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[–]hblask 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (12子コメント)

That is a lot of words.

[–]btceroh 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yeah, took me like 8 scrolls to get to the bottom to see if there was a TLDR

[–]kevinallen 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Tricks on you. The tldr is at the top

[–]btceroh 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Lol, couldn't see the bold TLDR between all the other bold

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Lot of new things in this post if you realize how rich any willing person could get if there was an online game for betting on the best. A democratic casino for betting on who can make the most benefit for all players. Free to play, but pay to win.

[–]doghousediaries 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lay off the cocaine, buddy

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you're looking at an ethereum sub reddit you know all this is possible and that's all that matters.

[–]mommathecat 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lots of things are "possible", doesn't make them worthwhile or useful or realistic.

Anyway. Top notch shitpost. I think. Like everyone else I'm not going to grok War and Peace up there.

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What point is there to having coke and Pepsi swell their bank accounts when all that potential economic energy could be going into making the world better. If it holds true that the group with more resources has the advantage, the majority always has the advantage. They just have to be willing to play

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Programmable currency can equal gamified currency. Ya?

[–]Grateyfratez[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sure fuckin is negative Nancy. But how I present it doesn't matter: it's fundamentally sound. If they don't play, we could just move to the next unheard AI experts who would love to take a Crack. Doesn't matter how many experts we have to start right?

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And no, I don't know why I capitalized Crack

[–]Calimar777 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are so high.

[–]googlefu_panda 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Can I bet you're on googles computer in this game? Chess, while not "solved", is really much easier for computers. It's all about looking far ahead into the future. Only chess grandmasters would be able to make worthwhile predictions in your game, and I still think the computer would win.

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

The point isn't if we could win, it's if we could maintain the egame long enough to force Google out of it.

[–]xman5 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No Google would still win. There is not a chance humans can win in chess against Google... and you can't outbet Google in that game, because Google can ask it's (much bigger) community for help on the betting and much more people would bet on Google, not on your "human hive mind computer". We can beat Google only with more computational power probably (but even that is not a sure thing). Maybe we could try to crowdfund AI development and then build bigger computer than Google and probably beat it.

I think you overestimate human "hive mind" ability, it's not linear. Bunch of stupid people are not more intelligent than one grandmaster, why should a group of grandmasters be more intelligent at chess than Google.

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

There's power in that

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That would mean your wealth could be spent in a constant fashion voting only on the best and not your favorite. We'd always win the game, and when a programmer can add logic to currency, he can make a game of the world.

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What would anyone have to lose betting on a rigged game?

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Casinos make bank on rigged games. Always

[–]Vupwol 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Gave up about a third of the way through your ungodly wall of text, so sorry if you've covered this, but the human voters will just use computers to determine their next move. There's no way to prevent it and you'd be stupid not to, so you'd really just be pitting google's chess computer against whatever the best publically available chess software is. Not exactly sure what your point was supposed to be, but you wouldn't be proving it.

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The point is there are a whole lot of different use cases nobody is considering with programmable currency.

[–]Physical_removal 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I like how you're challenging Google but then tell them to put up or shut up. They didn't say anything to you how can they shut up

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yup, because the data is valuable to them too, and they have the resources. I dont, you dont. You wouldn't want to see this happen with Googles resources? They'd make bank on the publicity alone

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[–]AlphaApache 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you forget to take your crazy pills?

[–]doghousediaries 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would gild, but all my cash is in ETH.

[–]Atyzze 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We've attracted the crazies. Definite sell signal!

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe too much bold. But it'll do.

[–]thetimujin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can see your plan, but absolutely none of it is a solution for the singularity.

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We wouldn't win?

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yall too busy trying to be snarky while the obvious truth is pissing all over your feet. Logic + currency = currency games. If we can create an entire industry off rigged games (Vegas bitches) we can create an entire economy off of it too. We just have to diversify the games we decide to play. So what rules would you setup to force the best outcome for the world?

We don't need to win, we just need to survive. We're slightly better than a computer at improvising.

Easy way to realize why a human super computer is more valuable than AI, or at least easier to implement.

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'd welcome all players, rich and poor, join in the wealth of the rigged game

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since you all lack the foresight to consider scale, let me propose another hypothetical scenario:

US government gains intel that North Korea and Russia have been gearing for a surprise attack for a decade. Their wondrous ability to keep it a secret so long meant they were assured victory.

But there's always a logically superior solution when there's so many possible plays.

In an hour they could issue a national state of emergency and we could all pour our stagnant funds into Uncle Sam, because rock flag eagle bitch. On demand wartime funding. I know, not as fun but hey at least we were able to make up for lost time pretty quickly eh?

It's a fundamental fix for the bad in the world, because the world collectively would benefit from eliminating it. As long as the world isn't working with logical currency, logical currency has the advantage every time.

So we need to create the ultimate game that stacks the odds in the majorities favor everytime, because what's good for the majority is probably good for you too.

No one will bet on what won't benefit them, so we bet on everything to maximize benefit universally. Fuck playing favorites, I want humanity to win the coming realizations of what new economic war games open up to the clever.

I want to see if we can create a human super computer to beat the inevitable evil to the punch. Sounds like fantasy, but it's already possible. It just takes the resources. My statistics are rusty, but the majority are in control of the majority of resources, right? Oh no? Then we better fucking think of something, and i dont have the resources necessary to do something myself. Pandora doesn't go back in the box, he only comes out.

Play or don't play, but the game will move on without you.

[–]Grateyfratez[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ethereum suddenly presents a very large hole in our collective knowledge that can mean great, terrible, or pointless things. The point of this experiment is to see if we can rig a way to ensure the majority can recognize a threat and bet on the best way to defeat it, instead of voting on someone who we have to trust to solve all kinds of issues a single person couldn't possibly master.

Eliminate any single point of failure, exact same philosophy of block chain technology in the first place right