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[–]Killgraft 897 ポイント898 ポイント  (109子コメント)

They are taking a jab at our current politics with the KKK and nazis in the US because liberals love to call conservatives nazis and klan members. The main character had to tell the NPC he wasn't a literal nazi. WTF? Even during WW2 german citizens didn't have to tell people they were not nazis. Fuck them for putting their personal views on politics into a game to try and indoctrinate kids. Normally I don't care about art/video games with a message, but when its specifically targeted at retards and kids, thats when I think they cross the line.

Even if this was pushing a political agenda (apparently "nazis being bad" is a controversial idea now), its rated M so wouldn't be pushing it on kids anyway.

[–]Aetolthings should work the way I misunderstand the rest of the world 924 ポイント925 ポイント  (39子コメント)

apparently "nazis being bad" is a controversial idea now

The alt-right was a mistake.

[–]lolpancakeslol 467 ポイント468 ポイント  (30子コメント)

Funny how the side that is so quick to tell someone they're triggered is so easily offended themselves.

[–]PrincessKindnessVideoing your daughter having sex is a conservative tradition? 305 ポイント306 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You don't have to be self aware if your beliefs are founded on your insecurities

[–]KickItNext 265 ポイント266 ポイント  (17子コメント)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, they're guilty of basically everything they accuse others of being guilty of.

Being easily triggered, swallowing fake news like it's pizza, being weak, being afraid, being "cucks" (I mean, they'd totally be elated to have trump bang their waifu pillow), etc.

[–]Power_Wrist 104 ポイント105 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every accusation, an admission.

Fucking Illinois Nazis, man.

[–]StreetfighterXD 171 ポイント172 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh! Oh! Oh! Don't forget the serious alt-righters who 'base their arguments on realism and logic instead of emotion' who will then argue in the next sentence that voters went to Trump because they felt mocked by liberal elites.

You can't make this shit up

[–]Killchrono 95 ポイント96 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I'm still convinced Melania is banging other dudes in Trump tower while he's in Washington.

If that's the case, they are worshipping a literal cuck.

[–]twinksteverogersThanks for the daily reminder that idiots like you still exist. 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Hell some of the bodyguards are hot too, wouldn't be surprised if she's banging the staff.

[–]DragyDeviThis is good for Star Citizen 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Every time I see a thread like this I just want to run in there and ask them "You seem a little triggered there, bud. Do you need a safe space to talk it out?"

[–]TheDeadManWalksCaught in a writhing oiled pit of elderly, confused meth-heads. 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Spoiler, they don't like it.

[–]g0_west 75 ポイント76 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The phrase "alt-reich" has never been more applicable

[–]Blacksheep2134Filthy Generate 414 ポイント415 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Even during WW2 german citizens didn't have to tell people they were not nazis.

Now I'm imagining French rebels recruiting people into their organization without checking to see if they were Nazi's first.

We're in a French hideout somewhere and there's this one German guy in Groucho Marx glasses and an SS uniform in the corner. One of the rebels turns to the other and says, "do we trust the new guy?" And the other just responds, "well I can't very well ask him if he's a Nazi! How impolite would that be?"

[–]g0_west 153 ポイント154 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Even during WW2 german citizens didn't have to tell people they were not nazis.

Wasn't it the polar opposite? Germans had to pretend that they did support the nazis, else face punishment? Or was that only the Soviets?

[–]nutellabr00t 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Opposition wasn't allowed, I don't think you'd have been prosecuted for not fully supporting them. My knowledge about this is a bit fuzzy though.

[–]Zeitfresser 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You didn't have to join the NSDAP, but it was looked upon with great suspicion if you didn't cheer for Hitler and co.

Let's just say the Nazis hoped that everyone would show gratitude for their great leadership and act accordingly.

[–]Enthused_Llama 303 ポイント304 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Even during WW2 german citizens didn't have to tell people they were not nazis.

I'm pretty sure that's not entirely true.

Fuck them for putting their personal views on politics into a game to try and indoctrinate kids.

Ok, this game clearly isn't political but even if it was - people need to fuck off with the 'keep politics out of videogames' bullshit. Media has been used for centuries to express political opinions, whether blatant or subtle. It's not your story.

but when its specifically targeted at retards and kids,

I forgot the new wolfenstein was given an ESRB rating of 'for retards and kids only.'

[–]RVallant 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Keep politics out of video games makes sense in some situations, but a game where the Nazis won is kinda fair game to tackled said politics.

Or do they expect the Nazis to be installing democracy and freedom throughout the world? O.o

[–]unmondeparfait 122 ポイント123 ポイント  (10子コメント)

There exists no media without a point of view. Even if the creators go way, way, way out of their way to try and keep "politics" (people seem to mean "things I don't like" when they say that) out of their creation, it will still have political meaning to someone. Even Minecraft has been accused of being gnostic / anarchist propaganda. You're asking for something which does not exist, even the blandest, least engaging content imaginable has necessarily political context because that's how human brains process data.

Just because people are pissier about politics than ever doesn't mean we should castrate our media. A hundred bucks says these "nazis did nothing wrong" whiners are the same people who were crying about developers not putting enough titty meat in their games anymore. As everybody with half a brain knew during the twitching dry ejaculation that was gamergate, it wasn't about fairness or freedom of speech, it was about the man-baby's well documented desire to have all media reflect their personal whims and tastes. Inclusion triggered them at the time, and now that a lot of them have become nazi sympathizers, Far Cry 5 and Wolfenstein 2 trigger them as well.

The sad reality for them is that while most adults are open to talking about how media impacts people and how they want it to look in the future, nobody is going to have that conversation with nazis or racists. I think that's probably a good thing.

[–]cmdrfirex 253 ポイント254 ポイント  (23子コメント)

I am really annoyed that nazi ideology is nowadays labelled by alt-righters as "controversial" instead of downright evil. When it was bassically a death cult with fantasies about some mustard race angel people.

[–]Buttstache💕known fat lover 187 ポイント188 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Makes you kinda glad WW2 vets have mostly died off. They don't have to see the absolutely disgusting things their shitty great-grandchildren are saying about the ideology their brothers died fighting against.

[–]Charlie_Mouse 124 ポイント125 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't think it's a coincidence that this crap is resurgent now the generation that fought it last time is no longer around to call it out.

[–]The_Consumer 81 ポイント82 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's exactly why. Not at all dissimilar to the resurgence of previously almost-eradicated diseases and illnesses due to anti-vaccinationists who never lived through the horrible reality of the diseases they are bringing back with their ignorance.

[–]ThatDBGuyAlways the commenter, never the submitter 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There is definitely some effect at play here. It's like the isolationism pushed by 45's administration. The last generation to experience the effects of isolationism are long gone, and can't warn against the negative effects of it. The further we get from an idea or situation, the quicker the bad effects of the situation are forgotten or no longer spoken about, with people only remembering the positives.

[–]moffattron9000But they have a WNBA title 118 ポイント119 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Meanwhile, Germany has become one of the main places fighting against this nonsense.

[–]HauntedFurnitureTurboautist 1858 ポイント1859 ポイント  (162子コメント)

Good guys are the resistance that is led by a powerful black female protagonist with "natural" hair and a ragtag band of characters that have been checked off an SJW checklist.

So... the objection isn't even that the player character is a black woman? The mere presence in the game of a black female NPC is enough for them to confirm some kind of liberal agenda.

EDIT: Best comment:

When you think a game about killing literal Nazis is about you, you might be a literal Nazi.

[–]BonyIver 649 ポイント650 ポイント  (95子コメント)

Right? It's not enough that the main character is still a pretty generic, gruff white guy (don't get me wrong, I love BJ), the simple fact that there is a black woman in a leading role is an issue

[–]PlayMp1when did globalism and open borders become liberal principles 431 ポイント432 ポイント  (72子コメント)

BJ is a Polish-American, and as a Slav, is literally the untermensch, obviously.

[–]BonyIver 233 ポイント234 ポイント  (51子コメント)

I have zero issue with BJ, I'm just saying he doesn't really break the mold as far as video game protagonists go

[–]PlayMp1when did globalism and open borders become liberal principles 193 ポイント194 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Oh, I know, I was just mocking the Nazis.

[–]NorthernerWuwu 92 ポイント93 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Listen, don't mention the war. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it all right.

[–]Lunacracy 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (2子コメント)

"You started it!"

"No we didn't!"

"Yes you did you invaded Poland!"

[–]I_HAVE_A_PET_CAT_AMA 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Sorry, I got a bit confused because everyone keeps mentioning the war!"

[–]saadghauri 180 ポイント181 ポイント  (19子コメント)

That's sorta the point - his looks help him infiltrate Nazi offices etc. His "pure Aryan" looks are praised by the Nazis often in The New Order

[–]Enthused_Llama 278 ポイント279 ポイント  (18子コメント)

I wonder how many people didn't really catch on to the 'literal slav being praised as a pure aryan' satire of how stupid the Nazi ideology was?

[–]Vio_ 120 ポイント121 ポイント  (9子コメント)

That actually happened in RL a couple of times. One Jewish man who hit all of the "Aryan" checkmarks was checked out by a Nazi doctor. The doctor all but refused to believe he was Jewish. The guy was so far up Nazi regime ass he couldn't quite understand that this Jewish guy had all of the traits of not looking "Jewish."

[–]HastingsHolyHundred 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The Nazi's "ideal German soldier", Werner Goldberg, was half-Jewish. That shit is hilarious to me.

[–]Legovil 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I once had a talk to a holocaust survivor in school. He had a friend who would go into Café that had 'no jews' signs up and flirted with German girls there. When they were getting into it he'd then say 'oh sorry I didn't see the sign' and leave.

[–]Enthused_Llama 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read a badly translated report once...some Germans downed and captured a well known Soviet ace. The commanding officer was clearly grappling with understanding how a subhuman could possibly be such a competent warrior and not immediately crack under the slightest pressure.

[–]AtomicKaiserHerbert Bailbonds 113 ポイント114 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I think that was kinda a nuance point making fun of their pseudoscientific mystic views.

[–]cyberpunk_werewolf 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It is also a game where the Nazis can only win by literally Jewish super science from a religious sect dedicated to creation as a means of praising God. The game is huge on irony, especially when it makes the Nazis look like the fucking morons they were.

[–]Enthused_Llama 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Reading up on Operation Sealion I'm fairly confident the Nazis could've managed to lose even with ancient jew magicks.

[–]Zombies_hate_ninjas 137 ポイント138 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Oh Bj doesn't break the mold, he made the mold. I loved in the last game that they kept him so on point. He hates Nazis because they're baddies, he kills tons of Nazis, he gets almost killed by Nazis, he lives. . . to kill more Nazis.

It's not Shakespeare, but it is awesome. Also every game is improved with the addition of killer robo-dogs.

[–]catchabadone 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Part of that is that he is literally the mold though. I don't disagree that the games could still be rad with another protagonist though.

[–]Grizzant 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (3子コメント)

unter to uber rustlesjimmies.

the main thing for me, since i played the original back in the day is the storyline is not divergent at all from the original. all they are doing is filling in the future. it has, and always will be, about killing nazis. atleast they dont have those terrifying as fuck nazi zombie gun in chest dudes. they used to give me nightmares.

i will admit im a bit sad that since the original i havent felt the urge to run against walls pressing spacebar and hearing errrrrrrrrrr and the occasional click-grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr of finding a secret passage.

edit: for the younguns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc4CDuCp4FU

though you can play the old version for free online these days.

[–]Enthused_Llama 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Points for the old lady pronouncing his name properly.

[–]Citizen_O 171 ポイント172 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nice to see Angela Davis is still making fascists uncomfortable.

[–]bubblesthefencer 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much confirmed that it's supposed to be an alternate Angela Davis the same way J was supposed to be an alternate Jimi Hendrix in the first new Wolfenstein.

[–]Enthused_Llama 123 ポイント124 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The mere presence in the game of a black female NPC is enough for them to confirm some kind of liberal agenda.

Black people being both successful and in a position of authority is an issue, but a black woman? We know who's responsible!

[–]MrBigSaturn 252 ポイント253 ポイント  (33子コメント)

I also like that they put natural in scare quotes.

[–]prettyinsoulpunkDon Quixote was the world's first otaku 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (1子コメント)

her hair is made of very tiny snakes if you look closely

[–]DamnFineHatFluoride Swilling Ball-Earther 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I could totally see this being a piece of WWII propaganda.

[–]cnzmur 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (18子コメント)

In fairness, I believe 'natural hair' means something specific to African-Americans. I am vaguely aware of it being a 'thing', but, as I am neither American, a woman, or black, I don't really know what it is.

[–]jimbosaur 160 ポイント161 ポイント  (7子コメント)

It means untreated with chemicals and dyes, and otherwise unstraightened (also, not wearing a wig or weave). There's no reason to put it in scare quotes except to make fun of the idea that many black women are proud of keeping their hair in its natural state in the face of overwhelming social/cultural pressure to make their hair more like European/South Asian hair.

[–]Labinb 94 ポイント95 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are definitely Politics to it, but basically it is just allowing your hair's natural curl pattern to do its thing. It's noteworthy when black people do so 'cause there's stigma attached to the tighter curl pattern and other stuff that characterizes typically "black" hair.

Complaining about a a fictional black chick just having ""natural"" hair is........at its root.............just complaining about a fictional black chick having natural hair.

[–]Raj-- 80 ポイント81 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's more than that. It's accusing black people of being contrarian for not wanting to straight their hair...to look more white.

[–]kekkyman 111 ポイント112 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It does. It's very common for black women to have their hair straightened to conform to white beauty standards. Natural hair is about embracing the beauty of blackness.

[–]SpookyLlama 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also it's a fucking war game. It would look dumb if anyone had anything but natural hair.

[–]Gunblazer42The furry perspective no one asked for. 95 ポイント96 ポイント  (1子コメント)

She's not even the leader of the resistance. Like the third or fourth line from her is "So I've been hearing about this 'resistance'..." And then trails off slowly as an arm shoves a bagel into a face until it's nothing but crumbs.

[–]viperex 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (3子コメント)

So it doesn't matter the reason, so long as a minority (particularly black person) is used in any media, they're automatically being used as a prop?

[–]BloomEPUyour religious and not worth listening to 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yup! Even if their race/sexuality/gender becomes really important in the exploration of themes of a work and fits perfectly with the story.

[–]cantCmeThe blind stares of a million pairs of eyes 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also who would have thought minorities have an interest in defeating nazi's.

[–]thisismynewacct 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (1子コメント)

His head would explode at BF1. There's a BLACK GERMAN!

[–]macheniseYou're literally disabled. Liberalism is a mental disease. 90 ポイント91 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If the presence of a black person or a woman or a black woman ruins an experience for you, you should know that you're the shitty person ruining everyone's experience.

[–]Illogical_BloxYou just dove headlong into a burden of proof fallacy 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find that hilarious considering that with how badly many straight cis white men are treated under fascism, a minority would be even worse treated, and typically it isn't the people having a good time who rebel.

[–]Enthused_Llama 146 ポイント147 ポイント  (2子コメント)

We've reached peak irony.

People that spout the "Make America Great Again" slogan are bitching about a video game protraying shooting Nazis - WW2 being literally the thing that made the 'Great' America they want to return to.

THEY ARE LITERALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT MAKING AMERICA GREAT.

[–]evil_con_carne 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not only that, but it looks like in the game America is a German colony and the culture has been bastardized into the Third Reich Lite so the group trying to fight against that would be fighting to make the country "America" again.

[–]Wilwheatonfan87 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its because many of these people are neo-nazis from places like stormfront, who have never touched a video game in their lives, who are only here on reddit and other gamer places to spread their hate in a "concerned about our future" way to indoctrinate and bring more youth into the fold.

Like https://archive.is/7lQiA and https://archive.is/YyKpX

Stormfront has been on reddit since 2014 and it was around that time that the surge of their trash has grown to what it is today.

[–]Procrastinare 531 ポイント532 ポイント  (28子コメント)

I don't remember conservatives calling liberals the KKK or nazis

Liberal Fascism

Hitlary

Hillary KKK

Democrat KKK

Liberals are Nazis

I could go on but it's just an easy Google search to prove that right wingers call liberals Nazis, racists, evil, communists, pedophiles, Party of the KKK, etc, constantly.

It's incredible that ideologues are truly incapable of seeing their own behavior or the behavior of their team. They also have no memory for anything their team has ever done. "I don't remember my team ever..." is such blatant bullshit. They are so hyper focused hating the other team that they are completely blind to their own team.

[–]giigu 156 ポイント157 ポイント  (6子コメント)

[–]mannotron 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Because 'social justice' is clearly what the Nazis were up to in Auschwitz. All that liberal equality and political correctness that Hitler and Goebbels were famous for. They would have passed gay marriage too, if it wasn't for those meddling Allies!

Anybody who can seriously consider Liberalism and Nazism as the same thing is functionally fucking retarded, and incapable of the brainpower necessary to participate in democracy.

[–]mdp300 80 ポイント81 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Also all those times they called Obama a fascist socialist

[–]von-vaper 186 ポイント187 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Nah dude, those are fringe groups.

Liberals, as a single monolithic block, are prone to hyperbole and stupidity. Conservatives are far more rational and respectful...

[–]Not_A_Doctor__ 139 ポイント140 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Why can't we have a kinder, more balanced portrayal of nazi collaborators?"

[–]lic05 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"This libtards are teaching our children this people were bad! I mean, they tried to take over the world and systematically killed millions of people based on their ethnicity but it was a different time!"

[–]MrBigSaturn 472 ポイント473 ポイント  (37子コメント)

Move over, Far Cry, a new game is here to stir up unnecessary drama. To think, 10-15 years ago, making Nazis the bad guy might have been the least controversial choice you could make. How times have changed.

[–]AkortMy point, is no Jews invited me to worship Saturn 327 ポイント328 ポイント  (11子コメント)

This is somehow even dumber than Far Cry.

Ffs it's Wolfenstein. Its more or less the original Nazi Shooting game. What the fuck is wrong with people.

Yes I'm pissed because people reacting like this is frankly disturbing. Atleast most people are telling them off.

[–]Enthused_Llama 118 ポイント119 ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is somehow even dumber than Far Cry.

Agreed, the bad guys of Far Cry 5 are clearly a fucking wacko cult but they don't have the whole 'industrial genocide' thing.

And FFS, in the wolfenstein universe the Nazis actually fucking completed it!

[–]Vio_ 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Special naziflakes need their safe sauce

[–]banjist 174 ポイント175 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Man between Wolfenstein 2 and Far Cry 5 I'm going to be pretty busy slaughtering reactionary right wing nuts in the US in video games for the foreseeable future. I love it.

[–]mdp300 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I had little to no interest in Far Cry 4, but 5 has me excited.

[–]IDontKnowHowToPMTobias is my spirit animal 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I've never played a single Far Cry game, but I want to buy 4 for one reason alone. The Easter Egg where if you just sit there when the villain leaves, he comes back and the game ends with no conflict. I'm not big on FPS games like at all, but I want to reward that kind of cleverness.

I might pick up 5 at some point when the price drops as well because I just have to play a game where sovereign citizens are the bad guys.

[–]cougardraven 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh wait, they're not just crazy religious wingnuts, but also SovCits?

Just bumped the PS4 to the top of my "to buy" list, I need to play this now.

[–]Korysovec 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It finally looks a bit different than FC3. I hope it's good, one of few games that I am hyped for in the near future.

[–]cisxuzuul 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also helped that there were a lot more WWII vets alive and telling their stories.

[–]OmegaBlue0231Space Jam Wizard 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In fact it would be seen as boring and beating a dead horse since so many games were doing it.

[–]RealRealGoodfun is just a buzzword 253 ポイント254 ポイント  (5子コメント)

We are not taking your liberal bullshit anymore. You will see this in the next few elections.

Hating nazis is liberal bullshit, cool.

Stuff like this is ensuring votes for the people you guys hate the most in the next elections.

"Calling people racist is the real hate speech!"

(I am not even a conservative.)

Oh, this guy likes to smoke weed.

[–]quasiix 79 ポイント80 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stuff like this is ensuring votes for the people you guys hate the most in the next elections.

If there is a more accurate representation the voting population of America than a group of people whining about video games on reddit, then I surely have never found it.

Their thoughts, their feelings, their priorities....how could they not speak for us all?

[–]ThatDBGuyAlways the commenter, never the submitter 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We ate not raking your liberal bullshit anymore

This is why Macron won

[–]BonyIver 937 ポイント938 ポイント  (91子コメント)

Oh man, you could cut the irony with a knife. A bunch of "real gamers" whining about Wolfenstein like it's some new essjaydubya plot and not one of the most important shooter franchises of all time. Killing Nazis is like a central pillar of video games

[–]Blacksheep2134Filthy Generate 719 ポイント720 ポイント  (57子コメント)

Nazi's, zombies and robots basically form a holy trinity of things that can be shot without moral qualms in video games.

[–]catchabadone 155 ポイント156 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Wolfenstein has had all of those since pretty much the start too

[–]Blacksheep2134Filthy Generate 241 ポイント242 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Wolfenstein is the reason those things are OK to shoot. Getting angry at Wolfenstein for shooting Nazi's is like getting angry at water for being wet.

[–]Anlashok2016Killer Klown Popcorn Gun 352 ポイント353 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Angry Declaration: You think shooting robots is a good thing? Check your organic privilege meatbag.

[–]beary_goodPro-Censorship Fascist 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (2子コメント)

and sometimes Russians

[–]CVance1sick twisted social justice bullshit pleasure 229 ポイント230 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Killing Nazis is the only reason for Wolfenstein to exist

[–]a57782 182 ポイント183 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Killing Nazis on the moon with lasers is the only reason for Wolfenstein to exist.

[–]Enthused_Llama 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Honestly I was disappointed with the EVA section...why didn't I get to shoot Nazis while also moon bouncing across the surface?

[–]finfinfin 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hey, no, every dead Nazi is important, from the Moon-Nazi you shoot with a laser to the Nazi you knife in an alley on Earth.

[–]Jiketi 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Some are prolly jokes, but there are some who are paranoid - see everything as political propaganda - so a silly game about killing Nazis to us - to them it's Liberal anti-white/anti-right propaganda.

So true.

[–]Enthused_Llama 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Killing Nazis is was like a central pillar of video games making america great.

[–]german_leopard 119 ポイント120 ポイント  (3子コメント)

"Or I'm not buying this game because the company thinks all white people that disagree with them are nazis. My gender is nazi. I identify as a nazi frog and this is very triggering."

[–]nikfraProve it then you fucking shill 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have the chemicals in the water already turned you into a gay Nazi frog?

[–]Goroman86Giraffical Interchange Format 702 ポイント703 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Well, I am sure conservatives have a reason for calling feminists feminazis.

Well, I am sure leftists have a reason for calling nazis nazis

This was beautiful.

[–]tdogg8Folks, the CTR shill meeting was moved to next week. 292 ポイント293 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Well, I am sure conservatives have a reason for calling feminists feminazis.

This is one of the dumbest arguments. Everyone has a reason for what they do. Nobody is living life solely based on RNG. The idiot who tried to play Russian Roulette with a magazine fed pistol had a reason. Alex Jones has a reason for believing in fish people. Just because they have an excuse for being shitty doesn't mean that excuse is valid.

[–]Vio_ 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I am sure conservatives have a reason for calling feminists feminazis.

Yes. His name is Rush Limbaugh. He literally put that horrible word out into the universe.

[–]Shrimpscape 229 ポイント230 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Are these kids fucking new or something? The Wolfenstein series is literally about killing Nazis. Even the suggestion that killing Nazis could be considered a political soapbox now is pathetic.

[–]tehbehA fallacy to surpass metal gear 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah but so far we only shot European Nazis, now we shoot American Nazis.

[–]SpookBustersIt's about the ethics of metaethics 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As long as we're killin gnat-zees, it doesn't matter what country they come from.

[–]No_Warhawkz 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can you imagine a Wolfenstein NOT about killing Nazis? It's like ice cream without ice! It's like eating a banana stem first! It's like literally shitting in your own mouth for the warmth!

[–]qtx 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well tbf a lot of t_d'ers are still in highschool. They're too young.

[–]TheCommunistElephantNot Actually A Communist 511 ポイント512 ポイント  (57子コメント)

Why not make this same game, but with I dunno, the Soviets as the bad guys? They're underused as villains.

The Russians just got out of being the default bad guy to he replaced with pan asian and this dude is already trying to pull them back.

[–]TierschlossWho are you even? The defender of whores? 225 ポイント226 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Why not make SCHLOSS WOLFENSTEIN ZWEI: DER NEUE KOLOSS but with, I dunno, the ancient Egyptians as the bad guys?

[–]Blacksheep2134Filthy Generate 90 ポイント91 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Oh! Someone get the guys from Wisdom Tree to reskin The First Order to be a game where Moses fights the Egyptians! I'd buy that.

[–]BonyIver 381 ポイント382 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Why not take this 40 year old franchise that is almost exclusively about killing Nazis and make it about something else? Won't somebody give the Nazis a break :,(

[–]Mawrten 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Now there's a moment where you might question someone's gamer cred.

[–]Enthused_Llama 240 ポイント241 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Soviets

Underused as villains

r u retarded.

[–]_haydad 189 ポイント190 ポイント  (17子コメント)

When you're only fifteen and weren't alive for the fifty year long red scare.

[–]JamarcusRussel"What are you gonna do, ban me?" -quote from guy banned 81 ポイント82 ポイント  (14子コメント)

even if you know nothing about that, the russians are the "villains" irl right now.

[–]KickItNext 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (3子コメント)

For real, did these kids not play modern warfare. Evil Russians and evil middle eastern terrorists.

[–]SAGORN 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not even that, if you grew up after the wall fell Russians were villains in movies, books, and games for quite a long time, they still are, but they were too.

[–]Killchrono 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember when Call of Duty did an entire trilogy where the Russians were capitalist-hating warmongers who used undercover terrorist acts to provoke a war with America?

One set in the, shall we say, modern times?

Hell the whole thing seemed like a Cold War propagandist's nutso conspiracy theory back in the late 2000s/early 2010s.

[–]KickItNext 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's like the far cry 5 drama where people were saying that middle eastern terrorist villains were underused in fps games.

[–]mannotron 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Frankly, I think it's time that white Christian terrorism had a turn at being the media villain, and I'm pleasantly surprised that Ubisoft is the company having the first serious AAA crack at it.

[–]mrscienceguy1 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Russians have been bad guys in plenty of games recently, it's like they've never heard of Call of Duty before.

[–]WorseThanHipsterI'm Cuckoo for Cuckold Puffs! 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about the Jews? Talk about under used, they're never portrayed as the villains!

[–]beary_goodPro-Censorship Fascist 195 ポイント196 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is the type of story that you'd used to read in The Onion.

[–]Citizen_O 87 ポイント88 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If hating Nazis is now somehow a controversial political stance, I'm happy to take that stance.

[–]IDontKnowHowToPMTobias is my spirit animal 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The instant a political party adds the words "Hating Nazis" to their official platform, I'll be registering for that party.

[–]DotaDogmaPetition to put admins on the endangered list. 249 ポイント250 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I've never been in threads linked to /r/SubredditDrama before. I feel like I've achieved something.

But yeah no as I pressed submit I never thought anyone would be upset about killing hypothetical Nazis, but welcome to 2017 I guess. Where Nazi hating is a political stance.

[–]Xealeon 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You'd be amazed at what's apparently a "political issue" now. Like hating Nazis or being gay.

[–]twinksteverogersThanks for the daily reminder that idiots like you still exist. 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Or being a muslim

[–]IceCreamBalloonsEthics are forged in the fires of flamewar 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or thinking that maybe people who aren't white could be the main character more than once a decade.

[–]ecodude74 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or thinking that the people committing literal genocide in a game are the bad guys

[–]beary_goodPro-Censorship Fascist 164 ポイント165 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never thought anyone would be upset about

Welcome to SRD

[–]virohmYour Reddit karma is just a reflection of your life 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I mean... shooting nazis is getting kind of old as well as including one stereotypically "black" character. However this game has a parodic twist that sets it apart from the crowd.

Being critical of repetition in a video game thread about shooting things seems a little ironic to me.

[–]The_Gares_Escape_PlaConstantly having an existential crisis 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm like 99% sure the "stereotypical black character" is a Pam Grier/blaxpoitation film reference. The last game had this weird, grindhouse flick (with the crazy story and over the top characters and violence) vibe going on, so it makes sense the new one would continue that trend.

[–]indigo_voodoo_child 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's probably more of a reference to Angela Davis, the most famous leader of the Communist Party USA.

[–]grungebot5000jesus man 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't remember conservatives calling liberals the KKK or nazis

immediately proceeds to call liberals the KKK and "the real racists"

edit: holy shit why are people mentioning tay tweets in that thread

i still don't understand why people act surprised that when you forcefeed a learning twitter bot nothing but heinous shit, it starts saying heinous shit.

[–]Mawrten 115 ポイント116 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Jesus fucking Christ! This is even dumber than the Far Cry 5 drama. Complaining about killing Nazis in a video game? What the fuck!

[–]AkortMy point, is no Jews invited me to worship Saturn 99 ポイント100 ポイント  (3子コメント)

In a game franchise that has always been about killing differnt form of Nazis

[–]Jiketi 116 ポイント117 ポイント  (12子コメント)

The developers of this game have a political point to make to gamers- an audience that is filled with kids. Indoctrination. We know for a fact this is a tool of liberals because we see it everyday in ALL media.

"Of course, everything I don't like is indoctrination."

[–]IceCreamBalloonsEthics are forged in the fires of flamewar 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (2子コメント)

None of the other Wolfenstein games where you shoot Nazis was indoctrination, just this one, because I don't like it.

[–]choob_ 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (0子コメント)

More like 'because black lady.'

[–]MILLANDSON 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's because this one has the Klan supporting the Nazis, it has more black characters (which is appropriate for the US setting, the last game was in Europe), and it has a communist as a good guy in the trailer (which is appropriate, the communists fought the Nazis).

But all of that is SJW libcuck propaganda, apparently.

[–]Buttstache💕known fat lover 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Frankly I don't think indoctrination AGAINST NAZIS is a bad thing. My history classes in school also did that.

[–]Charlie_Mouse 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (1子コメント)

At the risk of sounding a bit melodramatic: alt-righters make it look like we didn't indoctrinate enough.

[–]jackierama 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I kind of feel bad for these kids, because this white-power horseshit is the most potent way they can think of to rebel. Crazy hair, strange clothes, piercings, makeup, weird music - none of that is an option anymore, because parents have been there, done that, and none of it shocks them. And unlike their parents, their /r/blunderyears will never be forgotten: that kid from the other day with the white pride t-shirt will have to deal with that photo long after he's grown out of this phase.

[–]Buttstache💕known fat lover 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's the Alex P Keaton effect. In the the old tv show Family Ties, his parents were former hippies turned liberals. So their son rebelled by becoming a Reagan republican lol.

[–]centurion_celery 153 ポイント154 ポイント  (6子コメント)

so, literally killing Nazis is now a bad thing

these alt right tards whine about "LOL TRIGGERED" yet get triggered by...video games and world war 2 era fighting.

[–]Enthused_Llama 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The alt right tards get triggered by everything that disagrees, that's why they scream about everyone else being triggered.

[–]ElectJimLahey 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's an entire political ideology based on projecting one's insecurities onto others.

[–]tehbehA fallacy to surpass metal gear 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shouldn't these fucknuggets love wolfenstein? The overarching story involves a Jewish society of super scientists that are centuries ahead of the rest humanity in terms of technology and use that knowledge to carefully steer human science around the most deadly of those technologies so we don't wipe each other out.
Also all the Nazi buildings are slowly dissolving because one of the Jewish super scientists fucked with their formula for super concrete.

[–]Enthused_Llama 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also all the Nazi buildings are slowly dissolving because one of the Jewish super scientists fucked with their formula for super concrete.

Thanks for some reason I couldn't remember the conclusion of that little miniplot.

[–]JynNJuiceDon't lecture me on sugar. I know all about it 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How am I living in a reality where it's now controversial to kill Nazis.

For fuck's sake, world.

[–]Wilwheatonfan87 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its because many of these people are neo-nazis from places like stormfront, who have never touched a video game in their lives, who are only here on reddit and other gamer places to spread their hate in a "concerned about our future" way to indoctrinate and bring more youth into the fold.

Like https://archive.is/7lQiA and https://archive.is/YyKpX

Stormfront has been on reddit since 2014 and it was around that time that the surge of their trash has grown to what it is today.

[–]CyborgSlunk 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's E3 drama season!

[–]AkortMy point, is no Jews invited me to worship Saturn 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Idk. This is far more disturbing than the normal E3 drama.

Although we got part 2 of the Bethesda paid mods debacle that is mire in line with the silly drama we are used to getting from this part of the year.

[–]Zombies_hate_ninjas 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Haha FML I've lived long enough that BJ "I kill Nazis for fun" Blazkowicz is seen as an SJW. I don't know what to say. If you have a problem with Nazis and Klan ass hats being the bad guys, you're probably beyond help at this point. I just can't help you.

[–]abitnotgood 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You either die a hero or live long enough to get called an SJW beta cuck

[–]A-Theist0896 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You get a life. We are not taking your liberal bullshit anymore. You will see this in the next few elections.

Viva La Revolution!

[–]Killchrono 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

'Hey remember those recent French and British elections where the hard right conservative movements won in a landslide?'

[–]AnimeIRL 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

nazis getting mad that you kill nazis in the nazi killing game

[–]Zebracak3s 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Wait until you see the premise of Far Cry 5. Evil white Christian gun toting cult. People are going to lose their minds.

[–]wharpudding 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can't wait. I'm sick of running around fighting island cults in other countries.

[–]endperform 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

These comments are real? Wow, never thought I'd see the day where a Wolfenstein game gets complaints for being a Wolfenstein game.

[–]ElagabalusRexAnarchist-Monarchist-Feudalist 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

With gamers like these, who needs Jack Thompson?

[–]Dhenn004 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hasn't this game always been about killing nazis? Did I miss something? Why the sudden outcry? Lol

[–]12-juin-3049If you follow gaming culture you'd know where im coming from 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nazi apologia is on the rise

[–]MicooDA 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If there was one think I had hoped we could all agree on it would be that Nazi = bad.

It really surprises me that some of these people would rather fight for Nazi rights than female rights or gay rights.

[–]Enthused_Llama 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (0子コメント)

being anti-nazi in 2017 is fucking pointless

Oh no.

[–]sixstringshogun 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"WW2 was a mistake"? "Being anti-Nazi in 2017 is just fucking pointless"? Are they taking the fucking piss?

[–]sugakiwi 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Between this and The Last Night's co-creator's past tweets that reeked of redpill, gamergate, and general altrightish talk, this E3 has been good for drama.

[–]tehbehA fallacy to surpass metal gear 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Yo friendo, can you give me some links cause I must have missed that drama

[–]sugakiwi 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Here are some neogaf links that summed it up

1 2

If you need more just google "The Last Night game" and you will likely find a few dozen articles about it. It was the fastest transition of "THAT LOOKS HYPE" to "OH NOO" I've ever seen. Like sub 30 minutes.

The best thing this caused was the popularity of the term "Milkshake Duck"

[–]Twitch_Half 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I miss the 90s when I was a kid and we were all mixed and never thought about colour or religion.

Remember when racism took a decade off?

[–]joesap9 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I feel like all the media I watched as a kid then made it seem like that, like racism was in the past and MLK solved it forever. Without direct exposure to racism it took a long time for me to understand how bad it still is

[–]Power_Wrist 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I've always thought of this as a "Magic Schoolbus Quota", where the ethnicities are tokenized and it's enough to just have them be present and not be white. Like in Captain Planet or Star Trek. The differences are never noted and the racial hierarchies are so abstracted as to be meaningless to any critical reading. This is what some people think that racial harmony is- that if we just don't talk about it, race will cease to be a dividing factor in society.

It's when Carlos starts talking about the cops treating him differently than Arnold that the reactionaries come out of the woodwork. Oy.

Speaking of 90s representations of minorities, I wonder if there was any critical reaction to Tommy Pickles being revealed as ethnically Jewish, and having a whole episode devoted to Passover?

[–]austex_mike 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow. These guys seriously got REALLY upset because the main character was called a "white boy" in a game with a story about an imaginary world that is run by Nazis. It's unbelievable.

[–]PUNCH_EVERY_NAZI 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are they copying how they think SJWs act?? Except instead of tropes vs women they're really buttmad about tropes vs Nazis hahahahaha

Look fake gamerbois, stop trying to censor the developers. That's 1984. You are free to make your own game that's more inclusive to Nazis if you want, but you people don't even play videogames you just try to censor and control 😉😉😉

[–]DreamerlaxFeminized Canadian Cuck 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Holy fuck these people are dense. People have been kicking Nazi ass in Wolfenstein for more than 20 years already!