over the robbery but at least she actually won a good chunk of challenges

[–]AnAudaciousGay 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Exactly. In the wake of any season there's always some salty fans that will say "X was robbed" but before now it's usually been more of an understanding that "I get why X won, but Y was better imo."

This time it's different. I feel a little bad for whichever one is crowned, because they'll always be called undeserving by a large chunk of the fans, and tbh while I would've accepted a Trinity win and been comfortable with it, I'm now fully prepared to be one of those messy fans screaming Shea was robbed for eternity.

[–]dramarealness 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

No this will help my messy ass sleep at night that both of them will go down in history for the most undeserving top 2 in herstory...

[–]AnAudaciousGay 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean... I hope you're right. Eventually I think a lot of people will just accept it and I predict a lot of reaching and warped logic justifying whoever wins. But Imma be a salty bitch forever.

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

salty bitch forever.

you are not the only one.

[–]slashflingingslasher 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well they give them time to prepare for that LSFYL finale battle and explain it to them so I'm pretty sure the thought mustve crossed Shea at some point.

[–]as a PoV (Person of Velour),bengarth 110 ポイント111 ポイント  (21子コメント)

This is the look of "I guess it's a good thing I spent all that time writing jokes for her during our partner challenges... Fucking bitch"

[–]crackischeap 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Did this really happen or are we just pretending it did because circlejerk?

[–]leave me provoloneLanaDeliTray 110 ポイント111 ポイント  (1子コメント)

from "omg Sashea!" to "SHEA CARRIED THAT BITCH" reaaaaal quick

[–]🐍KATHY🐍oath2order 61 ポイント62 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm glad the Sashea crap is done

[–]heredawg 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (16子コメント)

We like to pretend Sasha doesn't deserve anything and she was bottom 3 every week.

[–]RuPaulsBrandRace 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Girl, fans stanned harder for Sasha than anyone else since Valentina left. Let's not pretend that she's this sad queen that should have won every challenge and deserves to be crowned.

So many people are saying, "well Ru decided this so it's what should happen" in regards to the finale. If that's the case, then the wins and losses of the rest of the season were also ok because Ru decided those too.

[–]Bukharin from Financerifoist 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Everyone jumped from Val to Trinity so no.

[–]Sickening_No 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair everyone was jumping onto whoever won that week. That's how most fans work, they just want to root for the winner.

[–]abernattine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

they jumped from Val to Trinity to Sasha. still not what i meant when i told them hoes to JUMP.

[–]hate always, captain steve xxxapparatus86 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know, like Peppermint.

[–]SLEEP WELL WHORELetItBro 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The real t is just how shellshocked trinity looks as well

[–]as a PoV (Person of Velour),bengarth 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It looks like everyone on stage is super disappointed, as they should be.

[–]SLEEP WELL WHORELetItBro 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm trying not to comment too much until I actually see this shitshow happen. I don't want to be too messy, even over blatant robbery.

[–]🐍KATHY🐍oath2order 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (3子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/Yv0lBVe.png

A closer look for reference

Yeah she's not happy.

Neither is golden-dress

[–]chanklor 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know. cucu deserved that crown

[–]abernattine 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

she thought she was gonna be the first person to win MC 2 years in a row

[–]"my bussy had it coming"mrcolon96 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn Cynthia looks divine

[–]vegaboe 75 ポイント76 ポイント  (31子コメント)

Honestly this breaks my heart. Shea worked so hard and served it to us almost every week

[–]DornishMasterPlan 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (25子コメント)

I'm basking in schadenfreude. I always felt like Shea overproduced herself on the show (especially with her constant praising of Nina which felt forced and mostly as an act to look good) so this feels kind of... just?

I think this whole final top 4 twist and the finale antics are a reaction by the production and Ru to stir up drama after a lackluster season with little drama due to the queens overproducing themselves so much. This ain't RuPaul's Best Friend Race. It is reality TV after all and the show has never been shy to resort to bs and Rigga Morris just to get views and people talking.

[–]slashflingingslasher 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Most of us on here(like around 90% of these bottoms) know the twist. After seeing the episode and knowing the twist Imma feel really bad for Shea and how much a damn fool she's gonna look for saying the crown is hers just like Detox did on both seasons. From the evidence I've collected on here it seems like Shea didn't put much work on the lip synch and unlike the other 3 didn't even have a reveal/gag. IMO she lost because she was over confident in her scores on the season just like how Valentina thought she'd stay based on how they ate her up every single damn time she was on that stage. If this is ever close to the truth..good. They have to find a way to make everyone stop over producing themselves. I always thought Shea and Alexis over produced themselves to the point where they did seem ingenuine and I could see why Nina thought she was fake.

[–]DornishMasterPlan 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (6子コメント)

From the evidence I've collected on here it seems like Shea didn't put much work on the lip synch and unlike the other 3 didn't even have a reveal/gag

Yup. At first I was slightly annoyed by the lip-sync reveal but reading a bit more on the actual performances and it seems like Sasha really turned it out and Shea might have been underestimating her. Same with Peppermint and Trinity. I really wanted Trinity to win and if not Shea, but if the T being spilled recently is true then I am completely fine with Sasha or Peppermint winning for being cutthroat on the stage and not holding back. All this final twist does is add another final hurdle for the competitors to prove their worth and if they can't turn it out, no matter how pristine their record is, then that's their own damn fault.

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It is not their own damn fault. The structural change was clearly revealed to them later, as their confessionals have zero hints of what's to come. The finale got (apparently) moved around, the evidence being it was in a small theatre in Glendale. I think a few things have been up in the air about the finale.

None of these girls are bad lipsyncers.

Pepp and Sasha have an advantage because it's the area they are very best at. Every queen has her strength and weaknesses. Have a runway and watch Pepp come last. I defy any queen to beat Pepp (and apparently Sasha) at this particular task.

The idea that these brackets were put together fairly is ridiculous, frankly. The two lowest-achieving queens should have been lipsyncing against each other first, to even get the chance to knock out the highest achieving queens (Trin and Shea). Track record should have affected bracket placement.

[–]Sickening_No 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think Trinity is WAY better at lipsyncing than Peppermint. She is way funnier and dancy but not in an old, drunk dad way like Pep. So I don't really think it was all rigga. Maybe in a few weeks when your ass fracture has healed you will see.

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The dr says it's going to scar for life.

[–]abernattine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

don't even waste the effort girl. it's just the newest in a long line of arguments meant to discredit Shea as a viable winner/frontrunner on the show/drag queen in general.

[–]Gamer10123 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's still a fucking stupid "twist." Quite frankly, I don't give a damn if Sasha and Peppermint won one fucking lipsync in the finale against Shea and Trinity. What was the point of them already proving themselves as the deserving Top 2 in a season's worth of challenges that tested a variety of skills to have one lipsync be the only thing that matters to be crowned the winner? It's just ridiculous, and it sends a message that it'll be totally okay to coast your way to the Top 4 and turn out one lipsync to win the entire competition. Even the earlier Top 2 lipsyncs seemed just more like a formality rather than an actual deathmatch considering the queen with the better track record was still always crowned. Raven seemed to do a tad better than Chad in the AS1 finale lipsync, but Chad still deservingly won.

[–]Bukharin from Financerifoist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Top 2 lip sync for the crown would be great. But starting with a top 4 with variations of season performance between them is woeful.

[–]Gamer10123 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

After seeing the episode and knowing the twist Imma feel really bad for Shea and how much a damn fool she's gonna look for saying the crown is hers just like Detox did on both seasons.

Except she's not going to look like a fool because unlike Detox, she actually was the obvious winner who did deserve it. The people who look like idiots are RuPaul and the producers for this straight up mess of a "twist."

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Detox wasn't exactly made to look a fool and that's where the difference lies, I think. She was underperforming and getting called out for that all along, and her departure, when it happened, felt right even though she was my winner pick based on Ep1. Shea has been left hanging, massively, by the show.

[–]iz favrik...sailorxsaturn 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

From what I collected she did well, but slipped on a prop Sasha used and Sasha was basically having a once in a lifetime performance (bc if it's as good as everyone is saying than its 100x better than her lives which are.....something)

[–]Ravenna39 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I agree that she seemed overproduced, and to an extent overly diplomatic (in a calculated manner), every time she spoke during the show. I respect her for being able to keep it together in such a high pressure situation. I followed some of her work before she was announced as being on the show... it didn't fully seem like her normal personality was shown when she was on the show.

That having been said, I always felt like her pep talks to Nina were genuine. They just felt sincere to me. I don't know Shea as a person, so I could be wrong.

It still sucks to see this happen to her, there's very few Queens I would wish this level of disappointment on. Fortunately, she seems like a very emotionally resilient person and I'm also confident that her career will be fine after her strong showing during S9.

[–]SplurgyA 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I always felt like her pep talks to Nina were genuine. They just felt sincere to me. I don't know Shea as a person, so I could be wrong.

Nina did say that the pep talks only happened when there was a camera around to catch it, but also Nina does seem paranoid. I'm inclined to think that there's a modicum of truth to both sides - Shea did genuinely mean everything she said to Nina and does seem to really care for her, but maybe waited to have a camera on her in order to deliver the pep talks. That's still genuine, but it's also being produced.

I also think it's possible that Shea may have vented off camera and the producers could have told Nina. That's also not disingenuous - because being supportive can be difficult and it's ok to vent, and people can vent about their friends without wanting their friends to hear - but it would explain a lot.

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think Shea did use Nina as a kind of storyline. But then I have paranoid Nina thinking myself. At any rate, Shea failing to or choosing not to read that Nina wasn't into it is the part that irritates me.

It doesn't mean she deserves her crown taken away. Let's face it, Sasha is a hot likelihood here and she's done some woeful things during the show, like attempting to guilt trip Eureka, and putting all the other queens down to their faces by being patronising about how revolutionary she is compared to them.

[–]SplurgyA 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I guess the real issue is that because the show is heavily produced and edited, we never really know what exactly went down and how it was directed. I still have a slight suspicion that after Nina pep talk #237 that the producers might have been encouraging the queens to bring it up with her again, for the sake of good television/conflict/drama (over Nina being quietly depressed in a corner while the other girls best friend race'd).

I'm not sure that reading of Eureka is entirely justified (and a lot of alt/"art" queens big themselves up as being revolutionary and the future of drag without specifically meaning it as a barb) but I'm starting to suspect that the finale results were more of an accident than a planned result to deprive Shea of the crown.

Sudden death adds an element of excitement to the finale that was sorely lacking in S8, and production was banking on Shea/Trinity winning, but the ruveals and the ensuing audience reaction threw a spanner in the works.

[–]DornishMasterPlan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sudden death adds an element of excitement to the finale that was sorely lacking in S8, and production was banking on Shea/Trinity winning, but the ruveals and the ensuing audience reaction threw a spanner in the works.

This has been apparent to me (for this season at least). The show always tries to nudge things a certain way but is fair in that it's more than willing to change if a new situation forces the to steer course. Like you I don't think the intention was to rob Shea and Trinity at all but they just both under-performed compared to Sasha and Peppermint that they couldn't choose them as the winner especially when they had a live audience praising Sasha and Peppermint after their performances.

[–]SplurgyA 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah IMO it's kinda like the Valentina situation - I think the show had been trying to get Nina sent home via Valentina, but Valentina's refusal to remove the mask and lacklustre performance overall completely derailed the storyline.

[–]Anti Messy-twink RevolutionaryDigital_Dionysus 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, they paired up Sasha and Shea, and in theory, it would've handed Shea her ticket into the top 2, but after the lipsync they just couldn't justify it.

[–]succulentils 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nina did say that the pep talks only happened when there was a camera around to catch it

The queens literally aren't allowed to talk to each other (they're "on ice") unless there are cameras around to catch it.

[–]SplurgyA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think she meant if the cameras were focusing elsewhere in the room. Sorta like how some of the queens said Max behaved very differently when there wasn't a camera around to catch it.

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shea overproduced herself on the show (especially with her constant praising of Nina which felt forced and mostly as an act to look good)

Yes to all of that, but that is the SHOW's fault. Just like they gave Sasha a platform to pontificate without ever pulling her up for being all-talk-little-action, they let queens like Shea, Eureka and Farrah run with this self-production. They used to break queens down (remember Laganja?) but now they seem to run with it, cut it into the story, give it central airtime. It's fucking the show up bigtime.

But the show's failings should not equate to punishing the two queens who achieved the most. Consider Trinity: she gave her all as a queen and a reality show contestant. The show set Shea up to look and sound like a winner - not only did they reduce her chances considerably at the last minute, but they have embarrassed her by focusing on soundbites where she said she was taking the crown. The show have been assholes to her and looking for one slight in order to justify it is shitty.

[–]RuPaul's Moral Character Racekrammebamse 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Excellent, excellent points. Eureka did an obscene amount of self-production, and they rewarded her with 50% of the screentime in the first episode. In no way, shape or form should Shea or Trinity be punished when stuff like that was going on. In fact I think Shea and Trinity were pretty great at being authentic despite the hyper-self-awareness we're now seeing with RPDR.

[–]Gamer10123 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am so sick of this argument against Shea, to be honest. Yes, she did come across a little bit overproduced, but literally almost all of them did. You're telling me Sasha and Trinity weren't just as hyperaware of how they were perceived? I like Trinity a lot, and she is charming, but she was not that much more "real" than Shea was even though people act like she was. She was spouting a ton of positivity bullshit throughout the season as well. When she was telling Nina "you never know--you could stay over Shea!" when it was her third time in the bottom, when she totally appeased Alexis by telling her that she liked her look because "it was 'her'" after Alexis bagged Trinity's look, etc. The queens overproducing themselves is not something unique to Shea. And I do think Shea trying to comfort Nina was at least in part due to her relating to her on some level--Shea said she used to have similar issues.

Either way, it doesn't change the fact that Shea legitimately performed the best in the challenges and on the runway and is the true deserving winner.

[–]SplurgyA 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your perspective is the most dramatic one so I'm going to choose to side with it. Certainly I'll actually be watching this finale now, which is not something I could say about the Season 8 finale.

[–]You be the microwave, I'll be the popcorn. Pop me. Bust me upInaIloperidoneberry 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

100% agreed. If I didn't know better I'd guess the producers were telling her to bond with Nina for a storyline.

[–]Sickening_No 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

But can't you see this is the drama of the century? Thousands of twinks are enraged all around the globe claiming justice for Shea. This will be like "the martyr" and she will have a huge rudemption in the future (if Shea decides to continue making good tv).

She really deserves the attention and the love she's getting, and it's something way bigger than the crown. She could get her own later too, you know. wink

[–]abernattine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

let's just hope they don't pul a last minute twist during her AS season when people inevitably bitch about Shea being an "obvious winner" to that season.

[–]Sickening_No 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well that would make her the Robbed QueenTM of RPDR and that is a good brand. Raven makes a living from that and she wasn't even robbed.

[–]abernattine 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Raven really is the Ryan Lochte of Drag isn't she?

[–]You be the microwave, I'll be the popcorn. Pop me. Bust me upInaIloperidoneberry 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So did everyone else up there (besides Peppermint). Shea came off as fake and "playing the game" to me. Plus her lack of oufit variety. At least Trinity finally wore a dress.

[–]kerihanki 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (40子コメント)

I'm gonna be that bitch and say that this proves there is no point in black queens signing up for drag race. The mental gymnastics that Mr Clean stans do to justify this stunt is fascinating

[–]JesusRox77 75 ポイント76 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Every single black queen that has won has had a large amount of people trying to discredit them. Nina should have won over Bebe, Raven should have won over Tyra, Bob was "predictable and boring" so Kim Chi should have won, and now Shea's style is "boring and predictable" and Sasha is "brainy" so she should have won. This and the amount of racial slurs that Kennedy, Jasmine, Nina Bo'Nina, Tyra had to face shows exactly how much the drag race fandom is against black queens.

[–]minase8888 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (4子コメント)

There will always be people not happy with the outcome. Manila should have won over Raja and Chad over Sharon were also popular opinions at the time. Don't forget Raven should have won AS1 too.. Won't defend racial slurs at all, just saying that perhaps it's not the skin color they attack. They are mostly just stans of whoever came in 2nd or 3rd.

[–]slashflingingslasher 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Idk why youre being downvoted to hell. Its not just a black queen thing. All winners face backlash no matter what. Youre right about everything. If anything I find the argument still tired. People say Manila/Alexis(both POC) should bave won over Raja(who is also a POC) and same for the Bob thing. Kim and Noami are also both POC. The Raven argument is stupid,the crown was clearly Tyras. Racial slurs shouldn't be defended and that is the only thing I agree with, it is disgusting how much the black queens are directly called racial slurs,THAT needs to change.

[–]hate always, captain steve xxxapparatus86 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, Christ, have you seen how many people hate Violet on this sub? She's cold, she's boring, she's this and that. I can't help but roll my eyes when arguments like these come up and the sub from a gaggle of drama starved bitches suddenly turns into flag waving, empathetic kumbaya playing circle of love.

[–]searchshadow 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Let's not forget about the Katya vs Alaska shitstorm

[–]"my bussy had it coming"mrcolon96 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like that happened 6 years ago.

[–]mathchem 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Like how Kennedy deserved top4 instead of Pearl and the crown instead of Violet?

All winners suffer from backlash from the stans of other runner ups, no exception. Kim chi herself said it was better that she hadn't won because "everybody would say that I didn't deserve". Sure people are extreme and especially now more than ever, due to how big the show fanbase is, racism sucks and should be exposed for public shaming, but don't pull the special snowflake card please, these Queens are too fucking fierce to need that

[–]JesusRox77 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Im sorry you feel that a discussion over racism is pulling the "special snowflake card" I guess I go back to being a cuck and crying in my safe space in college

[–]slashflingingslasher 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you're talking about a. Black queens being treated unfairly by the fans, you're right about that.

OR B. Saying people hate black winners JUST BECAUSE they're black..no.

If its a. youre doing it right. If its b. get on somewhere else.

[–]mathchem 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

People are mad about the twist that apparently made Shea lost, yet people wanted a twist on the formula.

People proceed to call racism on the twist - made by RuPaul herself - against Shea, then asking to crown Trinity. Said people claim another black queen, peppermint, has no right to the crown due to a made-up "point system"

See the problem here?

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

People are mad about the twist

yet people wanted a twist on the formula.

They're not the same "people". Don't you get it?

[–]mathchem 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

my head is fine, thanks. Guess it's all a problem of vocal minority

[–]Bukharin from Financerifoist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

An acceptable twist would be top 2 lipsyncing for the crown. Not 4 to 2 to 1.

[–]DAE Sasha 4 the crown?!?!matthewfrota 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And I hate that even when confronted with facts that supported their wins they still get discredited.

I'm the first to say that just about nothing in Shea's drag impresses me but the bitch had four wins and each and every one of them was deserved. The mainsub hivemind in two days has shifted to try to justify Sasha's victory and that's counting the Shea flairs. Jesus H Christ people admit that it's a bullshit stunt and call it out if necessary.

[–]You be the microwave, I'll be the popcorn. Pop me. Bust me upInaIloperidoneberry 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sharon, Raja, Bianca (and debtedly Violet) were all extremely strong winners. The producers choose boring ass black queens like Shea over 3-dimensional black queens like Nina (who is better than anyone in the top 4) for God knows why.

[–]SandMonsterSays 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (4子コメント)

This better be setting up Peppermint to win. I am not here for Caillou's coronation.

[–]jaypkay93 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Mr Clean and now Caillou, you are both killing me

[–]onerousoomph 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like how in German Mr Clean is called Meister Sauber.

[–]Xtremlysean 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm right here rotting with you

[–]RuPaulsBrandRace 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (7子コメント)

People did not get mad that Sharon won. People did not get mad that Jinkxx won. People did not get mad that Bianca won. People did not get mad that Violet won.

People got mad that Bob won. People got mad that Shea was going to win. Prior to Bob and Naomi Smalls, we went five entire seasons without a single black queen in the top 3. To act like there's not some racist fuckery from the gay community is like denying that homophobia exists within colored communities. I ain't even black but the saying is true: you gotta work twice as hard to get half as far. It's fucked up.

I legitimately can't imagine the level of outrage there would be if Sasha had won 4 challenges this season and Shea only won 2 as a partner while doing less well throughout the competition, only to win based off of a last minute lip sync.

[–]foresin 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I agree with all of them except Violet. That poor young boy got so many hate (and still gets it). She did so much amazing stuff after her season which made the backlash a bit less but still... everyone HATED Violet

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sasha's about to set her free...

[–]BrokeWhoregan[🍰] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I distinctly remember people losing their fucking mind over Jinkx winning too, she was the fan fave up until the last episode when everyone switched to Alaska kind of out of nowhere, and then the entire main sub burned down over her not getting the crown. I remember it because I must have missed the memo that we were all switching to Alaska and was super confused when I checked the sub that night, haha.

Also some people were mad about Bianca too, at the time. I think it's generally accepted now that she deserved it but at the time the fan votes were neck and neck, Adore was over her some days. People REALLY loved Adore and tried really hard to come up with a way to justify her win over Bianca.

[–]Lesbian Gay Brony Transponytedsmitts -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I still hate Violet tbqh

[–]rlyashley 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (1子コメント)

the main sub would literally be calling shea a monkey right now if the situation was reversed, there's no doubt in my mind about it.

[–]abernattine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

that's what pisses me off the most. all the people that have been discrediting everything Shea has done for the entire season is getting vindicated by this bullshit.

[–]vegaboe 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Black people has to work harder to get the same appreciation and recognition as whites and it fucking SUCKS, especially in this competition where the stakes are already high

[–]iz favrik...sailorxsaturn 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's so much easier for them to quickly discredit everything she did during the season to justify a Sasha win based on literally one lip sync. Like 100% if this happened in s4 and Sharon was thrashed I don't think it would be close to being this bad, the antiblackness in this fandom is ridiculous

[–]DAMusIcmANc 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed, I still love the main sub but I know for a fact had Bianca did so great on her season only to have it come down to a mysterious lipsync freestyle with Darienne and lose all hell would break loose.

[–]Robbery, rigga morris and tomfooleryglacieux 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

MR CLEAN STANS I CANT

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're killing me.

[–]MatronneGeorgia 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (1子コメント)

#ForeverBitter

[–]Biancadeltaco_ 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Don't get bitter get Better!"

Jk but I know how you feel girl but it's RuPaul's show and she fucked it up, Jasmine was right all along Rupaul's Drag Race has fucked up drag!

[–]Ravenna39 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I enjoy Shea's sense of style, but that Julius Caesar wig has got to go. I have an irrational hatred for that thing, much like Sasha's weird hideous half wig she was wearing in the "Category Is" performance. I know that wasn't the point of this post, at least I don't think it was.

[–]leave me provoloneLanaDeliTray 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

i liked it on Sasha for the Teets and Assky pilot but otherwise it's... not a great look lol

[–]nivora 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

she wear that thing 3 times in half a season it is a hate crime

[–]slashflingingslasher 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think its a wig everyone can rock. Maybe Farrah or Courtney but other than that I also hate it because it looks so boyish on Shea and Sasha and makes them look like Manny MUA which isnt a good thing

[–]serialflamingo 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate it when Raven wears the Friar Tuck wigs too.

[–]FarrahClones 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Imagine winning 4 challenges and the bitch that had only shared wins (with you no less) ends up getting the crown. I would be fucking pissed. At least nowadays it's more profitable to lose Drag Race and be "robbed", then win it, so at least Shea will now benefit from the robbed status along with Trinity, which earns them an AS spot. I wouldn't want to be in Peppermint or Sasha's place, because now they'll be known as the winner with the worst track record.

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[–]Ravenna39 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Speaking of drama, someone commented in one of the huge finale taping Mega threads, that this picture was taken from the point of view where Manny MUA and Jeffree Star were sitting. Well they called Manny MUA something like the "guy who always wears black t-shirts and beats his face and hangs around with Jeffree Star".

I can't find the comment now, large comment threads don't do well on the app on my phone. But that would be a real Gagarini, especially if one of them got called out about it considering they're both huge drama vortexes (vortices?)

ETA: someone who was there mentioned not seeing Jeffree Star. I could have misread the original comment that I'm referring to and they may have only mentioned Jeffree in the context of trying to explain who Manny mua is. I apologize for that, I'm not going to edit my comment above but I figured I should post this addendum.

[–]Don't talk to me unless you've watched all of season 3s UntuckedTime_to_Drink 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Vortices

[–]Pondy is the coolesteskimowifi 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

orifices

[–]Don't talk to me unless you've watched all of season 3s UntuckedTime_to_Drink 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just shut up and put it in me

[–]Tgrunin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This does look like where the youtubers were sitting but I didn't see Jeffree star there.

[–]Ravenna39 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I could have misread the comment, with all the "hype and Glory" going on....they may have only mentioned Jeffree Star in trying to describe who Manny MUA is.

[–]Pondy is the coolesteskimowifi 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Cucu actually looks good here, love the lego wig

[–]DornishMasterPlan 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah she legit looks amazing. I've seen a few photos of her finale look and I wish she'd have this kind of polished style back during the actual season.

[–]dingus-pringus 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She looks good because someone else made the styling decisions.

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[–]Gamer10123 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even Bob is looking at Shea like "Gurl, what the fuck." This is a fucking joke, and all the queens know it.

[–]kristal010 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

nina bonina brown bitter betty windex laugh

[–]prison, honeythebestdaysofmyflerm 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This has nothing to do with this sub, but werk.

[–]as a PoV (Person of Velour),bengarth 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is literally drama. Fuck outta here.

[–]prison, honeythebestdaysofmyflerm 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not personnel, it's /r/rpdrdrama

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (0子コメント)

let motha vent

[–]Ravenna39 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So I guess Shea and Sasha are never going to resolve that sexual tension if they happen to break up with their significant others.

[–]eating a meatball sandwichfullmoonhermit 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why have you done this to me?

[–]morganra 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What happened?

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]morganra 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OH. MY. GOD. I did not see that coming oh, at all.

[–]Try me and fall to your fate.hausofedwards 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I still don't think this is what's going down in 2 weeks. I believe with editing and more filming, they'll be showing us a different ending than Sasha or Pep winning. I'm prepared to be wrong but I don't put any of it past Ru. Also they filmed at the same spot today since this morning Nina asked whether Carson and Ross would be there because they had good dressing room light and if they weren't coming she wanted to use it. I don't know how many rooms are in this place but it's not out of the realm of possibility that they stop by and film one or two crownings while they film MC or before the sit down reunion. Or even if they did it the night before, after people left. We'll see I guess.

[–]Bukharin from Financerifoist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Everytime (Cucu, Naysha returning etc.) WOW pulls a stunt people come up with elaborate theories but its always the obvious one.

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

and the cheapest one...

[–]RuPaul's Moral Character Racekrammebamse 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

After people left? So they'd film a crowning in front of an empty theater?

"COME THROUGH!!" echoes

[–]Try me and fall to your fate.hausofedwards 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol

[–]crowning white mediocrityrosebanana 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]Try me and fall to your fate.hausofedwards 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol girl trust me I'm ready to be wrong. I'm both processing how shitty this is for everyone involved, especially Shea, and not fully trusting it because I watch so much shitty reality tv (including some VH1 stuff) that I'm just always expecting stunts to be pulled. Whatever I see in two weeks, I won't be surprised. But I'm still disappointed in this whole twist for all of them either way.

[–]problematicrealness 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol I'm right there with you. My inner conspiracy theorist says something is up. But I think it's more a case of them not thinking the twist all the way through. I'd guess they were expecting the opposite results, but then the performances happened.

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[–]tannerakira 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

You're all seriously a bunch of salty bitches. I am LIVING while y'all are dying, literally gasping for air because your fave lost. Like good fuck, you run a cringe subreddit and act like you're above it all and then instantly go back to threads like this to whine and cry about Shea not winning and being robbed while shitting on anybody else's fave. Fucking gross. If you're gonna be as messy and invested as every other drag race stan, at least don't act as if you're so much more "unbothered" than the rest of us. And after all the Tyra shit "I WON! And Raven lost, twice!" Well guess what? Sasha/Peppermint WON! And Shea didn't! And neither did Nina. Your faves are shook :/// Living for my pettiness hunties???

[–]🐍KATHY🐍oath2order 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Tell your Mr Clean fave to take a bath like Whitney

[–]hate always, captain steve xxxapparatus86 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not gonna lie, I was legtimitely heartbroken when I saw this. I was rooting for Sasha (mostly because of slav representation) but I would've been happy with a Shae win too. To see her reaction like this after being so chirpy and sure that she's going to take the crown throughout the entirety of the last episode is just...feels wrong man.

[–]NevarranPrince 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is it bad that I thought Cynthia was Tyra for a sec there

[–]esperterra 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This twist would have been so beautiful if they had top 4 be the second last competitive episode. Then have the top 3 compete in a challenge the next week. The winner is guaranteed a spot in the top 2 lip sync at the finale, where the bottom 2 will compete for the other spot.

Way less of an asspull twist than the top 4 tournament, and this way you still get the gag of filming two 'live' LSFYL. I've been wanting them to bring back the top 2 LSFYL for fucking years. There's no reason for them to not do it and film both crownings.