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Local 'blogger' surprised that he got arrested after drinking for 16 straight hours, being refused service, trying to get patrons to give him their drinks, then arguing with the cops about it. Newport Police are apparently the bad guys here though (thegnarlygnome.com)
NumNumLobsterNewport が 1日前 投稿
[–]jrob323 50 ポイント51 ポイント52 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
"I have a dream... a dream of selflessly furthering the cause of Cincinnati brewing by drinking at every brewery in the area over the course of one day. There are those that say it can't be done, that no man has that level of dedication and courage, but as I stand here before you on Facebook, I'll prove them wrong!"
Arrested at 2a in Newport for Public Intoxication.
[–]CarpeKitty 15 ポイント16 ポイント17 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
From what I'm reading it sounds like he was given a chance, didn't take it, they then made it clear they couldn't be bothered with this and he was making it harder than it needed to be.
All he had to do was walk away like they asked. If it's anything like with the cops I've seen they have little interest in putting someone away when they could go home and sleep it off.
[–]djtothemoneyMt. Washington 15 ポイント16 ポイント17 ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
You should have given up especially since you already missed Moerlein.
[–]TheGnarlyGnome -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 22時間前 (1子コメント)
I still made it to them all... that should count for something.
[–]djtothemoneyMt. Washington 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
Im not doubting the achievement. Your commitment to getting the last beer was probably misguided.
[–]sir_richard_head 36 ポイント37 ポイント38 ポイント 1日前 (12子コメント)
222.202 Offenses of alcohol intoxication or drinking alcoholic beverages in a public place. (1) A person is guilty of alcohol intoxication when he appears in a public place manifestly under the influence of alcohol to the degree that he may endanger himself or other persons or property, or unreasonably annoy persons in his vicinity.
I enjoy how he clearly left the tail end of this statute out of the post. Also, a driver and a camera person does not automatically create a situation where you are allowed to forego personal responsibility of the law. Responsibility for one's actions is always on the self regardless of what idiot friends you try to pin things on.
Also, if you approach the front door of a place and the door is locked and it's 20 minutes before they close and start kicking people out, that's a good indicator that you probably shouldn't go around back and try to get a drink. Then, if a couple of cops hired for security start telling you that it's time to turn around and go home then if you're too drunk to understand that you should just leave you're too drunk to be in a public setting. The cops do not and should not care about some stupid plan to drive all over the city drinking tiny amounts of beer.
If you refuse to ignore common sense in favor of embarrassing yourself, probably not a good idea to argue with staff and then start bothering other people. Contrary to the story he's spinning, I'm sure other patrons weren't excited to have this drunk dumbass stumbling up to them at 2am asking to have some of their shitty Hofbrauhaus beer.
I do a lot for our local beer community…
Literally never heard of him/his blog. Would be just fine if I never heard anything ever again, too.
[–]SevenSulkySerbs 18 ポイント19 ポイント20 ポイント 1日前* (10子コメント)
You hit the nail on the head with several of my criticisms.
The fact that he couldn't simply walk away is a big red flag in of itself. I'm lucky enough that I receive some forms of special treatment on occasion from a few places, but when I'm told no or that they want to close up at normal hours, I accept it. Nothing good can come from pushing the issue. Just because the guy has a blog and wants to share his massive brewery tour experience doesn't mean he should expect to be granted certain privileges or leeway.
To me, it makes no sense to hit each and every place in a single day. There's no time to really explore the places, meet people, and enjoy the experience and the different beers. If someone is really determined to hit each place in a short amount of time, then I recommend spreading it out over the weekend.
[+]TheGnarlyGnome スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント 1日前 (9子コメント)
Here's what I'll say about that. You're 100% right in that no one should expect special privileges- and I don't. I was disappointed and frustrated that we missed our last stop, but the part I'm upset about is the reason I was arrested. To say I was a danger to myself or others or unreasonably annoying is just not true. I was being very civil, and at the point the police came over, I was in a conversation with a couple about what we had done that day... I was not being unruly, loud, annoying or anything to justify it. Part of the reason that I had multiple people with me that weren't drinking is to make sure we took every precaution that things didn't get out of hand. I argued with an officer, so he got mad and arrested me.
I will pay my fine and move on... but the police acted in the wrong, and I'm sad that it happened at one of our local breweries... this isn't how it should work.
As for the tour itself... no- I don't recommend people do it, it's not actually a fun day - it's a lot of work. I notified (most) places ahead of time that I'd be there and what I'd be doing - I had four drivers, we had a grueling driving schedule... lots of snacks and water in the car. This was a "is it possible" idea to bring a little more recognition to a beer scene that while getting bigger every day is still small and tight knit.
[–]sir_richard_head 17 ポイント18 ポイント19 ポイント 1日前 (6子コメント)
You were begging for people to give you beer while standing on the sidewalk and the officers told you to leave, then you didn't. What the fuck did you expect to happen?
By the story you gave, the police did exactly what they should have done. It's exactly what I would expect them to do for some old derelict drunk or some underage college kid in the same state.
I'm sure the story they would give wouldn't paint you as the champion of the people your writing tries to paint you as.
[+]TheGnarlyGnome スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 1日前 (5子コメント)
That's not really how it all happened... and I'd hope even they wouldn't put it like that. I hope that no one has to have this situation happen to them... derelict or college kid - right is right, wrong is wrong. Cheers, Mr Head.
[–]sir_richard_head 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 1日前 (4子コメント)
Then perhaps you should clarify "how it all happened" because your blog says that's how it happened.
[–]TheGnarlyGnome -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
We were not able to get a drink because it was after last call. We started talking to a couple people, who were going to share their beer with us. HBH asked us not too. We agreed not to. We continued talking to couple. Police that were already at HBH came up and started questioning what we were doing, upon explanation we were asked to leave the sidewalk. Upon questioning the legality of the officers order I was arrested.
That's the overly simplified rundown.
[–]sir_richard_head 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
I'm failing to see how my original assessment wasn't how it happened.
[–]TheGnarlyGnome 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
Alright then. I fail to see how I can show you. Cheers!
[–]sir_richard_head 19 ポイント20 ポイント21 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
You were begging for people to give you beer while standing on the sidewalk and the officers told you to leave, then you didn't.
Were you asking people for beer? (Yes)
Did the officers tell you to leave? (Yes)
Did you not leave and instead decide that this was a fine time to debate the matter? (Yes)
What am I missing that somehow absolves you here?
[–]SevenSulkySerbs 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 1日前* (1子コメント)
Oh don't worry, I am by no means making claims as to your level of intoxication or whether you could be considered an "annoyance". I'm just saying it was not a smart move arguing with the officer. Things very rarely end up how people think it should. Since im not aware of the details concerning the encounter with HB employee, I assume their rejection should've been the first sign that things could go wrong if ignored.
I'll also agree that the officer wasn't entirely correct with his decisions, although by arguing with the officer and ignoring the HB employee, you kind of put yourself in that position. It sucks, but sometimes things like the officer's report happens because of a few bad decisions, no matter how innocent the intention.
Edit: I'm going to assume that HB was not one of the places you could alert about your arrival. Unfortunately I think that's where things really went wrong. With the nature of that sort of trip, seems like each and every place needs to be informed, and then that schedule MUST be followed in order to avoid issues like what you experienced.
[–]TheGnarlyGnome -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
I agree almost 100% - but I didn't ignore the HB employee at all. I agree not walking away as soon as the cops came over was a mistake... I believe with all my heart at the time that since I wasn't doing anything wrong I'd be ok. I was wrong. Certainly won't happen again!
[–]LawBot2016 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
The parent mentioned Public Place. For anyone unfamiliar with this term, here is the definition:(In beta, be kind)
A place to which the general public has a right to resort; not necessarily a place devoted solely to the uses of the public, but a place which is in point of fact public rather than private, a place visited by many persons and usually accessible to the public. See Slate v. Welch, 88 Ind. 310; Gom-precht v. State, 36 Tex. Cr. R. 434, 37 S. W. 734; Russell v. Dyer, 40 N. H. 187; Roach v. Eugene, 23 Or. 376, 31 Pac. 825; Taylor v. State, 22 Ala. 15. [View More]
See also: Gomprecht V. State | Intoxication | Tail | Spinning | Under The Influence Of Alcohol | Front Door
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[–]MidsizeGorilla 25 ポイント26 ポイント27 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Hard to say without actually seeing a video of the arrest or being there personally. I get that this dude is upset that his plans were ruined, but it doesn't sound like Hofbrauhaus did anything wrong. They have a policy and they stuck to it. I am pretty cynical when it comes to the police, but I would still tend to side with the police here rather than the guy who admitted to being on the end of a 16 hour drinking marathon. Even if he wasn't shitfaced at that point, he would definitely have been exhausted and obviously upset - it wouldn't surprise me at all if he gave the police reason enough to throw him in the drunk tank overnight. Not saying that's what happened, just that it wouldn't surprise me to learn that.
[–]AM_Industiries 31 ポイント32 ポイント33 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
I lived in NKY for two years, and frequented the levee and HBH. In my experience, the police there are pretty lenient on a lot of stuff.
I think was a classic case of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".
[–]tltsd 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
I mean I read the article but when you give it a title like that...
[–]db0513East Walnut Hills 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 1日前 (14子コメント)
sorry you had to tell my Mom that I got arrested.
-dies-
[–]TheGnarlyGnome -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 1日前 (13子コメント)
Hahaha, yes, my poor mother volunteered to be the last driver of the day, she was sitting in the car waiting to take me home.
[–]db0513East Walnut Hills 19 ポイント20 ポイント21 ポイント 1日前* (12子コメント)
I don't even know where to start with this. Hopefully you learned a valuable lesson here but it doesn't seem like it. You picked the wrong fight and tried to impose your will on the wrong people. And you lost. Own the L, man.
[–]TheGnarlyGnome -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 1日前 (11子コメント)
I think the lesson I learned is one that many other people charged with misdemeanors are faced with. If I was guilty, I'd own up to it. I was not the one imposing my will on anyone. I questioned the wrong authority and yes, lost... that doesn't make it right.
[–]NumNumLobsterNewport[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
what did the people who you asked for their beer then were just chatting with say when you got arrested? from their side if im just chilling and some guy asks me for my beer then when hes told to cut that out he just keeps chatting with me i dont think id mind the cops asking for him to move along. if we were bonding i think id quickly tell the cops it was fine you werent bugging me. of they were silent you may want to consider that you were maybe annoying them and they were being nice. sounds like bar staff asked you to leave the guests alone, then the cops did the same. ive prob been in a few situations where npd could have arrested me because i was a jackass. my experience is they generally want everyone to have a good time and make it home safe.
if you are going to argue with them though, just got done trying to much drinks, and wont leave customers alone i can understand their lack of patience. it sounds like you had 3 opportunities to walk away and instead chose to be a pain at closing time when the cops would be very busy making sure everyone was leaving safely. put yourself in their shoes. they are pretty much nicely telling you they wont baby sit you to keep you from mooching drinks and bugging people, and you need to go. you refused that so they handled that the other way, which honestly they probably would haved liked to avoid too.
id suggest apologizing to the arresting officer and seeing if you can get it dismissed. npd really is a pretty lax department. more traffic related but ive just shown up at tbe police station before and asked to speak to officers that cited me for things and gotten charges reduced or dismissed.
your "fuck npd i did nothing wrong" attitude is hurting you though. it is probably why you were charged in the first place
[–]TheGnarlyGnome 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
We walked away from the couple to talk to the cops so they didn't know I was being arrested.
It's not the Charge or the money that is the issue for me, it's that the truth was stretched to prove a point... it's wrong and people need to know that these things can happen to you, even if you are in the right.
After we were asked by HBH not to share a drink with anyone, we apologized to them, helped them gather up a couple steins, and went over to chat with the couple to tell them about the whole "mission of the day" - and to apologize for almost getting them in trouble. It was then that the police came up... and yes, that was the point we should have left.
[–]db0513East Walnut Hills 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1日前 (8子コメント)
You're on paper for public intox. That's the lesson that has the very real potential for fucking your life up moving forward. You answer "yes" to "Have you ever been convicted of a crime? Please explain" on every job application you complete moving forward. You've officially established a permanent record for yourself of being a drunk asshole. It doesn't matter what your feelings are.
[–]TheGnarlyGnome 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 1日前 (7子コメント)
I suppose I'll have to be good for a while and get it expunged. Then I can go back to being a drunk asshole in private.
[–]db0513East Walnut Hills 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1日前* (5子コメント)
I guess your mom's going to front you on that?
I'm not trying to be a dick, man. Your situation is what it is and you put yourself in it.
[–]TheGnarlyGnome 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1日前* (4子コメント)
Well, I'd certainly hope she does!
Just because things are what they are doesn't mean I shouldn't explain what actually happened to me - this could have been prevented by a few different people (myself included) and people should hear about it.... it shouldn't happen.
[–]sir_richard_head 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
this could have been prevented by a few different people (myself included)
Here's the thing you aren't getting through your thick skull...
This could have been prevented by one person and only one person. Any guesses who?
[–]TheGnarlyGnome -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
I thought we established that we weren't going to see things the same. I can name quite a few people that could have prevented this... again... me being one of them.
Big hugs, and cheers!
[–]matlockgaClifton 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Looking at the list, he went to two chains (Rock Bottom / Hofbrauhaus)...
And then he decided to go to both Moerlein locations, both Rivertown locations, and both 50 West locations.
I can almost understand the Moerlein and Rivertown ones, but why 50 West? They're literally across the street from each other, and have no distinction from each other. Dude took a list, padded it way out for no reason, and got arrested for being a jerk who tried forcing his way into a bar after last call.
[–]WengersWanger 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
TL:DR - Local beer enthusiast plans to visit lots of breweries and drink a lot of beer throughout the day for some reason. Does it, but is too late to the last one. Despite having had beer all day, has crystal clear memory of all conversations and actions after being denied entry to final establishment. Is told by police to go away. Doesn't go away. Goes to jail. Writes sob story.
[–]DrSilverwormOakley 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 23時間前 (0子コメント)
They don't even offer 4oz tasters at hofbrau last time I checked. Half liter is low as they go
[–]SevenSulkySerbs 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
I understand the whole point of sharing the craft brew experience, but I still see so much flawed logic throughout that story. I really don't understand how he can put blame on anyone other than himself for how things turned out.
[–]AuchdasspielCovington 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
I'll cut the gnome some slack. Was probably pretty happy towards the end of the evening for finishing up his marathon, accepted that HBH wasn't serving, and called it a day. Then BAM police.
He came close to crossing the line by soliciting HBH patrons for alcohol but did not. He fit the stereotype of the "drunk people roll up at a bar and demand beers after closing" but did not commit the crime. That's what matters. I'm sure Newport Police having their share of people trying to drunkenly sweet talk their way out of trouble and they just throw them in the slammer. Sounds like he got caught up in the cops' weekend routine.
[–]JHood_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
This guy is a twat, and hardly respected in the Cincinnati beer scene. I've been explicitly warned about him by several people to protect my research content, because he might "borrow" it.
[–]TheGnarlyGnome 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Hahahahahaha
Research content? What?
[–]rutroraggy 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
Meth? Did he take meth? I'm confused why he brought up meth...
[–]TheGnarlyGnome 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Just fun jail stories. I'd never even seen meth before that day.... but in 8 hours I learned a bit about it.
[+]JediJediBinksClifton Heights スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント 1日前 (6子コメント)
Without actually being there there is no way to know who was out of line.
I know I would be pissed if I went to 36 out of 37 Cincinnati Breweries only to be turned away at the last one because they are "closing soon". If Hofbrauhaus locks the doors at 130 am they should be up front about it and adjust their hours accordingly. This guy just spent close to $200 on beer to try and complete the Ultimate Cincy Brewtour only to be bamboozled by Newport Hofbrauhaus.
[–]NumNumLobsterNewport[S] 18 ポイント19 ポイント20 ポイント 1日前 (5子コメント)
Well he has video of the arrest that for some reason he neglected to post. I imagine that speaks volumes. Also no one serves up to closing time.... Are you really blaming HB because they have a last call? If you plan a all day drinking event maybe you should ask the last place when their last call is instead of assuming for some reason they serve right up to the second they close.
[–]TheGnarlyGnome -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
I don't have video of the arrest. We cut the video shortly before and we're talking to a couple about the day. I assure you we knew everyone's hours. We missed last call by 11mins... that's not what Hofbrauhaus did wrong.
[–]JediJediBinksClifton Heights -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
They locked the doors at a minimum of 20 minutes before closing. Do they close at 140am or 2am?
Last call is like "hey you better get up here if you want anything else to drink" not "You have 90 seconds to order a drink". Plus it's always up to the bartender's discretion.
I'm not defending the guy but if the place says they're open until 2am the general expectation is that you can at least get through the door at 140am.
[–]frankenduke 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
According to the article last call was at 1:30. Then proceeded to cajole a drink anyway.
"We had missed last call by 11 minutes"
[–]Brutusismyhomeboy 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
That is not at all uncommon, and even reasonable. Give people time to finish what they had so that the staff can clean up and maybe, crazy idea, get out of work in a reasonable amount of time.
Sure, HBH could have been chill and given this dude a sample but they also seem to have cops standing RIGHT THERE which would pretty much mean even if you wanted to be chill, you don't have a lot of leeway. I used to work in a popular entertainment district and that shit is definitely frowned upon.
The real crime is that you got arrested over beer from HBH. Seriously? A beer blogger at that. Dude, take the L and admit you fucked up.
[–]sir_richard_head 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
It's not uncommon for a bar, especially a large bar, to stop admitting people an hour before the posted closing time and have last call a full half hour before closing time. It's been a while since I've made the mistake of going to Hofbrauhaus late night, but as I recall it's not uncommon to have 40 or 50 people around the bar trying to get drinks without the rush of last call plus a large number of people just trying to close out their tab and go home doesn't seem that strange to me. They also used to close down the Biergarten much earlier in the night so the blogger going in that entrance and expecting service back there doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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